Vassilatos Debunked

[HairBear]

What ever Aaron. Your hot headed and you talk too much. And most of what you say is either selling something or slinging mud. I have shared enough with you to know it's not worth my time.

Go! Bounce your balls!

[Allcanadian]

@All
I guess I should make my position clear --- I think your all whackO
It reminds me of the Dr.Suess Butter Battle Book I used to read to my kids where the butter side up folks end up trying to nuke the butter side down folks, why in the hell wouldn't they just have cereal instead, maybe a nice tossed salad?.

The fact is nobody has any real facts nor proof concerning the foundation on which everything we know is built which means everything we know works the way we would expect until it doesn't and that's when the problems start.

For instance it has supposedly been proven that quantum entanglement can send information at speeds hundreds of times faster than the speed of light. So Einstein's theories which is the basis for modern physics goes out the window because Einstein said as much. Now we have another problem, if something was moving faster than the speed of light it could seem to appear out of nowhere from nothing not unlike our supposed virtual particles from other mysterious and unknown universes.

My point is mainstream physics is even stranger **** than anything I have ever seen proposed here concerning overunity so I have no idea why anyone in their right mind would believe all the mainstream theories and not those proposed here. It's like saying I believe in little green men from mars but don't think we will ever go there, that's impossible, no it's whackO. In this respect I see no reason why one impossible unproven theory is not as good as the next.

At best I think we should make a reasonable arguement and encourage rational debate so that at some point we may find a theory that works in reality. I may not believe much but when I hear something that seems to make sense that I can test or apply in reality well then that's a good thing. All this petty squabbling, he said she said, is pretty much pointless in my opinion. That's my 2 cents

Regards
AC

[Joit]

BORING same old excuses keep drinking that kool aid son gotta to love conspiracy nuts lol

and as for dollard he caused most of his problems himself with his arrogant attitude as you can see for yourself on his thread anytime someone questions one of his theorys he insults them not exactly going to win friends by doing is he

questioning theorys is how science evolves and develops so as long as dollard continues to behave in that way no true scientist will take him seriously

beam me up scotty

Beavis, cant you read or not understand what i did write?

Do i need to quote myself all time again, to show you twice, what i have said?

Go on and call E. Dollard a Conspiracy Theorist too, because he probatly lied with his Story in your Opinion too,
also all others Inventors, what had Devices what your 'Fellow Scientists' could not agree with, but then they been chased at the End, until the most from her knowledge was gone for the public.

Thats not about how the Thread did go, what he did not even start.
But that twisting Words is one from your special Skills, what you allready proove, and blaming him personal is just another lousy arguing from you,
beside that you want claim here, that you did know him personally before 15 years or more. Mr. Iknowanything.


But i just laugh about you guys, when you sit in your forums and tinker with your Controllers, nothing comes around as some 'handy Candys' but anyone feels like a little Tesla.

What you call questioning is quacking to modify the screwed models, to change them afterwards over and over again, but OH Wait: "The Scientific Model is not complete, and can be changed anytime".
Thats then the last dump excuse, when they hit the Bottom.

Just look where the Joule thief has been the whole Years with this "Great Science". That is a hobby Project, what did some Guys do AFTER Bedinis Circuits been more public. But not your "Fellow Scientists". And still, JT is still ignored from most EE, even when it has a way higher efficence then the other crap out there, but, i see they 'working on it' allready again, to have similar Circuits and then to claim, they 'developed' it. Your "Fellows Scientists".
Furthermore it only shows how ridicoulus and selfloved you are in your way to adore the common Science.

Yeah beam him up Scotty, directly into the combustion chamber because he dont sound better then that, what goes outwards there.




But Hairybairy, you get that wrong, Aaron only brings the punching ball out for Kids like you are, that even you can have a little little Clue, what he is talking about. You should be actually thankfull for that.

[HairBear]

Joity Boity! You seem to have a much better understanding of the concepts than the rest of us. Your excellent description of Aaron's balls leads me to believe you are intimately acquainted with them. How else could you know so much about them, unless, he had repeatedly put them in your face. Are you thankful he did? Personally? I don't care for Aaron's balls, I prefer green eggs and ham, Sam, I am...

