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. Remember that if death is at one end of the spectrum then life is at the other end. .
Now you are seeing it

also applicable to physical properties see my latest post on Harvesting Energy From the Sun Using Crystals

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That is brilliant but of course it would have to be a deep infrared laser probably around 850-950 nanometers. But it should theoretically work. Remember that if death is at one end of the spectrum then life is at the other end. Notice that the cell in the picture is resonant to infrared. And that blood itself is deep red at about the color of 680nanometers. And this is why often times people use heat lamps to induce healing and reduce swelling. Or use Infrared or deep red lasers or LED's to do the same. But is could be the greatest of healing discoveries for generations. You should suggest it to doctors to try. This is truely polarity at its best. Now I do not feel like such an Oger.
It is open to all, you could try this yourself on sick plants or seeds..

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I got the source

Sam L. LEACH

Apparatus for Powerful Energy Transfer Technique

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Abstract --- In addition to the apparatus disclosed in the prior patent applications of which this application is a continuation-in-part, a reaction chamber is provided with mercury vapor quartz discharge lamps. In close proximity to the lamps are spheres, or thin continuous wires, or filaments or other physical configurations of laser-type material which produce relatively coherent radiation in a manner similar to lasers. The spheres or filaments include concentric partially reflective surfaces, and include an active material which is pumped by the efficient spectral radiation of the mercury vapor, and radiates at a frequency or frequencies matched to the absorption characteristics of the feedstock being fed through the reaction chamber. The laser-type material may be operated to produce output radiation at a harmonic, such as the second, third, fourth or higher harmonic of the basic laser radiation, and these harmonic output radiations may be enhanced by using semi-reflective coatings which reflect in the order of 70% to 90% of the radiation, particularly in the case of spheres (and probably egg shaped too ). High energy content ultraviolet radiation may also be generated by the "beating" of radiant energy from the mercury vapor tubes and the laser-type material. Efficiency is enhanced by chain reactions which occur with the feedstock materials being fed to the reaction chamber, and these chain reactions involve the generation and regeneration of excited atoms of oxygen or other substances.
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Otto Rahn -- "Invisible Radiations of Organisms" -- Mitogenic Radiation

Invisible Radiations of Organisms

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1. Forward / Contents

2. Physics of Radiation
3. Sources of Radiant Energy
4. Effect of UV Light upon Cells
5. Methods of Observing Biological Radiations
6. Special Characteristics of Biological Radiations
7. Analysis of the Motogenic Effect
8. Significance of Biological Radiations in Biology, Medicine & Agriculture
9. Outlook / Summary / Author Index / Subject Index
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Gordon DOUGAL

Infrared Therapy
A method of cosmetically treating skin using electromagnetic radiation with a wavelength between 900nm and 1500nm
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Check out page 18 of Otto Rahn -- "Invisible Radiations of Organisms"

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Below 1900 Angs absorption by quartz, water and air interferes with the experiment'
absorption is what we want...No

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even simpler http://rexresearch.com/rahn/rahn3.pdf on page 5

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The same authors found that even the dissolution of NaCl
in water produces & growth-stimulating radiation (Table 14) This
energy emission occurs only during the act oI dissolving ; it- ceases
completely when all the salt i8 in solution' No effect is noticeable
when sugar is dissolved in water, or when palmitic acid is dissolved
in alcohol. Wolff and Ras concluded therefore that the process
of dissociation of salt into ions is the source of ultraviolet'
truly this document is full of info that could be applied to the rest of the Electromagnetic Spectrum (principle of correspondence )
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And your best set up, replicated and one of the person who started me on this path:

Leon SPRINK Space Activator

Leon Sprink -- Space Activator

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In the simplest form of the invention, Sprink used a grounded container placed in an electrostatic field. More control and power was obtained with geometric arrays of positive electrodes mounted diagonally from grounded electrodes. The form (e.g., a cube or Quartz) was mounted upright and aligned East-West. 1000 to 5000 KV of positive charge (per meter of electrode separation) (replaced by pulsed UV light's)was applied for two weeks or longer to establish a zone of activation, spreading up to 60 meters.

