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Old 09-25-2012, 11:57 AM
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This is the field that transfer's energy from one coil to another
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Here's a simple experiment take two coils one cw and one ccw, power the ccw from the left and notice the magnetic pole, now power the cw coil from the right and notice the pole. You would think that powering two coils from opposite ends would give opposite poles but it doesnt. A very simple experiment but a very important one.


Ok Utkin and Don Smith show diagrams where one side of the coil is volts and one side amps.

So if north is always amperage and south is always voltage and we pulse the coils from the center as shown, our femf in one coil should be amperage and the femf in the other coil should be voltage.

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Good article for reference -

Magnetism definition of Magnetism in the Free Online Encyclopedia.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:51 AM
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Yes very good article, what amazes me is all the calculations and studying they've done on the magnetic flux but totally leave out or ignore the electric field or A vortex field as its called.
The A vortex field is the energy field its the field that transfer's energy from one coil to another, induction, but is totally ignored, instead they focus on magnetic flux which is the axle that the electric field rotates on.
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Yes very good article, what amazes me is all the calculations and studying they've done on the magnetic flux but totally leave out or ignore the electric field or A vortex field as its called.
The A vortex field is the energy field its the field that transfer's energy from one coil to another, induction, but is totally ignored, instead they focus on magnetic flux which is the axle that the electric field rotates on.
Those who do not conform to classic ideologies (dogma) are not allowed mainstream voice.
The self serving elite employ 'experts' who have deemed that electron spin/ vortex technologies are to be for *their* secret military energy, weaponry and transport provisions only !

Presently my mind is fascinated by the possibility of phased domain reversal or second harmonic augmentation of fundamental on a per pulse basis.

Could *phonic* core resonance induce domain field spin flips with an associated increasing of the transducible total field energy.
As per the mechanical ~3" long *steel* cored phonic induced field within the Hendershot device and its curious travelling electron speed wave/ delay line 'capacitor', with buzzer amplitude modulation of the tuned flip-flop coil oscillation ?
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Iv been looking at the SEG
So I got a ring magnet from a speaker and some small mags from the shack
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this reminded me of your thread: Richard VIALLE's new theory and experiments about negative mass and overunity
maybe something interesting for you
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Thanks S e t h I'll check it out.

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If this picture is correct that only fig 4 has the interaction of magnetic fields which can work together and this is what we want I think.
Do you agree with that and that's why you marked this picture ?
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:54 PM
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Fig 4 represents the way two magnets interact when aligned side by side as in the SEG, or coils wound on a toroid.
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Each figure in the pic shows how the two A vector fields interact, notice the direction of the vector field on each magnet, they are represented as gears, I put an axle in fig 1 an 2 but could also be in 3 and 4, the magnetic field does not turn just the vortex field the magnetic field acts like an axle.
Fig 1 the vector fields are running the same and join.
Fig 2 the vector fields are running opposite and will not join.
Fig 3 the vector fields are running the same and will not join.
Fig 4 the vector fields are running opposite and will join.
I puzzled over this until I represented the mags with gears, then you can see whats happening, fig1 and 2 I understood but 3 and 4 had me puzzled.
Notice in fig 3 the gears cannot turn but in 4 they can.
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Iv been thinking about the symmetrical version of a magnet verses the asymmetric version.
If a magnet was symmetrical then the spin would be the same on both ends either cw or ccw also one would be moving in and one out.
We can see this is not the case by watching this experiment MAGNETIC VORTEX SPIN DISCOVERY, Sept. 2011, TORNADO UNDERWAT.mp4 - YouTube
one end spins cw and the other ccw both moving away from the magnet, another interesting note if a magnet was symmetrical the energy would move from the wire through the magnet and into the ground and not create a vortex on the other end, and if it did it would be moving into the magnet, a siphoning effect, but we dont see this happening.

Lets look a the asymmetrical version with this version we have fields moving in the opposite direction from the bloch wall out to both ends of the magnet one moves cw and the other ccw, this version fits the experiment, one end would be cw and the other end would be ccw both moving away from the end of the magnet and energy would create the field above the magnet and it would be moving away from the magnet.


