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It an interesting Pattern when you trace back the Origins of many Great Artist / Inventor / Discoverer of the early 20th century ...Tesla....Leedskalnin....Alphonse Mucha...G.I. Gurdjieff ... Leon Sprink...etc...All from Central Europe / Russia...we do know of the existence of the Bosnian pyramid ...and maybe more are hidden in those parts
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An interesting piece of info:

George Gurdjieff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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In late May 1920, when political conditions in Georgia changed and the old order was crumbling, his party traveled by foot to Batumi on the Black Sea coast and then[clarification needed] to Istanbul. Gurdjieff rented an apartment on Koumbaradji Street in Péra, and later at 13 Abdullatif Yemeneci Sokak near the Galata Tower.[11] The apartment is near the kha’neqa’h (monastery) of the Molavieh Order of Sufis (founded by Jalal al-Din Muhammad Rumi), where Gurdjieff, Ouspensky and Thomas de Hartmann experienced the sema ceremony of The Whirling Dervishes. In Istanbul, Gurdjieff also met Captain John G. Bennett, then head of British Military Intelligence in Constantinople. Later, Bennett would become a follower of Gurdjieff and of Ouspensky




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Reception and influence

Opinions on Gurdjieff's writings and activities are divided. Sympathizers regard him as a charismatic master who brought new knowledge into Western culture, a psychology and cosmology that enable insights beyond those provided by established science.[24] On the other hand, some critics assert he was simply a charlatan with a large ego and a constant need for self-glorification.[42] Gurdjieff is said to have had a strong influence on many modern mystics, artists, writers, and thinkers, including Osho (Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh), Frank Lloyd Wright,[43] Keith Jarrett, George Russell (composer), Alan Watts, Timothy Leary, Robert Anton Wilson, Robert Fripp, Jacob Needleman, John Shirley, Carlos Castaneda, Dennis Lewis, Peter Brook, Kate Bush, P. L. Travers, Robert S de Ropp, Walter Inglis Anderson, Jean Toomer, Alejandro Jodorowsky, Louis Pauwels, James Moore and Abdullah Isa Neil Dougan. Gurdjieff's notable personal students include Jeanne de Salzmann, Willem Nyland, Lord Pentland (Henry John Sinclair), P. D. Ouspensky, Olga de Hartmann, Thomas de Hartmann, Jane Heap, John G. Bennett, Alfred Richard Orage, Maurice Nicoll, Lanza del Vasto, George and Helen Adie, Rene Daumal and Katherine Mansfield. The Italian composer and singer Franco Battiato was sometime inspired by Gurdjieff's work, for example in his song "Centro di gravità permanente" - one of most popular modern Italian pop songs. Aleister Crowley visited his Institute at least once and privately praised Gurdjieff's work, though with some reservations.[44] During WWI, Algernon Blackwood took up spying while reporting to John Buchan, author of The Thirty Nine (39 form 6 )Steps. After the war, during the Roaring Twenties, Blackwood studied with Gurdjieff and Ouspensky.[45]

Gurdjieff gave new life and practical form to ancient teachings of both East and West. For example, the Socratic and Platonic emphasis on "the examined life" recurs in Gurdjieff's teaching as the practice of self-observation. His teachings about self-discipline and restraint reflect Stoic teachings. The Hindu and Buddhist notion of attachment recurs in Gurdjieff's teaching as the concept of identification. Similarly, his cosmology can be "read" against ancient and esoteric sources, respectively Neoplatonic and in such sources as Robert Fludd's treatment of macrocosmic musical structures.

Fourth Way Enneagram

An aspect of Gurdjieff's teachings which has come into prominence in recent decades is the enneagram geometric figure. For many students of the Gurdjieff tradition, the enneagram remains a koan, challenging and never fully explicated. There have been many attempts to trace the origins of this version of the enneagram; some similarities to other figures have been found, but it seems that Gurdjieff was the first person to make the enneagram figure publicly known and that only he knew its true source.[citation needed] Others have used the enneagram figure in connection with personality analysis, principally in the Enneagram of Personality as developed by Oscar Ichazo, Claudio Naranjo, Helen Palmer and others. Most aspects of this application are not directly connected to Gurdjieff's teaching or to his explanations of the enneagram.
also Rodin Proved that the enneagram can be applied to electromagnetic....search Rodin Coil (principle of Mentalism )

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countries that you cannot understand to-day
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you know something of yesterday

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from: Saint Germain's Dragon

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Perhaps a long-hidden rare manuscript written by Saint Germain himself can shed some light on the subject bridging the past and present day reports of terrifying dragons in the sky and lineaged Dragon Societies.

We ride on the back of the Winged Dragon to the birth of myths that described cosmological changes and brought incomprehensible catastrophe to our ancestors but led to the rebirth of modern civilization. It contains the common root of the mysteries of qabalah, alchemy, magic, hermetics, tantra, The Bible, the Tree of Life, immortality, and more.

This winged dragon is the symbolic superstar of Saint Germain’s Triangle Book. In The Book of Lambspring (as in Lamb = Agnets = Agnus ). It represents the Anima Mundi, or Soul of the World, which is the sum total of planetary existence -- the holographic blueprint on which form is based, the informational level or primal source of being - Zero Point. It is said that medicine providing the gift of youth can be made from its venom. (paracelsus "All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; only the dose permits something not to be poisonous." )


The dragon is a healing power. The spiritual food of immortality signifies the ability of the ego to assimilate the previously unconscious aspects of the Self. This is the elixir of youth that creates the immortal body, equivalent to the Philosopher's Stone. The invocation with powerful godnames is combined with the dragon emblem to initiate the current. The rite couldn't be practiced without the Emblems and Sigils and perhaps the bloodline.

In legend, the alchemical Philosopher's Stone is kept in the custody of the reawakened Dragon, the Adept who inhabits his or her Body of Light. Alchemy itself is a triple process of uniting the physical, psychological and spiritual. In Masonry, each line of the triangle itself symbolizes a kingdom of nature -- mineral, vegetable and animal. They stand for explorations the Master Mason needs for a complete education.

All these points may be clues to the nature of the "winged dragon" of the title page of The Triangle Book. In alchemy it is a symbol of the volatile elements. The winged dragon appears as a symbol of coagulatio in other alchemy texts, suggesting the pandemonium of psychic images.

Psychologically, the dragon is the union of ordinary human reality with the Transpersonal Self and a passion for transformation. Some now say it is a symbol of DNA or the kundalini energy. Thus, it is a symbol of the Great Work.
a Fractal Construct like you



link to scanned pages of the triangle book by St Germain:

Manly Palmer Hall collection of alchemical manuscripts, 1500-1825

this going to be fun ) possibly applicable to electromagnetism if you know how to interpret it ....fractal

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one more info , forgot to add, about Rennes le Chateau in the Languedoc Region:

from:Sidobre

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Geography of the Languedoc: Areas of Special Interest: The Sidobre

The granite plateau of the Sidobre is found in the north west part of the regional natural park of Haut-Languedoc, overlooking the plain of Castres to the west, in the department of Tarn. It lies south west of the massif central, between Lacrouzette, Ferrières, Saint-Salvy-de-la-Balme and Lafontasse. The river Agout winds around the edge of the area.

It is around ten kilometres long and ten kilometres wide, its surface fissured by erosion. This is one of the largest deposits of granite in Europe, formed over millennia. 300 million years ago a 12 kilometre stream of molten magma surged over the area to a depth of some 12 kilometres in the Hercynian mountain range. Today the remnant of that geological activity is the Massif Central, including, to the south, the Montagne Noire and the Sidobre of Upper Languedoc. Eroded over the millennia, this mountainous terrain contains crystalline deposits of mica, quartz and feldspar, which formed as the magma cooled.

