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  • #31
    erfinder it'll take me a long time to try and work out a way I can possibly explain this decently but It wasn't meant as a slight .. as the electricity you are familiar with is composed of volts and amps so what we are considering here is composed of harmonics and overtones but not as you think of them.
    as they occur naturally in nature. in nature an overtone is never ever a harmonic . music as we know it now is not to a natural scale (Newton altered the scale) . read up on crystal oscillators and you'll see overtone and harmonics go on ad-infinitum
    like odd and even numbers, I was correcting you now erfinder because when or if I find a way to describe it ... from the other dimension harmonics are what you perceive as EMF and overtones are what you perceive as Back EMF
    and if you wish to turn lenz law back on itself its the first thing to try and unravel in your mind. harmonics are not overtones .. at least when counting in science and maths or in the real world. Its why I said Prof what ever his name is who wrote that illiterate bloody thing ..(ampage what the hells that?) hasn't got a clue. why on earth would you want to look just as stupid?
    This ..

    Persons who count differently are wrong.
    In counting − harmonics are not overtones.


    from this web page

    Overtones harmonics overtone partial partials calculation - frequency fundamental and harmonics odd even - fundamental frequencies flute clarinet organ - converter distortions k even-numbered harmonics odd - sengpielaudio Sengpiel Berlin

    so for your understanding try to use proper terms or else you wont form the right picture use English correctly not the American corruptions and slap dash rubbish.

    These words originated because they were used. there is wireless and radio
    because there were two systems

    there is overtones and harmonics because there are two systems

    there is volts , PD, EMF, back EMF well why do you think .... best wishes
    Last edited by Duncan; 01-09-2014, 08:27 AM.
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    • #32
      This video again popped up on another forum. I wish I could replicate it with proper measuring of current circulating in both resonant circuits, but you see one of the method of not killing the dipole in primary

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      • #33
        Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
        This video again popped up on another forum. I wish I could replicate it with proper measuring of current circulating in both resonant circuits, but you see one of the method of not killing the dipole in primary
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQdcwDCBoNY
        Just so Boguslaw .. IMHO you are thinking in exactly the right area but we are not particularly interested in Parellel resonance .. magnetic flux is proportional to number of turns a and current NI .. power or voltage does not come into the equasion. you require lots of power out for little or nothing in
        series resonance then .. minimum impedance = maximum current ...
        The same applies to the LA battery . The transformation of wave form is clearly demostrated though ... The big bang . thread depends on that very transformation . in a magnetic core .. or air coil (perhaps) here we consider resonating a lead acid battery directly with the electrostatic component. nice Video though .. It showes the effect
        Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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        • #34
          dipole = di-pole = two poles = male and female = natural universe law

          and electrical dipole continously has voltage= potential difference maintained and voltage is EMF= force and if you don't kill voltage you can do any work you need but we only know the case of using those small magnets called electrons to do work and kill the dipole The tip is in LC circuit of course....

          Tesla said many times that he produced continous oscillation in his secondaries but everybody questioned he is doing it under load ! I think Tesla would answer :
          " I woudn't do that just for fun of making big sparks, that would be an absurd !"

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          • #35
            Originally posted by erfinder
            Uh....what? Dipole.....what is it really? The term in and of itself has no weight with me, not that that should matter to you. The term is thrown around like the abbreviation "LOL"....everyone "should" know whats implied.

            The word "Dipole" is a place holder for something else. "Don't kill the dipole" can be seen as an alternative energy community jingle. Dipole equates to Back EMF (this is supported by their own documents, specifically patents, and statements given in interviews.) Parallel and series resonance allows us to view our circuits from the perspective of the self-induction, the seat of Back EMF. Frequency and capacity are adjusted with respect to circuit self-induction, this was presented to us by none other than Tesla. The fascinating thing is this, if you want to preserve the "dipole" you must do it from the perspective of the dipole, self preservation.

            The demonstration provided by armagdn03 in that video is an excellent example of what you get when you use parallel resonance. This video clearly leads one to assume that output exceeds input at resonance, does it?

