Barbosa and Leal Devices - Info and Replication Details

[fer123]

Toroide

Hello Wantomake, I will try to replicate It with cold rolled steel, I will try to follow Mr Clarence instruction but most of the time he goes one step further, thanks we keep in contact. Best wish.

[wantomake]

Try this

Hello Mr Clarence and All.

The construction of the toroid look complicate but what I can see after long time decoding that picture is on top of the primary is two bucking coils, when you see the toroid picture from the center left two wire connected together and look one wire only for left and only one wire for right, the end two wires one is connected to blue?? going to load ,and other?? big question. They do the winding to be confuse whit bifilar coils but I don't thing so. Best wish.

Fer123,
Give this cold rolled iron toroid a try. Follow Clarence instructions to wind it. Let us know what you get. Use 20 gauge magnet wire.

wantomake

[wantomake]

Looks good

Wantomake,

Just a few quick words. I finally have my solid iron core ready and am ready to apply the 660 coil turns.
Took a long time and lots of effort - shortly should be able to test the iron for magnet ability.
Then will go from there.

Clarence

Hey Clarence,
Looks good. Been trying some simple test on mine. Wrapped a short 10 foot piece of mag wire around one side and placed a compass next to the core. Used a 9 volt battery to touch to the two wire ends momentarily. The compass needle jump back and forth for a minute or so after the voltage was applied for just a second. Then the compass would settle down.

Hope this is PMH in this iron core I'm seeing. Or whatever it's interesting. Can't wait for mag wire to come in and wrap this core to extract that earth energy.

Will wait to see your results,
wantomake

[wantomake]

The "other"

Wantomake,

A desire to finish replication is a real good idea. Most don't realize that this invention is the ONLY ONE - BAR NONE - that can give high
value amounts of electric energy with very simple components and all at 60 Hertz (or 50)
standard residential power supply.
That is why I have pursued this Item all this time and will keep after it till it's done.

Yes, the"other" project is amazing in itself. I pursue it with the knowledge
that it can be used in SUPPORT OF the B&L unit. No one knows what "other" means and it will remain that way also!

Still working to finish the first metal piece that came in. The other metal
piece you found is a sheer delight and will make added PMH builds real
simple. Lovin it!

Thanks again for that!

Later

Clarence

Hey Clarence,
I'm driven to finish this project from the results of the original setup. Which wasn't enough to light my shop but did power a 4 watt bulb overnight without draining my solar bank. Not to mention powered the smart charger at same time.

Watching the voltage go up on the "other" project is amusing to me. Can't wait to go full size.

Yea the "the other" metal seller ask if I needed to buy any cut pieces after I'd already bought the whole thing !!! Darn I need to wait on their responses.

Lunch is done, back to the fun.
wantomake

[clarence]

Getting it done

Clarence,


With all the time and resources (we) I spent on this replication, a want to satisfy curiosity is my reason to finish this.

Still testing smaller sizes of the "other" project. Very amazed to see results thus far.

wantomake

Wantomake,

A desire to finish replication is a real good idea. Most don't realize that this invention is the ONLY ONE - BAR NONE - that can give high
value amounts of electric energy with very simple components and all at 60 Hertz (or 50)
standard residential power supply.
That is why I have pursued this Item all this time and will keep after it till it's done.

Yes, the"other" project is amazing in itself. I pursue it with the knowledge
that it can be used in SUPPORT OF the B&L unit. No one knows what "other" means and it will remain that way also!

Still working to finish the first metal piece that came in. The other metal
piece you found is a sheer delight and will make added PMH builds real
simple. Lovin it!

Thanks again for that!

Later

Clarence

[wantomake]

Hard to find

Clarence,
Very hard to get any milling/fabricating done here I guess being it's not a big enough profit for them. Still waiting for call from local company. Too late now though.

With all the time and resources (we) I spent on this replication, a want to satisfy curiosity is my reason to finish this.

Still testing smaller sizes of the "other" project. Very amazed to see results thus far. But that's for another thread if you decide to or not.

Maybe we should've ask these guys if anyone has a metal lathe and give us a qoute.

wantomake

[clarence]

Clarence,
Good. I've had many things get in the way these past two weeks. Like this crazy weather, I hope to get it clears today.

Your iron core came in. That's my goal today if possible. Need to head to the fabricator there in town. At lest get a quote. Also still hoping to get a start on the "other" project we discussed.

Well the sun is peeking through and need to warm up my coffee. Thanks as always for the update. Need more than coffee sometimes to kick my ole "free energy" thoughts into gear.

wantomake

Wantomake,

Back from shop - metal hole saw won't do - no way!
laying out marks for chain drilling - now ten forevers of time consumption
starts.
If you can get yours made with center removed - DO IT !

Later

Clarence

[clarence]

Wantomake,

Gotcha! Heading to the shop myself in a few mins to start slow drilling the center out. Maybe it won't take all day.
The new round piece weighed 10 lbs !
Will weigh the new drilled piece again before adding winds and also after winds.

