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  • #16
    Current and motion going in a circle or back and forth

    Originally posted by GSM View Post
    This is where Steven (Thane Heins?) is being conditional.

    If the short were applied before running up to 'speed' the loading would be incredible.
    However the equipment is being run faster straight to a speed before the coil-core phase shifted (delayed in time) reactive force becomes phase coherent with input induced generation and is switched in.

    Apply a real resistive load and there would be no regenerative boost left worth the making of any claims about.

    Apply a physical load and it would need to be driven *in addition to Steven's device*.

    I have long regarded Thane's demonstrations to be of similar ilk, and even more so with his because they are a completely closed system.

    How else could Thane's videos remain on YouTube if they really were a demonstration of over-unity ?

    Cheers ............. Graham.
    Verified information, I generate both torque and AC, going in a circle or back and forth. This is another demonstration showing a piece of steel going to both Poles and then away from both Poles. I can and have demonstrated these reaction. Did you see that when a lamp load is applied forward motion increases and the input decrease below idle? US Paten#7531930 They are not required to issue a patent and they will not issue a patent on something that will not work as claimed, not in this day and age.

    Read the part at the bottom of the 3 minute speech marked "Food for thought". Is that demonstrating Global Warming, when Galileo Thermometer does not work properly? This is cause not by a Magnet, heat or cold... Plea for curriculum regarding Wardforce

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    • #17
      Originally posted by erfinder View Post
      I am a fan of your work, thanks for setting the record straight. For what its worth I have verified that what you show in your videos indeed performs as described. Its now time to apply this to existing technology. Its my opinion that the wheel doesn't need to be reinvented, a simple retrofit will do.

      Not sure how deep you are into this, but there is more to it. Lots more.

      Regards
      I am looking at things that can not be described, no words exists. Go to the 3 minute speech and you will get an idea what I mean.

      Do I demonstrate Space Travel? Steel going to and away from BOTH Poles, Earth has both Poles, without changing any Poles...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Energy-Ingenuity.com View Post
        I am looking at things that can not be described, no words exists. Go to the 3 minute speech and you will get an idea what I mean.

        Do I demonstrate Space Travel? Steel going to and away from BOTH Poles, Earth has both Poles, without changing any Poles...
        You would not be here were it not for your prior discovery - and is it not the discovery which really counts - not the words !

        When Duncan introduced this topic I wrote -
        "The provided 'explanation' here is something I simply cannot understand as expressed."
        this being where my mind still is - not understanding. But I shall.
        Understanding ? Concepts ? Words ? So many concepts within physics can be described in different ways, and though some are not correct, they do at least provide a workable understanding.

        So I thank you for that lead:
        I will most definitely check it out later today, for there is clearly something here you feel a real need to share and get sorted !

        Yes, our Earth has both poles - due to spin - and the apparent polarity relates to a steadily rotating angular rotation in space, with that spin having different identity if observed from opposite axis ends !

        Magnets also simultaneously have two poles due to one internal electron spin-orbits alignment (atomically related) throughout its own body. However electron orbits are precessive, and not as purely simplistic and one way alignments as are the bar magnets they are capable of constituting.

        Similarly, soft iron can be induced to have both poles as internal electron orbits become aligned by a magnet or field coil, and there is only one rotational alignment through the body of the iron.


        However, spinning or vibrating soft iron in relation to the speed of its own magnetic precession characteristics (remanence), can induce it to undergo an additional 'free' polarity reversal within the induction time period mechanically provided by the equipment, where the magnet to iron magnetisation gap can be adjusted to alternate between series and parallel field induction.

        That 'free' intermediate alternating field reversal (electron orbit precession), cyclically arising via the timed (tuned) series-parallel 'charging' of soft iron by a permanent magnet, is as field coil transducible from its core, as would be a capacitor's discharge output when cyclically charged from a 'permanent battery'. And of course the primary field used to induce reversal could itself be from an energised field coil too, though then I would wonder about the COP.

        Do any of these words apply to your equipment, and have you arranged its output to be full cycle pulsing per single polar alignment, or double cycle outputing (quad amplitude rectifiable) per single rotation ?

        Cheers ................ Graham.
        Last edited by GSM; 11-03-2013, 12:07 PM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Energy-Ingenuity.com View Post
          I am looking at things that can not be described, no words exists. Go to the 3 minute speech and you will get an idea what I mean.