This is not a well known area, particularly considering the numbers who flock to nearby Carcassonne. This in itself is a good reason to visit the area. Erosion over the ages has left remarkable formations, including:
Chaos de Saint Dominique,
Peyro Clabado (Clenched Nail), a massive block of granite weighing over 750 tons, perched on some very .
Le roc de Pèiro Clavado or Peyro Clabado (Clenched Nail), at Lacrouzette : a block of 780 tonnes naturally balanced on small rocks
Le chaos de la Resse : a river of rocks
Le lac du merle : « Blackbird Lake» full of rounded pebbles
Le rocher de l'oie : «Goose rock»
Les Trois Fromages (The three cheeses) best seen on foot as the GR36 footpath passes this way. Les Trois Fromages is a vast block of granite fissured by ice erosion into three parts.
Roc de l'Oie is a shapely block
The Elephant
The Phallus

Forests, streams and waterfalls provide a veneer over great granite masses, products of the process by which the earth itself was formed.

The economy of this region has evolved around the extraction of granite, its transformation, commercialisation and transport, which provide employment for some 2300 people and 250 small businesses, and have won international renown in the working of the stone. The Arche de la Defense at Paris is covered with Sidobre granite.


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A great national design competition was launched in 1982 as the initiative of French president François Mitterrand. Danish architect Johann Otto von Spreckelsen (1929–1987) and Danish engineer Erik Reitzel designed the winning entry to be a 20th-century version of the Arc de Triomphe: a monument to humanity and humanitarian ideals rather than military victories. The construction of the monument began in 1985. Spreckelsen resigned on July 1986 and ratified the transfer of all his architectural responsibilities to his associate, French architect Paul Andreu. Reitzel continued his work until the monument was completed in 1989.

The Arche is in the approximate shape of a cube (width: 108m, height: 110m, depth: 112m); it has been suggested[who?] that the structure looks like a hypercube (a tesseract) projected onto the three-dimensional world. It has a prestressed concrete frame covered with glass and Carrara marble from Italy and was built by the French civil engineering company Bouygues.


a Stargate of sort



Rennes le Chateau 2 - Demain l'Héritage Révélé ( Jimmy Guieu ) - YouTube

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Hey MM got zapped by the wimshurst yet

Something Iv wanted to know when the machine is running do you get a magnetic field at the shaft, there is a chance you may not since they are opposing, just thought you may give it a shot if you have a compass on hand.

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will do when i get the itch to start ....as for being zapped ...not yet ...

Thanks Dave

i think blackchisel97 also has one....more likely to have a compass at hand....don't you blackchisel97

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from: Rennes le Chateau 2 - Demain l'Héritage Révélé ( Jimmy Guieu ) - YouTube

images taken from the church of Rennes le Chateau (or somewhere close )

you'll recognize much of these images as they have been discussed (Principle of Polarity )



this one corresponds to the following



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you know the expression " Divide and Conquer" or "Clash of the civilizations"....what if i told you


3 = Torah

6= Bible

9= Koran


(or you could switch the numbers for each, it does not matter as each combination will have its own meaning )



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the beauty of Fractal Constructs...when put together they will resonate to each other
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from: A Fractal Application to society



it takes 3 waves to make a variation

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a fractal construct has an 'efficient function', it has a fractal ergonomy to them, they function on multiple levels and in multiple dimensions:
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COHERENCE AT ANY LEVEL IS COHERENCE AT ALL LEVELS.
An orderly arrangement between wave lengths establishes a connection between frequencies and fields. But for this connection to last, it must resonate to all frequencies and fields. This can only be accomplished through the resonate structure of golden mean pathways
. a harmonic cascade effect
ps: Nostradamus lived in the same Geographic Area

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will do when i get the itch to start ....as for being zapped ...not yet ...

Thanks Dave

i think blackchisel97 also has one....more likely to have a compass at hand....don't you blackchisel97
No, I wish. I have built one when I started to explore this field but that was 35 years ago. I'm collecting parts to make one again, with slightly modified layden jars and powered by perm. magnet motor. Just an idea I want to try.

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sorry blackchisel97, i thought you did

little update started playing around with making ormus...not yet comfortable enough to start playing with the liquid

just a little side note (haven't done the search yet ) but i have seen many research done on ormus for health issue....but not in the experimentation for instance in the creation of crystal batteries / energy catalyser ....remember Principle of Mentalism : Universe is all Wave (source field )

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A painting of Augustine of Hippo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Augustine of Hippo ( /ɒˈɡʌstɨn/[1][2] or /ˈɔːɡəstɪn/;[2] Latin: Aurelius Augustinus Hipponensis;[3] November 13, 354 – August 28, 430), also known as Augustine, St. Augustine, St. Austin,[4] St. Augoustinos, Blessed Augustine, or St. Augustine the Blessed,[5] was Bishop of Hippo Regius (present-day Annaba, Algeria). He was a Latin philosopher and theologian from Roman Africa. His writings were very influential in the development of Western Christianity.

According to his contemporary, Jerome, Augustine "established anew the ancient Faith."[6] In his early years he was heavily influenced by Manichaeism and afterward by the Neo-Platonism of Plotinus.
Follow his heart (held on the left hand and pen ) 6 3 9 receive and emit like a Fractal Antenna ( ie Initiate Teacher )





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I f this was the key to many esoteric teachings...let's apply it to some of the most intriguing paintings we discussed

the St Augustine Painting: follow the Ray of Truth



Mona Lisa : Open your Eye and you'll find the Treasure



note that each number falls on a different geographic scenery and the famous smile
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just in case, you are wondering...this is the recipe I am following...instead of loved ones pictture...i will use this picture:



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Simple Ormus-Making Recipe
by Anne Beversdorf




This recipe s offered by Anne Beversdorf. Please feel free to copy and distribute. There is absolutely NO recommendation about usage here. This is an experimental product available for research purposes.

For more information about ORMUS, see ORMUS Index

Equipment needed:
2 Stainless steel or pyrex bowls, to hold at least ½ gallon volume each
Coffee filters
Strainer to hold coffee filters (coffee pot top is ok unless aluminum.) Do not use aluminum.
Squirt bottle with good lid, or dropper bottle
pH paper that tests up to at least 11 (I’m happy with strips ordered from Molecular Models, Permanent Magnets, Test Strips, Science Lab Supplies )
Glass jar (spigot at bottom is useful)
Turkey baster or 50cc syringe (esp. if you don’t have a spigot on the jar)

Pyrex measuring cup.

Ingredients needed:
Coarse sea salt. The gray kind that looks damp—clumps together—is best. I get it from Trader Joe’s for $3.79/2-cup jar. Or you can order Dead Sea Salt directly from Soapmaking Supplies | Soapmaking Recipes | Soap making Supply | Snowdrift Farm | Essential Oils for Soapmaking
Lye (Red Devil Lye is in most groceries in the Drano section). You can also order food grade lye from Soapmaking Supplies | Soapmaking Recipes | Soap making Supply | Snowdrift Farm | Essential Oils for Soapmaking
Gallon of Distilled water
White distilled vinegar

Preparation: Do this over the sink, out of the way.

Pour one cup of distilled water in Pyrex measuring cup that’s sitting in the sink. Add two tablespoons of lye powder. Standing back from the sink so fumes don’t get in your eyes, stir powder til it dissolves. Note: The water will get hot. If lye powder contacts your skin or clothes, remove it immediately with water and soap---take off the clothing immediately. The powder will eat through clothing and skin.

Place the squirt bottle or dropper bottle in the sink and pour the lye solution into the bottle. If water is still hot, leave the lid loosely placed over the top. You can fasten it later, when the water cools down.