Large units also allegedly demonstrated "anti-gravitational" effects, and ultraviolet light became visible in the diagonals between the electrodes.(reverse that when using UV Light, principle of polarity ) Sprink called them “St. Andreas crosses”. By varying the position or form of the apparatus, various effects were obtained, “such as speeding up, stabilization, or alteration, in the change of state of matter”. The electrodes are “arranged in couples and distributed along the diagonal lines of geometric figures such as square, rectangles, rhombi, cubes, prisms, etc.” Rectified AC may be used.

Sprink’s associate Jacques Ravatin received French Patent # 2,421,531 for his similar “Apparatus for Amplifying Emissions Due to Shapes... The apparatus comprises a polygonal frame with sixteen sides, with four electrodes to generate a very high electric field inside the frame . After half an hour, effects on certain physical parameters occur within a radius of several tens of meters : action on the earth magnetic field, the gravitation, the air refraction index, the speed of plant growth, etc...
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In relations to this post: http://www.energeticforum.com/152806-post113.html

text book values of various dielectric materials

Table of dielectric constants.

quartz 3.8
water 76.5 to 80

a funny thing i noticed about : Quartz Dielectric constant value 3.8

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there is a wealth of data that could be extrapolated from the socionomics documents into applications for Ethericity, such as the 62% / 38% ratio constantly found in the research they conducted (starts at 42 min )


62% and 38%




if i follow the logic, next is 95%

also from the doc

it takes 3 waves to make a variation


If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.
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A comment i would like to add to the following quote:

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he established the spectral boundaries more accurately - 190-330 nm, while the average rate estimated at 300-1000 photons / s per square centimeter. In other words, mitogenetic radiation, open Gurvich, represented the middle and near ultraviolet light of extremely low intensity.
if living cell are o affected by "the middle and near ultraviolet light of extremely low intensity" then through the principle of polarity a crystal would then more likely be affected by the middle and far ultraviolet light of extremely high intensity, (see post The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism )

what do you guys think of this
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Thomas H. Moray: Transmutation of Low Grade Ores by High Energy Bombardment

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Where the dielectric 16 is not a closed tube or envelope, it is preferred that it be of quartz.
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Other types of germicidal and discharge tubes may be sued in place of the tube of Figures 8, 9, and 10, as for instance the well known infrared and ultraviolet lamps, to produce results surpassing those ordinarily attained by the use of such lamps apart from the apparatus of the invention.
and i think Moray used the principle I enunciated earlier based on Leon SPRINK Space Activator

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And i Have the formula to calculate ....energy needed

the Allometric Scaling Laws / Allometry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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A General Model for the Origin of Allometric Scaling Laws in Biology

We show how these general constraints explain quarter power scaling and lead to a quantitative, predictive theory that captures many of the essential features of diverse biological systems. Examples considered include animal circulatory systems, plant vascular systems, growth, mitochondrial densities, and the concept of a universal molecular clock. Temperature considerations, dimensionality and the role of invariants are discussed. Criticisms and controversies associated with this approach are also addressed.
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Thank you Slider, we'll be looking forward to reading your results

------you guys are going to like this:

Russian scientists announced a sensational discovery at a press conference in Moscow today (July 26).

A group of scientists supervised by the director of the Volgograd Institute on the study of materials, under the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, Academician Valerian Sobolev, have discovered a new substances that can serve as a principally new, autonomous source of energy.

The new non-chemical "battery" is made from sand and gets its energy from the Earth's magnetic fields. What is particularly important that the installation producing energy is relatively cheap.

According to the academician, this discovery is of tremendous significance today. Using a stripping process, quartz, i.e., sand is transformed into a special substance that looks like blue crystals. This substance is used for making a special installation that scientists view as a stable and very powerful source of energy.

Russian scientists have been working on the new sour! ce of energy together with Americans (the group includes 11 Russians and one American). Some experiments are conducted at Columbia University, but the majority of tests (running into hundreds) are done in Russia and it will get the patent.

MonsieurM,

Remember reading years ago Wilhelm Reich did some experiments with sand (quartz) and placing it in a sock then repeatedly boiling and freezing. In a dark room you could see it glow blue. Believe he referred to it as bions or orgone becoming visible. Maybe someone can locate the exact procedures for the experiment?

