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WFC Electron Extraction Circuit (EEC)
WFC Electron Extraction Circuit (EEC)
This thread for EEC discussion. When water is pulled apart, electron is freed and if not removed can be used to help gases recombine to water preventing abundance of gas production. EEC according to the later diagrams and explantion is turned ON when the trigger power pulse is turned OFF. Therefore they are 180 out of phase flip flopping. On off pulse, EEC is switched on to conduct the electrons from water, to positive plate, to be burned by filament and connected back to power input. |
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Any Ideas?
Have you came up with any designs for this? I wonder how beneficial this would be to experiment with, I mean if it can increase gas yield by 30% more than I think this might be a very important area for us to start looking into.
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EEC diagram
Hi Redmeanie,
Here is a diagram from Meyer's tech brief: ![]() The red is the EEC path. It is triggered by a flip/flop so that when the power pulse is on, eec is off and when power pulse is off, eec turns on. I think it is a brilliant concept if it really works as claimed. It seems that Meyer only used it later for further gas production but not as a necessity for the wfc to work. I heard that Dave Lawton had great results with the EEC but I don't know if that is actually confirmed. |
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simple eec
Is there any reason this can't work? Seems a simple way to do it.
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If you look at fig. 3.2 in the tech breif it shows the EEC on the gas processor.
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you are working on a small injector. the EEC circuit does not use a electrolysis cell from my understanding. it makes HOD from a water mist, "under compression with outside air."
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eec
Yes, but through the H2Earth's chatroom etc,... they're saying Dave Lawton used it with his water cell to light the 40watt bulb. Did Dave not really do this or did he only have it hooked up above the water through another tube setup that only the gases were going through?
It has been said pretty clearly by them that it is connected to the tubes submerged in water. Conceptually, it seems it would work on submerged tubes as well. Under an electron cascade effect, the EEC should conceptually pull a lot of those electrons to the pos plate and to the bulb to be burned. Then there is even more separation in the water itself. If it doesn't work in water then I don't have to waste time with it at this point but if simple enough to try, would be interesting to see results. |
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electron extraction
After reading Bearden, when you put a voltage potential across a Cap but do not allow electrons to flow, he states that electrons will manifest them selves from the vacuum. Could not the same phenomenon be occurring hear and the WFC be acting like a cap and the VIC is applying the “Voltage Potential” to the WFC and the Vacuum be supplying the electrons, “free for the picking” or “electron extraction”?
Happy experimenting
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Working Electron Extraction Circuit
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![]() Lamp powered entirely by the Free Electron Current drawn from solution by the EECL It works according to this website: Making a Hydrogen Generator What I would like to know is why couldn't you store the electrical energy from the Electron Extraction Circuit and then re-use that stored electrical energy to power the Water Fuel Cell to produce more HHO gas?
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Request for Clarification
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WFC Electron Extraction Circuit (EEC)
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Method of Meyer and Latwon is "consume" electrons, that method increase the gas production but what appear if energy extracted from cell can be resend inside circuit? That surely increase X times gas production with low amperage.
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Electricity From Electrolysis by way of WFC Electron Extraction Circuit (EEC).
I had this thread on my brain last night. It's like energy recovery for electrolysis. Making a Hydrogen Generator Stan Meyer's Electron Extraction Circuit - YouTube S_Meyer_Electron_Extraction - YouTube Ravi RAJU REPLICAS of MEYER Electrolyzer - WATER as FUEL - MDG 2007 Recovering some of the electrical energy. Regards, VIDBID PS: Who's this guy? How Meyer Circuits Work, EXACTLY - YouTube
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electrons are not extracted
Hi, this is typical of Meyer, electrons are not extracted, positive and negative charge has to balance.
Think of a battery, the electrons move from the battery when a circuit is made such as a bulb, these electrons then move into the bulb, create light and heat and then move out of the bulb and back to the battery to maintain the same charge relation of posive and negative. The EEC was a change of the type of gas to a different molecular structure, but the same number of electrons are still there as in the "battery". Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuzY...43OcdiNU0ZHt_Q Also watch the induction vid as well, I thought it was well explained. regards Mike ![]()
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![]() ![]() Perhaps, the output going to the filament load could be sent to another electrolysis cell.
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Patent #4,798,661 Gas Generator Voltage Control Circuit
Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US4798661A/en
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electron extraction circuit
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EEC well explained
EEC well explained https://youtu.be/EyVo38NLlr0
The primary positive plate of the water capacitor is insulated. The electron recovery plate is not insulated, neither is the negative ground plate.
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