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Old 05-12-2010, 10:39 AM
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Have you tried to make it charge its own power source yet? IE a scalar charger setup.

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Have you tried to make it charge its own power source yet? IE a scalar charger setup.

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Thanks Matt, No I haven't but I'll be trying that shortly.

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Old 05-12-2010, 02:11 PM
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Earth ground

I am back working on my mechanical switch now and one thing that comes to mind about channeling the Aether into the batteries was the utilization of an earth ground and an antenna.
Has anyone tried this?

How could one do this without interfering with the circut? ...put an earth ground/antenna on each battery, or do it at the caps?


...just thinking out loud...


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Old 05-12-2010, 02:45 PM
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Hi,

I have finally finished soldering a 4PDT Switch relay for the Tesla switch with a TL494 oscillator, just I wanted to know at what frequency you guys get the best result? Some say 0.5-2 Hz, others say around 50-60 Hz, in some documents 100Hz-800Hz, and apparently Brandt himself has used about 900Hz, to achieve "resonance". I am going to get two more batteries to start my testing procedures.

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Old 05-12-2010, 02:57 PM
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The higher Hertz rating would be used to drive a transformer or something along that line. The slower hertz would be used to directly power a load IE bulb or a motor.
I have been running my big switch about 2 minutes each direction and it is doing real well.
I would guess just a pick a point and start it. Try to slow it down and observe the results. Not Good go the other direction.

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I haven't read the whole thread, so I don't know if anyone's thought of it yet, but what if you were to put an HHO cell in the middle of the circuit? I wonder what kind of interactions water would produce with the charging batteries, and if hydrogen/oxygen production would be boosted...

Heck, maybe it would both charge batteries AND make HHO!!!!
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Bits... Brandt.

Bits,

Have you seen Brandts switching diagram using just 6 x 12 volt batteries? its similar in idea to what you laid out using relays in the latest jpg you put up.

His system delivers 24 volts of "relative potential" in either direction, with each discharge pulse from one 3 battery series bank being pushed thru the other 3 battery bank which is in parallel, and then this inverts.

I've put something together which works... it switches the potentials fine. The pic of the brandt controller is on Evgray yahoo group in the "sweet files" in one of the PDF's there. A similar schemo is here on bedini's old pages, second picture down. (the schemo here is for a 12volt RP aka relative potential, just add one more pair of batteries and switches for 24v RP)

THE TESLA SWITCH

Next step is to see how it works with some windings setup to outpulse to a load.

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Old 05-13-2010, 09:50 PM
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Have you seen Brandts switching diagram using just 6 x 12 volt batteries? its similar in idea to what you laid out using relays in the latest jpg you put up.

His system delivers 24 volts of "relative potential" in either direction, with each discharge pulse from one 3 battery series bank being pushed thru the other 3 battery bank which is in parallel, and then this inverts.

I've put something together which works... it switches the potentials fine. The pic of the brandt controller is on Evgray yahoo group in the "sweet files" in one of the PDF's there. A similar schemo is here on bedini's old pages, second picture down. (the schemo here is for a 12volt RP aka relative potential, just add one more pair of batteries and switches for 24v RP)

THE TESLA SWITCH

Next step is to see how it works with some windings setup to outpulse to a load.

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Thanks Gene, yes I have seen that, in fact I have even held brandt's switch in my hands that he gave to John back in 84 when I visited John back in March. The relays I am showing on my drawing are just to show how I am going to pull the batts in and out of the circuit. The Digital Tesla Switch uses the batts to charge one another and does a nice job of that. The problem though is when you are wanting to drive bigger loads. I want 24V and the capability to draw a continious 10 Amps. This is why I am using individual cap pulsers on each batt so I can recover the batts faster.

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2 CAP Pulser

I modified the 4 CAP Pulser now just using 2 CAPS. This one works real well. In about 35 Min. the batt has gone from 12.2 to 12.7.

