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Nitrogen Hydroxide ?

I've been digging around the net and have found just enough info on this to be curious. Has anyone here ever tried it. If it works it sounds easier than trying to replicate an electronic circuit. Any information that you may pass along would be appreciated.
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You pull intake air going into the engine through it. It is similiar to a hho type cell but different . Nitrogen hydroxide is supposed to be created and burned in the engine with only a very small amount of fossil fuel used.
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this also interests me i found some actuall info on it. will try find it again.
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Nitrogen Hydroxide

Nitrogen Hydroxide - valid?

Positive charged air + HHO/HOH enters vacuum during intake and possibly
makes nitrogen hydroxide?
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Nitrogen Hydroxide - valid?

Positive charged air + HHO/HOH enters vacuum during intake and possibly
makes nitrogen hydroxide?
Hey Aaron, maybe this is the Nitrogen connection your looking for, could it be?

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Would be nice lol

I'm still going to do the experiment even if I don't understand it.
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Nitrogen Hydroxide

"nitrogen hydroxide" - Google Search

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Wiley InterScience :: Session Cookies
H2NO3

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H2O + ONO + ion = N2NO3

That has a lot of claims about nitrogen hydroxide. I don't want to put
all this in the Ionization & Water Fuel thread if it is off track and I
don't want to clutter that thread with this if not relevant.

Alternative Science and Technology Research Organisation

http://zpe.pcse.us/HHO/WaterCarPlans...on2JoeCell.pdf

http://files.myopera.com/H2earth/fil...xide%20D18.pdf

NEMO ALERT: Australian Fuel System Alternate-Energy

(N(OH)2O) or N(oh)2 or NH4OH or

water fuel systems
Operating Unit
http://web.archive.org/web/200410130...om/wnotezz.htm
Untitled Document

YouTube - Nitrogen Hydrogen Booster- WFC
OUPower.com :: View topic - mrgalleria, can you test the Nickel again?

AHANW Forums - Dingel's Magic Car and How It Could Save the World

Self-consistent-field calculation of nitrosyl hydride and nitrogen hydroxide - Inorganic Chemistry (ACS Publications)

HHO

HHO Cell Kit

The Water Engine - The water engines!

Water-Fuel Generator Kit by inventor Carl Cella

Journal of the Society of Chemical ... - Google Books

There are other links, just wanted to get the ball rolling.
Anyway, it's a real live molecule verified by spectrum analysis
it appears.



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Cover Picture: Experimental Detection of the H2NO3 Radical (ChemPhysChem 10/2003)Fulvio Cacace, Prof. Dr. *, Giulia de Petris, Prof. Dr. *, Anna Troiani, Dr.Dipartimento di Studi di Chimica e Tecnologia delle Sostanze Biologicamente Attive, Università di Roma La Sapienza, P.le A. Moro 5, 00185 Roma, Italy, Fax: (+39)06-49-913-602
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setDOI("ADOI=10.1002/cphc.200390107")Keywordsinorganic radicals • gas-phase chemistry • mass spectrometry • nitric acid • short-lived intermediatesAbstractThe cover pictures showsthe mass spectrum of nitrogen hydroxide oxide, the H2NO3. radical, which was discovered by neutralization reionization mass spectrometry (NRMS) and characterized as a relatively long-lived (over 1 s) metastable species. The discovery required the availability of the appropriate charged precursor that fortunately had previously been prepared by this group (1989) as a result of their sustained interest in gas-phase ion chemistry of nitrates, nitrites and related molecules. Cacace et al. found that protonation of nitric acid by strong Brønsted acids yields, in addition to the H2ONO2+ ion, smaller amounts of the less stable (HO)2NO+ isomer, namely charged nitrogen hydroxide oxide. This result has allowed the present discovery by NRMS (yellow trace), whereas NRMS of the H2ONO2+ ion does not result in detectable H2NO3. neutral species (green trace). The importance of nitrogen hydroxide oxide stems from its relevance to a variety of research areas, from the reduction of the NO32- anion, to atmospheric chemistry, radiolysis of nuclear-waste solutions, the charge-transfer mechanism of aromatic nitration, etc. Find out more in the communication by Cacace et al. on pp. 1128-131.Digital Object Identifier (DOI)
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There are other links, just wanted to get the ball rolling.
Anyway, it's a real live molecule verified by spectrum analysis
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There is a story behind Nitrogen Hydroxide. It might be in all those links, but I am not going to read all of them to find out but I will relay it to you guys.

At the close of WW II, when the Russians and the US were closing in on Hitler and chasing him all over Germany, there was a discovery made.