          Do I demonstrate Space Travel? Steel going to and away from BOTH Poles, Earth has both Poles, without changing any Poles...
          Hi Steve Thank you very much for coming onto the thread in order to explain a little more of the device you have contrived. I couldn't really care less if its called Jemima Puddle-Duck force if it does the business and I'm sure it does. You have obviously been researching many years and I might add with a pretty well stocked machine shop by the looks of things .. anyway certainly enough years to have got over the installed mind block that tells you COP>1 machines don’t exist.
          It's still firmly in place with a lot of folks I'm afraid, which is why periodically I post work I think has obvious merit … such as yours , If nothing else it loosens the mental block a little bit for a lot of folks as they consider and think of these things . I have managed to get a few machines running with what might be wrongly called “over unity” Hatem's, 3BGS and Peter Daveys heater just to name a few however I have yet to find the mathematical “solid ground” I guess we all seek .
          I suspect that's because we are dealing with a state of high entropy (disorder) be that electrostatic or magnetic . I Have no doubt tptb (the powers that be) have had the formula and resolution for well over a hundred years. (if not many many more) I cant help but think we all chase the same force anyway … if not certainly the same effect “free energy” I confess I had forgotten your device on this forum and that you had posted before .. still Things seem to have advanced and I can't say I'm sorry to have pulled it forward from the back burner so guys take a fresh look at what your doing !
          There are formidable well paid forces which infiltrate and infest forums rather like this one as John Bedini points out. Still all that aside there are still enough good guys pushing the issues to drive the point home ! Keep doing it Steve and again .. thanks for posting
          Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Energy-Ingenuity.com View Post
            Verified information, I generate both torque and AC, going in a circle or back and forth. This is another demonstration showing a piece of steel going to both Poles and then away from both Poles. I can and have demonstrated these reaction. Did you see that when a lamp load is applied forward motion increases and the input decrease below idle? US Paten#7531930 They are not required to issue a patent and they will not issue a patent on something that will not work as claimed, not in this day and age.

            Read the part at the bottom of the 3 minute speech marked "Food for thought". Is that demonstrating Global Warming, when Galileo Thermometer does not work properly? This is cause not by a Magnet, heat or cold... Plea for curriculum regarding Wardforce
            Hi Steven,

            Do please be aware that in spite of what you might think of my responses as they arise, my mind is capable of viewing electricity-magnetism-EM radiation in different ways, and thus I hope that I can visualise whatever comprehension you might be hoping your readers will come to understand, whether such realisation occurs or not.

            So now I am going to respond as I read through your request -
            >Read the part at the bottom of the 3 minute speech marked "Food for thought".<

            This appears after following your link above leading to page headed -
            Presented before the Texas State Board of Education on February 1, 2013

            So I am all fired up to study your findings, but under FOOD FOR THOUGHT there is no 3 minute speech ?

            Next I clicked on a link below where it says " Click here for clip" and I get
            Error -43: a file could not be found (TEA_GM020113-Pub0.smil)

            Cheers ............ Graham.

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            • #21
              Hi Steven,

              What are the 'Buy Now' and 'Donate' buttons for ?
              Are you Donating your self proclaimed knowledge towards a better world for humanity or not ?
              If I am expected to buy whatever your explanation is, then I most certainly shall not be - I have not had a job for 20+ years due to injury, and yet I have never ever expected anyone to pay me for any informations I have FREELY shared, or when published, I requested that all payments be made directly to a cancer hospice.

              Also, your stating of "outputs both electrical and mechanical energy" is meaningless in isolation, and a rotor speeding up when a switch is closed proves nothing without a full explanation of everything involved.

              Are you claiming that your arrangement outputs an energy total greater than that used to energise it, this such that your device is capable of running itself with a provision of excess output as Akula has demonstrated with his device atop a table out in his garden, similarly Kapanadze with his generator inside a fish tank out on a stony beach ?

              United States Patent: 7531930

              Free videos, hand drawings and list of materials needed

              So please, is there a page of links whereby you clearly share useful advice with explanatory drawings so that humanity might eventually free itself of the self appointed Powers That Be parasites presently giving themselves rights to not only control and tax (legalised theft) from all of us, but also to corrupt the minds of our young children ?

              Folk need better than this if they are not to waste time here in the same way that I already have !

              Cheers ................ Graham.
              Last edited by GSM; 11-04-2013, 03:03 PM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by GSM View Post
                Hi Steven,

                What are the 'Buy Now' and 'Donate' buttons for ?
                Are you Donating your self proclaimed knowledge towards a better world for humanity or not ?
                If I am expected to buy whatever your explanation is, then I most certainly shall not be - I have not had a job for 20+ years due to injury, and yet I have never ever expected anyone to pay me for any informations I have FREELY shared, or when published, I requested that all payments be made directly to a cancer hospice.