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YouTube - 2 CAP Pulser.MPG

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Hi all has anyone tried pm as a homopolar motor on the TS ? Will reed.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:48 AM
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I haven't read the whole thread, so I don't know if anyone's thought of it yet, but what if you were to put an HHO cell in the middle of the circuit? I wonder what kind of interactions water would produce with the charging batteries, and if hydrogen/oxygen production would be boosted...

Heck, maybe it would both charge batteries AND make HHO!!!!
Ya it does. It does a fair job of recovering the energy too. It kinda makes one think. I thought you were supposed to be adding an electron to break the bond of the water molecule. Can't be right if 95% pf everything you put in comes back out.


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Hi all has anyone tried pm as a homopolar motor on the TS ? Will reed.
You pass alot of amperage and the ones I have built don't stay intact long.

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Thanks Matt. What about in series with a HHO cell ? Will reed.
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Thanks Matt. What about in series with a HHO cell ? Will reed.
I am not sure what that means, you might have to diagram it.
On a TS the load is always in series with the discharge battery bank. It will either step the voltage up and knock the amperage down or step the voltage down and knock the amperage up.

I did not do extensive testing with an HHO cell. I used 2 plates (3"wide x 6" tall) and a jar of water. No salts. I could light a match to it about every minute or so and get a crack out of the fuel. It was a 12 volt system that pulled about 1 amp. I was just testing the recovery rate.

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Old 05-15-2010, 06:37 AM
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The higher Hertz rating would be used to drive a transformer or something along that line. The slower hertz would be used to directly power a load IE bulb or a motor.
I have been running my big switch about 2 minutes each direction and it is doing real well.
I would guess just a pick a point and start it. Try to slow it down and observe the results. Not Good go the other direction.

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Thanks for the Input Matt!
Well, I as thinking along the line: There are two phenomena I have been intrigued with by thinking about the Tesla Switch:
1- Splitting the Positive,
2- Capturing the Radiant by Rapid Switching.

The simple three battery system, that Bedini has mentioned, has no switching in it, and apparently works in the line as "splitting the positive" and I think that it is a way to recover a "dipole" while destroying another. I think that it is called "splitting the positive".

Capturing the Massless electricity or Radiant Electricity is preformed when switching, thus I concluded faster the switching more Massless electricity is drawn into the system, and of course there must be a balance point.

The fact that you are using such a large period like 2 minutes, is astonishing. Are you getting the same result as your commutator based switching system, which operated around 200-300Hz as I recall you mentioning it?

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as simple as it get's

Here I am charging some caps in par and discharging them to battery with nvisser's simplified diagram but without the diode's so no ser to par switching.

Simple Charger

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Impressive!!
Like in patent 667730
He use 0.132 farad capacitors. A lot
What do you use as your input?
And what are your par cap value?
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Impressive!!
Like in patent 667730
He use 0.132 farad capacitors. A lot
What do you use as your input?
And what are your par cap value?
That's also an interesting circuit and probably doing the same thing in a better way

In the Video i'm using 24v on the input with 8x 15000 uf cap's.

My Use for the Tesla Switch:
I made a very small 18v solar panel and it's collecting 'radiant' energy from the sun, the TS is pulsing the 'FREE ENERGY' to the battery
On a sunny day I get 1A Pulses from this tiny panel and im impressed, not that I ever used a conventional solar charger

This is COP>1 for sure

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Do you current limit the 24V input to the 120 000uf cap bank?
I found that to charge up such a huge bank with 24V draws a lot of current if not limited. I would love to know how you fully charge them up in 1 sec with only 400mA
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Have you tried to make it charge its own power source yet? IE a scalar charger setup.

