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The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism

talking about translation, does anyone know a good reference on the philosopher's stone and how to make it: old recipes is preferable...why you ask:

the philosopher stone maybe a fractal key, meaning it has also applications in the electromagnetic domain amongst other (like the caduceus see http://www.energeticforum.com/148706-post116.html )...so if we can translate it using electromagnetic and circuitry as our base, maybe it could point us towards the right direction to free energy or other...:D

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The Philosophers' Stone and the secret of its Geometry

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~clauspat/stonea.htm

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[ From A.E. Waite's Collectanea Chemica, London, 1893

Anonymous: On the Philosophers' Stone (Alchemy)

from:http://www.rexresearch.com/alchemy5/regardie.pdf

splitting water:

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Know then, that the division that was made upon the Water, by the ancient philosophers, separates it into four substances; one to two, and three to one; the one third part of which is colour, that is to say --- a coagulating moisture; but the two third waters are the Weights of the Wise (5).
when you burn HHO you get "a coagulating moisture"

magnetism or electricity:

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In the cavern of metals, there is hidden the Stone that is venerable, splendid in color, a mind sublime and an open ocean.
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how would you translate this one "electromagnetically" :

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Put the matter into a moist fire, therefore, and cause it to boil, in order that its heat may be augmented, which destroys the siccity of the incombustible nature, until the radix shall appear; then extract the redness and the light parts, till only about a third remains.
hint: fire is a state of high frequency vibration (see also: http://www.energeticforum.com/136699-post25.html )

reminder: applied to electromagnetism

The seven Principles
2.1 Principle of Mentalism
2.2 Principle of Correspondence
2.3 Principle of Vibration
2.4 Principle of Polarity
2.5 Principle of Rhythm
2.6 Principle of Cause and Effect
2.7 Principle of Gender

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related to the golden Treatise: you are going to like this:

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"Know that this matter I call the stone, but it is also named the feminine of magnesia, or the hen, or the white spittle, or the volatile milk, the incombustible
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In the cavern of metals, there is hidden the Stone that is venerable, splendid in color, a mind sublime and an open ocean (the electric universe ).
electricity then...


magnet - definition of magnet by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
[Middle English, from Old French magnete, from Latin magns, magnt-, from Greek Magns (lithos), Magnesian (stone), magnet, from Magnsi, Magnesia, an ancient city of Asia Minor.]

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Here is the full version on electricity:

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Know that this matter I call the stone; but it is also named the feminine of magnesia or the hen, or the white spittle, or the volatile milk, the incombustible oil (electricity ) in order that it may be hidden from the inept and ignorant who are deficient in goodness and self-control; which I have nevertheless signified to the wise by one only epithet, viz., the Philosopher's Stone.
Include, therefore, and conserve in this sea, the fire and the heavenly bird (ufo ), to the latest moment of his exit
note: The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus; golden could be a reference to the golden mean (ie:fractal )

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it would be nice to have people contribute in this translation...keep an open mind and read through The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus, with electricity in mind and see what comes out and share

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This, O Son, is the concealed stone of many colours(electromagnetic spectrum), which is born and brought forth in one colour; know this and conceal it. By this, the Almighty favouring, the greatest diseases are escaped, and every sorrow, distress, and evil and hurtful thing is made to depart; for it leads from darkness into light, from this desert wilderness to a secure habitation, and from poverty and straits to a free (Free Energy for Everyone ) and ample fortune.
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electromagnetic spectrum:

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Extract from the ray its shadow, and from the light its obscurity (ultra violet aka "black light" ) , by which the clouds hang over it and keep away the light; by means of its construction, also, and fiery redness (infrared maybe), it is burned
Take, my Son, this redness, corrupted with the water, which is as a live coal holding the fire, which if thou shalt withdraw so often until the redness is made pure, then it will associate with thee, by whom it was cherished, and in whom it rests.

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If you place an iron rod in a dark room and cause it to vibrate at first you'll only be able to tell it is vibrating by touching it.

Increasing the vibration to 32Hz will produce a loud and shrill sound and vibration can now be detected by both touch and hearing. Increase that vibration to 40Hz and you can no longer detect the vibration by touch or sound.

If you increase the vibration to 1.5MHz you cannot feel or hear the vibration but you can detect the vibration though the rise in temperature in the iron first warm and then the iron rod will glow red hot and can be detected by sight.

At 3MHz the rod is now producing violet light; increasing the vibration more will produce ultra-violet rays and other invisible radiations that can only be detected by special instruments.

There are so many "vibrations" flowing all around us that are invisible to our 5 senses who can tell how they affect us. Uranium emits and invisible radiation that will kill you. You cannot see it but it is there and kills. Who is to say how the other radiation affects the body and mind.

