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Old 10-12-2012, 03:21 PM
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:08 PM
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takes patience to wind these coils

finally got the parts for the dual power rail
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:31 AM
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Ice will not conduct electricity(normally) it will run along its surface, I have seen this first hand using high voltage.
What is this field around the coil, I think its electric and here's why as the ice melted you could see the field sliced through the ice in layers, it had to cut the ice to reach the coil.
So we can use ice to separate the coil from its electric field, that means we can channel the field, if we can get the coil geometry right we should be able to channel the electric field into our conductor the electric field should act just like electricity taking the path of least resistance.


We should be able to catch the electric field without pulsing.
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:52 AM
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Something else that I have been thinking, if a dielectric material will do the same, say a resin like they use to pot high voltage transformer's.

Although the ice seemed to make the magnetic field stronger, maybe because it was concentrating the fields, not sure.

There's alot that needs to be done, I hope to have the coils wound today it gets real slow at the end I have to wind about three winds then glue them and wait for the glue to dry.
I have a idea how to speed up the process, Im going to try it and see.

I will keep this thread updated.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:14 PM
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Haste makes waste sometimes, Im afraid I messed up the trumpet coil, I'll know more after it drys.
I may try a heavier wire, a heavier wire should have more surface area and maybe it wont jump the winds so easily.

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Old 10-14-2012, 11:36 AM
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I have been thinking about this for a long time, it all came into place this mourning.
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beautiful work

good to read you too Dave

a very interesting concept ......
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Old 10-16-2012, 03:39 PM
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I think I finally figured out how to wind these after breaking a couple of forms

Reminds me of a tornado
One more to go
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:32 PM
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beautiful looking coils

don't blow up the planet
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:12 PM
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Might create a low pressure point but thats about it

Ive been building the dual rail and studying it as well, the gif I made explains it well.

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Old 10-16-2012, 10:53 PM
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This ones a little easier to understand
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Old 10-17-2012, 03:54 AM
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Hi Dave,
Nice looking coil. The shape very much reminds me of an old pic I saw just a few days back. I think the caption read (Tesla's telluric current oscillator).
I will look more and post a link if you have interest.
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PS In this mechanical amplifier video by Jim Murry @ about 11:00 you can see the Tesla device.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:13 PM
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Hey guys been trying to stay on the experiments rather than the computer, I got the coils built, setting up to play with them a bit before putting them in ice.

I also have an idea and am working on it as well, Im taking welding rods cleaning them up well then winding them with fiberglass strands from the fiberglass mat this should make a very good dielectric then Im winding them with twenty four guage magnet wire these will be bundled to make cores, Im hoping the copper wire in the core will collect eddy currents.

I'll post pics.

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Edit: If anyone has heard of anyone trying this approach give a shout. Thanks
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Old 10-21-2012, 04:11 PM
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Here's the coils, finally got them wound

glass wound on welding rod

with wire, now about 11 more

here's a pic of the winding machine built out of an old electric wheelchair, I got a foot control from a sewing machine works great.
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:52 PM
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Old 10-27-2012, 12:29 PM
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We looked at Birkland currents awhile back, I think this is the solution, stripping electrons and protons from the magnetic field using dielectrics.

We cant stop the magnetic field which is a blessing, but we can remove the particles that orbit it using dielectrics, we do it everyday by using laminated plates in a transformer.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:03 AM
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It depends on your setup but I wouldnt pot the secondary only the primary,
Im thinking about potting the core with the copper wire wound around the welding rods to see if lenz can be collected in the core, in an asymmetrical setup.
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Old 10-29-2012, 06:35 PM
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Hey guys Im off for a couple of days so Iv been reading the forum some very interesting discussions going on, I particularly enjoyed the Stinging Impulse Rays thread but will refrain from interrupting the thread.

I have been studying the common alternator you know me crazy idea's
trying to understand how the coils are getting energy from the magnetic field

If we take the Birkland current theory, which has been proven
we have compressed space with high energy particles orbiting it, or I should say high energy particles orbiting each other and compressing space.
I think what we are seeing here is a magnetic field line being orbited by the electric field.
We cant stop the magnetic field line after it has been created from passing through anything but we can strip the electric field from it.

Ok back to the alternator we have an iron laminated toroid core with coils wound in it, I think the magnetic field (compressed space) is attracted to the iron because just like electricity it runs through metal (iron) easier than air.
But the electric particles that are orbiting and compressing the field dont like to run in the iron so we have a buildup of electric particles at the face of the iron, if too much pressure (over saturation) occurs the electric particles are forced into the iron causing heat, just like iron wire heats when you run electricity through it.
The coils being in the position they are, carry off the electric particles because like the compressed field they travel easier in metal (copper).
So the iron to a certain degree is stripping the field of the electric particles and we can see that laminated plates work even better at this.