[Aether84]

i like you joit

Beavis, cant you read or not understand what i did write?

Do i need to quote myself all time again, to show you twice, what i have said?



Thats not about how the Thread did go, what he did not even start.
But that twisting Words is one from your special Skills, what you allready proove, and blaming him personal is just another lousy arguing from you,
beside that you want claim here, that you did know him personally before 15 years or more. Mr. Iknowanything.


But i just laugh about you guys, when you sit in your forums and tinker with your Controllers, nothing comes around as some 'handy Candys' but anyone feels like a little Tesla.

What you call questioning is quacking to modify the screwed models, to change them afterwards over and over again, but OH Wait: "The Scientific Model is not complete, and can be changed anytime".
Thats then the last dump excuse, when they hit the Bottom.

Just look where the Joule thief has been the whole Years with this "Great Science". That is a hobby Project, what did some Guys do AFTER Bedinis Circuits been more public. But not your "Fellow Scientists". And still, JT is still ignored from most EE, even when it has a way higher efficence then the other crap out there, but, i see they 'working on it' allready again, to have similar Circuits and then to claim, they 'developed' it. Your "Fellows Scientists".
Furthermore it only shows how ridicoulus and selfloved you are in your way to adore the common Science.

Yeah beam him up Scotty, directly into the combustion chamber because he dont sound better then that, what goes outwards there.




But Hairybairy, you get that wrong, Aaron only brings the punching ball out for Kids like you are, that even you can have a little little Clue, what he is talking about. You should be actually thankfull for that.

spoken like a true believer be happy living in your ignorant world i have a feeling your going to be there for a long time

Common Science as you put it has given us all the technology abound us including the computer you type your gibberish with so your damn right i do adore the modren science

it took us out of the age of superstition and made the modren world what exactly has your heros bedini bearden lindemann given the world? apart from gibberish and endless promises that they dont fulfill

and if you dont like it why dont you slaughter a goat and praise the flying spaghetti monster all hail the spaghetti monster

[t-rex]

USS Lucifer NFG-666

(1) Here commissioned is the U.S.S Lucifer, a nuclear flash class vessel. It bears the cleansing light of the hydrogen bomb. The bringer of light, Lucifer, the light that leaves its victims blind. The "cleansing" white light.

(2) Of what purpose, or benefit, is gained in starting a Vassilatos whacking channel. Go whack on the Taliban, that is why the Government created them, as targets for the homicidal lust of the all American beef eating savage in his empty six wheel pickup truck.

(3) Methyl Aether type 84, it takes your eye sight away more slowly. I take great delight in twisting the snouts of such vermin. What a useless creature, a real piece of sh*t.

(4) Scientists, what scientists? There are no scientists here, nor are there any engineers. Do you want to know what I think of you all, an analog of the school teacher who spoon fed his jizz to his unsuspecting 1st grade students. That is what pre-dominates the energetic forum. Should we be nice to such people?

(5) And why in the Hell do I want friends? FU friends like Bales, Stolte, & Johnson, friends that helped to destroy my very existence. Yes friends. But the work of Gerry Vassilatos helped me greatly, the pictures and diagrams that I wanted to see for 20 years, this leading to the development of my telluric antenna and earthquake forecasting system. In "Secrets of Cold War Technology" his principle objective was to quell the rising B.S. HAARP conspiracy of Begich(Angels Don't Play this Harp) and friends, a grand re-enactment of Bearden's woodpecker Soviet Scalar Conspiracy. It is the Chinese blasting away now, just ask the HAMS on 40M C.W. Not a peep here on the forum is there? This book of Vassilatos may confuse a gammatron with a thyratron, but its description of military tech development is well portrayed, as well as his analysis of the mind of the conspiracy zealot. The Vril Compendium contains inordinate quantities of important historical data now lost from the public libraries. Vassilatos, as a high school science teacher, attempts to instill enthusiasm in his students, to cultivate their interest in science. His quote "Radio History is Stranger Than Fiction" intimates the "Twilight Zone" existence that I have lived through. This intensity has possibly resulted in the demise of Vassilatos, but I have no info. I will say this; most of my real friends are now DEAD or INSANE.

