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  • SilverToGold
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    Hi Allen,

    Great little motor there. I love electrostatics in general and am myself building an electrostatic motor. Electrostatic motors were the 1st electric motor made.

    The thing about electrostatic motors that most people have in their mind is that they are puny little novelty pieces. The motor I'm building, I plan on running at over 1 horsepower or about 900W.... it's no little toy.

    These motors are also VERY efficient, no problem getting them at over 90% if designed properly and that is over a very large range. The average efficiency of a magnetic motor off the shelf is maybe 30% and that's a good one.

    Anyways, here's a more power house of a motor you can look into.

    Moteur Électrostatique3.AVI - YouTube

    Moteur électrostatique0 - YouTube

    Keep up the good work! Volts over Amps.

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  • MonsieurM
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    EWICON bladeless wind turbine generates electricity using charged water droplets


    This is a variation on the "Kelvin water dropper" electrostatic generator.

    ps : Big fan of Victor Schauberger .... check out also magnetized water


    rain water is charged but you also have Morning Dew ( often used by Alchemists ) that is also charged

    if you are interested check out BBX post : http://www.energeticforum.com/243363-post5055.html

    replace bee with flying droplet

    you should also know :

    Why does every raindrop contain a speck of dust? - You Ask Andy

    electrolyte
    Last edited by MonsieurM; 11-18-2013, 10:10 PM.

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  • Allen Burgess
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    Electrolyte.

    @MonsieurM,

    Interesting series of links. Electrolyte increases the transmission of electrical current through the medium, but as pointed out in the video on the Kelvin capacitor, "Good" water is best for generating the charge.

    The video producer explains that water is living and needs to be oxygenated to generate the charge. Rain water, distilled by nature is the most powerful. There's a natural dipole in the atomic structure that releases it's high voltage electrostatic charge with the drip.

    He sends his drip through two hypodermic needles, but if you look closely at his setup, he is suppling his system through a pressure pipe. Good place for a series of miniature in line helical hydrofoil turbine generator blades.

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  • MonsieurM
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    forgot to add :

    Possibilities of Electro-Static Generators from Scientific American, March, 1934

    Nikola Tesla Writes (Additional Comments on Electro-Static Generators) from Scientific American, April, 1934

    Engineers attach no importance whatever to static electricity generated by belt friction or otherwise
    hope it will inspire you





    Originally posted by Allen Burgess View Post
    @MonsieurM,

    Pretty cool at first sight, except this Tesla patent has nothing at all to do with the Kelvin capacitor. Thanks anyway.

    We need to return the water from the basin of the Kelvin drip capacitor to the head. Evaporation is the key. Lidmotor's spinning cup needs a tiny fan blade to evaporate the drip pool and send it up a column to recondense above the head!

    Imagine two tanks, one above the other. The top tank empties through a Gorlov turbine pipe into the drip tank forcefully at timed intervals. This power is stored. The catch basin below the drip tank now has stored power to heat the basin water, and together with the electrostatic fan, voila, the elevated humid air rises slowly up a column to recondense over the top head. A closed system of perpetual motion?

    what you are talking about is a "Reverse " Tesla Fountain Concept

    Nikola Tesla’s Fountain from Scientific American, February 13th, 1915

    Last edited by MonsieurM; 11-18-2013, 06:41 PM.

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  • MonsieurM
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    I wonder if you could boost its power by replacing water with Electrolyte - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    An electrolyte is a compound that ionizes when dissolved in suitable ionizing solvents such as water.




    Tesla Patent 685,012 - Means for Increasing the Intensity of Electrical Oscillations

    Last edited by MonsieurM; 11-18-2013, 06:23 PM.

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  • Allen Burgess
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    Water replenisher.

    @MonsieurM,

    Pretty cool at first sight, except this Tesla patent has nothing at all to do with the Kelvin capacitor. Thanks anyway.

    We need to return the water from the basin of the Kelvin drip capacitor to the head. Evaporation is the key. Lidmotor's spinning cup needs a tiny fan blade to evaporate the drip pool and send it up a column to recondense above the head!

    Imagine two tanks, one above the other. The top tank empties through a Gorlov turbine pipe into the drip tank forcefully at timed intervals. This power is stored. The catch basin below the drip tank now has stored power to heat the basin water, and together with the electrostatic fan, voila, the elevated humid air rises slowly up a column to recondense over the top head. A closed system of perpetual motion?
    Last edited by Allen Burgess; 11-18-2013, 05:49 PM.

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  • MonsieurM
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    Thanks .... quite an interesting set up

    check out Tesla's patent : Tesla Patent 514,168 - Means for Generating Electric Currents


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  • Lidmotor's elctrostatic motor and Kelvin's water drip capacitor.

    Here's Lidmotor's new electrostatic motor:


    Electrostatic Motor --- Running on a capacitor - YouTube


    Below we see a schematic for Kelvin's water drip capacitor. 40,000 volts is normal for this static generator.

    Here's a video demonstrating just that:

    The Extraordinary Nature of Water -Viktor Schauberger 6/6 - YouTube

    I wonder if a Gorlov in pipe turbine coupled with an elevated head could result in perpetual motion, coupled with these two other components?
    Last edited by Allen Burgess; 07-20-2017, 02:16 PM.
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