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Old 11-03-2011, 05:28 AM
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Dr Stiffler SEC Replications?

I've been watching Dr. Stiffler's work for about a year, and correct me if I'm wrong, but his demonstrations are getting simpler, and more convincing.

Unfortunately, I do not have signal generators and spectrum analyzers, I'm in Canada... so there are lot of obstacles between me and trying to replicate his effect.

I will say this...

I'm not entirely stupid, I realize the guy could have a 4 ft. Tesla/Slayer type coil behind his back the entire time and thus create the effect for video... but...

Something tells me it's for real. He just doesn't seem to be a phony type of individual, at all. And he's not really trying to market much, beyond offering a board, for a reasonable price.

Has anyone publicly shown to have replicated this?
Has he ever published his circuit.

Anyhow, I find his work to be pretty darn interesting, and I don't know, of course... but I think he seems very genuine.

So having said that, please let's keep this to an informational thread, an actual list of current or past replication attempts strictly based on Ronald's work. I would love to see some other stuff. Please no flames. Thanks.
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I have replicated some effects of his with a signal generator and fft. You don't need either of these. You can use an high frequency sine wave oscillator and an rf volt meter, cheaper than a scope and sig gen. Better still if your in the US you can buy an exciter circuit from him. Here is my YouTube channel which I have posted my progress so far;
rau369's Channel - YouTube

You could also view discussion which the doc participates in at:
Exploring Dr Stiffler's Spatial Energy Coherence and Spatial Resonance effects. - Heretical Builders

I can vouch that there is definitely something worth a further look here.

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Energy Conversion by Articulated Transfer

Now for me there are other things I would choose to build, however this one is the only one of the small pulsed coil group that actually caught my eye. I am not endorsing it but at a "quick glance" which is all I gave it, it may have potential to look into further. My interests lie in the Tesla transmitter and cold fusion.

from quick observation it appears he is running a steady DC equivalent of approximately 50 volts n change and I do not recognize the bulb and with no specs I have have no idea what kind of current it would draw. Anyway if guesses are close enough he appears to be getting an addictional 4 watts roughly. The proper way to measure the output would be for him to convert to DC then use a load resistor bank not a light bulb.

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@ Raui and All:
The Doc has also mentioned that there is a knock off of his board circuit being made in China, (I believe it was...)
It would also be interesting to know about that circuit, if still available. As they seam to be able to produce things cheaper than one can even buy the parts to make them. And they probably ship world wide.
So, if anybody hears anything related to a circuit like that, please let us know.
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Great timing

I've been looking at the PSEC unit and, after gaining quite the bunch of experience in the past year or so, am properly looking at tuned resonance rather than 'mere' field output.
So, I decided to check the thread on OU:
Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler
It's going to be a long read....but on Page 2 there can be seen an early circuit. I decided on an approach - emulate/simulate the circuit type and as I read along, to hone/change/modify and incorporate own knowledge to hopefully see PSEC similarities at some point in the future.
To take an early SEC circuit and alter it to look like the current design (which I believe is the SEC 18X) on DR. Stiffler's website:
http://67.76.235.52/SEC18_1.htm
It's not reverse engineering, it's applying what I know now, to simulate the Doc's results.
It'll also make me fix my poor old oscilloscope !

Here's the current build, begun last night. It's that shown circuit, mixed with the top of board components shown on Ron's website. Already, I now know my inductors have to be approx 22uH, so they'll have to change.
Might get somewhere, might get nowhere...but the trying and the experimenting gives experiential knowledge.

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Thank-you, all of you for adding to this thread.
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Might get somewhere, might get nowhere...but the trying and the experimenting gives experiential knowledge.
Couldn't agree more. Been following your work, you've really progressed in the last 12 months. In fact, between you and The Magneticitist... I am amazed at what you guys can make with "junk" and garbage, and i mean that in a positive way, a recycling way... you guys both churn out great stuff and always try to incorporate "junk", and... it works! Amazing in itself, really, in this throw away society. Good on ya.
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Great timing

I've been looking at the PSEC
Keep a close eye on the spectrum analyzer.
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Am looking at this project as a forwarding, but yeah, everything is from salvaged stuff from the roadside or wherever.
Not much to report for today, the circuit needs a lot of changes before i'm happy, mostly the inductance values. Unfortunately/fortunately the decent inductors have gone on a 6 LED oscillator project powered by just water (vid on YouTube just uploaded).
So the hunt is on for some more...includes though a decent enough RCA boombox to 'look into' that I re-found yesterday.

Ya know, an SMD version of something like this may be possible down the way. We saw Slayer and others develop the inductor exciter and Ron's circuits could feasibly scale. I'm unqualified to suggest that, but do know that inductors are a new experience here, that challenge hand wound coils for some circumstances. Though, they have tolerance levels of 10% or 20%, which is really poor for this project. Can see there being much mixing and matching and then some L1 and L2 coil winding anyway !