If I am not mistaken, The Americans and Russians both converged on a compound that housed allot of Hitlers experimental research.

Among these various gadgets was the HHO cell. The thing was probably on a few military cars and trucks, but during the heat of battle no one really popped the hood to admire the engine.

Since Hitlers fuel supply was dwindling, his scientists came up with the fuel cell.

I believe that there was a soldier that actually understood what he saw and brought the invention back to Australia.

The device is similar to the Joe Cell but only has one tube inside the other.

Supposedly, it uses the engines vacuum along with very low voltage to help pull apart the H20 molecule and make nitrogen hydroxide.

This process is suppose to be the missing link on processing the atomic O1 and sticking a N1 in there and creating fuel on demand.

Aaron mentioned copper in the air ionization thread. I believe copper intake tubes along with heat, helps this process to take place as the water inside the cell is heated.

Anyways, it is a good story whether it's true or not, it's anyones guess

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Nitrogen hydroxide is supposed to be created and burned in the engine with only a very small amount of fossil fuel used.
Well that is what is suppose to happen.

I don't think it is as complicated a process as many believe. It just requires a tad of vacuum, some copper, water and heat and a battery....

I have done my own experiments but failed to finish the project due to getting side tracked on the TS.

I did not like the by product of Chromium I was producing by the electrolysis in the cell.

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nitrogen hydroxide

Very interesting story and I wouldn't be surprised if true. A lot of
technology came from that area during that time.

The copper I mentioned was from something Tutanka posted in regards
to something can be done with a copper tube or something. I guess it
could be part of an ionization chamber.

The vacuum helps to pull apart of the gases in the cell and this has been
said quite a bit in the threads relating to nitrogen hydroxide. When the
"mixture" enters the combustion chamber, the vacuum there may help to
further dissociate the HHO.
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The copper I mentioned was from something Tutanka posted in regards
to something can be done with a copper tube or something. I guess it
could be part of an ionization chamber.

Most of the HH0 cells out there today have plastic tubes running to the intake so the gas mixture exits the magnetic field before entering the combustion chamber. I have always believed that the fracturing of the H2O with brute force was going in the wrong direction. EDIT BY Brute force I mean throwing more amps at the problem to create more HHO.

I believe the copper tubing may help keep the field around the mixture all the way to the chamber..
At least that is the theory I was subscribing to when I stopped working on my HHO project.

The current race to Hydrogen power made me realize that the atomic H was not important. It was the Atomic O.......

Cars running on Hydrogen would require total re-engineering, while everyone with half a brain knows that N20 and gasoline go great together with the ICE just they way it is...

The older engines were big enough to steal some of the HP to turn it into a vacuum pump-IEC...the newer less powerful computerized engines are useless for that...
And not many want to drive a 70 model car for various reasons.

Like I have said before, they are always one step ahead....

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How to Make Nitrogen Hydroxide

Here is a 3 page compilation of this thread. I condensed it into a couple
categories. It is short and sweet. It is INCOMPLETE. There are a few
things that need to be added that may or may not be apparent to get
a full working motor. But it will give the Nitrogen Hydroxide story and more.
How to Make Nitrogen Hydroxide
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disassociation

This goes a bit off topic of ionization so I post it here.

We all know the ICE is an extremely inefficient power plant.

However it is the only thing that millions of DIY's have to work with.

What Meyers did took a huge amount of special engineering to get his dune buggy to run on water.

The standard ICE will not run to long on Hydrogen and or water. It needs lubrication.

Hydrogen burns so clean that it will scour the cylinders from carbon.

Carbon is what lubes the ICE inside the combustion chamber. Not oil as one would think.

So a system that uses small amounts fossil fuels would be preferable for the average guy who wants to make his car get uber MPG.

In order to accomplish this task, one needs to come up with a system that uses the least amount of energy possible while keeping the entire unit as simple as possible.

Turbines sound great, but the average guy could not build one in his garage and convert it to run in his vehicle..

In nature, won't 2 molecules of water randomly disassociate into H30 and OH ?

Of course they recombine, but this special property of water could be exploited.

This means that perhaps there is another way to create and use the gasses needed by less complex means.

Resonance frequency could be used along with electromagnetism to stop recombination after the gasses leave the WFC and head towards the combustion chamber. This resonance frequency is determined by how far one puts the plates inside the cell.

Water vapor and N2 keep things cool and steam adds to help push the piston down. Small amounts of fossil fuel are burned in the mix for lubrication and starting the engine. The whole point would be to use the engine "as is" without modification, perhaps only changing the ignition timing and installing a plasma spark plug..



A simple cell consisting of 2 tubes will create the desired effect.