I dont see why we cant do this very same thing in the core of a magnetic field,

Just some thoughts, I am working in this direction.
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:20 PM
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Asymmetric alternator

I just love it when they say it'll never work, dont waste your time and money
Notice the north and south claws are out of phase

I need one more stator
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:49 PM
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Im surprised that the magnetic field from this small toroid magnet is as strong as it is, I can pick it up with a compass over a foot away.
The magnet is from a microwave magnetron.
I need a longer shaft, will have to search the junkyard.
The stator is wound using s winds not a complete circle, interesting, I may leave the stator winds as they are to start.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:10 PM
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Hey folks me again
I think we need to take everything we read with a grain of salt, especially from those in high academic standing, and that includes my work. I tell it as I see it at the time and is always subject to change as I learn, if I ever stop learning I'll quit because I will be no good to you or myself.

I have been studying the alternator and trying to understand below is a pic showing the rotor cutting the stator wire, the alternator has an unusual winging its an s winding.
I can understand why a alternator would be nowhere near efficient the fields cutting the wires are running against each other in a number of different ways.

By reversing the claws on the alternator we have created a type of homo-polar generator and will be very interesting to check out, but Im sure the stators will have to be rewound.

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Old 11-01-2012, 12:58 PM
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I think for the homopolar gen the winding on the stators needs to be wound like this, one side cw and ccw on the other, direction of rotation will also be important.

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Old 11-01-2012, 01:42 PM
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by winding the wire around the stator the poles should add to each cut of the wire
Will be interesting to find out.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:34 AM
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this guy cracks me up, but what I wanted to show everyone is the iron ring he uses to separate the pos and neg charge.
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I watched a vid simular to this where he used the ring about a year ago but he took down his vids, but found this today and wanted to bring attention to it.

Why is the iron ring stopping the arc over, does it create a magnetic field that cant be crossed by the electric field, very interesting.
Brings to mind the wheel within a wheel written of in the Bible.

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Old 11-10-2012, 03:16 PM
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Has Kurt (Mr.Clean) found the key we'v been looking for, Juno - Science:Magnetosphere
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This type of energy device is capable of converting the high frequency, high level of the cosmos, kinetic radiations by synchronization, into usable frequencies and voltages. Basically the theory of operation is as follows:

Oscillations by synchronization are started in the first stage of the circuit of the device by exciting it with an external power source such as the difference of potential between two points. The circuit is then balanced through synchronization until the oscillations are sustained by harmonic coupling with the energies of the Universe. The reinforcing action of the harmonic coupling increases the amplitude of the oscillations until the peak pulses "spill" over into the next stage through special detectors or valves which then prevent the return or feedback of the energy from the preceeding stages. These oscillating pulsations drive each succeeding stage which oscillate at a controlled frequency and which are again reinforced by harmonic coupling with the ever present energies of the Cosmos. That is, the first stage drives a second stage, the second stage driver a third and so on. Additional stages are coupled or until a suitable power level at a usable frequence voltage and amperage is obtained by means of special resonant oscillators.

Once the device is in operation and delivering energy, it does not require the continuance of the original excitation induced by the difference of potential between two points to maintain the oscillations. The oscillations are sustained as long as the device remains properly synchronized and the external circuit is completed through a suitable load. This load may be maintained at as low an output as 1/4 watt, The special tubes which are the key to the successful operation of this device are specially constructed ionic, cold cathode tubes.


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All energies of the plasma of the Universe have resilient rigidity and density, which is subject to displacement and strain. When a resilient substance is subject to strain and then set free, one of two things will happen, The substance will slowly recover from the strain and gradually obtain its natural state or the elastic recoil will carry it past its position of equilibrium and cause it to execute a series of oscillations. Something of the same sort will also occur when an electrified capacitor is discharged through special high frequency valves.
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Hey MM good to read ya bro
Very interesting info, you can just feel the truth in his words, like he's done it already

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Once the device is in operation and delivering energy, it does not require the continuance of the original excitation induced by the difference of potential between two points to maintain the oscillations. The oscillations are sustained as long as the device remains properly synchronized and the external circuit is completed through a suitable load.
I especially liked this part, he looped it
Thats what we have to do,
Tesla used vacuum tubes (valves) in his Car
Hmmmmmmmmmm makes a person want to fry some vacuum tubes
One thing Iv learned since delving into this en devour is parts are very hard to source, we need to be able to make our own.
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I know what these coils do,
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