Mr Lester J Hendershot's magnetic generator.

[GSM]

The McFreey text - PDF.

Hi Cornboy and John.

I found that I could not copy/ save that McFreey article, and although interesting I did not feel it worthy of printing.

Mc Freey writes that it is the nucleii of atoms which precess under the influence of an alternating magnetic force, whereas I think that it is only the electron spin orbits which become altered.

Magneto-striction is a change in physical dimension due to magnetic alignment, so am I expected to believe that the nucleus of a atom will change its size or shape in response to a magnetic field ?
Sorry I cannot.
To me it is the alignment of electron orbits which cause *molecular domain* shape and dimension alteration.
Exactly the same as occurs with insulators and electrostriction, where there is not any magnetic field anyway.

I cannot believe that the structural alignment of every nucleus within every soft iron atom in say a magnetised bar reverses under the influence of an external field, though I can accept that atomic lattice alignments are fundamental in relation to the manner in which electron orbits become obliged to internally align within modern high power magnets like neos etc.

Ferrites can operate at frequencies up to 100MHz ? So if Mc Freey were correct, then how come the energy involved to alternate the 99.9% atomic nuclear matter alignments in a core with such speedy physical internal reversals does not cause them to explode ?
Electrons orbits of course could be reversed at these frequencies without problem, and are.

So I maintain that it is the gyroscopic electron orbits which are being precessed/ reversed, and not the atomic centers, though of course the ideas are similar.

Another way of looking at atoms is imagining as if they are like little solar systems.
If any interstellar field were to affect our solar system, would it not be the planetary orbits which would most significantly indicate its presence (outer valency electrons), and not the Sun's angle of rotation, nor the Sun's magnetic field, which regularly reverses internally anyway ?

Cheers .................... Graham.

[GSM]

Induced decay products of Iron.

My Hendershot device studies and thoughts led to me writing about the gyroscopic electron spin of iron atom electrons causing separation off of the equivalent of a hydrogen atom per iron atom, and I still have no reason to back down from thinking of this.
It fits in with the findings of pinhole rust, where manganese 'rust' is near indistinguishable from iron rust, especislly if being formed at near particulate level in air.

I have just now come across this -

Isotopes of iron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and there we have a full table of possibilities of decay products about half way down the page, including electron capture (if that is a correct description, for maybe it could be electron impact) for Mn.

Cheers ............... Graham.

[john_g]

Hi Cornboy and John.

I found that I could not copy/ save that McFreey article, and although interesting I did not feel it worthy of printing.

Mc Freey writes that it is the nucleii of atoms which precess under the influence of an alternating magnetic force, whereas I think that it is only the electron spin orbits which become altered.

Magneto-striction is a change in physical dimension due to magnetic alignment, so am I expected to believe that the nucleus of a atom will change its size or shape in response to a magnetic field ?
Sorry I cannot.
To me it is the alignment of electron orbits which cause *molecular domain* shape and dimension alteration.
Exactly the same as occurs with insulators and electrostriction, where there is not any magnetic field anyway.

I cannot believe that the structural alignment of every nucleus within every soft iron atom in say a magnetised bar reverses under the influence of an external field, though I can accept that atomic lattice alignments are fundamental in relation to the manner in which electron orbits become obliged to internally align within modern high power magnets like neos etc.

Ferrites can operate at frequencies up to 100MHz ? So if Mc Freey were correct, then how come the energy involved to alternate the 99.9% atomic nuclear matter alignments in a core with such speedy physical internal reversals does not cause them to explode ?
Electrons orbits of course could be reversed at these frequencies without problem, and are.

So I maintain that it is the gyroscopic electron orbits which are being precessed/ reversed, and not the atomic centers, though of course the ideas are similar.

Another way of looking at atoms is imagining as if they are like little solar systems.
If any interstellar field were to affect our solar system, would it not be the planetary orbits which would most significantly indicate its presence (outer valency electrons), and not the Sun's angle of rotation, nor the Sun's magnetic field, which regularly reverses internally anyway ?

Cheers .................... Graham.

This stuff gets so difficult. I was reading Dewey Larson's writings last week and he was putting forward the evidence or the lack of it for electrons being part of an atom!

[GSM]

This stuff gets so difficult. I was reading Dewey Larson's writings last week and he was putting forward the evidence or the lack of it for electrons being part of an atom!

Non-mathematical PROOF ?

[Ruphus]

I think the field theory in this link is close to correct. I'm not too keen on gravitons but I liked most of what's here.

The Nature Of The Electron - Hypography Science Forums

[GSM]

I think the field theory in this link is close to correct. I'm not too keen on gravitons but I liked most of what's here.

The Nature Of The Electron - Hypography Science Forums

Thanks for the good link Rufus.
Scientists come up with the most mindboggling ideas (deliberately?), but Nature is simple, and not simple = stupid, nor mathematically complex.