FU DE N6KPH

[Aether84]

USS Lucifer NFG-666


Methyl Aether type 84, it takes your eye sight away more slowly. I take great delight in twisting the snouts of such vermin. What a useless creature, a real piece of sh*t.


FU DE N6KPH

welcome to the fun house eric

see that is exactly bad attitude that i'm talking about if you continue with that attitude none of your ideas will ever be taken seriously and you & your work will be thrown in the bin and you will have no one to blame but yourself

if you and the others want to pretend to be scientists than you must follow the rules of science or else your just talking BULL

and if you want money dont get other pepole to beg for it because thats just sad get a job like everybody else all hail the spaghetti monster

[Aether]

Unless you provide something of substance(research, abstract mathematical analysis, a theory relevant to electrical research), Aether84, then your are just ****ting over others, nothing has been debunked here, this is just alot of noise. Vassilatos' basic analysis is for the beginners looking for help to formulate a broader picture of some lost science(such as Tesla's work) in easy to understand layman terms. The engineering is left to the engineers. Anyone with even a basic background in engineering can see that Eric's work is extremely useful and quite exciting. As someone who has formally studied the subject in school, I have learned more about electricity with Eric's Four Quadrant Theory and all the references that he has provided than with anything I was ever taught.

[Aaron]

good bye

(free energy" field isn't a technological problem, it is psychological problem)- WHAT HORSE**** that is what most con artist say its not me its you who cant understand it

i will say what i allways say to people making wild clams PROVE IT in clinical double-blind study but of course you and the others wont do that will you because than all your clams will be proven wrong & you and the others wont be able to con gullible pepole

(the burden of proof is on the believer not on the sceptic) if you dont believe this than don't pretend that it is science because its not for over 20 years these guys have been saying these things and still no proof most intelligent people would ask why if a person keeps promising and not delivering

but of course you wont will you? because if you do you would have to explain to people why you have been supporting liars and charlatans for so long

this is my last post on this subjet because your ignorance bores me some people are just happy living in ignorance because it's easier than having to think for ones self.

GOOD BYE Aaron

Good way to get around the fact that you manipulate my words (lying), misdirect the attention to something else to keep from having to face the fact that it is plain as day that you can't acknowledge it (deception), etc...

Everything you're saying has ZERO to do with believing some of what someone says and discounting the rest.

Good bye...may it be sincere.

[Aaron]

math - not mouth

What ever Aaron. Your hot headed and you talk too much. And most of what you say is either selling something or slinging mud. I have shared enough with you to know it's not worth my time.

Go! Bounce your balls!

Not sure what you shared with me that has helped me.

Debate the MATH if you can... the fact is you cannot... it is 3rd grade math with junior high formulas. You simply cannot get around the reality of it and you poke fun at it because it destroys the bs in a ridiculously simple way that any child can understand and you seem to want to believe it must be much more complicated.

Not interested in MOUTH.

[Aaron]

dark vs light

Beavis, cant you read or not understand what i did write?

Do i need to quote myself all time again, to show you twice, what i have said?

The pattern is habitual - he will continue to roll on forward like a car that is stuck in the grooves on a highway that is well worn...to pull it out would be a shock to the system.

1. He will say something that implies you said something different. (manipulating what you said)

2. If you point it out, he will try to misdirect your attention to something else hoping you and everyone will focus on something entirely different so that everyone will forget the original point.

That is the method of operation that countless people have used that serve one thing and one thing only - darkness. They fear anything that will cast even the dimmest light because even a candle flame can diminish the darkness in an entire room. When someone lives in that mindset for so long, the slightest bit of truth is painful to the eyes and they will fight it to their own demise.

[Aaron]

talk is cheap

it took us out of the age of superstition and made the modren world what exactly has your heros bedini bearden lindemann given the world? apart from gibberish and endless promises that they dont fulfill

and if you dont like it why dont you slaughter a goat and praise the flying spaghetti monster all hail the spaghetti monster

Given the world?