Instructions:
Pour 4 cups of water in a bowl and dissolve 1cup of salt in the water. (Different brands of salt have different yields. Dead Sea salt takes 1/8 cup per gallon.)
Strain salt water thru coffee filters into the second bowl. You will probably have to use many coffee filters, as there’s a lot of “stuff” in sea salt.
With pH paper ready, start adding dropperfuls (or very small squirts) of lye-water to the salt water, STIRRING CONSTANTLY. (Vary your stir pattern, as the lye-water will tend to concentrate on one section unless you blend it everywhere.)
Check the pH of the water. You want the pH to reach 10 without going as high as 11. It will rise slowly til it gets to about 9, and then will go faster. When it gets to about 10 it will suddenly rise FAST. If it gets as high as 11, add a few drops of vinegar to bring the PH back down.
Note: The reason for the exact pH reading is that the m-state elements will drop out of the water at just over 10.5. If you go too high, other elements (“Gilchrist Elements”) will drop out of the water, and they are bad for you. So you want the pH to stay under 11. (10.78 to be exact).
When the correct pH is reached, check several places in the water to make sure it’s evenly distributed.
Pour water in large jar. Let it settle for at least 4 hours. Overnight is best. A white or grey precipitate will form at the bottom of the jar.
When 4-12 hours has passed, drain or siphon off the clear water (salt water), and refill the bottle with distilled or good drinking water. (You may keep this water, adding more distilled to it and raising the pH to get more precipitate.) Shake it and let it settle again. This is called “washing the precipitate”.
Wash the precipitate at least 3 times with clean water, each time shaking it and letting it settle at least 4 hours before repeating.
After the last wash, pour the “slurry” of grey/white powder and water into a glass jar with a lid and save it for use. Store it away from electric or magnetic fields.
Since Ormus is strongly affected by intent and by energy fields, it seems to increase its potency if you surround it with high-energy objects. These range from crystals, to photos of beloved teachers or grandmothers, to written intentions of goals, etc.

How to use If you choose to ingest it, start with about a half teaspoon twice a day. If you take too much at the beginning you may go into a “healing crisis” as your body detoxes.

It has also been applied directly to the skin to improve scars, age spots, wrinkles, discolorations, etc.

Pets and plants love it. (You don’t need to use much on plants to get huge yields. If you use TOO much, yield drops. The ratio, for what it’s worth, is 3 gallons per acre once a season. I’ve also heard one-half cup per five gallons of water.) Flowering plants bloom like mad after receiving just a drop of Ormus in their water.

For more information on Ormus, combining Ormus with essential oils, or for astrological insights into personal growth, contact:

Anne Beversdorf Inner Growth Counselor Western and Vedic Astrologe

it would be interesting to print the design on silver or gold coated paper search the internet some sell them

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The Principle of Polarity.

"Everything is Dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites; like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled." - The Kybalion
Spiritual Gold / Material Gold

You may not have noticed it but the story itself of Rennes le Chateaux has also two poles :

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When man writes, he inscribes characters upon rock, leaf, paper, wood, or steel. When God writes, the characters He writes are living creatures.
Rennes le Chateau, Story 1st part

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Marie d'Hautpoul and Father Bigou

Antoine Bigou had succeeded his uncle Jean as priest of Rennes le Château in 1774 .He was the confessor of marchioness of Hautpoul.It is said that she told him a very important family secret and gave him some documents just before she died. It is said that she asked him to tell the secret to another person who would understand it's importance. Marie de Négri Dables, Lady of Hautpoul died on January 17th 1781 and was buried in Rennes le Chateau’s churchyard

Bigou hid the documents in one of the pillar that held the altar in the church.

In 1791,he laid a flagstone on the marchioness’ tomb.

He had some strange signs carved on the tombstone : ET IN ARCADIA EGO :I who am also in Arcadia

Moreover,as the lady died on January 17th 1781,the date on the grave should be MDCCLXXXI instead of MDC O LXXXI

In the church,he had the Knights flagstone laid before the altar,but the sculpted side was facing the ground.

He was considered a non-juring priest and he had to flee to Sabadell,Spain,where he died on March 21st 1794 after he had told the secret to Father Jean Vié (priest in Rennes les Bains) and to Father Emile François Cayron (priest in St Laurent de la Cabrerisse). Both men were priests of their towns from 1840 to 1872

The signs on the tomb were erased by Sauniere ,but we know of 2 reproductions of it.One was made by Eugène Cros( an amateur archeologist),the other by Eugène Stublein.On Stublein’s drawing though,the greek letters ( et in arcadia ego) do not appear.
a map found from the link....mash up time




don't know what it means for now...might be useful later on

-------------------from a previous post:

Another of Poussin's Painting:



Number 3



Pink(skin) Yellow and Blue.....the Empress

Et in Arcadia ego - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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"Et in Arcadia ego" is a Latin phrase that most famously appears as the title of two paintings by Nicolas Poussin (1594–1665). They are pastoral paintings depicting idealized shepherds from classical antiquity, clustering around an austere tomb. The more famous second version of the subject, measuring 87 by 120 centimetres (34.25 x 47.24 in), is in the Louvre, Paris, and also goes under the name "Les bergers d'Arcadie" ("The Arcadian Shepherds").
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The literal word-for-word translation of the phrase is "Even in Arcadia I (am there)," "I" being death, and "Arcadia" being understood as a utopian land. It is usually interpreted as a memento mori. In Greece, during Antiquity, Greeks lived in cities close to the sea, and led an urban life. Only Arcadians, in the middle of Peloponnese, lacked cities, were far from the sea, and led a shepherd life. For urban Greeks, especially during the Hellenistic era, Arcadia symbolized pure, rural, idyllic life, far from the city.
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Poussin's own first version of the painting (now in Chatsworth House) was probably commissioned as a reworking of Guercino's version. It is in a far more Baroque style than the later version, characteristic of Poussin's early work. In the Chatsworth painting the shepherds are actively discovering the half-hidden and overgrown tomb, and are reading the inscription with curious expressions. The shepherdess, standing at the left, is posed in sexually suggestive fashion, very different from her austere counterpart in the later version. The later version has a far more geometric composition and the figures are much more contemplative. The mask-like face of the shepherdess conforms to the conventions of the Classical "Greek profile"


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Poussin was thirty when he arrived in Rome. At first he lodged with Simon Vouet.[4] Through Marino, he had been introduced to Marcello Sacchetti who in turn introduced him to another of his early patrons, Cardinal Francesco Barberini. Financial difficulties arose with the departure to Spain of Barberini, accompanied by Cassiano dal Pozzo, the antiquarian and the Cardinal's secretary, who later would become a great friend and patron. However, their return from Spain in 1626 stabilized Poussin’s position, with renewed patronage by the Barberini and their circle

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It an interesting Pattern when you trace back the Origins of many Great Artist / Inventor / Discoverer of the early 20th century ...Tesla....Leedskalnin....Alphonse Mucha...G.I. Gurdjieff ... Leon Sprink...etc...All from Central Europe / Russia...we do know of the existence of the Bosnian pyramid ...and maybe more are hidden in those parts
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the name of the Cathars found in Languedoc kept popping up throughout this recent research...here is an interesting fact about them and their origins

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Catharism (from Greek: καθαρός, katharos, pure)[1] was a name given to a Christian religious movement with dualistic and gnostic elements that appeared in the Languedoc region of France and other parts of Europe in the 11th century and flourished in the 12th and 13th centuries. The movement was extinguished in the early decades of the thirteenth century, when the Cathars were persecuted and massacred under the Inquisition.