Isn't it possible that the mind radiates its own wireless transmissions that are received by other minds but we just are unaware of that as of yet. There is no scientific proof for or against this theory, yet so many people will just to the conclusion that it cannot exist. There are among the same people that would have disbelieved radio existed before it was proven that is does exist.

You MUST keep an open mind and use these methods as those successful have already used them to achieve success. Who are you willing to believe, those who have not succeeded or those who have?


Dr. Alexander Graham Bell


want to know how vast the electromagnetic spectrum is , Richard Hammonds does an excellent presentation (starts at 10 min):

YouTube - Invisible Worlds - Out of Sight 1/4.avi

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Know, therefore, that in the hen's egg is the greatest help with respect to the proximity and relationship of the matter in nature (fractal nature), for in it there is a spirituality (all is spirit, and so is electromagnetics ) and conjunction of elements, and an earth which is golden (golden mean see: http://www.energeticforum.com/149201-post91.html ) in its tincture.

the hen's egg (Victor Schauberger's egg, inventor of : The Schauberger Flying Saucer "The Repulsin" type A)




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i also found this:

North - sun, sulfur
Southwest - moon, salt
Southeast - Mercury, quicksilver


THE THEORY AND PRACTICE OF ALCHEMY - INCLUDING ORMUS

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Argent vive, in alchemy, is synonymous with mercury or quicksilver "the cold, moist receptive seeds of metals" which were united with the hot, dry active seeds of sulphur in order to produce the philosopher's stone.
remember Edward Leedskalnin peculiar choice of land... or Leon SPRINK:Space Activator (see: http://www.energeticforum.com/135946-post17.html )

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sorry if this isn't relavent to your post, but I couldn't read the whole thing just yet, I am not feeling well, and having a hard time concentrating. very interesting thread though, and I will be coming back to catch up when I feel better!
I hope this helps or is at least useful to you. I found this a few months ago, and never got around to reading the whole thing, but it claims to be a philosophers stone recipe
from what I have read of it, it sounds very interesting, but I got distracted from it, and forgot about it completely until I saw this thread today.
I have no idea what all is in it, but hopefully it is at least somewhat useful to you


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Thank you Neight , and i hope you get well (natural honey helps ) , any contribution is welcome, you are adding a branch to this tree, and i thank you for that

back to our discussion, a word i did not understand so i looked it up and here is what i found:

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Return, then, O my Son, the coal being extinct in life, upon the water for thirty days, as I shall note to thee - and henceforth thou art a crowned king, resting over the fountain and drawing from thence the Auripigment dry without moisture. And now I have made the heart of the hearers, hoping in thee, to rejoice even in their eyes, beholding thee in anticipation of that which thou possessest.
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It is presently used in the production of infrared-transmitting glass, oil cloth, linoleum; in semiconductors and photoconductors, as a pigment and in fireworks. Mixed with two parts of slaked lime, orpiment is still very commonly used in rural India as a depilatory. It is also used in the tanning industry to remove hair from hides
see: The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism

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side note: Alchemist are known to use Gibberish:

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The term was first seen in English in the early 16th century.[2] A common theory is that the word comes from the name of the famous 8th-century Islamic alchemist, Jabir ibn Hayyan, whose name was Latinized as "Geber", thus the term "gibberish" arose as a reference to the incomprehensible technical jargon often used by Jabir and other alchemists who followed
I think Alchemist understood the value of a fractal construct:

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a fractal construct has an 'efficient function', it has a fractal ergonomy to them, they function on multiple levels and in multiple dimensions:
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does anyone know what coal could mean if applied to electromagnetic ...think what it is a rock, an aggregate of carbon, graphene (http://www.energeticforum.com/144235-post111.html ) etc...
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But the Son, enquiring or Hermes, saith, The sulphurs which are fit for our work, whether are they celestial or terrestrial ? To whom the Father answers, Certain of them are heavenly, and some are of the earth.
Think of Tesla...

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But saith Hermes, It is not so; the masculine truly is the Heaven of the feminine, and the feminine is the earth of the masculine.
The Son then asks, Father, which of these is more worthy than the other; whether is it the heaven or the earth? Hermes replies, Both need the help one of the other; for the precepts demand a medium.
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And this know that except thou understandest how to mortify and induce generation(energy), to vivify the Spirit (electricity), and introduce Light (magnetism), until they fight with each other and grow white and freed from their defilements, rising as it were from blackness and darkness, thou knowest nothing nor canst perform anything;
I'd refer you to this post: http://www.energeticforum.com/148673-post110.html
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the Dragon inhabits in all these(radiant energy), and his houses are the darkness and blackness (vacuum) that is in them and by them he ascends into the air, from his rising (high frequency) , which is their heaven
ps: what i present here is my interpretation, if you find a different one please share (within the electromagnetic reference )
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‪Joseph Farrell - the Philosopher's Stone‬‏ - YouTube