There are many unanswered questions about this system that I do not have the answer to, only more questions that I will have to put to the test. But for the moment I can only speculate since I too am waiting for warmer weather to make experimentation more enjoyable and rewarding. But the ionization thread has rekindled my interests on this project. I find it very exciting...

Could one exploit the magnetic moment of copper to polarize the N2 that is already in the ambient air and combine it with the fractured OH(hydroxide) creating nitrogen hydroxide? A shielded copper intake would absorb heat from the engine while working to keep the mixture inside the field and help keep the magnets around it from degaussing..

Would the magnets and copper see the mixture as a solid since it has water vapor in it and induce a reaction? Questions....questions...

The hydrogen would be the only thing that would be need to be ionized for extra power and the HHO cell already does that easily with low voltage. The nitrogen hydroxide would compliment the carbon fuel to increase joule output just like N20 does except have an added kick from hydrogen.

We need to come up with something that works with the current engineering that the ordinary person can use.

Anyway like I said earlier I am not a chemist so there are things I do not understand about the physics of it all....just thinking out loud here.....


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Murlin,

Check out these Turbojet engines people are making from car turbos.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...hydroxide.html

I'm sure the thrust or whatever can be used to run an electric generator.
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Now we are coming full circle. It may not be so important that we need to build the fuel to a certain explosive value, since we can ultimately use almost any fuel to run a turbine, if it is set up right. Hydrogen, nitrogen hydroxide or a combination of many gases formed together with common air. The only limitation would be power from the unit. In most cases a larger unit would suffice for a lower power output fuel to run whatever was hooked up to it. In my mind, a Tesla turbine may be the ideal turbine, just as Tesla himself suggested. Few moving parts and no RPM limitation, except for the bearings, are a real plus. I have one made from CD discs and it is amazing at the RPM range of this thing. Build one out of stainless, or better yet, ceramic, and you would have a super fuel efficient gas burning powerplant. ICE's were not built to burn a gaseous fuel. They were designed to burn liquid fuel, and not very efficiently, at that. I can see that we are progressing in the right direction for a change.Good Luck. Stealth
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Carbon is what lubes the ICE inside the combustion chamber. Not oil as one would think.
I see. I guess that is one reasone for why Meyer include it in his patent, see my post at:
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In my mind, a Tesla turbine may be the ideal turbine, just as Tesla himself suggested. Few moving parts and no RPM limitation, except for the bearings, are a real plus. I have one made from CD discs and it is amazing at the RPM range of this thing. Stealth

I agree the Tesla turbine is a fascinating engine, a few discs mounted to a drive shaft, blow some air or steam through them and it spins. How difficult can that be to make? Well once you try you will find out. Now to just make a model that spins is no problem, there are a bunch of working models that do just that. But the real trick is to make it spin efficiently.

When making a Tesla turbine one of the first things you will find out is that all of Tesla’s models were just prototypes. Thus there is precious little design information available on how to build one. He was still experimenting with the design when he lost his funding. So if you want to build his turbine you have to continue where he left off.

You need to determine what is the correct spacing for the between the discs, and this of course will depend on are you using air, steam, or some other gas. How many discs are needed? Are the bearings capable of handling the extreme high RPM? Most designs show only one nozzle feeding the turbine, but would multi-nozzles work better? What is the best way to seal the outer discs to prevent your working fluid from leaking past? Etc. etc.

Suddenly this simple little device is no longer so simple. However I have been working on the aforementioned problems and as such I have built a number of test turbines. As a result I am beginning to answer some of those questions. Now for all the machinist here that would like to try there hand at making a turbine, unlike some here, I am more then willing to share all the information that I have learned.

I have no grand illusions about trying to patent any new features and making a ton of money from them. Personally believe trying for a patent is a total waste of time and money and that they give little or no real protection. If a truly efficient design is developed making money from it should not be a problem, even if there are others doing the same thing.
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Check out these Turbojet engines people are making from car turbos.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...hydroxide.html

I'm sure the thrust or whatever can be used to run an electric generator.
Yes I saw those. I was already familiar with the Wankel rotary. The first turbine looks really impressive.

I was trying to assess if perhaps a system could be built by the ordinary DYI'er in his garage to use on the ICE just the way it is without any special mods.

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I see. I guess that is one reasone for why Meyer include it in his patent, see my post at:
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Probably so. The oil will burn and leave behind carbon grains in the cylinder.

Carbon is needed in the ICE. it acts like Cornmeal on a shuffleboard. Causing the puck to glide without friction. Since carbon withstands intense heat, it will lube the piston.

I am fairly certain the first device to utilize Nitrogen Hydroxide was a very simple device that complimented carbon based fuels.