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I'm about to do the same with a DC impulse circuit that I have. I just fixed my oscilloscope CRT yesterday and was able to hook up my circuit to see every thing working as it should. I want to make a capacitor bank for my source and for a separate charge bank as I only have batteries set up now and they are not very accurate. I recorded a charging effect on them back in january and have been testing various configuration changes with the toroidal inductor that I use to make the spike, and the toroidal inductor that I use in directing the scalar wave (just as tesla did in his HF patents). I'm hoping to have a cap. bank together in a few days to reliably assess energy tapping.
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Do you current limit the 24V input to the 120 000uf cap bank?
I found that to charge up such a huge bank with 24V draws a lot of current if not limited. I would love to know how you fully charge them up in 1 sec with only 400mA
I am using a 'Stabilized DC Power Supply 5 - 14V 2.5A' BUT I modified it by turning a variable resistor that was inside and now I can regulate it to 24V
The current I can not regulate.
I find that the higher the voltage the higher the current pulse ratio is, for example at 18V you get 1A>2A and at 24V 2A>6A pulse.
For higher voltage 'radiant' input your Ser/Par version works and if the input voltage is below the battery voltage or one want's to charge a battery on it's own Par/Ser is the way to go

Here a picture of my tiny 18V solar panel, I have it inside behind the window and it is working with your version of the circuit without ALL the diodes
TS_PVAmp_Panel.jpg
And here a movie of the output to the battery, Much better result than my 4 battery TS

Forgot to mention: In the video you can also see what happens when the clouds get in the suns way.

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Good morning guys,
lost in the sea of free energy devices, you forgot that major invention from John, that is going to manufacture now: his solid state battery pulser, that he names now Tesla Solar Switch.
I have always be surprised that nobody ever tried to replicate it, it's the most simple of device.
Basic logic chip, transistors and capacitors ... exactly as you saw in the video by John that have removed prior to start selling the device.



Abstract: Technical Field:
(0001) The invention relates generally to a battery pulse charger using a solid-state device and method wherein the current going to the battery is not constant. The signal or current is momentarily switch-interrupted as it flows through either the first channel, the charge phase, or the second channel, the discharge phase. This two-phase cycle alternates the signal in the two channels thereby allowing a potential charge in a capacitor to disconnect from its power source an instant before the capacitor discharges its stored potential energy into a battery for receiving the capacitor's stored energy. The capacitor then disconnects from the battery and re-connects to the power source upon completion of the discharge phase, thereby completing charge-discharge cycle. The battery pulse charger can also drive devices, such as a motor and a heating element, with pulses.

full patent here: Zero Point Energy - John Bedini Solid State Generator - MDG 2007

I wish I was an expert in electronic, because I would have free electricity since a long time, but for my private use, because it's patented
Is it a US only patent, or worldwide cover ?!

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I also wish you were an expert in electronic, because you would found out that it is not a free energy device but a very effective battery charger.
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Good morning guys,
John Bedini is the greatest electrical genius of our time
I would have to encourage you to read back through the thread a bit. I believe this to be the only thread in the forum that truly discussing anything close to overunity (whatever that word is worth).
Nothin but good stuff...

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Tomorrow I will try two battery's in series as the input.

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Made another Video

Tomorrow I will try two battery's in series as the input.

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Looking great. When you use batterys in series as the input, this will work great as well. If your intent is to charge them from the same device, becareful! A ground loop is created and you will start to fry things. I am stilll trying to work through this issue with mine.

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If there is a current build up from this groundloop, couldn't you put a current sensor in there that would detect current level and peroidically shunt excess to a cap or another batt?

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Looking great. When you use batterys in series as the input, this will work great as well. If your intent is to charge them from the same device, becareful! A ground loop is created and you will start to fry things. I am stilll trying to work through this issue with mine.

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If there is a current build up from this groundloop, couldn't you put a current sensor in there that would detect current level and peroidically shunt excess to a cap or another batt?

David
I am trying to work with steering diodes at the moment to isolate. Will post when I am able to resolve.

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Looking great. When you use batterys in series as the input, this will work great as well. If your intent is to charge them from the same device, becareful! A ground loop is created and you will start to fry things. I am stilll trying to work through this issue with mine.

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Used 2 battery's in series to charge 1 battery, fried nothing

Made 2 movies because I have only 1 Amp meter.

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Used 2 battery's in series to charge 1 battery, fried nothing

Made 2 movies because I have only 1 Amp meter.

Input
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This is the circuit I used
Attachment 5552

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What I was saying is that if you wanted to try and use the "input" batts drive the pulser and then "charge" the "input batts" (kind of a self runner) then you would have issues and could fry components.

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