-- UPDATE --
See, talking of syncronity lol, after some time away from postings (it seems) jonnydavro has perhaps helped us out immensely !
Check out his new vid:
SEC Exciter with large rf field - YouTube
It's a Dr. Stiffler circuit, with 22uH inductor but varied L1. The lighting of the neon all the way along the L3 is something that could certainly be useful in many projects...so i'm changing to a replication of Jonny's circuit !
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RE: Stiffler's effect with an inexpensive module?

Opinions:

Do you think one could use this inexpensive signal generator module to (attempt) to produce Dr. Stiffler's effect instead of an expensive signal generator?

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The lighting of the neon all the way along the L3 is something that could certainly be useful in many projects...so i'm changing to a replication of Jonny's circuit !
It does look a little more robust than the Slayer circuit, doesn't it.
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Frequency wise that instrument is fine however at 1V peak to peak I have some trouble measuring srf so if you used that circuit you'd have to have it switch a transistor which can handle say at minimum 10v but the higher the better and fast frequency. Ideally you'd want to get a 12v signal transistor which can switch at up to 20MHz, because your using the diy rf voltmeter you will have trouble measuring at low voltages so maybe even two batteries (9V or something so that you end up with an 18v signal). Here's a very rough circuit of what you'd want;


You don't need high current capabilities so I'm sure you'd be able to find an appropriate signal transistor.

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The TIP series would suit many applications for higher voltages, TIP120 is a fave of mine being as I don't have any of the ususal 3055's that folks use.

However......
If we are heading toward large spacial fields at maximum energy usage from a power supply (or no power supply for PSEC).
Then maybe there are other routes.
All is about resonance, coil and component matching, wave understandings and fun
In that light, I followed Jonny's circuit and had somewhat of an epiphany regarding shapings and tunings. Mostly, because my oscilloscope is dead and there's zero budget.
The L1 and the L2 must get along perfectly, but some preliminary results can be gained from 'rough' matching. Build something that works and then improve it. It shouldn't rely on Slayer's fine circuit or on the Dr.'s as a total replication, but offer research study by following the Dr.'s route.
Doing things that way, may bring a better personal understanding of the effects and performance parameters.
So, will a flash camera type trigger coil fire from the induction of a radial inductor ?
Can we avoid large pieces of aluminium foil and still have a usable wireless field ?
The eventual aim is to work toward a true replication, but to understand the circuit when getting there.

I put several such ideas together and have had great success.
It's a trigger coil, SEC, self design that's in development.
Component list is, so far:
4kV trigger coil, 681 capacitor, 1M resistor, KN2222A transistor, 20uH radial inductor, ferrite piece from AM radio to use the emulated L3 as a tunable inductor. An LED is across the Emitter and Base, to show the field strength setup and protect the transistor.
The pic attached shows it running at just 4.3V and it's able to light neons.
The L3 works well and actually doesn't need the ferrite rod to run, but using it brings a lot better tuning and the ability for the neon to light.
I need to work on better capacitance matching so am looking for especially Slayer's connections to a radio tuner variable capacitor.
The pic shows the circuit, the lit neon and 2 remote 'Penny' type blocking oscillators (Lidmotor's circuit) running wirelessly.




Edit - got it: http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2692/varcap.jpg
The var cap modification didn't seem to change things when added to the power input, but was worth a try.
Replacing the trigger transformer with a coil is the next step.
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Guys we are half way through a walk through and tribute to DR Stiffler with the PSEC, thanks to Ben we now have it under way

I can tell you it works, check this out, we are in the middle of making a tunable cap and inductor board for it , the circuit was not hooked up correctly, we dropped the board on the ground cleaning up, some contact was made and an LED came on , NO POWER INPUT.

Andrew and i nearly %$#$% our selves, i should of taken a photo, did you really think the Doc was not telling the truth?

TRUE STORY, its me .

Here is another one to assure you it works
PSEC 4 of many. - YouTube

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Velly velly interwesting!

I have a couple q's.

First when we talk about a lattice, we are talking about the equivalent circuit o maybe I should say the expanded or complete circuit of the coil?

Next 1.094 is specific to these particular coils and that would change with the diameter in combination with wire thickness I presume?

Next is there something unique about the 13mghz area?


Finally can this work with any coil at any freq?


Say 150khz or 250mhz?

This is frankly fascinating and I am trying to establish some rules of thumb from your videos.
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I can tell you it works, check this out, we are in the middle of making a tunable cap and inductor board for it , the circuit was not hooked up correctly, we dropped the board on the ground cleaning up, some contact was made and an LED came on , NO POWER INPUT.

Andrew and i nearly %$#$% our selves, i should of taken a photo, did you really think the Doc was not telling the truth?