Catharism had its roots in the Paulician movement in Armenia and the Bogomils of Bulgaria which took influences from the Paulicians. Though the term "Cathar" has been used for centuries to identify the movement, whether the movement identified itself with this name is debatable.[2][3] In Cathar texts, the terms "Good Men" (Bons Hommes) or "Good Christians" are the common terms of self-identification.
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Bogomilism was a Gnostic religiopolitical sect founded in the First Bulgarian Empire by the priest Bogomil during the reign of Tsar Petar I in the 10th century.[1][2][3] It most probably arose in what is today the region of Macedonia ( Native Region of Alexander the Great , pupil of Aristotle )[4][5] as a response to the social stratification that occurred as a result of the introduction of feudalism and as a form of political movement and opposition to the Bulgarian state and the church.

The Bogomils called for a return to early Christianity, rejecting the ecclesiastical hierarchy, and their primary political tendencies were resistance to the state and church authorities. This helped the movement spread quickly in the Balkans, gradually expanding throughout the Byzantine Empire and later reaching Kievan Rus ,Bosnia and Herzegovina, Dalmatia, Italy, France, and England.

The Bogomils were dualists in that they believed the world was created not by the Abrahamic God, but by an evil demiurge — the Devil. They did not use the cross nor build churches, preferring to perform rituals outdoors.
All Truth is Half Truth ...fractal



Note the regions as you may recognize as some of the great learning centers of their time

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the Paulician movement in Armenia

Carahunge Armenia's Stone Henge

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In the mountains of nowadays Armenia (in the south, close to town Goris), the first observatory Carahunge (Car-means stone, hunge-means voice, sound) was created. It has a history of 7.500 years and scientists believe, that there is a tight connection between the observatory in Armenia and Stonehenge in Britain, since the latter is much younger (about 4000 years) and the name itself is similar to the Armenian name and the second half of the name (hange) does not really mean anything in English.


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This Prehistoric Monument consisting of hundreds of Standing Stones on a territorial area of approximately 7 hectares.
Many of these stones have smooth angled holes of 4 to 5cm in diameter, the angles of the holes being directed at different points on the horizon and outer space. The age of Carahunge has been estimated to be 7500 years or older (VI millennium BC). This was accurately ascertained by taking readings of the motion of the Sun, Moon and stars, using four independent astronomical methods based on the laws of the changes of the Earth’s axis precession and incline.


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Side note : the immigration Pattern can be interpreted as the two poles of a magnet





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Paulicians (Armenian: Պաւլիկեաններ, also remembered as Pavlikians or Paulikianoi[1]) were a Christian Adoptionist sect and militarized revolt movement, also accused by medieval sources as Gnostic and quasi Manichaean Christian. They flourished between 650 and 872 in Armenia and the Eastern Themes of the Byzantine Empire.
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Though the term "Cathar" has been used for centuries to identify the movement, whether the movement identified itself with this name is debatable.[2][3] In Cathar texts, the terms "Good Men" (Bons Hommes) or "Good Christians" are the common terms of self-identification.
did i mention the mountains of the Pyrenees are close by

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The same can be said about the other side of the straight





-------------------and on the South/ Female Pole you get a different kind of "Cathedral"



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The Almohades were the first to build a palace, which was called Al-Muwarak, on the site of the modern day Alcázar. The palace is one of the best remaining examples of mudéjar architecture. Subsequent monarchs have added their own additions to the Alcázar. The upper levels of the Alcázar are still used by the royal family as the official Seville residence and are administered by the Patrimonio Nacional.
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find the Male and Female

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The Aljafería Palace (Arabic:قصر الجعفرية Qasr Aljafariya, Spanish: Palacio de la Aljafería) is a fortified medieval Islamic palace built during the second half of the 11th century in the Moorish taifa of Zaragoza of Al-Andalus, present day Zaragoza, Spain. It was the residence of the Banu Hud dynasty during the era of Abu Jaffar Al-Muqtadir after abolishing Banu Tujibi of Kindah dynasty. the palace reflects the splendor attained by the kingdom of the taifa of Zaragoza at the height of its grandeur. The palace currently contains the Cortes (regional parliament) of the autonomous community of Aragon.

The structure holds unique importance in that it is the only conserved testimony of a large building of Spanish Islamic architecture of the era of the Taifas (independent kingdoms).
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After the capture of Zaragoza in 1118 by Alfonso I of Aragon, the Aljaferia became the residence of the Christian kings of the Kingdom of Aragon and as such was converted into the focal point for spread of the Mudéjar Architecture of Aragon. it was the birthplace of Saint Isabel of Portugal in the year 1271. of Portugal in the year 1271.


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while we are on the subject of Architecture...the same is applicable to the US Expansion or what the Historians Call: Far West: Gold Rush...don't forget we are Fractal Antenna...Naturally attracted to the female pole if we are male (positively charged ) particules think Silicon Valley...Ipad...Hollywood...Monsanto.... ....etc.... Hollywood and Wall Street





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Taliesin West (aka The Ship ) was architect Frank Lloyd Wright's winter home and school in the desert from 1937 until his death in 1959 at the age of 91. Today it is the main campus of the Frank Lloyd Wright School of Architecture[5] and houses the Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation.

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Wright and the Taliesin Fellowship began to "trek" to Arizona each winter in 1933 (similar trekking as Leedskalnin ). In 1937 Wright purchased the plot of desert land that would soon become Taliesin West. He paid “$3.50 an acre on a southern slope of the McDowell Range overlooking Paradise Valley outside Scottsdale.”[6]

Wright believed this to be the perfect spot for such a building, a place of residence, a place of business and a place to learn. Wright described it like this, “Finally I learned of a site twenty-six miles from Phoenix, across the desert of the vast Paradise Valley. On up to a great mesa in the mountains. On the mesa just below McDowell Peak we stopped, turned, and looked around. The top of the world.”[7]

Being in the desert water could scarcely be found. This resulted in an investment of over ten thousand dollars to dig a well deep enough to provide sufficient water for the campus.

Design

Wright felt very strongly about the connection to the desert. He said: “Arizona needs its own architecture… Arizona’s long, low, sweeping lines, uptilting planes. Surface patterned after such abstraction in line and color as find “realism” in the patterns of the rattlesnake, the Gila monster, the chameleon, and the saguaro, cholla or staghorn – or is it the other way around—are inspiration enough.”

The structure's walls are made of local desert rocks, stacked within wood forms, filled with concrete. Wright always believed using the materials readily available opposed to those that must be transported to the site. In Wright’s own words, “There were simple characteristic silhouettes to go by, tremendous drifts and heaps of sunburned desert rocks were nearby to be used. We got it all together with the landscape…”[7] The flat surfaces of the rocks were placed outward facing and large boulders filled the interior space so concrete could be conserved.
many think of pole shifting as in physical poles shifting...maybe...I would rather go the spiritual way..and say that the Female Pole (innovation, imagination, all cultural aspect of life ) will no longer be where it is today

Edgar Cayce A.R.E. Seven Prophecies That Came True

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“Question: What great change or the beginning of what change, if any, is to take place in the earth in the year 2,000 to 2,001 A.D.? Answer: When there is a shifting of the poles; or a new cycle begins.”(826-8 given August 11, 1936)

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I was wondering what the yellow design in the Re-designed Moroccan Flag could be useful for...to point towards a direction





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Another example of the principle of polarity:

Before It's News

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The Hubble telescope, named after astronomer Edwin Hubble, observes the universe with ultraviolet, visible, and near-infrared instruments. The Hubble was launched into orbit around the Earth in 1990 and still remains in operation, often capturing intense images of stars, constellations and distant galaxies. In a recent article, The Business Insider listed 10 things Hubble has discovered that science was previously unaware of.


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Israel's Antiquities Authority and Google announced Tuesday they are joining forces to bring the Dead Sea Scrolls online, allowing both scholars and the general public widespread access to the ancient manuscripts for the first time. ...


