Flynn Parallel Path Device

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I was doing some research on magnetic flux and discovered for myself the Flynn Parallel Path concept.



YouTube Video: Flynn Parallel Path Device



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Improved Version

I was doing some research on magnetic flux and discovered for myself the Flynn Parallel Path concept.



YouTube Video: Flynn Parallel Path Device



Please share your comments on this device.

Regards,

VIDBID

..found another video..

improved flynn model 2

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VIDBID

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US Patent #6,246,561

https://www.google.com/patents/US6246561

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[rosehillworks]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MZzosuvfvE4

[mbrownn]

Hi, I dont doubt that there is lots of potential in the parallel path concept, in fact I have applied it to a universal motor. (ill post a few details about it if you wish) What I wish to point out is that im not sure that 4 units of force are produced when the steering coil is energised.

The reason I say this is because when you place permanent magnets in series there is no gain in pulling force. When two permanent magnets are made to oppose each other, they send out a beam of flux at 90 degrees to the magnets that does have a greater magnetic pull. I consider this the effect of a parallel path. So what I am saying is that the steering coil does not add to the pull unless it is greater in magnitude to the magnet it is in series with.

What does this mean?

With the coil unenergised, the flux path of each magnet follows a separate path with 1 unit of pull in each path, a total of 2 units. With the coil energised, there may be no gain between the permanent magnet and the coil that is in series so that this remains a pull of 1 unit. The result is 2 units of pull through the second path and not 3 or 4 resulting in no real gain in pull.

If we now place our steering coil on the left path and power it in parallel with the two permanent magnets, the result may be 3 units of pull on the right path. A gain of 1 above the method shown?

When we de-energise the steering coil and the flux from the left hand permanent magnet returns to the left path, will it generate a current in the steering coil?

If we pulsed the steering coil with short pulses could we reach a situation where we are able to recover all the energy put into each pulse?

Would the returning flux add to any inductive kickback in the steering coil or cancel it out?

Hope you can understand my explanation, what’s your thoughts?

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Electrically Switchable Magnet System - US Patent #6229422

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MZzosuvfvE4

Uploaded on Feb 15, 2012

After spending some time on Femm4.2 modelling the Flynn device and playing around with various permutations I began looking for ways that could replicate the switching effect but be easier and cheaper to build. Then I came across US Patent 6229422. The result you see in the video. The little device is made from two magnets a neodymium magnet and an alnico magnet both 2cm by 0.5cm rods with similar magnetic strength. The alnico - however - has a much lower coercivity - this mean it will magnetize and demagnetize relatively easily while the N42 will not. So, subjecting the two magnets tot he same field will swap the magnetic poles of the alnico but leave the poles of the N42 unaffected. To do this is this simple set up takes a microsecond pulse at 12v - the pulse passes 10amps through the coil - this sounds like a lot but the same effect could be achieved by discharging a 20 microFarad 12v capacitor through the coil - so - really it isn't much - about 13 millijoules.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZzosuvfvE4

Bravo! rosehillworks




Electrically Switchable Magnet System - US Patent #6229422

..making a magnet seem to on or off with a small and very brief input voltage..

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VIDBID

[vidbid]

Hi, I dont doubt that there is lots of potential in the parallel path concept, in fact I have applied it to a universal motor. (ill post a few details about it if you wish) What I wish to point out is that im not sure that 4 units of force are produced when the steering coil is energised.

The reason I say this is because when you place permanent magnets in series there is no gain in pulling force. When two permanent magnets are made to oppose each other, they send out a beam of flux at 90 degrees to the magnets that does have a greater magnetic pull. I consider this the effect of a parallel path. So what I am saying is that the steering coil does not add to the pull unless it is greater in magnitude to the magnet it is in series with.

What does this mean?

With the coil unenergised, the flux path of each magnet follows a separate path with 1 unit of pull in each path, a total of 2 units. With the coil energised, there may be no gain between the permanent magnet and the coil that is in series so that this remains a pull of 1 unit. The result is 2 units of pull through the second path and not 3 or 4 resulting in no real gain in pull.