There are literally billions of ICE power plants in world wide usage. It will take 50 years before we do not need them or carbon fuels anymore.

In the mean time a small-easyto-build unit would be very nice to have....if it could be done.

A unit where you would not have to replace all internal components with costly SS ones.
And also a unit that would not require one to tear down his engine and have ports drilled, heads milled to increase compression ratio's...ect...ect...especially one that would not require one to fill their trunk up with electronics.....

People have been murdered to suppress this invention....many farmers in Australia.
Probably a few Americans too. It would be nice to see the original unit reproduced.



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Mad Scientist, there is a club known as the Tesla turbine builders club. They have built lots of different designs and configurations with different tolerances. You can access their website and obtain information and stats on their builds. I have most of their information somewhere. If you can't get in their club, I am more than willing to share what I have also. Im not saying they have all the answers, but they are sharing information and coming up with some very inovative designs. Their latest build has a much improved efficiency over the the original design. Good Luck. Stealth
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I think something like this is inexpensive enough to play with.
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If the intake does need to be pressurized, that is probably the only real
serious modification that needs to be done...bracket on some kind of
pump/supercharger and I would put 100% of the exhaust to the WFC.

I disagree with the carbon necessity in an ICE.

Carbon is what wears out the engine, scratches bearing surfaces, etc...
In ICE, besides oil, liquid gasoline helps with some lubrication and not
the carbon. Race cars have incredible lubrication and they don't have
carbon buildup - the engines are stripped between races, rebuilt and there
is never time to build up any carbon.

Also, I have a proprietary additive that is methanol/xylene based and it
decarbonizes engines completely and prevents any further carbon buildup.
And, the lubrication is perfect.



In the past, gasoline was more necessary for the lubrication but with
the type of advances in synthetic oils, even propane fueled engines
(dry fuel) have no lubrication problems.

Some older engines that get decarbonized actually wrecks them but that
is because the rings or whatever are so worn down that the carbon buildup
is the only thing that is allowing for compression but the reason for most
of that wearing out of the metal was the grinding of the carbon into the
metal as an abrasive.

Vacclaisocryptene "QX" + Molybdenum Disulfide "Moly" Engine Oil Additive is the world's best oil additive. There are
always ceramics and some ceramic technology can allow an an engine to
run with zero oil - they've done it but as far as lubrication - the
qx moly has never been beat to this day and its been around for about
75 years.

It seems with water fuel that if the process is done so that h2o does
forms as a combustion by product (like all of it - straight h and o), then
that will wash away the lubrication, etc... and is bad for it.

But, if the nitrogen is destabalized enough through the air processor,
it seems that it will soak up an electrons after combustion to prevent
oxygen from bonding to hydrogen so that water is not formed. That is
a pretty profound concept that Tutanka pointed out I think. But he did
say that there is about the same water moisture made as there is with
gasoline so no problems.
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You can run any ICE on propane or other gases, if pressurized. Fork lifts and other ICE motors run on propane run cleaner,longer, and with far fewer oil changes. When running a gas through an ICE, it has no warm up period, no excessive carbon or other non burned fuel particles to blacken and contaminate the oil. Burning hydrogen and or nitrogen hydroxide can lead to problems. Mostly pistons and or cylinder walls become brittle burning hydrogen. This has been a problem down through the years, that amybe Stanley Meyers overcame. Maybe by adding the nitrogen, it somehow cushions or lubricates the piston-cylinder from becoming brittle. This is why most aircraft and helicopter engines are turbine. Also turbines can burn any combustable fuel, Liquid and gas. These generators are chinese copies of Briggs and Stratton engines. They have overhead valves and electronic ignition. Water or other liquid may have to be used in the combustion process if the components are not lubricated enough to withstand the hydrogen-nitrogen burn. Also you would probably have to inject straight into the intake.Good Luck. Stealth
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I disagree with the carbon necessity in an ICE.

Carbon is what wears out the engine, scratches bearing surfaces, etc...
In ICE, besides oil, liquid gasoline helps with some lubrication and not
the carbon. Race cars have incredible lubrication and they don't have
carbon buildup - the engines are stripped between races, rebuilt and there
is never time to build up any carbon.
I totally agree about excess carbon.

I refer back to my example of shuffleboard. Take a thin layer of cornmeal and the puck glides effortlessly down the lane. Pour an inch on the floor and you are getting nowhere fast, same goes with pouring a quart of oil on the floor...

The only place the carbon lubes is friction point where the piston contacts the cylinder wall. The excess is not desirable and must be removed from the oil and...And if it builds up to the point it raises compression and causes the piston to tighten up in the cylinder then that is not good either. there is a difference between a few grains of graphite dust and a thick hard coating.