From your link dated 25th May 2011.

(PhysOrg.com) -- Scientists at Imperial College London have made the most accurate measurement yet of the shape of the humble electron, finding that it is almost a perfect sphere, in a study published in the journal Nature today.
Using a very precise laser, they made careful measurements of the motion of these electrons. If the electrons were not perfectly round then, like an unbalanced spinning-top, their motion would exhibit a distinctive wobble, distorting the overall shape of the molecule. The researchers saw no sign of such a wobble.

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The model of the electron has been repeatedly refined and proven for over 100 years,
it being a point of negatively charged matter circling an atomic nucleus.
The circling matter of an electron(s) behaves like a gyroscope.
A circling charge is like a magnet, like current in a super-conducting ring.
Thus polarising the magnetic field around an atom, or the molecule the atom is part of, cannot fail to make electron orbits align with that field.
Thus alternating a magnetic field around an atom/ molecule cannot fail but to make associated electron orbits precess.

Ed Leedskalnin's 'magnetic current' in his keeper closed soft iron permanent magnetic holder is the alignment of electron orbits of iron molecules into a closed permanent magnetic loop.
That magnetic circuit itself becomes permanent because it is sustained by serially plus axilally aligned orbits of continuously circling and axially attracting atomic electrons until either the magnetic or physical (electron spin-axis alignment or proximity) circuit is broken !!!

The storage of potential energy in Ed's magnetic holder of gyroscopic electrons is much like having an axial row of the "Wheel-works of Nature" demonstrated in Paul's link - -

Hi GSM, I have been studying Prof Laithwaite's work. In particular that demonstration.

I came across this video tonight.

Wheel momentum Walter Lewin.wmv - YouTube

Something interesting going in these mechanical behaviours.
After all Tesla was a mechanical engineer.

Does all this mechanical motion have some bearing on what electricity might be doing perhaps and how to harness it in a better way?
Definitely something in common with a lot of these electrical devices.
Think of Tesla's mechanical resonator that was supposed to amplify mechanical energy.
Just a few thoughts.
Best regards,

Paul

Our problem is that we are educated in electricity and magnetism separately, these being linked by fields, and not taught about the fundamental self sustaining gyroscopic auto-magnetic nature of atomic electrons, as Leedskalnin did try to open our minds to.

Cheers ................. Graham.

[Bob Smith]

GSM,
You reference the magnetic current in Leedskalnin's keeper as:

serially plus axilally aligned orbits of continuously circling and axially attracting atomic electrons

You also mention:

Our problem is that we are educated in electricity and magnetism separately, these being linked by fields, and not taught about the fundamental self sustaining gyroscopic auto-magnetic nature of atomic electrons, as Leedskalnin did try to open our minds to.

I'm struggling to understand what electricity is in light of this - would like to say more but I'm at work and someone just walked in - lunch over

Edit: Back home now. Okay, I understand that there is magnetic current, and recognize that there is a thing called electricity. In the mag current, is there in fact something moving or racing around (e.g., in the Leedskalnin keeper) as the name "current" suggests, within this "serially plus axially aligned orbits of continuously circling and axially attracting atomic electrons"? When I view SM's TPU videos and see and how he starts it up with a magnet, it suggests to me that he's doing this to get the magnetic current racing around the toroid so that his pickup coils can tap into its passing (perhaps similarly in Don Smith's metglass MEG) to harvest electricity. Is the notion of "current" in this case actually an oxymoron? Might it just be simply dynamic in terms of axial alignment and electron spin and atomic attraction, but not actually racing around? Is current just a crude, but misguided label for this phenomenon?

I'm open to an explanation as to how electricity and magnetic current are more fundamentally related than current textbook explanations express. I also can't help but think of Dave 45's quest to separate the electric field from the magnetic in order to tap into a rich supply of electricity. How exactly do you see these two (electricity & mag current) relating in terms of electron spin, axial alignment, attraction, etc.,?
Bob

[GSM]

Hi Bob,

The questions are getting deeper - hence my dives take longer before I'm back to the surface.

Good one from you.
But I also hope you too have an answer and have your own ideas interpreted in order to bounce against mine.

However today the weather is dry and there is a pot of outdoor wall paint waiting for me, so back soon.

Cheers ............... Graham.

PS.
All 'free energy' devices work via the same fundamentals, and there is so much work being done by members of this forum that other's here must understand the ideas they are chasing. No other comments or input ?????

[GSM]

Corrections ?

I'm getting real fed up with the situation here.
Sometimes I am able to error correct a post, sometimes not.

With the last one above as I write this, yet again I'm reduced to copy-paste into desktop wordpad, correct it, and then again copy-paste to repost on the forum.
As below for Sunday 22nd Sept, when completed.