            Those who would have us to believe that there is much more energy surrounding power EMF circuits (dipole pushers) believe wholeheartedly that there's more there, so much so that they were granted a patent for a method which could in theory yield some 10^13 times as much.

            It's all about Back EMF. Not to be confused with inductive collapse!


            Regards

            I'm not confused .. that seems to be your bailiwick and area of excellence .. overtones .. harmonics .. dipoles

            Dipole - Amateur-radio-wiki
            Last edited by Duncan; 01-09-2014, 01:29 PM.
            Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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            • #36
              Just a joke

              Scientists at NASA built a gun specifically to launch standard 4-pound dead chickens at the windshields of airliners, military jets, and the space shuttle, all traveling at maximum velocity. The idea is to simulate the frequent incidents of collisions with airborne fowl to test the strength of the windshields.

              British engineers heard about the gun and were eager to test it on the windshields of their new high speed trains. Arrangements were made, and a gun was sent to the British engineers.

              When the gun was fired, the engineers stood shocked as the chicken hurled out of the barrel, crashed into the shatterproof shield, smashed it to smithereens, blasted through the control console, snapped the engineer's backrest in two, and embedded itself in the back wall of the cabin, like an arrow shot from a bow.

              The horrified Brits sent NASA the disastrous results of the experiment, along with the designs of the windshield and begged the U.S scientists for suggestions.

              NASA responded with a one-line memo--"Defrost the chicken."

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              • #37
                Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
                dipole = di-pole = two poles = male and female = natural universe law

                and electrical dipole continously has voltage= potential difference maintained and voltage is EMF= force and if you don't kill voltage you can do any work you need but we only know the case of using those small magnets called electrons to do work and kill the dipole The tip is in LC circuit of course....

                Tesla said many times that he produced continous oscillation in his secondaries but everybody questioned he is doing it under load ! I think Tesla would answer :
                " I woudn't do that just for fun of making big sparks, that would be an absurd !"
                I know full well there are strange thing happening when an LA battery is being charged !! I got a serious ear bashing from my wife, when after a couple of days charging a battery on one of our Granite work surfaces, upon moving the battery the Granite had taken on the shape of the cell structure within !! And despite a whole day of re polishing there is still the faint outline !!
                Last edited by Duncan; 01-09-2014, 05:40 PM.
                Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                  I know full well there are strange thing happening when an LA battery is being charged !! I got a serious ear bashing from my wife, when after a couple of days charging a battery on one of our Granite work surfaces, upon moving the battery the Granite had taken on the shape of the cell structure within !! And despite a whole day of re polishing there is still the faint outline !!

                  Noise removed.....now you can get on with the show....that horse you saddled up has some really really long legs...you be careful up there.


                  Regards

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                    snip <<
                    I remember not so *recently watching a Russian video where the man had some Copper sheets placed between two Lead acid batteries. Like a sandwich !! Somehow when a lamp was placed it got brighter ??
                    Perhaps it may jog somebodies memory ??
                    <snip <
                    Yeah I remember that video. It was posted by Soundiceuk (sp?). Might be found here: Log in

                    I can't seem to get that site to load up at the minute but according to Is It Down Right Now? Website Down or Not? it is up and running okay.
                    There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine

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                    • #40
                      Well I guess it all pertains e'wiz .. but Its specifically what might be pulling one of the hardest natural substances known, out of shape that I would like you to carry around for a while and let .. cook and stew.
                      Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                      • #41






















                        Oh, I got it....
                        Here you have the blue prints:



                        Good luck!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by erfinder View Post
                          Noise removed.....now you can get on with the show....that horse you saddled up has some really really long legs...you be careful up there.


                          Regards
                          Lucky I saved the pages before the posts were deleted. Would have lost some exceptional information otherwise
                          "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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                          • #43
                            Last edited by Duncan; 01-10-2014, 04:38 AM.
                            Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                              goodbye and a safe journey to you.!
                              thank you and enjoy your stay!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
                                This video again popped up on another forum. I wish I could replicate it with proper measuring of current circulating in both resonant circuits, but you see one of the method of not killing the dipole in primary
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQdcwDCBoNY
                                Last edited by Duncan; 01-10-2014, 07:16 AM.
                                Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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