----------also an interesting article: Before It's News

The Great Pyramid Was Built By The Druids Of Ireland (why not )

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The Great Pyramid has been called “the Bible in stone”[2], and according to an ancient Arab legend, the Great Pyramid contains the past and future history of the world.[3] Indeed, the solutions to Mankind’s toughest and most intractable problems have been symbolically written into the ground plan of the pyramids at Giza. In ancient times, Mankind solved the problem of the inequitable division of land and natural resources via a periodic declaration of economic renewal known as the Jubilee Year. The Jubilee Year of “Clean Slate” debt forgiveness and redistribution of the land and natural resources has been hard-wired into the ground plan of the pyramids at Giza, and according to the Dead Sea Scrolls, when the Messiah returns, he is going to declare a Jubilee Year. Moreover, Jesus Christ himself tried to re-establish the ancient tradition of the Jubilee Year


Principle of Correspondence:

today for large Construction Projects you have Engineers from different countries working onsite (watch mega structures show ), so did the Mason Builder of the Middle Ages...they traveled throughout Europe building Cathedrals




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The beauty of Taliesin West (aka The Ship ) which is positioned more or less in the Neutral Center of the Magnet ....is that its design has a Feminine Component as well as a Masculine Component (straight lines, right angles etc...)







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from: Earth Mysteries: Silbury Hill, Wiltshire

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Silbury Hill, located just south of the village of Avebury in Wiltshire, is a massive artificial mound with a flat top. It is approximately 130 feet (40 m.) high, with a base circumference of 1640 feet. It is composed of over 12 million cubic feet (339,600 cubic m.) of chalk and earth and covers over 5 acres (2 ha). Silbury Hill occupies a low-lying site and except at certain points in the landscape (notably from the West Kennet Long Barrow from which this photograph was taken), it does not protrude significantly above the horizon.

It was built in three stages, the first begun around 2,660 B.C.E. The last phase comprised the building of six concentric steps or terraces of chalk which were then covered with chalk rubble, flints, gravel, and finally soil to form a cone-shaped mound. Each of the six steps was concealed within the overall profile of the mound, except the last one at the top which was left as a terrace or ledge about 17 feet (5 m.) below the summit. This terrace is clearly visible on the eastern side of the mound, but less distinct from the we
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Another explanation argues that Silbury Hill could have been used as an accurate solar observatory by means of the shadows cast by the mound itself on the carefully levelled plain to the north, towards Avebury. The meridian line from Silbury runs through Avebury church which stands on a ley line running between Stonehenge and the stone circle at Winterbourne Abbas. The same ley line also passes through two churches and the eastern slope of Silbury. Silbury, in fact, is a centre for alignments of straight prehistoric tracks, resurfaced by the Romans, and of standing stones. The Roman road between Marlborough and Bath runs directly towards Silbury Hill before swerving to avoid it. This would indicate that the Roman road followed a pre-existing track or ley line. John Michell (see Ley Lines) makes the following observations:

"In view of the fact that in China mounds like that at Silbury were erected upon "lung-mei", the paths of the dragon (see Geomancy), there is good reason to suspect that Silbury itself was sited by Pre-Celtic Druids on a dragon line with the assistance of a geomancer's compass. It may also be inferred that the Chinese "lung-mei" stretch over the entire globe. Many centres of English dragon legend (see Dragons and Dragon-killers) stand at the junction of well-marked leys, one notable long-distance example being the St Michael's line (see also The Brain is an Advanced Fractal Antenna ) that runs from the Avebury circle to the extreme west of Cornwall." ("The View over Atlantis", 1983, p. 70)
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Following up on the Dragon Subject :

The Secret Doctrine by H. P. Blavatsky

from: The Secret Doctrine by H. P. Blavatsky, vol 2 pt 1, stanza 12 b

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THE SECRET OF THE DRAGON.

but the cult is now preserved mostly in China and the Buddhist countries, “Bel and the Dragon being uniformly coupled together, and the priest of the Ophite religion as uniformly assuming the name of his God” (“Archaeology,” Vol. xxv., p. 220, London). In the religions of the past, it is in Egypt we have to seek for its Western origin. The Ophites adopted their rites from Hermes Trismegistus, and heliolatrous worship crossed over with its Sun-gods into the land of the Pharaohs from India. In the gods of Stonehenge we recognise the divinities of Delphi and Babylon, and in those of the latter the devas of the Vedic nations. Bel and the Dragon, Apollo and Python, Krishna and Kaliya, Osiris and Typhon are all one under many names (Fractal ) — the latest of which are Michael and the Red Dragon, and St. George and his Dragon. As Michael is “one as God,” or his “Double,” for terrestrial purposes, and is one of the Elohim, the fighting angel, he is thus simply a permutation of Jehovah. Whatever the Cosmic or astronomical event that first gave rise to the allegory of the “War of Heaven,” its earthly origin has to be sought in the temples of Initiation and archaic crypts. The following are the proofs: —

We find (a) the priests assuming the name of the gods they served; (b) the “Dragons” held throughout all antiquity as the symbols of Immortality and Wisdom, of secret Knowledge and of Eternity; and (c) the hierophants of Egypt, of Babylon, and India, styling themselves generally the “Sons of the Dragon” and “Serpents”; thus the teachings of the Secret Doctrine are thereby corroborated.

There were numerous catacombs in Egypt and Chaldea (see cross of Hendaye near the Pyrenee Mountains ), some of them of a very vast extent. The most renowned of them were the subterranean crypts of Thebes and Memphis. The former, beginning on the western side of the Nile, extended towards the Lybian desert, and were known as the Serpent’s catacombs, or passages. It was there that were performed the sacred mysteries of the kuklos anagkes, the “Unavoidable Cycle,” more generally known as “the circle of necessity”; the inexorable doom imposed upon every soul after the bodily death, and when it has been judged in the Amenthian region.

In de Bourbourg’s book, Votan, the Mexican demi-god, in narrating his expedition, describes a subterranean passage which ran underground, and terminated at the root of the heavens, adding that this passage was a snake’s hole, “un agujero de colubra”; and that he was admitted to it because he was himself “a son of the snakes,” or a serpent. (“Die Phoinizier,” 70.)

This is, indeed, very suggestive; for his description of the snake’s hole is that of the ancient Egyptian crypt, as above mentioned. The hierophants, moreover, of Egypt, as of Babylon, generally styled themselves the “Sons of the Serpent-god,” or “Sons of the Dragon,” during the mysteries.-





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The Assyrian priest bore always the name of his god,” says Movers. The Druids of the Celto-Britannic regions also called themselves snakes. “I am a Serpent, I am a Druid,” they exclaimed. The Egyptian Karnak is twin brother to the Carnac of Bretagne, the latter Carnac meaning the serpent’s mount. The Dracontia once covered the surface of the globe, and these temples were sacred to the Dragon, only because it was the symbol of the sun, which, in its turn, was the symbol of the highest god — the Phoenician Elon or Elion, whom Abraham recognised as El Elion.* Besides the surname of serpents, they were called the “builders,” the “architects”; for the immense grandeur of their temples and monuments was such that even now the pulverised remains of them “frighten the mathematical calculations of our modern engineers,” says Taliesin (similar name as Frank Lloyd wright's retreat: the Ship )
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Furthermore, the “War in Heaven” is shown, in one of its significations, to have meant and referred to those terrible struggles in store for the candidate for adeptship, between himself and his (by magic) personified human passions, when the inner enlightened man had to either slay them or fail. In the former case he became the “Dragon-Slayer,” as having happily overcome all the temptations; and a “Son of the Serpent” and a Serpent himself, having cast off his old skin and being born in a new body, becoming a Son of Wisdom and Immortality in Eternity.
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By simply comparing the Sun-gods of every country, one may find their allegories agreeing perfectly with one another; and the more the allegorical symbol is occult the more its corresponding symbol in other systems agrees with it. Thus, if from three systems widely differing from each other in appearance — the old Aryan, the ancient Greek, and the modern Christian schemes — we select several Sun-gods and dragons at random, these will be found copied from each other.