[GSM]

GSM,

I'm struggling to understand what electricity is in light of this -

I'm open to an explanation as to how electricity and magnetic current are more fundamentally related than current textbook explanations express.

I also can't help but think of Dave 45's quest to separate the electric field from the magnetic in order to tap into a rich supply of electricity.

How exactly do you see these two (electricity & mag current) relating in terms of electron spin, axial alignment, attraction, etc.,?

Bob

[GSM]

[Bob Smith]

[GSM]

Thanks for your comment Bob.

I am not a scientist, so I cannot state that that is the case, but those are my thoughts as well.

This appeared on me today, and I found myself unable to access this forum for several hours, not even via my wife's laptop. I wonder why ?

Hope to be back tomorrow.

Cheers ............... Graham.

[Bob Smith]

Graham,
Same screen appeared to me as well. Thought I had been booted from the club until I tried pulling up the umbrella EF site on another computer, and got the same screen again. I surmise it's probably just a server problem.
Hope the painting's going well.
Bob

[GSM]

Oh dear, this post is long again.

In post 371, I was trying to render imagineable a concept of electric current flow as based upon a field effect -
not a voltage field effect, but an electron spin-orbit-induced magnetic field effect -
a *transverse* like wave of induced electron spin magnetic axis re-alignments through a conductor at near light speed -
ie. an induced 3-D *angular* wave of electron orbits about the nucleii of metal atoms.


Yet when we attempt to induce a magnetic wave to 'flow' through a rod of iron (Tesla's Pierce Arrow?) -
the magnetic spin axes of electrons about those iron atoms do not (cannot except for some at the surface) change angle at near light speed,
nor indeed typically faster than even a uS unless the iron domains have been granulated, or ferrited, or alloyed, or plated,
this because the atomic electrons are more closely related to their remanent domain neighbours than they are to the external induction field.

Via external field induction we venture into electron *spin orbit dynamics* whereupon the magnetic field induced force experienced by an electron in isolation cannot any longer be atomic nucleus centric, and thus the externally influenced moment of angular force which the electron spin precession axis experiences effectively becomes separated from the nucleus, as like in the Laithwaite video I have linked.

Could this be the Omega from here;- http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ad.php?t=14445)
this being like when outer Solar System planetary orbits become disturbed by externally located Interstellar forces, with the result that for the time in which forces act upon the planet its motion is no longer purely orbital wrt to the Sun.
The resultant radian motion is no longer related to the Sun, hence wrt the Solar System its orbit becomes quite distorted, with not only a risk of collision with other less affected and more closely orbiting planets, but upon release from the external influence, if considerable, there is additionally the possiblity for eventual Sun-diving, or for eventual capture into the orbit of another star.

I am attempting to emphasise here the quite different electron orbit relationships possible via coincidental electric current flow and external magnetic field inducement within and at the surface of a metal (iron) core, or even between inhomgegeous domains, and how via
the Alpha from here;- http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ad.php?t=14445
this can then lead to the controlled low level splitting of non-radioactive atoms.
This of course then being the release of energy from matter (or energy from the Aether where there is the concept that matter is of Aether) for it is the matter itself which is the fuel !

Now what do we see in the Hendershot device -

a steel (iron) sleeve core, this simultaneously being - a short circuit single turn,
which when energised and electromagnetically tuned via a medium value hand made capacitor coupled fourth winding develops highly remanent alternating current flow alignment of iron domain related electron spin orbit axes.

there are also three impulse energised windings,
the outer two in phase opposition
the middle phased by a capacitor to resonate field motion within the core at the low frequency of mechanical buzzer oscillation = desired output frequency.

also these three windings are impulse energised by the 'currents' generated by field reversals due to armature position wrt the buzzer magnet -
this is a step function capable of initiating resonances through a broad bandwith, and higher in frequency than the sleeve core current controlled domains can react to,
the fields thus generated within the sleeve core thus impulse energise highly energetic electron spin axis rotations over already current induced+aligned remanent magnetic domains, also within surface domains with respect to inner domains
as illustrated in post 352 above,
the outer iron domains of the sleeve cores within Hendershot's original construction were additionally tin plated.

The impulse energised vortexes arising at outer domain discontinuities could induce spin axis rotations between domains and (as with adjacently passing planetary systems) differentially gyrate electron orbit axes beyond those centric with individually based nucleus related spin orbits, thus occasionally inducing electron motion courses into the nucleii themselves.
Possible 'electron capture', though to me this explanation is not entirely correct.

Kapanadze uses brass for his separately energised short circuit current electron spin orbit alignment loop, plus spark impluse driven series connected CW+CCW windings to induce the domain vortexes therein.

Must go - other things to do

Cheers ............. Graham.