Redox Signaling Molecules

[Aaron]

Asea

Hello do you have more information About these spanish Scientist thank you

What Spanish scientist?

Any references will be here: http://index.teamasea.com

[Heartdrake]

spanish Scientist

Hello Aaron thank you for you answer, I'm personally using Asea it's about 2 months and I' m noticing many advantage I stay actually at 2x2 0z ( IBD with enthesite i.e aching, HBP Middle ). I started to reccomend often Asea to people with different Results mainly Very good but not for all. I've encountered Asea it's About Four Years, studing healthy from bioelectrical viewpoint. I'm using SCENAR device, and i appreciate Jerry tennant , Healing is a voltage, so I ' m used to' think to health from bioelectrical (basically )viewpoint, and Sit'ko work. For that I Was interested by an old message
Originally Posted by ashtweth
Hi ALL

Wonder how ORMUS differs from this...
That is a good question. There is in Spain a scientist that 5 years ago made an breakthrought discovery (or re-discovery) of a theory similar to yours. He said that the body is an electrical entity and he was able to calculate the 'metabolic equations' and with those equations he was able to know what disease you could have. He said that the body is governed by mathematical functions and some chemical substances can alter that equilibrium.

He sold some 'powders' that he called 'the factors'. Following a low carbohydrate diet with those powders he show that he was able to reverse diabetes, and a different bones problems. Of course, he was suppresed by the pharma industry.
One of the powders is Glycine and the other is L-Aspartic Acid. I know that he discovered up to 12 factors (I don't know the name of the others). and maybe much more. But I think he is working in private and almost no new are avaiable to the public.

Aaron, what you know about the antioxidant effect of radiations? I have read that living organism submerged in a scalar field can be engineered so disease or aging can be accelerated or reversed.

There was also a scientist that worked in Manhattan project that also discovered the equations of the body. He developed some kind of drops to restore the balance of the body. thank you

[evilbaga]

Im thinking of getting some of this stuff.

Question:
If I take antioxidants, say a powerful one - like Patrick Flanagan's Microhydrin/Megahydrate - will it 'neutralize' the Asea?

I mean, if the RS molecules are needed to activate the antioxidants - then it should 'use up' the Asea, right?

[Aaron]

ASEA + Microhydrin

Im thinking of getting some of this stuff.

Question:
If I take antioxidants, say a powerful one - like Patrick Flanagan's Microhydrin/Megahydrate - will it 'neutralize' the Asea?

I mean, if the RS molecules are needed to activate the antioxidants - then it should 'use up' the Asea, right?

It won't neutralize ASEA... I used to take microhydrin myself - really good product. Don't take them together.

Take ASEA first on an empty stomach and then take the microhydrin about 10 minutes after... it will allow you to get even more benefit from the microhydrin.

You can get the ASEA here: http://index.teamasea.com

[evilbaga]

Another question

I understand the rationale for taking Asea on a empty stomach, and if it absorbs quickly - then 10 minutes is sufficient?

How about after a meal? How long to wait?
My meal patterns can be pretty erratic.

Lastly, if the wait after a meal is not just 10 minutes... does it make sense to take a 4 oz dose once in the morning rather than 2 2oz doses a day? Is much/any efficiency of the Asea lost that way?

[Aaron]

Asea

I understand the rationale for taking Asea on a empty stomach, and if it absorbs quickly - then 10 minutes is sufficient?

How about after a meal? How long to wait?
My meal patterns can be pretty erratic.

Lastly, if the wait after a meal is not just 10 minutes... does it make sense to take a 4 oz dose once in the morning rather than 2 2oz doses a day? Is much/any efficiency of the Asea lost that way?

10 minutes is definitely ok after taking ASEA on an empty stomach.

After a meal, you have to wait about an hour before the stomach is empty enough to take ASEA.

2 X 2oz servings in a day is better than 4oz.

[evilbaga]

Mercury/Amalgam fillings

So,
I read here that some people swish it around their mouths (for 30 seconds to 2 minutes) to get the mucous membranes to absorb some before swallowing it.
Also, the product literature says do not drink it out of metal.

Does that imply people with metallic fillings in their teeth shouldn't swish it around, and instead directly swallow? How fast is the effect of metal on Asea?
(I ask because I got 2 fillings, and my mother has 7 - and yes, we know they are bad).

[Aaron]

metal and ASEA

So,
I read here that some people swish it around their mouths (for 30 seconds to 2 minutes) to get the mucous membranes to absorb some before swallowing it.
Also, the product literature says do not drink it out of metal.