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Apollo is Helios (the Sun), Phoibus-Apollo (“the light of life and of the World”*) who arises out of the golden-winged cup (the sun); hence he is the sun-god par excellence. At the moment of his birth he asks for his bow to kill Python, the Demon Dragon, who attacked his mother before his birth,† and whom he is divinely commissioned to destroy — like Karttikeya, who is born for the purpose of killing Taraka, the too holy and wise demon. Apollo is born on a sidereal island called Asteria“the golden star island,” the “earth which floats in the air,” which is the Hindu golden Hiranyapura; “he is called the pure, [[agnos]], Agnus Dei (the Indian Agni, as Dr. Kenealy thinks), and in the primal myth he is exempt “from all sensual love” (“Book of God,” p. 88). He is, therefore, a Kumara, like Karttikeya, and as Indra was in his earlier life and biographies. Python, moreover, the “red Dragon,” connects Apollo with Michael, who fights the Apocalyptic Dragon, who wants to attack the woman in child-birth (See Revelation xii.), as Python attacks Apollo’s mother. Can any one fail to see the identity? Had the Rt. Hon. W. E. Gladstone, who prides himself on his Greek scholarship and understanding of the spirit of Homer’s allegories, ever had a real inkling of the esoteric meaning of the Iliad and Odyssey, he would have understood St. John’s “Revelation,” and even the Pentateuch, better than he does. For the way to the Bible lies through Hermes, Bel, and Homer, as the way to these is through the Hindu and Chaldean religious symbols (Cross of Hendaye / the Cathars ) .
see also: What did Tesla found in The Bible ?




The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus

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O Son, is but one in our egg; but this, in the hen's egg, is much less to be found. But lest so much of the Divine Wisdom as is in a hen's egg should not be distinguished, our composition is, as that is, from the four elements Adapted and composed. Know, therefore, that in the hen's egg is the greatest help with respect to the proximity and relationship of the matter in nature, for in it there is a spirituality and conjunction of elements, and an earth which is golden in its tincture. But the Son, enquiring or Hermes, saith, The sulphurs which are fit for our work, whether are they celestial or terrestrial ? To whom the Father answers, Certain of them are heavenly, and some are of the earth.


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we have Hermes Trismesgistus...or Hermes three times Master

and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_(archangel)

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Michael (Hebrew: מִיכָאֵל‎ (pronounced [ˌmixäˈʔel]), Micha'el or Mîkhā'ēl; Greek: Μιχαήλ, Mikhaḗl; Latin: Michael or Míchaël; Arabic: ميخائيل‎, Mīkhā'īl) is an archangel in Jewish, Christian, and Islamic teachings. Roman Catholics, Anglicans, and Lutherans refer to him as Saint Michael the Archangel and also simply as Saint Michael. Orthodox Christians refer to him as the Taxiarch Archangel Michael or simply Archangel Michael.

In Hebrew, Michael means "who is like God" (mi-who, ke-as or like, El-deity), which is traditionally interpreted as a rhetorical question: "Who is like God?" (which expects an answer in the negative) to imply that no one is like God. In this way, Michael is reinterpreted as a symbol of humility before God.[5]

In the Hebrew Bible Michael is mentioned three times in the Book of Daniel, once as a "great prince who stands up for the children of your people". The idea that Michael was the advocate of the Jews became so prevalent that in spite of the rabbinical prohibition against appealing to angels as intermediaries between God and his people, Michael came to occupy a certain place in the Jewish liturgy.

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from: The Secret Doctrine by H. P. Blavatsky, vol 2 pt 1, stanza 12 b

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Speaking of Adam, Kain, Mars, etc., as personifications (another way of saying Fractal ), we find the author of “The Source of Measures” enunciating our very esoteric teachings in his Kabalistic researches. Thus he says: —
“Now Mars was the lord of birth and of death, of generation and of destruction, of ploughing, of building, of sculpture or stone-cutting, of Architecture . . . . in fine, of all . . . . arts. He was the primeval principle, disintegrating into the modification of two opposites for production. Astronomically, too,* he held the birthplace of the day and year, the place of its increase of strength, Aries, and likewise the place of its death, Scorpio. He held the house of Venus, and that of the Scorpion. He, as birth, was good; as death, was Evil. As good, he was light; as bad, he was night. As good, he was man; as bad, he was woman. He held the cardinal points, and as Cain, or Vulcan,† or Pater Sadic, or Melchizadek, he was lord of the Ecliptic,balance, or line of adjustment, and therefore was the just one. The ancients held to there being seven planets, or great gods, growing out of eight, and Pater Sadik, the Just or Right One, was lord of the eighth, which was Mater Terra. (“Source of Measures,” p. 186-70.) or




Just realized an interesting version of the Principle of polarity:

If you study closely the French Language and compare it to the English Language...French could be interpreted as the Female Pole .....English Language as The Male Pole

compare the number of synonyms available for certain words in English and in French....you will undoubtedly find more words that correspond to the same definition in French

ask a woman to give you the name of all the colors she knows and do the same for a man.......

ps: Mars is also the Name of the month of March in French


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Another way of Thinking about Spiritual Gold and Material Gold.....

Material Gold is but the reflection of Spiritual Gold (Its Shadow )...on a Lower Vibrational Plane



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Anyone out under the stars in the early evening lately likely cannot help but notice two brilliant objects dominating the western sky: the planets Venus and Jupiter.

Venus, because it is closer to the sun than Earth, never strays far from the sun in our sky. Jupiter, being outside the Earth's orbit can appear anywhere along the ecliptic — the path of the sun, moon, and planets across the sky. Venus and Jupiter are gradually growing closer, and will pass each other on March 13.

The moon, meanwhile, is making its monthly trip around the Earth and will pass these two planets on Saturday and Sunday this week (Feb. 25 and 26). The moon appears close to Venus on Saturday night, and then near Jupiter on Sunday night. The view on either night will be what astronomers call a triple conjunction.

The sky map of Venus, Jupiter and the moon for this story shows how they will appear during the celestial triple play.


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Speaking of Adam, Kain, Mars, etc., as personifications (another way of saying Fractal ), we find the author of “The Source of Measures” enunciating our very esoteric teachings in his Kabalistic researches. Thus he says: —
“Now Mars was the lord of birth and of death, of generation and of destruction, of ploughing, of building, of sculpture or stone-cutting, of Architecture . . . . in fine, of all . . . . arts. He was the primeval principle, disintegrating into the modification of two opposites for production. Astronomically, too,* he held the birthplace of the day and year, the place of its increase of strength, Aries, and likewise the place of its death, Scorpio. He held the house of Venus, and that of the Scorpion. He, as birth, was good; as death, was Evil. As good, he was light; as bad, he was night. As good, he was man; as bad, he was woman. He held the cardinal points, and as Cain, or Vulcan,† or Pater Sadic, or Melchizadek, he was lord of the Ecliptic,balance, or line of adjustment, and therefore was the just one. The ancients held to there being seven planets, or great gods, growing out of eight, and Pater Sadik, the Just or Right One, was lord of the eighth, which was Mater Terra. (“Source of Measures,” p. 186-70.) or
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Nomad Alien Planets May Fill Our Milky Way Galaxy | Search for Life & Habitable Exoplanets | Solar Systems & Extraterrestrial Life | Space.com

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Our Milky Way galaxy may be teeming with rogue planets that ramble through space instead of being locked in orbit around a star, a new study suggests.

These "nomad planets" could be surprisingly common in our bustling galaxy, according to researchers at the Kavli Institute for Particle Astrophysics and Cosmology (KIPAC), a joint institute of Stanford University and the SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory. The study predicts that there may be 100,000 times more of these wandering, homeless planets than stars in the Milky Way.