Later,

Clarence

Wantomake,

Forgot to mention the E material!
Worked with it a little and it will pullout
and draw through a lot easier than I thought.
However will be days before I get to any of that.
Just to let know!

Clarence

[clarence]

Clarence,
Good. I've had many things get in the way these past two weeks. Like this crazy weather, I hope to get it clears today.

Your iron core came in. That's my goal today if possible. Need to head to the fabricator there in town. At lest get a quote. Also still hoping to get a start on the "other" project we discussed.

Well the sun is peeking through and need to warm up my coffee. Thanks as always for the update. Need more than coffee sometimes to kick my ole "free energy" thoughts into gear.

wantomake

Wantomake,

Gotcha! Heading to the shop myself in a few mins to start slow drilling the center out. Maybe it won't take all day.
The new round piece weighed 10 lbs !
Will weigh the new drilled piece again before adding winds and also after winds.

Later,

Clarence

[wantomake]

Wantomake,

The Iron piece came in this PM.
Tomorrow may have some time to work towards
removing the center area metal.
When that is removed then I will dress and smooth it all
and make it ready for the winds.
Don't know how long that will take - probably 1 1/2 to 2 weeks
as it is tedious and time consuming.
When get close to time to measure mh on the full winds then
will talk again.

Till then,

Clarence

Clarence,
Good. I've had many things get in the way these past two weeks. Like this crazy weather, I hope to get it clears today.

Your iron core came in. That's my goal today if possible. Need to head to the fabricator there in town. At lest get a quote. Also still hoping to get a start on the "other" project we discussed.

Well the sun is peeking through and need to warm up my coffee. Thanks as always for the update. Need more than coffee sometimes to kick my ole "free energy" thoughts into gear.

wantomake

[clarence]

Wantomake,

Sounds good to me!.
We'll be hitting it from both ends.
My core metal won't be leaving to me
till the 19th + few days for arrival.

Wantomake,

The Iron piece came in this PM.
Tomorrow may have some time to work towards
removing the center area metal.
When that is removed then I will dress and smooth it all
and make it ready for the winds.
Don't know how long that will take - probably 1 1/2 to 2 weeks
as it is tedious and time consuming.
When get close to time to measure mh on the full winds then
will talk again.

Till then,

Clarence

[clarence]

Core

Hello Clarence, wow wow wow, this is totally different, we are playing with magnetism and solid core is very different( found in nature, not lamination core). After reading your post is easy for me to say the something was not right with the core, I was looking from old post and the excuse barbosa gave to ariovaldo is the core inductance should be .06H-.08H 660 t 20 AWG, I tried to achieved it with the same stator core and never achieved because the holes in the core, I was thinking maybe is not the core, after review a old video from nenad savic he say it works but the core look different, and his core look like 24 groups of winding X maybe 27.5 t you will have the 660 t, I dont know if have something with Tesla 369 multiplication? anyway only test will tell, i am convince the system works and after years eventually we will find it.

Hello fer123

We will find it - yes.
Just takes the time as all things do.Just stay tuned till
close to end of April and see what happens.

Respectfully,

Clasrence

[clarence]

Nice

Clarence,
Ok. Yes it does. So I've been thinking of my options to find something that will work. But solid iron nothing different. I want to replicate as close to your specs as possible. Ordering some magnetic wire also.

My uncle and sons has a local scrap business, so may look there. Online has many fabricating shops. There are two good ones locally.

Until my parts arrive or fabricated, I'll be building a smaller version of what we discussed by E.

Will update here and by E as it happens.
wantomake

Wantomake,

Sounds good to me!.
We'll be hitting it from both ends.
My core metal won't be leaving to me
till the 19th + few days for arrival.
So thumb rotation till then.

Thanks - I'll stay tuned.

Clarence

[wantomake]

Options

Clarence,
Ok. Yes it does. So I've been thinking of my options to find something that will work. But solid iron nothing different. I want to replicate as close to your specs as possible. Ordering some magnetic wire also.

My uncle and sons has a local scrap business, so may look there. Online has many fabricating shops. There are two good ones locally.

Until my parts arrive or fabricated, I'll be building a smaller version of what we discussed by E.

Will update here and by E as it happens.
wantomake

[clarence]

Materials

Clarence,
Is it the solid iron core ? Don't mean to be such a dummy. I'll look around more for one. I'm working and trying to focus on this new find of yours at same time. Lol.

Thanks for your patience,
wantomake

YES Wantomake - solid metal ---no lamination.
I'm speaking about the solid metal round piece of metal
I am ordering from the metal distributor!
5.5" round 1.5 " thick cold finished metal.
as you see you can get a 5.5" round cold rolled piece
as long as 18 inches.
WAY TO LONG!

Only need the 1.5" thick ROUND slice of that rod!
They have many other shapes but this is the one to deal with.

Hope this clarifies !

Thanks Back,

Clarence