Does that imply people with metallic fillings in their teeth shouldn't swish it around, and instead directly swallow? How fast is the effect of metal on Asea?
(I ask because I got 2 fillings, and my mother has 7 - and yes, we know they are bad).

Metal reacts with the stabilized molecules and causes a "chain reaction" where it will revert back to salt water. It can take up to 30 minutes or so - you can still swish it around but for absorption, taking 2 oz on an empty stomach has already been established to be a good serving, which accounts for some being neutralized in the stomach acids.

[evilbaga]

Just updating:

Bought some off of eBay (trying it out before signing up), about 5 weeks ago.

Im on my fifth bottle. Problem is, I started some other supplements at the same time - not sure what is affecting what.

Overall though - I feel ASEA is doing nothing.
I take 2 oz on waking up - so I know its an empty stomach. And 2 more, when Im, usually, sure its been 1+ hrs after any food.

Spraying it in my eyes really makes my eyes feel good is the only solid thing I can attribute to it.

I seem to be losing a little weight but am unsure if its the ASEA that is doing that.

I started my mother on it as well - about 2.5 weeks ago. Shes a better case study as she doesn't take many supplements - so far she feels nothing, except possibly requiring less sleep.

As we both have a 3 month supply - we will stick to it and hope something happens.

[Aaron]

ASEA Redox Signaling Molecules

Just updating:

Bought some off of eBay (trying it out before signing up), about 5 weeks ago.

Im on my fifth bottle. Problem is, I started some other supplements at the same time - not sure what is affecting what.

Overall though - I feel ASEA is doing nothing.
I take 2 oz on waking up - so I know its an empty stomach. And 2 more, when Im, usually, sure its been 1+ hrs after any food.

Spraying it in my eyes really makes my eyes feel good is the only solid thing I can attribute to it.

I seem to be losing a little weight but am unsure if its the ASEA that is doing that.

I started my mother on it as well - about 2.5 weeks ago. Shes a better case study as she doesn't take many supplements - so far she feels nothing, except possibly requiring less sleep.

As we both have a 3 month supply - we will stick to it and hope something happens.

90 days is a good test for any supplement so you're all set.

If you were able to get your glutathione levels measured, you should be able to find these are elevated substantially at 3 months - SOD and catalayse enzymes as well.

The ASEA causes the release of belly fat into the blood stream to be used as energy - it is more energy dense than sugar/carbs or protein. This is what the Human Performance Laboratory in their double blind cross over placebo study showed. Saltwater did nothing but ASEA changed so many metabolic markers that it blew them away - never saw anything like it. This is what has enabled professional triathletes to take an entire HOUR off their time, when many struggle to reduce their times by a few minutes.

This video has the researchers giving the breakdown of what they witnessed in this study at the Human Performance Laboratory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT-e8pLgHLI

Requiring less sleep is reported by many people and I've experienced it myself still to this day after several years of daily use.

[evilbaga]

Update time. Im down to ~ 4 an a half bottles.

Here goes:
Initially, about 10 days before I started ASEA I had started another supplement. To that I hyperresponded with increased stamina and energy.

So, I could not attribute any changes to ASEA proper. I ran out of that supplement about 2 weeks ago. However, in the meantime I had started another rather experimental substance.

Currently,
I find that my exercise routine is going great in the sense that it doesn't tire me out like it did, and I can push out a few more reps. This is great - *if* its the ASEA.

Unfortunately, the new substance I am taking is supposed to affect exactly that - so I cant be sure its ASEA, and given the cost, hope it isnt the ASEA.


My mother is a better test case - and she reports no major changes, being on ASEA for about a month.


Overall, I am unclear if ASEA is worth it. If it turns out ASEA is responsible for my increased exercise endurance - it will probably be worth the high price tag - unfortunately my gut tells me it just aint so (not to mention my mother's experience).

Will have to test more. May get another 3 cases sometime next year for a proper self test.

FWIW, will update when Im out of ASEA in about a month.

[evilbaga]

Well,
Im almost finished.

I haven't felt any effects that I attribute to it that are worthwhile.

My mom says it may have helped her joints a bit, but certainly not enough to justify the pricetag.

Only definite thing is it feels good sprayed into the eyes.

Of course, if after stopping I find something deteriorating in me or my mom - then I will post here.

Further, I may test it again, and/or I may test Renu 28 ... if I do, Ill post here.

I had high hopes for this product (helps an elbow regenerate!) but it just didn't measure up to the cost.