Excess gasoline(raw fuel) cuts the rings right out of an ICE.....(a overly rich running motor will wear out just as fast as a lean, hot running motor)

I have an Inline Ford 6 cylinder engine I bought from the wrecking yard for my HHO experiments. Except I haven't worked on it in a while, but it is still mounted on its stand with a 20kw genny hooked up to it.... still waiting on me....

The intake and exhaust are on the same side of the engine and it will make it real easy to tap into the exhaust gasses....

I started out with the standard Nitrogen Hydroxide cell about 2 feet long with 4" 316 ss outer and an inner tube with 10mm clearance....

There was so much disinformation out there about all of this though, it became confusing and frustrating.

But I came to the same conclusion about the water needing to be conditioned first and not needing any salt or baking soda...way too much electrolysis....too much Chromium for me to be considered safe....But conditioning of the water and steel will keep that down to a bare minimum once the initial break in is done...

You and several others here have really done their homework on all this and my hats off to every one researching and working on this technology....

Thank you all for giving us so much more to think about and to do...

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I have an Inline Ford 6 cylinder engine I bought from the wrecking yard for my HHO experiments. Except I haven't worked on it in a while, but it is still mounted on its stand with a 20kw genny hooked up to it.... still waiting on me....
That would be cool! Any pics?
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That would be cool! Any pics?
Ya I could take some pics of it . I didn't get it all hooked up it is just the motor on a stand with an ST 20k generator head mounted on the same stand. The cell is built, but all our testing was done with a couple smaller cells on a pickup that was already running. I still have some work to do getting the large generator running...

We failed to get the O2 sensor working with the EFI properly and so we pulled the units out of the truck and benched the project to think on it while we worked on the TS.

I kind of jump around from project to project....

I will take some pic's so you guys will know I am for real

Something tells me that I might have better chance for success now with all this new information available to me...


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Old 02-04-2010, 07:14 PM
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how cheap?

How much could one expect to pay for a 4-6 cyclinder engine?
I guess it depends on the year?
Why did you go with an ECU engine and not an older mechanical one?

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Ya I could take some pics of it . I didn't get it all hooked up it is just the motor on a stand with an ST 20k generator head mounted on the same stand. The cell is built, but all our testing was done with a couple smaller cells on a pickup that was already running. I still have some work to do getting the large generator running...

We failed to get the O2 sensor working with the EFI properly and so we pulled the units out of the truck and benched the project to think on it while we worked on the TS.

I kind of jump around from project to project....

I will take some pic's so you guys will know I am for real

Something tells me that I might have better chance for success now with all this new information available to me...


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Old 02-04-2010, 07:36 PM
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You can get junked marine engines pretty cheap, and rebuild them, they are a good choice for a "test stand" motor, imo.

The advantages of marine Inboard or Inboard/Outboard engines stripped of the "outdrive unit" are that they have no computer, and mostly still use carbs (at least up to a few years ago last time i priced them seriously). They are most commonly seen in straight 4's or 6's; Chevy or Ford blocks are most common for the ICE varieties, and Volvo for the Diesels.

In fact there is a notorious old ICE engine called the "Atomic Four" which may be nearly ideal... That used to be common as standard gear on older sailboats, and have often been ripped out and replaced by Diesels, so they can be gotten cheap (and parts for them are still widely available). Most of those even have points ignitions lol (although there were kits to convert them to Electronic).

Many marine engines (including the Atomic 4's) will also have "open loop" outer cooling jackets so you don't need a radiator, just a garden hose to cool them without much fuss.
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:40 PM
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While any ICE engine will do, you could not get a cheaper motor than a lawnmower engine. You can buy an old lawn tractor cheap. You will also get a transmission and rearend. If you need to hook up a generator or other unit the transmission and or rearend will come in handy for reduction or increasing RPM. Buy one with a recoil start and you don't even need a battery. Or, buy a small gas generator and convert it. You already have everything you need for electric generation. Good Luck.. Stealth
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:19 AM
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How much could one expect to pay for a 4-6 cylinder engine?
I guess it depends on the year?
Why did you go with an ECU engine and not an older mechanical one?
300 bucks because it was just what they had on hand big enough to run that generator. I also have diesel 4 cylinder that was used to pump water I was going to put on an axle to make a portable power plant.

I have the HHO cell in a box somewhere I will have to locate it to get a pic of it.

The only thing about using a magneto engine it is a pain to move the timing you have to re key the flywheel.

I have just to twist on the distributor there on that Ford and put it where I want it

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