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Leon Sprink -- Space Activator



Principle of Correspondence, and you have a set up

This is amazing news. I would imagine if they used a different geometric shape such as this one minus the 369 grey they would discover the power of 369.
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the Allometric Scaling Laws / Allometry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



A General Model for the Origin of Allometric Scaling Laws in Biology

pretty cool.
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if living cell are o affected by "the middle and near ultraviolet light of extremely low intensity" then through the principle of polarity a crystal would then more likely be affected by the middle and far ultraviolet light of extremely high intensity, (see post The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism )

what do you guys think of this
It's a possibility and wouldn't hurt to try. I say it's a great starting point if not the answer.
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text book values of various dielectric materials

Table of dielectric constants.

quartz 3.8
water 76.5 to 80

a funny thing i noticed about : Quartz Dielectric constant value 3.8


A Fractal Application to society

It is further shown that the Bernal–Fowler–Pauling ice-rules model of ice behaves like a dielectric material, and matching the results of calculations on this model to experiment gives a dipole moment of 3.0 D.

frozen water and quartz have nearly the same dielectric constant.
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It is further shown that the Bernal–Fowler–Pauling ice-rules model of ice behaves like a dielectric material, and matching the results of calculations on this model to experiment gives a dipole moment of 3.0 D.

frozen water and quartz have nearly the same dielectric constant.

Based on what you just said if we find a way to excite quartz, there is a way to excite certain type of ice (those with close geometric similarities to quartz

we are converging... and this is good news, it means we are on the right track

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MonsieurM,

Remember reading years ago Wilhelm Reich did some experiments with sand (quartz) and placing it in a sock then repeatedly boiling and freezing. In a dark room you could see it glow blue. Believe he referred to it as bions or orgone becoming visible. Maybe someone can locate the exact procedures for the experiment?

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i will look for it...
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Shawn, guys, have you seen this 9 min vid on the vedas (i know i talked about it earlier) this is one more i recommend you watch, at least the first 5 min

Greatness Of The Vedic Vedas Knowledge Perfect Science Part 3 of 6 - YouTube

please do comment on it, because it would help us in choosing the right source of light (i root for Pulsed High intensity UV light )

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Method for biological activation of inorganic materials, e.g. calcium carbonate, useful to provide products for e.g. improving plant growth, or as a feed additive, comprises the use of radiation from an orgone chamber
Inventor: BARTH ADALBERT
2003-08-14
Abstract -- A method for biological activation of inorganic materials (I) involves applying radiation from an orgone chamber onto a metal surface and placing the mineral material (I) under the surface at a pre-determined spacing, so that (I) is subjected to the effects emanating from the orgone chamber and the metal surface. An Independent claim is also included for an orgone chamber for carrying out the process, comprising a vertical hollow body (preferably of square, rectangular or round cross-section) with: (1) vertical walls consisting of an inner electrically conductive layer (preferably of steel sheet) and an outer non-conductive layer; (2) a closed base consisting of a film or sheet (preferably of aluminum, as information matrix); and (3) a closed top consisting of a combination of layers as in (a), covered with a layer or quartz sand.
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so what if Orgone was plain 3D electromagnetic field

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Phospholuminescent Glow Sheets

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Here is an item that may be of assistance to help visualize the energy:

PHOSPHOLUMINESCENT GLOW SHEETS
GLOW IN THE DARK TAPES AND SHEETS

Full sheets of glow-in-the-dark material measuring 12"x 12" square. It can be used as-is, stuck to a wall or metal plate, or easily cut into long strips with scissors or a paper-cutter following the observational protocol given below. Several sheets can also be assembled together to make an entire "glowing wall" for visualization of the human energy field.
Price: $23.95 per square foot sheet (12" x 12")

Visualizing the Orgone Energy in a Darkroom

by James DeMeo, Ph.D.
Director, Orgone Biophysical Research Lab
Ashland Oregon USA

The following describes a simple experiment to observe orgone energy in a darkroom. We routinely make this demonstration to students and professional visitors to our laboratory, inside the Orgone Energy Darkroom. But an orgone energy darkroom is not necessary. An ordinary darkened room will do, if care is taken. The experimenter should firstly read Wilhelm Reich's accounts of this phenomenon as given in his book The Cancer Biopathy which is available from our bookstore and from libraries.