Aside from the insult that would come from a 5 year old - (spaghetti monster - should I laugh now or later?), I know from direct experience working with people all around the world involved with battery rejuvenation businesses built off of John Bedini's battery chargers that thousands of tons of batteries that would otherwise be taken to the scrap yard are back in full service. Besides his other contributions, this one single contribution in my opinion deserves some respect whether you actually understand anything he does or not.

This is not theoretical and they're not claimed to be free energy battery chargers. They recondition the batteries to 80% to 110% of brand new because they literally rebuild the chemistry of the battery. This includes everything from cell phone tower back up battery systems that only get used occasionally to solar homes with battery banks that get used and abused on a daily basis to the typical starter battery in cars, etc...

This is an endless promise that isn't fulfilled? They do actually MORE than what John claims they will - he underpromises and over delivers. For almost 15 years, he has repeated until he is blue in the face that his energizers are not going to show you any free energy - all the effects show up in the battery when the chemistry translates the potential. I can only guess you would be one of the many to put meters on the input and output of the energizers and claim you see no free energy therefore he is lying - many have come before you with the same nonsense games and they all wind up leaving with their tail tucked between their legs when the realize that isn't what it is about. If you can't understand that, you should stop commenting - it can't get any simpler.

You do not demonstrate what you know - you only demonstrate what you DO NOT KNOW.

You think he claims a lot of things that are not fulfilled? That is only true in the mind of someone that is incapable of even comprehending what he is saying.

If you have contributed anything to this world, to this forum, to your neighbor, etc... that is worth mentioning, I'd like to hear it and I'm only guessing I'm not the only one. Until you can show you have ever done anything for anyone else, for this world as you mention, I just think this speaks for itself that you have no room to talk until you can show something. Talk is cheap as we all know.

[Aaron]

destroying paradigms with childish experiments

But Hairybairy, you get that wrong, Aaron only brings the punching ball out for Kids like you are, that even you can have a little little Clue, what he is talking about. You should be actually thankfull for that.

Thanks for bringing that up Joit. When people attack the messenger because they are incapable of attacking the message - that only shows their fragile paradigm is on a delicate balance has has just been tipped. Most people are incapable of dealing with change. Some attack the messenger or have temper tantrums, etc... or all the above.

After a couple years 100% of the "skeptics" or "another brick in the wall" conformists have never been able to debate me on the bouncing ball example. It is simply a poke in the eye of conventional thermodynamics, Einstein's bogus static gravitational model, etc... from a stupid little 25 cent bouncing ball.

Anyone like hair or anyone else that has a problem with it doesn't have a problem with it because it is wrong, but because it is simply inconceivable to them how their own paradigm can be destroyed by something so simple.

Any goofball should be able to add up all the force x distance on every cycle in a mechanical system to see all work dissipated and compare that to work done to get the system going in order to see that "free energy" if that is over 1.0 COP is everywhere and is practically dripping off the walls all around us as every natural system is.

Any one of these people should go to a driving range at a golf course with hundreds or thousands of golf balls on the range - dig a one meter hole and try to explain to me how a mythical x amount of mgh potential suddenly manifested in every single golfball on the ground - and every at ground level or above that ground level for hundreds or thousands of square miles, including the silverware in my kitchen drawer. They don't have enough common sense to see this clearly. It will only show them that the potential in the textbooks is nothing more than a mind trick of perspective and has absolutely nothing to do with any sort of potential at all.

And to go off on pornographic insults just because their delicate little paradigm was melted away like a snowflake in hell just proves my point.

Anyway, thanks again.

[Aaron]

false wisdom

Anger shows fear, fear shows lack of confidence.

Wow, what "wisdom".

Therefore, in your own words, regardless of what the real history is, you are stating that Jesus has no confidence because he was so angry that he kicked over the money changers tables.

Whether you believe in Jesus or not is irrelevant. It is common enough that most people know the reference and that your statement is simply entertaining.

[RAMSET]

A link to the bouncing ball.

Aaron
Perhaps a link to the "bouncing Ball analogy" for those of us that are unaware?

Thx
Chet