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The energy moving through a magnet is not static, it may be at rest when the magnet is not acted upon, it reaches an equilibrium a balance.
The aether seeks balance if we pull energy from only one side of the magnet we create an imbalance and the aether will add to the magnet to try to reach balance again, if we pull from one side the magnet pulls on the aether but it pulls in two directions from the center out so we have a deficit on one side and a build up on the other, the build up on the other side works like pressure opposing the draw from the aether and limits our ability to draw from the aether.
Our coils have to be wound and powered asymmetrically, we have to move energy out in both directions to stop the opposition and let the energy flow through our system evenly, naturally, then we can open the dam and draw energy at will.
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Lets look at the gear analogy again, if we had two gears riding on this gear and we spun the gear it would move both gears feeding energy into both gears the same. If these were fields and we pulled from one side only one would build up excess and one would have a deficit, the one with excess would build up pressure and stop or impede the flow.
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:54 PM
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Using the asymmetric field theory can we understand why ac electricity pushes and pulls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMR47rWo504
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The herringbone gear works well as an analogy but we must remember the gear turns independent of the shaft.
In this way we can understand how the fields are asymmetric but still work together.
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:41 AM
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Another interesting thought using the gears, when we stack them inside each other they share a common shaft.

Just a thought exercise
If we have three gears, one inside the other, 3 volts on two outer gears and pulse the inside gear very hard and fast we should be able to accelerate the two outer gears more than a normal 3 volts would rotate them. Or maybe accelerate the #2 gear which in turn would drive the inside gear faster and in a cw direction, the outside gear slower but with more torque in a ccw direction.
I'll ponder on this awhile

We should be able to see a geometric position that would enable us to use the fields like leverage, using a large one to accelerate a small one.
We cant turn the shaft but we can accelerate the gears using electricity.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:34 PM
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Lets stay with the gear analogy for a bit.

Now we'r still looking at the gears one inside the other here.
The problem is bemf, when we pulse a gear it moves forward with high speed but when the pulse ends the gear tends to reverse, therefore opposing the other gears and any increase we had. Its like spinning a flywheel but right before you let go you pull it back, killing any acceleration you had.

So how do we position the gears so the bemf doesnt effect the other gears.
Lets look at what happens to our gear as we pulse it, it not only comes back but it also comes apart, it dissipates.
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The true force is centripetal but the rebound force is centrifugal, if we spin a magnet on its axis a very high speeds we get a centrifugal force that would resemble our galaxy.
Our galaxy has an equatorial plane, using the asymmetric model we can see why, as the herringbone gear spins at high velocity the centrifugal force caused by inertia would form and equatorial plane a split in the center because its asymmetric.


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Old 10-05-2012, 01:20 PM
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As our gear comes apart in our circuit we see one side as femf and the other as bemf.
And it fits the inductor model reaction, the forward emf moves on into the load keeping the bulb lite after the switch has been disconnected and the bemf runs counter to the applied current.
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AC or LC circuit powering a coil
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What happens when we use a lc circuit on the primary in the Don Smith setup

The coils are wound right on one pulse but wrong for the opposite pulse.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:30 PM
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Its a paradox for sure
Say the two outer coils are powered with a steady 5 volts and we want to add to them with a center coil, as you can see the center coils magnetic field opposes both outer coils, will this impede the system or make it snap back faster
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I think Im going to wind some coils and play with this a bit.

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Using the herringbone gear has helped me understand, I think
This is what I think happens when we pulse a coil the fields actually cut the inductor

When the pulse is on it cuts the inductor but when off the connection is broken and we get a reverse direction in the fields a snapping back action,at the present we catch the field snapping back \\\\\\\\\\\//////////// or by spinning the magnets and stealing their field with a conductor but
Can we catch the field as it moves in boy do I have some idea's on that one.
Can we iceolate that field

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I have been thinking about this for a long time, it all came into place this mourning.
stay tuned

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