TRUE STORY, its me .

Great news Ash. I've been watching his videos for a year, and despite there being a multitude of ways to fake the demo, the guy just never struck me as BS'er... he's just way too into it, ya know? People generally don't get that involved in their frauds, so to speak. Nice to hear this.
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Velly velly interwesting!

I have a couple q's.

First when we talk about a lattice, we are talking about the equivalent circuit o maybe I should say the expanded or complete circuit of the coil?

Next 1.094 is specific to these particular coils and that would change with the diameter in combination with wire thickness I presume?

Next is there something unique about the 13mghz area?


Finally can this work with any coil at any freq?


Say 150khz or 250mhz?

This is frankly fascinating and I am trying to establish some rules of thumb from your videos.
I can't quite tell you what the lattice is but I can answer your other questions.

When you ring a coil normally you will get a peak at f0 (where f0 is the frequency) 2f0, 3f0, 4f0 etc. When the coil is excited by an exciter you get peaks every 1.094MHz which is very bizzare because conventionally you should only get peaks at multiples of f0 (including subharmonics 0.5f0 for example). The 1.094 will not change, it is a sort of signature of spatial energy coherence rather than the properties of the coil.

It can work for any sized coil and therefore any frequency. However the Doc has several times urged replicators away from the larger coils, he says smaller coils are much more efficient. Check out this discussion;
Exploring Dr Stiffler's Spatial Energy Coherence and Spatial Resonance effects. - Heretical Builders

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Frequency wise that instrument is fine however at 1V peak to peak I have some trouble measuring srf so if you used that circuit you'd have to have it switch a transistor which can handle say at minimum 10v but the higher the better and fast frequency. Ideally you'd want to get a 12v signal transistor which can switch at up to 20MHz, because your using the diy rf voltmeter you will have trouble measuring at low voltages so maybe even two batteries (9V or something so that you end up with an 18v signal). Here's a very rough circuit of what you'd want;


You don't need high current capabilities so I'm sure you'd be able to find an appropriate signal transistor.

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In choosing the transistor, if using a signal generator that has 1v peak to peak, do you need a transistor with an emitter-base voltage rating of just one volt? Sorry for my ignorance, and thanks for all the help.

The MAX 038 Function Generator chip goes up to 20 MHZ and Vp-p is 2V.
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In choosing the transistor, if using a signal generator that has 1v peak to peak, do you need a transistor with an emitter-base voltage rating of just one volt? Sorry for my ignorance, and thanks for all the help.

The MAX 038 Function Generator chip goes up to 20 MHZ and Vp-p is 2V.
You'll want a transistor with a lower emitter-base voltage of under 1V as what is given is usually the minimum voltage for the transistor to work. Most signal transistors will be fine. 2N2222 should work okay but remember to put a resistor in there after the transistor as to keep the current down.

Maybe that sig gen would be better then, 20MHz is all my sig gen does and since your aiming for a 13.8MHz srf I'm sure it will be fine.

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Really, for this replication, don't we need someone to post a pic of the back of the 18X board ?
Then the 1000uF 50V cap gets added, and the other changes are implemented. Hey presto, some mind numbingly frustrating tuning later, someone posts a runner.
If so, then Dr. Stiffler would have a validation that discounts many peoples negative presumptions about his location.

On topic, but off on thoughts here - if I get something PSEC'ing nicely, i'd like to calibrate and ramp up the 60kHz signal from Fort Collins, CO. It's the source of the atomic clock signals and, of course, Colorado is where Tesla conducted his famous 1898 experiments.
I view that as the modern day Wardenclyffe (in fact, take out the audio from any radio signal and what you have is broadcast energy).
Wireless energy transmission being amplified and used, from the very part of the country where he conducted those wireless experiments. That signal is countrywide, so, many more people could do the same as replications.
Geeky as anything but what a project !
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I can't quite tell you what the lattice is but I can answer your other questions.

When you ring a coil normally you will get a peak at f0 (where f0 is the frequency) 2f0, 3f0, 4f0 etc. When the coil is excited by an exciter you get peaks every 1.094MHz which is very bizzare because conventionally you should only get peaks at multiples of f0 (including subharmonics 0.5f0 for example). The 1.094 will not change, it is a sort of signature of spatial energy coherence rather than the properties of the coil.

It can work for any sized coil and therefore any frequency. However the Doc has several times urged replicators away from the larger coils, he says smaller coils are much more efficient. Check out this discussion;
Exploring Dr Stiffler's Spatial Energy Coherence and Spatial Resonance effects. - Heretical Builders

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thanks,

very interesting...