                Also, your stating of "outputs both electrical and mechanical energy" is meaningless in isolation, and a rotor speeding up when a switch is closed proves nothing without a full explanation of everything involved.

                Are you claiming that your arrangement outputs an energy total greater than that used to energise it, this such that your device is capable of running itself with a provision of excess output as Akula has demonstrated with his device atop a table out in his garden, similarly Kapanadze with his generator inside a fish tank out on a stony beach ?

                United States Patent: 7531930



                So please, is there a page of links whereby you clearly share useful advice with explanatory drawings so that humanity might eventually free itself of the self appointed Powers That Be parasites presently giving themselves rights to not only control and tax (legalised theft) from all of us, but also to corrupt the minds of our young children ?

                Folk need better than this if they are not to waste time here in the same way that I already have !

                Cheers ................ Graham.

                When I first came across his demonstration, I asked myself similar questions. I tried to the best of my ability to understand his explanation, (Mr. Ward's) didn't work for me either, I didn't let this stop me trying to comprehend what he was presenting though. I went on a patent search, and came up with one which gave a better explanation of the observed effect. This is when he first came to the forum. I brought this patent to his attention, and he left.

                Here is a quote from:

                5,191,258 - Electric Current Generator Including Torque Reducing Countermagnetic Field

                "An alternating electric current generator comprises an armature rotatable carried by a drive shaft and positioned between stabilized, non-moving magnetic elements. The armature has first and second magnetic field transmitting sections with a magnetized section sandwiched there between. As electric load is applied to the generator, a counter magnetic field is generated through the armature to increase speed of the drive shaft and thereby lessen torque required to rotate the drive shaft."

                I like this explanation better than the one that Mr. Ward has provided. In all honesty, and I mean no offense by this, I don't see how Mr. Ward was awarded a patent, when we look at the figure 2 from the patent I listed, and figure 4b from Mr. Wards patent, the images are "technically" one and the same...... ..... Fact is....the aforenamed patent is where I went to get a better understanding of whats happening. This principle is in my opinion also is related to the Kromrey device.

                Comparison between the two patents...




                Regards
                Last edited by erfinder; 11-04-2013, 05:55 PM.

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                • #23
                  Thank you very much Erfinder.

                  To me not OU, overly complicated, and having better efficiency ONLY when driven at speed. Hence very limited usefulness.

                  As Farmhand expressed here about that Kromrey device;-

                  Heretical Builders - View Single Post - Kromrey Converter

                  This is The End of this design type for me, because I believe the weakness with all three of these devices is that there cannot fail to be a motional drag as magnetic poles pass core limbs.

                  This is so very different to what Wesley Gary achieved 100+ years before these gentlemen. Wesley balanced magnet attraction against variable rate spring return force, and thus engineered the neutralisation of magnetic attraction force damping upon the cranked cyclic motion of his field transducing armature as it more effortlessly oscillated through parallel and series (alternating) linkages of a single stationary magnetic field. ( Genuine OU ! )

                  Cheers .............. Graham.
                  Last edited by GSM; 11-04-2013, 08:33 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by GSM View Post
                    Thank you very much Erfinder.

                    To me not OU, overly complicated, and having better efficiency ONLY when driven at speed. Hence very limited usefulness.

                    As Farmhand expressed here about that Kromrey device;-

                    Heretical Builders - View Single Post - Kromrey Converter

                    This is The End of this design type for me, because I believe the weakness with all three of these devices is that there cannot fail to be a motional drag as magnetic poles pass core limbs.

                    This is so very different to what Wesley Gary achieved 100+ years before these gentlemen. Wesley balanced magnet attraction against variable rate spring return force, and thus engineered the neutralisation of magnetic attraction force damping upon the cranked cyclic motion of his field transducing armature as it more effortlessly oscillated through parallel and series (alternating) linkages of a single stationary magnetic field. ( Genuine OU ! )

                    Cheers .............. Graham.
                    I would recommend you look deeper into this for yourself...Don't accept someone elses view. If you do your homework, you will find that there is more to this.....much more.

                    Regards

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by erfinder View Post
                      I would recommend you look deeper into this for yourself...Don't accept someone elses view. If you do your homework, you will find that there is more to this.....much more.

                      Regards
                      Thanks again erfinder, but I am already working to "Use the Spin Luke ... Neutralise the Force" via what I hope will be a non-motional Wesley Gary like design; completely portable without need for earth, no rotation, no mechanical tuning, nothing to wear out, no sparks, no transmutation, no hazardous radiation, and no detectable RF radiation. (Field induced electron axis spin in iron.)