If we now place our steering coil on the left path and power it in parallel with the two permanent magnets, the result may be 3 units of pull on the right path. A gain of 1 above the method shown?

When we de-energise the steering coil and the flux from the left hand permanent magnet returns to the left path, will it generate a current in the steering coil?

If we pulsed the steering coil with short pulses could we reach a situation where we are able to recover all the energy put into each pulse?

Would the returning flux add to any inductive kickback in the steering coil or cancel it out?

Hope you can understand my explanation, what’s your thoughts?

Interesting. Thanks for posting your ideas.

Regards,

VIDBID

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PS: Reference YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZzosuvfvE4

[mbrownn]

I like that switchable magnet setup

We all look to making the magnets do work as in generating the current in a secondary coil, but what if we made them do mechanical work at the same time?

This means that the magnet must move something and so necessitates an air gap, and of course we may see a loss with that, but would the mechanical work be additional to the electrical work done?

If we placed an iron rotor in the air gap so that it is not perfectly aligned and briefly switched on the magnet, the flux would pass through the rotor and apply a torque to it causing it to turn towards perfect alignment. Momentum would then allow the rotor to continue to spin until it reaches the same position again where the cycle could be repeated ie an attraction motor.

As the motor is is attraction the flux remains within the iron so the generation in the secondary should remain fairly good despite small air gaps. Now the question is will the sum of the mechanical power and the generation caused by the switching on and off of the flux be greater than just the generation alone?

yes, It is true we get a loss across the air gap causing a small reduction in efficiency of generation but is the mechanical power greater than this loss?

Note that the Flynn motor does have this misaligned attraction motor setup but does not show any generation/recovery coils. Maybe the motor patent is only showing part of the picture. Ill be honest, I would never put the whole thing in just one patent if I were the inventor as it would be too easy to copy.

[mbrownn]

I just modified the Flynn drawing to how I see it. I apologise for the poor drawing.

Coil A A is the switching coil

Coil B B is the recovery/generator coil

The orange line is the flux path in the off state

The green line is the flux path in the energised state

Coil B B goes from no flux to 2 units of flux and back again thus generating with the flux of both magnets.

Coil A A may or may not have some inductive kickback

The rotor turns with the torque provided by both magnets

Now the question is, will the generated output in coil B B and mechanical power be more than the electrical input in coil A A?

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Motionless Flux Lock (MFL)

My inspiration for this design is from a number of sources.

1. https://www.google.com/patents/US6246561
2. https://www.google.com/patents/US6229422
3. http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt3.html
4. http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...th-device.html

I release my drawing of the MFL into the public domain.

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VIDBID

I created a thread to deal with this idea.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19913-motionless-flux-lock-mfl.html

I also recommend this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZzosuvfvE4

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VIDBID

[mbrownn]

OK understood

As a locking mechanism I think it is excelent, I assumed you were looking at energy production. I apologise for my tunnel vision

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Lock

OK understood

As a locking mechanism I think it is excelent, I assumed you were looking at energy production. I apologise for my tunnel vision

The name: MFL.

Lock.

I was sort of paying homage to the idea of turning ON or turning OFF the flux with a short pulse.

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VIDBID

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Energy Recovery

I just modified the Flynn drawing to how I see it. I apologise for the poor drawing.

Coil A A is the switching coil

Coil B B is the recovery/generator coil

The orange line is the flux path in the off state

The green line is the flux path in the energised state

Coil B B goes from no flux to 2 units of flux and back again thus generating with the flux of both magnets.

Coil A A may or may not have some inductive kickback

The rotor turns with the torque provided by both magnets

Now the question is, will the generated output in coil B B and mechanical power be more than the electrical input in coil A A?

Regards,

VIDBID

[Turion]

Previous discussion

Most of this has been explored before. The one thing that it does remind me of is Beardon's statements about the conditioning of virgin magnets. You can see the original Beardon article here:\The Tom Bearden Website or run your own google search on Radus boots.

Anyone who is looking into the parallel path research should take the time to review this as well as some of the documentation they include on the web site. It will help.

Dave