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Prolific author Joseph P. Farrell, who commands a growing and devoted audience on Coast to Coast AM, Erskine Overnight, and other programs, initiates his Feral House association with The Philosopher’s Stone, in which he demonstrates the connections of modern physics and ancient alchemy by investigating monatomic gold, the work of Russian astrophysicist Nikolai Kozyrev, and the fuel for the mysterious Nazi "Bell" device, Serum 525.

let me ask you this, what is more exotic than water (see post: http://www.energeticforum.com/149292-post160.html )

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would know how to cook our FIRE in our WATER, then their
Knowledge of Nature would rise above that of the cooks
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In this show the author, and we all know that, Alchemist had to undergo a purification process, and i think i know why: remember water is a crucial element in Alchemy (All is Mind )

Dr Masaru Emoto

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Until the groundbreaking work of a pioneer Japanese researcher whose astonishing discovery about water, documented photographically, changed most of what we didn’t know…and led to a new consciousness of Earth’s most precious resource.

Dr. Masaru Emoto was born in Japan and is a graduate of the Yokohama Municipal University and the Open International University as a Doctor of Alternative Medicine. His photographs were first featured in his self-published books Messages from Water 1 and 2. The Hidden Messages in Water was first published in Japan, with over 400,000 copies sold internationally.
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note: when i mention all is mind, it is to show which referential and logic you should use...basically, you use the same referential as Hermes (forget about your personal belief, think like Hermes if you want to understand what he meant)
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There is one thing you should keep in mind, a Fractal Construct/Key adapts to its holder; in other words it shows you what you want (be it spiritual, scientific etc...), not much different than us humans interact with other humans...
...and yes you are a Fractal Construct ...focus your mind on electromagnetics and the Golden Tractate will reveal itself to you....




Ormus is also a key element, check this out , posted by IndianaBoys

ORMUS IS A GAS by John V. Milewski using electromagnetic energy

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I just viewed a vid that was suggested to me by shawnnweed, it's about John Hutchinson

see :http://www.energeticforum.com/149447-post170.html

after viewing it, you could interpret the following differently

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the Dragon inhabits in all these(ORMUS), and his houses are the darkness and blackness (vacuum) that is in them and by them he ascends into the air, from his rising (high frequency) , which is their heaven (Amplify the energy "raise it from the abyss "or Ormus is a gas as John V. Milewski says )
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translated as nearly as I can interpret.

Extract from sunshine it's infrared and from the light its ultraviolet, by which the clouds hang over it(the earth) and keep away the light. (we all know that global warming is caused by the trapping of infrared light, which passes through clouds, while the clouds repel almost all types of ultraviolet light) by means of its construction, ALSO, and fiery redness (absolutely infra-RED), it is burned(sunset).
Take, my Son, this infrared, that is refracted by water, which is extremely hot, which if you wait will turn pure red (700 nanometers), then it will be usable, for them that wait upon it, and whom it falls on. (which are only those that wait on it.)
side note. Photo-voltaic cells spike at sunset due to the intensity of the infra-red spectrum.
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translated as nearly as I can interpret.

Extract from sunshine it's infrared and from the light its ultraviolet, by which the clouds hang over it(the earth) and keep away the light. (we all know that global warming is caused by the trapping of infrared light, which passes through clouds, while the clouds repel almost all types of ultraviolet light) by means of its construction, ALSO, and fiery redness (absolutely infra-RED), it is burned(sunset).
Take, my Son, this infrared, that is refracted by water, which is extremely hot, which if you wait will turn pure red (700 nanometers), then it will be usable, for them that wait upon it, and whom it falls on. (which are only those that wait on it.)
side note. Photo-voltaic cells spike at sunset due to the intensity of the infra-red spectrum.
Excellent Shawn, it is starting to make more sense

we're on the right track

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Understand the operation, therefore. Decoction lessens the matter, but the tincture augments it; because Luna in fifteen days is diminished;
Decoction lessens the matter :The process of boiling the matter to lessen it, or if you prefer the process of high frequency applied to matter/ Light (all is vibration see post The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism )

High frequency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

High Frequency Waves are Short Waves, if i'm correct

the tincture augments it:

tinc·ture (tngkchr)
n.
1. A coloring or dyeing substance; a pigment.
2. An imparted color; a tint.
3. A quality that colors, pervades, or distinguishes.
4. A trace or vestige: "a faint tincture of condescension" (Robert Craft).
5. An alcohol solution of a nonvolatile medicine: tincture of iodine.
6. Heraldry A metal, color, or fur.
tr.v. tinc·tured, tinc·tur·ing, tinc·tures
1. To stain or tint with a color.
2. To infuse, as with a quality; impregnate.