                      Cheers ............... Graham.
                      Last edited by GSM; 11-04-2013, 10:20 PM.

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                      • #26
                        They grant patents even if they don't work.
                        Last edited by tachyon; 11-04-2013, 11:41 PM.
                        The pure in heart will see the light.

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                        • #27
                          Discoveries

                          Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                          Hi Steve Thank you very much for coming onto the thread in order to explain a little more of the device you have contrived. I couldn't really care less if its called Jemima Puddle-Duck force if it does the business and I'm sure it does. You have obviously been researching many years and I might add with a pretty well stocked machine shop by the looks of things .. anyway certainly enough years to have got over the installed mind block that tells you COP>1 machines don’t exist.
                          It's still firmly in place with a lot of folks I'm afraid, which is why periodically I post work I think has obvious merit … such as yours , If nothing else it loosens the mental block a little bit for a lot of folks as they consider and think of these things . I have managed to get a few machines running with what might be wrongly called “over unity” Hatem's, 3BGS and Peter Daveys heater just to name a few however I have yet to find the mathematical “solid ground” I guess we all seek .
                          I suspect that's because we are dealing with a state of high entropy (disorder) be that electrostatic or magnetic . I Have no doubt tptb (the powers that be) have had the formula and resolution for well over a hundred years. (if not many many more) I cant help but think we all chase the same force anyway … if not certainly the same effect “free energy” I confess I had forgotten your device on this forum and that you had posted before .. still Things seem to have advanced and I can't say I'm sorry to have pulled it forward from the back burner so guys take a fresh look at what your doing !
                          There are formidable well paid forces which infiltrate and infest forums rather like this one as John Bedini points out. Still all that aside there are still enough good guys pushing the issues to drive the point home ! Keep doing it Steve and again .. thanks for posting

                          If we don't teach others what we have learned, what good does it do for the future of our children, or mankind?

                          I have spent $1,000's, my whole life, trying to understand this, so that YOU and YOUR children will be able to learn about what I have discovered.
                          Sure I have a Patent. A Patent is defined as a "new" process or "an improvement" on a process. Anyone makes an improvement, they can get a Patent.

                          The point is I need funds, for support while I write this curriculum and for hiring an Editor. This is for YOUR children, my children know about Wardforce and some of these other discoveries which have been made.

                          I have duplicated Gravity, this mean I can define it. It is not what you think. I can cause Galileo Thermometer's to stop working properly, is this Global Warming? Is it space travel when steel is pulled toward both Poles and then repealed from both Poles?

                          Please help me, help you and your children, through sharing these discoveries which will advance our knowledge and understanding of the Universe.
                          Energy-Ingenuity.com

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                          • #28
                            How many patends do you have?

                            Originally posted by tachyon View Post
                            They grant patents even if they don't work.
                            If you have any, do they work as claimed? That is what I thought...

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                            • #29
                              Speech

                              Originally posted by GSM View Post
                              Hi Steven,

                              Do please be aware that in spite of what you might think of my responses as they arise, my mind is capable of viewing electricity-magnetism-EM radiation in different ways, and thus I hope that I can visualise whatever comprehension you might be hoping your readers will come to understand, whether such realisation occurs or not.

                              So now I am going to respond as I read through your request -
                              >Read the part at the bottom of the 3 minute speech marked "Food for thought".<

                              This appears after following your link above leading to page headed -
                              [COLOR="red"]Presented before the Texas State Board of Education on February 1, 2013[/C

                              So I am all fired up to study your findings, but under FOOD FOR THOUGHT there is no 3 minute speech ?

                              Next I clicked on a link below where it says " Click here for clip" and I get
                              Error -43: a file could not be found (TEA_GM020113-Pub0.smil)

                              Cheers ............ Graham.
                              This guy I work with, watched it today, this video provided by the Texas SBOE. It takes RealPlayer for you to be able to view the video.
                              The fist part is the speech, and under the "Food for thought" I tell about how Galileo Thermometers will stop working properly. How can you find something if you are not looking for it?

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                              • #30
                                Have a great day

                                If you want to learn, educate others about how forward and backward motion is controlled without changing any Poles. This means that the Poles are not the real cause for these reactions. Ask your self, does Aluminum have Magnetic properties? If you say no, then there is much more to learn.
                                Energy-Ingenuity.com
                                PS I may not be back for a while, just as the last time.

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