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I highly recommend you read the Three Norse Poem

Völuspá

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Völuspá (Old Norse Vǫluspá, Prophecy of the Völva (Seeress); Modern Icelandic [ˈvœːlʏˌspauː], reconstructed Old Norse [ˈwɔluˌspɑː]) is the first and best known poem of the Poetic Edda. It tells the story of the creation of the world and its coming end related by a völva addressing Odin. It is one of the most important primary sources for the study of Norse mythology.

The poem is preserved whole in the Codex Regius and Hauksbók manuscripts while parts of it are quoted in the Prose Edda. It consists of approximately 60 fornyrðislag stanzas.
Hávamál

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Hávamál (English /ˈhaʊvəmaʊl/ how-və-mowl; English: Sayings of the high one) is presented as a single poem in the Poetic Edda, a collection of Old Norse poems from the Viking age. The poem, itself a combination of different poems, is largely gnomic, presenting advice for living, proper conduct and wisdom.

The verses are attributed to Odin, much like the biblical Book of Wisdom is attributed to Solomon. The implicit attribution to Odin facilitated the accretion of various mythological material also dealing with Odin.[1]

For the most part composed in the metre Ljóðaháttr, a metre associated with wisdom verse, Hávamál is both practical and metaphysical in content. Following the gnomic "Hávamál proper" follows the Rúnatal, an account of how Odin won the runes, and the Ljóðatal, a list of magic chants or spells
Vafþrúðnismál

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In Norse mythology, Vafþrúðnismál (Vafþrúðnir's sayings) is the third poem in the Poetic Edda. It is a conversation in verse form conducted initially between the Æsir Odin and Frigg, and subsequently between Odin and the giant Vafþrúðnir. The poem goes into detail about the Norse cosmogony and was evidently used extensively as a source document by Snorri Sturluson in the construction of the Prose Edda who quotes it. The poem is preserved in Codex Regius and partially in AM 748 I 4to. There are preservation problems relating to stanzas 40-41.
The English Version:

The Poetic Edda Index

The Latin Version:

Edda (fr)
poemas (es )

much you will learn and much you will understand...for we have discussed some of the patterns



hint: Hermes was the creator of the Harp

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.Othin spake: "Next answer me well, | if thy wisdom avails,
And thou knowest it, Vafthruthnir, now:
Whence came the moon, | o'er the world of men
That fares, and the flaming sun?"
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this was probably one of the most intriguing scifi book, read a while ago:

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American Gods is a Hugo and Nebula Award-winning[1] novel by Neil Gaiman. The novel is a blend of Americana, fantasy, and various strands of ancient and modern mythology, all centering on a mysterious and taciturn protagonist, Shadow. It is Gaiman's fourth prose novel, being preceded by Good Omens (a collaboration with Terry Pratchett), Neverwhere, and Stardust. Several of the themes touched upon in the book were previously glimpsed in The Sandman graphic novels.
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The central premise of the novel is that gods and mythological creatures exist because people believe in them. Immigrants to the United States brought with them dwarves, elves, leprechauns, and other spirits and gods. However, the power of these mythological beings has diminished as people's beliefs wane. New gods have arisen, reflecting America's obsessions with media, celebrity, technology, and drugs, among others.


on of the places mentioned in the Book are the Georgia Mountains


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Was just thinking about the word Sidonia as in

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydonia_(region_of_Mars)




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Cydonia is a region on the planet Mars, and has attracted both scientific[1] and popular interest.[2][3] The name originally referred to the albedo feature (distinctively coloured area) that was visible from Earthbound telescopes. The area borders plains of Acidalia Planitia and the Arabia Terra highlands.[4]

The area includes the Mars regions: "Cydonia Mensae", an area of flat-topped mesa-like features, "Cydonia Colles", a region of small hills or knobs, and "Cydonia Labyrinthus", a complex of intersecting valleys.[5][6] As with other albedo features on Mars, the name Cydonia was drawn from classical antiquity, in this case from Kydonia, a historic polis (or "city-state") on the island of Crete.[7]

Cydonia contains the "face on Mars" feature — located about half-way between Arandas Crater and Bamberg Crater[4] The ESA "skull" formation is a few kilometres south of the "face".[4]
Here is a Town of great interest:

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Medina-Sidonia is a city and municipality in the province of Cádiz in the autonomous community of Andalusia, southern Spain. It is considered by some to be the oldest city in Europe, used as a military defense location due to its elevated location. Locals are known as Asidonenses. The city's name comes from Medina (Arabic for city) and Sidonia (of Sidon), meaning "City of Sidon".

Medina-Sidonia was one of Spain's most important ducal seats in the 15th century; producing an admiral, Alonso Pérez de Guzmán, 7th Duke of Medina Sidonia, who led the Spanish Armada against England in 1588. The title of Duque de Medina Sidonia was bestowed upon the family of Guzmán El Bueno for his valiant role in taking the town. The line continues and was led until March 2008 by the controversial socialist, Luisa Isabel Álvarez de Toledo, 20th Duchess of Medina Sidonia (born 1936).


TURISMO SOSTENIBLE EN LOS ALCORNOCALES

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Amongst its innumerable monuments, of note are: the Roman Archaeological Complex (Sewers and Road), the Visigoth Hermitage of Los Santos, the Town Hall (XVII c.), the Market Square (XIXc.); its churches and convents, such as the gothic-renaissance style “Iglesia Mayor” (High Church) and the Monastery of San José del Cuervo; the Walls and Doors of the Muslim town; the ruins of the Castle and Old Town; and the Torrestrella Castle, amongst many others dispersed throughout its vast district.

Considered to be one of the most beautiful villages in Spain, Medina Sidonia is also a paradise of tranquility, where you can escape from the world and come into complete contact with nature, between both the Cádiz countryside and the Alcornocales Natural Park.
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Puerta del Sol (Door of the Sun)

It is one of the oldest doors in the town. Its name is due to the fact that it faces the same direction as the rays of sunshine at dawn. It is located behind that which, in its time, was the Ducal Palace of the Medina Sidonia.
Castle of Torrestrella

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Ruins of an Arabic castle, it was called Medina Sidonia up to the creation of the Santa María Military Order of Spain. At this point it was donated to the latter with the name of Estrella (Star) (aka Astarte / Ishtar ).
Astarte was connected with fertility, sexuality, and war. Her symbols were the lion, the horse, the sphinx, the dove, and a star within a circle indicating the planet Venus. .

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Church of Santa María la Mayor (Church of Santa Maria Superior)

Church of Santa Maria Superior, the Crowned, belongs to the gothic-renaissance period of the XVI century. Most noteworthy are its altarpiece, from the Baroque, and the engraving of the Christ of Forgiveness by Pedro Roldán.
It was declared a Historical Artistic Monument in June of 1931.
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Carmelite Monastery of San José del Cuervo

It is a building of great dimensions, located right in the Alcornocales Natural Park, in Sierra Blanquilla, and it is surrounded by cliffs and cork oak groves, which lends it great beauty.


Bandera de Medina / Medina Flag



Escudo Medina / Seal



(Lancelot anyone )

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Lancelot (father of Galahad )[5] is the son of King Ban of Benwick (or Benoic) and Elaine.[6] While Lancelot is an infant, his father is driven from his kingdom, seen in Britain, by his enemy Claudas de la Deserte.[7] Ban and Elaine flee, carrying the child with them. As Elaine is tending to her wounded husband, Lancelot is carried off by the Lady of the Lake who raises the child in her magical kingdom. It is from this upbringing that Lancelot earns the surname, du lac
The Cydonia region of Mars (see Figure 1) is located at 41° north latitude, 10° west longitude on the red planet. and was surveyed by the Viking Satellite

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The Anglo Saxons were in Morocco and Spain too ... The Vandal Empire

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the following is going to be fun ...........found this book :

Full text of "Mysterious Morocco, and how to appreciate it"

the following is applicable to many themes of our Discussion:

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Introductory Remarks.

