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Dave , i don't know if you have seen it but i think it is worth checking it out

A I R Magnetic phenomena's 2012 - YouTube

Here is what I believe. Energy on secondary is a copy of energy of primary. Hard to believe but this is it, if you eliminate Lenz law.

then you are Alive .... any trailers before hand

looking forward to see the results of your tests

Ezekiels Wheel is the first recorded "Machine" in History. Two intersecting toroid fields has been my prime study. Its a difficult configuration to deal with and not much experimentation is done with it.
Just one idea I have on it is a toroidal Pmh with the poles being separated somehow at the intersects of the "wheel". One pole on each intersect. The magnetic current flow stays inside the materiel though. Question is can you access the magnetic current at the intersects,think cavity where the 2 toroids join,and use it to generate an electrical field in the other toroid.

Then there is pulsing an electric current through one toroid creating a magnetic field in the other.

Dave ....check this out :

a wheel within a wheel

The Vega Science Trust - Electrical Generator Demonstration



might interest you .. a simple test yet much to be learned

he has a nice youtube channel with all kinds of test ... the one i was looking for was graphene

VegaScienceTrust - YouTube

Dave , what will you be seeing ( the blue circles drawn will be facing you ) when you look at your set up side ways

indeed, however keep in mind that the South pole ( - sign ) is smaller than the North Pole .... so in the drawing the Negative Pole with arrows would be a bit smaller ( asymetry )



Think of it this way, The South Pole Wheel has to fit within the North Pole Wheel a Standing Wave

North Pole and South Pole ( look closely at the circles )




an Alchemical Analogy for you would be:

When the Sun meets the Moon (the sun is larger and More immaterial than the moon )

the same is shown here :

Apply that pic to the 2 intersecting toroids. If I remember correctly the Rodin coil math showed the zero point below the center. That would be the approximate location of the white circular dots in the pic.
Just an observation.

Nice designs Dave

You talk the Talk .... and you walk the walk


ps: Check your pm .... when you have a moment

This is very interesting approach Dave I've been trying similar concept couple years ago with conical coils. I think, my mistake was in employing another coil in between to collect, while it should be different component - just as you're doing.
Great work

Vtech

We have to search for clues
in this vid the aluminum ring gets hot, that tells me current is running in the ring,
If a ring were placed on the other side of the coil current would run through it too, but in the opposite direction.
Lenz's Law & Eddy Currents - YouTube
the magnetic field is in the iron core this reaction is caused by the electric field.

Walter Russel saw the answer

The Image you chose of walter Russell 's work reminded me of a topic we just discussed ... the 100 year old battery ... think about it using Russell's Lens .... 3 large circles to form one unit :



Silver circle , Blotting Circle and Zinc Circle



find silver and zinc on the periodic table below

You cant see it in the pics but there is 1 1/4 in. pvc that connects the two cones, I plan on using a primary as in the Don Smith device to power the coils, well actually two primary's pulsed out of phase, wound bifilar, one winding shorted.
I plan to also use permanent magnets in my core, I hope to make the system versatile so I can change it up easily, Im a very slow builder but I'll get there.

dave

Iv been thinking on what a magnetic field is and cant seem to grasp it, when in a coil it reminds me of a tear in space-time that the aether rushes in to fill the void, it creates and imbalance that needs to be filled.
They say its chaotic but I think its very ordered and balanced and seeks balance and order all the time, it can be easily manipulated and this gives the impression of chaos.
dave

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Hi Dave

I have followed this thread for a while now and i believe that you are on the right track we cannot hope to achieve OU if we don't understand how the electro magnetic field vs field of a magnet works.
I am experimenting just on getting useful work out of a permanent magnet
and hope to get something like almost a wind up clock working with magnet power in other words instead of a spring.

Best Johan

Hi Johan
Thanks and good luck with your experiments.
We will find the right question someday.
dave

MM has brought this image up and I have studied it before here is my interpretation
The swastika represents the fields if you notice it looks like a galaxy
The four dots are a representation of the four fields
south magnetic field
north magnetic field
cw electric field
ccw electric field

Something Don Smith says in one of his vids he said we are already using ambient energy just not in a efficient way,
I agree the magnets we use in our generators pull energy from the ambient whether its a permanent magnet gen or a gen using coils we are pulling in the aether, but we aren't using both sides thats where the inefficiency comes into play in the form of heat and under unity,
I read once cant remember where that overunity was the norm and not the exception and I believe this to be true we just havent touched on the problem yet, we are running one sided.

Dave check this out .... i definetely think this might provide some answers to ypur previous question .... indirectly ... especially around 1:00 min

Amazing HD Video of Planets - Stitched Together from NASA Photos - YouTube

found originally on ATS

At 1:00 min you have flows going CW and CCW around the centre.
As so:


o = meddle/centre

Awesome magnetic field of a planet in action, too cool
thanx

Why dont the planets crash into each other since they are essentially magnets, if the galactic plane is the divider and planetary body's on one side are pos and the body's on the other side would be neg, this keeps the planets from crashing into each other they have the same charge they repel as in the earth and moon.
The earth and moon are attracted to each other magnetically but repelled because of their charge.

Don also stated in the vid that the larger the diameter of the coil the more amps and the length determines voltage, very interesting.

now compare it to 1:11 min or if you prefer the surface of a gazeous planet

Cold electricity does not seek ground it seeks to join with the earths magnetic field and travel to the opposite pole.
Hot electricity which is what we use seeks ground and moves to the opposite pole through the planets core.
The forces would be opposite in the southern hemisphere.
We have to take into account we live on a magnet and we are working within the confines of that magnet, we are manipulating the magnets fields and our devices are tied into the planets fields, there's no way to get around it.
Even if we build a device (ufo) that is strong enough to repel the planet the fields are still tied into the planets fields.
dave

If we were to theoritically build an efficient UFO ... It would harmoniously use all the forces that Nature provides .... in other words it would not go against the grain but rather along the grain ( anisotropy ) of nature ... observe the votexes on the gazeous planet and compare it with the appearances of ufo on certain geographical areas on our planet more than others ( principle of correspondence )



now here is the loop hole for you :

Looking at the picture of Jupiter, a picture of a Walter Russell coil overlaid on the planet appeared in my mind.

From either end you would see the CW and CCW of the coils. If the spacing of the coils is done right one will go with the CW and the other with the CCW, with the feilds.


What would happen if a round magnet (e.g. 1 cm diameter x 3 cm long - that type of round magnet), was placed in the middle?

A coil whether it be the primary or the secondary produces both fields cw and ccw and we have to allow for this.

bucking coils
a coil wound ccw on the left and another coil wound cw on the right are not bucking coils. put power to the center on one and then the center on the other the magnetic field is the same it does not change.

and yes a magnet in the center will work if its orientation is the same as the coils,