this part i would interpret it, as saying in reference to the electromagnetic spectrum and how you can concentrate/filter light at different wavelength (think of a laser )
light passing through glass or water





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This is the beginning and the end
Walter Russell's Periodic table (see: http://www.energeticforum.com/129527-post1.html ), but it also applies to all fractal construct, the electromagnetic spectrum too (see picture above )

there is an animation in the following link, that does an excellent job at explaining Walter Russel Table of Element (Bohr's model )

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Animal Symbolism
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Animal Symbolism in alchemy

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At the core of this was a vision of an alchemical process occurring through a cycle of colour changes, from an initial blackness to the perfection of the quintessence.
The alchemist envisaged each stage of the process being heralded by a colour change and a meeting with certain animals.
Blackening - Black Crow, Raven, Toad, Massa Confusa. (UV Light, please confirm )


The Birds in Alchemy by Adam McLean

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Thus in the symbol of the Black Crow we have the stepping out in consciousness (all is mind )from the world of the physical senses the restrictions that bind us to the physical body.
here it would suggest the work on electromagnetic, we are stepping out of the material world to explore the electromagnetic one (immaterial)

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I found an extremely useful tool for our research,



Spectral Lines

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At the end of 19th century, physicists knew there were electrons inside atoms, and that the wiggling of these electrons gave off light and other electromagnetic radiation. But there was still a curious mystery to solve. Physicists would heat up different elements until they glowed, and then direct the light through a prism...
...Pick an element from the menu to see its spectral signature.





Spectral Lines

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At the core of this was a vision of an alchemical process occurring through a cycle of colour changes, from an initial blackness to the perfection of the quintessence.
The alchemist envisaged each stage of the process being heralded by a colour change and a meeting with certain animals.
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The Four Principles

Celestial Body (Electric universe)
Spirit (electricity )
Passionate Body ( magnetism )
Husk

I'm not quite satisfied with the above interpretation, any suggestions



A whirling dervish dance



oh, look another version of the cosmic egg (The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism )

W. B. Yeats and "A Vision": The Principles

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how would you translate this one "electromagnetically" :

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Put the matter into a moist fire (electricity/radiant energy ), therefore, and cause it to boil (to vibrate at high frequency ), in order that its heat (frequency )may be augmented, which destroys the siccity of the incombustible nature, until the radix shall appear; then extract the redness (raise it to infrared frequency see The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism ) and the light parts, till only about a third remains.
The Philosophers call
this moist fire the Archaeum. It is the spirit of the LORD (electricity/radiant energy ) (Ruach-Aelohim), which
once and even now is moving upon the face of the water, as he is also in the air and in
the Earth, where only an agreeable moisture can be found
(Tesla showed it to us )

http://tikaboo.com/library/alchemy_unveiled.pdf

All of you know the role of moisture when you run your experiments (during thunderstorms for instance ) ;and if you read this post http://www.energeticforum.com/147486-post197.html , you'll understand the role played by water in collecting/transmitting Radiant Energy.

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This is just as useful in our research, and i think you might like it

Scale of Universe - Interactive Scale of the Universe Tool

found it on ATS
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This is why Thrice Hermes was exalted with wisdom.
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If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.
— Nikola Tesla

thrice
–adverb
1. three times, as in succession; on three occasions or in three ways.
2. in threefold quantity or degree.
3. very; extremely.


ex·alt·ed
–adjective
1. raised or elevated, as in rank or character; of high station: an exalted personage.
2. noble or elevated; lofty: an exalted style of writing.
3. rapturously excited


Wisdom:
1. the quality or state of being wise; knowledge of what is true or right coupled with just judgment as to action; sagacity, discernment, or insight.
2. scholarly knowledge or learning: the wisdom of the schools.
3. wise sayings or teachings; precepts.
4. a wise act or saying.
5. ( initial capital letter ) Douay Bible . Wisdom of Solomon.
Origin:
before 900; Middle English, Old English wīsdōm; cognate with Old Norse vīsdōmr, German Weistum. See wise1 , -dom

Synonyms
1. sense, understanding. 2. sapience, erudition, enlightenment. See information.

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a little contribution,won't hurt anyone and it would benefit everyone

I have been a bit focused on another thread at the moment...don't be shy; venture a translation (electromagnetic-ly talking off course ).

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I have no idea
But, am definitely reading along too...your posts carry a very strong yet subtle study of nature information, that triggers a sort of hidden knowing that appears unfathomable. I hope to fathom it out too

The only addition from here, is that of using magnetism and electrical energies in place of traditionally held 'substances' for the philosophers stone alchemy. Harmonics, resonance, mixing them and on to defining them when results are found.
Not a substance, but a method...the substance of the method being what I presume you wish to find ?
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