So then who thought up the term spatial energy coherence and what is the theory behind it? I presume there must be a write up from some one somewhere? Also I was perusing and someone mentioned nuclear decay? Yes the term lattice is also very important, and even more so now that we know the 1.094 is not winding dependent.
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It hasnt even been 24 hours and another cosmic cop who doesnt get it.

you could also have had respect and emailed me privately but you like the other person chose not to do so, why not practice what you preach and you both really need to learn about the fair use policies that I in fact did comply with.

nuff said, I will edit this in the future based on your edits, or not. your choice. UNtil then this will stay up and people can take notice of the hypocrisy.

yes how about a little respect?
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trying to work on the PSEC here for ..sake.
Too much bickering, the PSEC deserves more so does the doc and YOU guys.

not blaming any one OK... but

1) The doc should be allowed to post here -can we change this why not?
2) People should work TOGETHER AND with the doc
3) Stop fighting against each other no excuse

is that to much to ask..Aaron, can you help? , can we get the doc back?
shesh man, people should give each other a chance to COME AROUND, if there are any problems, who else cares?

times are tough , cant we ALL yes good and bad see past the BS for at least once in our lives?Thanks guys, just a thought, didnt know the Doc was banned here.

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I agree with Inquorate, please do not copy/paste Ronald's copyrighted texts, afterall, if he ever reads this thread, it'd be nice to be professional and courteous towards his efforts. Please remove it, if you are still able to edit?

Thanks,
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Could you post a link to (any info/vids) re: your DIY RF Voltmeter that raui mentioned to me in a PM? Thanks.
I'm currently uploading a video of the circuit and how it works compared to my oscilloscope. It worked out to be within 0.2MHz of my oscilloscope, not bad at all. Check out my channel sometime in the next hour or so and it should be done.

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trying to work on the PSEC here for ..sake.
Too much bickering, the PSEC deserves more so does the doc and YOU guys.

not blaming any one OK... but

1) The doc should be allowed to post here -can we change this why not?
2) People should work TOGETHER AND with the doc
3) Stop fighting against each other no excuse

is that to much to ask..Aaron, can you help? , can we get the doc back?
shesh man, people should give each other a chance to COME AROUND, if there are any problems, who else cares?

times are tough , cant we ALL yes good and bad see past the BS for at least once in our lives?Thanks guys, just a thought, didnt know the Doc was banned here.

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I agree, we're all grown-ups here are we not?

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first I am not upset, this is purely academic and an apology is not necessary, secondly I identified a character trait that was unequivocally demonstrated which is distinctly different than "name calling", and finally its unfortunate that my remarks on the matter in that post are considered "not adding input" and that anyone would fault me for what in their "opinion" they consider "not adding input", since it is after all discretionary. It in fact should be considered input and if its not, well its not my loss.

you dont create a peaceful thread by taking yet another dump in my back yard and expect me not to call foul ball.

as a side note I was not aware stiffler was banned either and frankly expected an answer from him directly on my last post on the matter that has gone unanswered.

now back to your regularly scheduled psec channel.
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I'm currently uploading a video of the circuit and how it works compared to my oscilloscope. It worked out to be within 0.2MHz of my oscilloscope, not bad at all. Check out my channel sometime in the next hour or so and it should be done.



I agree, we're all grown-ups here are we not?

Raui
Kool I ll check it out....
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:25 AM
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I'll keep my eyes on your channel too Raui
Would have checked before now, but have been uploading a progress vid too, comp gets slow if I open too much.

Things are looking better over here, after I really took a good look at what Dr. Stiffler was doing in his PSEC videos. I don't have the test equipment and so, unfortunately, have had to go down a different route.
It revolves around using phenomenon that I know from 'traditional' Slayer exciter builds.
A better version of an actual PSEC looking (and seemingly partially performing) device has been built. Wiring has been guessed at...so no real point in a circuit diagram, unless folks like what they see at this point.
It uses the HV output from the unit I showed in the previous page, so giving a source of known energy with which to work.
Voltage used is down to less than 3V, so the next stage is to bring the seen effects from a single AA.

Here's the video:
SEC replication progress - YouTube

Since the start of the upload, it has been found that the reason for some of the initial slow startup of the device has been because of the 1000uF cap charging ! All of that side looks to be fine in retrospect.
15 LED's are now on the 'power meter' seen on the video and it gives a great idea of what sort of energy levels are flying around
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:51 AM
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I have/had no idea why Dr. Stiffler is banned from this forum, but judging by some of the flames I have read in another forum, I can speculate he got annoyed... and I only hoped this thread would stay healthy. I agree with Ashweth, let's just drop it, and ultimately: I apologize for being judgmental or disrespectful if that's how it was perceived. I am excited to see a few make efforts and see some success, and hope to learn more about the PSEC.
Dr Stiffler is not banned, he moved to another Forum, where he may think to be more save from the Copycats, what try to sell similar Things as he work on or whatever, more Partipation at his Work.
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