ALTHOUGH this brief epitome of Moorish
history runs to 40 pages, the space occupied
is not excessive. It is true of most
countries that you cannot understand to-day unless
you know something of yesterday,
and this truth
applies with special force to Morocco, which
without some knowledge of its history would
be a hopeless enigma
.


The anecdotes inserted are intended not only
to lighten the narrative, but to illustrate present
Moorish life. The incidents in the flight of Idris I.,
the building of Fez, &c., might mutatis mutandis
happen to-day. The stories of Kahena and of
Zeinab will show that women's life in the East is
not the mere harem existence it is supposed to
be
.


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Historical Sketch.

CHAPTER I.
Early Days.

Legends. Ancient legends tell of Antaeus, the mighty

Giant son of Atlas, King of Mauretania
. The
monster killed all whom he could catch, to add
their skulls to a mound which he was raising in
honour of Neptune (which is none other than Poseidon God of Atlantis. Hercules destroyed him, and
the rocks which guard the Straits of Gibraltar are
known to this day as the " Pillars of Hercules."
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The Berbers claim for themselves descent from Goliath of Gath,
the Amalekite giant
who fell before the pebble of David, the shepherd
boy of Israel.
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In 424 A.D. we find Bonifacius, the Roman
Count (Comes) of Africa, inviting Genseric the
Goth to Morocco. These kinsmen of our own
Anglo-Saxons accepted the invitation to such
purpose as to form a Vandal Empire
which lasted
for about 80 years. Some ethnologists claim still to
recognise traces of the blood of the fair-haired blue-
eyed Goths amongst the mixed races of Morocco
.
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A Christian Hermit. Idris II. founds Fez.

On a fair hillside clothed in verdure and forest a
young Moorish noble is busying himself and a
few followers. It is February, in the year of
our Lord 808, and the country shows the tender
green due to the influence of spring. An old
hermit whose crucifix betokens his creed, and
whose solitude has been disturbed by the bustle,
asks him what he is doing. " Building a City
"
is the curious reply. The answer seems to
awaken th£ old man from the lethargy of age
and, " If this be so, O Emir, I have good tidings
for thee," quoth he. He then narrates how his
predecessor at the hermitage told him that a
city named "Sef" had been located there 1,700
years ago. The *' Book of Knowledge " of this
predecessor had also stated that "one day a son of
" the Prophets should come and rebuild, his name
" shall be Idris, and his achievements great : he
" shall plant Islam here, and it shall endure for
"ever." "Praised be God," said Idris, and starts
digging the foundations of Fez.
a mystic indeed

now this is interesting:

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Decline of ^"^ ^^ ^^^ famous words of the great French

Idrisi detective Lecoq is " Cherchez la Femme (find the woman )" and you'll find the

Dynasty,
certainly the mot seems applicable to the fall of

dynasties. Yahya the second (fifth in the line

from Idris) " was a man of depraved morals, and

" violated a pretty Jewess named Hanyna" (Roudh

El Kmtas). This rape cost Yahya his life and his

it The family their throne by starting a series of insur-

Stranger." rections which finally ended the dynasty. Soon

one, surnamed ** The Stranger," arose, established

himself in the mountains, and captured part of

Fez.
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here is an interesting Family:

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The Glories of Empire.

Origin of Again the change of dynasty had its origin in
Almohade a religious *' Revival." A desert Berber tribe
Power, inflamed with reforming zeal, rushed upon the
settled kingdom and subjugated it. Mohammed,
son of Tumart, the originator of the movement,
was a man of mark. He was originally a poor
student who visited the East and acquired a

reputation for sanctity.* As a mystic reverenced
under the title of " Mehdi " {the directed of God) he
found refuge in the Atlas Mountains not far
from Marrakesh, and passed on his mission to
Abd-el-Mumin, who took the Southern capital by
force of arms in 1 147-8 a.d. Abd-el-Mumin is the
favourite hero of Moorish history
. He was a
great horseman, his skin was white and cheeks
ruddy, his eyes dark and his beard thick. He
was learned in " the Law and the Prophets " and
a devoted lover of poetry. But, above all, he
was a great administrator, and passed on an
organized Empire to his descendants.!

It was in his time that Sicily was ruled by Norman
Counts, and the tivo Rogers, father and son, were men
of great ability. They took Algeria, Tunis and Tripoli,
and would have carried their conquests furthey\ (says
the Arab historian) but for a quarrel which resulted in
war with the Byzantine Emperor, whom they defeated
and bearded in Constantinople.

* He was not particular as to the means. When he was beaten, he
got some friends to allow themselves to be buried alive with breathing
boles arranged. At night be took his followers to the battlefield and
addressed questions to the faithful dead. He was answered by his
confederates who told of the glories of Paradise. When the dupes had
gone, he buried his friends in real earnest. " Dead men tell no tales."

t One of the towns re-established by Abd el Mumin was Mequinez
(iijo A.D.), and the water supply of Sallee was laid on by him. He also
built the castle at Gibraltar (1161 (HM 9 ) a.d.).

J After the death of the second Roger, his son Gregory lost Algeria
and Tunis to Abd el Mumin, who thus extended his Empire till it
included Spain and the whole cf North Africa.


Abd-el-Mumin's son, Abou Yakoub Yussef, who
succeeded him (1163) was a great student,* and
administrator, who would be better known to
history, but for his eclipse by his more famous
brother '• El Mansur."

The greatest of this family was Abou Yussef
Yacoub,
who is usually known emphatically as
" El Mansur " the Victorious (sometimes written
Almansor). He beat three Christian Kings
combined (Kings of Castille, Leon, and Aragon)
on the field of Alarcos (1195 a.d.).
the following made my heart skip a bit

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* Averroes / Avicenna, one of the most famous Muslim philosophers (his proper
name is Abu-'l-Welid-ibn-Roshd), was at one time imprisoned by him
because he wrote " Venus then is one of the Divinities "—a gloss on a
classical author. He was liberated afterwards on being better under-
stood and accompanied the succeeding monarch, El Mansur, as a
closa friend int« Morocco, where he died.
Ishtar





this is for my french speaking friends you 'll recognize it...and so the message ....Arcadia...when you were kids

GENERIQUE... les mondes engloutis - Vidéo Dailymotion

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by the way, if you read the Norse Poems it does Mention Giants

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Khalil Gibran and the Art of Giving:


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You say, “I give, but only to those who deserve it.” “Trees do not say that, nor do the flocks. They give so they can continue living; to retain is to die. He who is worthy to win God’s day and night is also worthy of getting everything he needs. He who deserves to drink from the ocean of life deserves to fill his bowl from the little stream..
Why demand that a man expose his heart and reveal his pride, so that you can decide whether he deserves help? Seek, rather, see if you deserve to. And you, who receives these things, do not assume any debt of gratitude, lest they create a loop domain with their benefactors. If we become too concerned with these debts, we will end up doubting the end of the generosity of the earth..


Thank you Z

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'Marsquake' May Have Shaken Up Red Planet | Mars History & Evolution | Mars Volcanism & Water on Mars | Space.com Date: 21 February 2012

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The surface of Mars appears to have been shaken by quakes relatively recently, hinting at the existence of active volcanoes and perhaps reservoirs of liquid water on the Red Planet, a new study suggests.

Using photographs snapped by NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, researchers analyzed the tracks made by boulders that fell from a Martian cliff. The number and size of these boulders — which ranged from 6.5 to 65 feet (2 to 20 meters) in diameter — decreased over a radius of 62 miles (100 kilometers) from a point along Mars' Cerberus Fossae faults.

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