Necessary Equipment:
* Steel sheet metal measuring 1 foot square, or 1 x 2 foot, about 26 gauge galvanized steel.
* One or more reels of 0.5" width glow tape, or one reel of 1" width glow tape.
* A small quantity of standard heavy duct tape.

Firstly, by our information this glow-in-the-dark material does not appear to have any "lifetime", so long as you put it where it will not be physically damaged. It should retain the ability to absorb light and then glow in the dark almost forever, though expect the viny material to begin degrading over time if you expose the material to sunlight or moisture.

To use this glow material to help observe the moving orgone in a darkroom, you firstly must secure a darkroom! A closet would do, but better to have some enclosed space where there is air ventillation, as you will need to sit there for upwards of 30 minutes or more, and all light as from windows must be closed off. This can be done in both daytime or nighttime, though daytime is more demanding to seal off windows and other stray light sources. Even at night, stray light creeping under doors or in *****s of windows from city lights or other parts of your home might be sufficient to overwhelm the effect, so firstly getting a really dark room is important. Set it up with a comfortable chair as you will need to sit in this dark environment for maybe 20-30 minutes, to allow your eyes to "dark adjust".

Once you have found such a dark room and sat in it to adjust your eyes, even with a tiny, tiny amount of light creeping in, many people observe the orgone energy quite spontaneously. It appears as a slowly moving dull-grey fog or as tiny moving points of light. If you observe this phenomenon against a checkerboard or pin-stripe background of high contrast, such as alternating patterns of black and white, it helps enhance the effect. Our glow-tapes and sheets are used to enhance this natural effect even moreso.

Using the glow tapes, you can make an "array" of parallel strips of tape separated about the same width of the tape, and lay them out on a flat piece of metal (the metal also enhances the orgone energy effects). Get a sheet of metal perhaps 1' square, standard 26 or 28 gauge galvanized steel as from a sheet-metal shop will do. Wash it clean of oils and allow to dry. It helps to add a strip of duct tape along the metal edges, to prevent cutting your hands during handling.

From one package of the 0.5" x 48" glow tape, you can make 6 strips of tape 8" in length. Lay the strips out near the center of the metal plate in parallel rows separated by around 0.5 inch. You will then have an array of the tape strips separated by equal widths without the tape. You can make an array to nearly fill the sheet metal piece by using more of the tape strips. The tape measuring 1" width is more economical, but to do the job right, it might be necessary to cut it down with scissors to the 0.5" width. A larger metal sheet measuring 1' x 2' is even better, but obviously requires more tape. At our lab, we have several of 1 x 2 foot metal sheets prepared like this, using 1.5- or 2-foot strips of the tape, and the effects are quite spectacular as enhanced inside our orgone energy darkroom. Similar effects are possible in an ordinary darkroom, but if you have an orgone energy accumulator or orgone blanket, you can place that near to the metal sheet with the tape to also enhance the effect. The large sheets of glow material can also be used for this same purpose, and you can then lay opaque shadowing materials on top of it, to yield up similar high-contrast patterns. It is useful for a variety of experimental purposes.

Just prior to running your visualization experiment, expose the metal sheet and tape strips to an ordinary houselamp or strong flashlight beam. Then take it into the darkroom and settle down. Almost immediately, you will observe the tape glowing brightly in the dark room, such that you can see around the room without any other source of light. This will become more apparent as your eyes adjust to the dark. Eventually, the glow tape will start to lose its energy, and the glow will start to dim. At this point, you will observe more and more movement around the glow tape, and the entire room will fill with motion that previously was not apparent to you. When the glow tape is very dim, and the metal sheet with the array held off at around 3 foot distance (one meter) you will see a tremendous agitation and motion of the energy, moving between the dark and lighter areas of the tape array. It is a motion which occurrs just above the tape array, not "in the tape", which you can confirm by looking at the array held flat to your line of vision. The movement jumps off the metal sheet, and towards it, being made visible by the dull light of the glowing tape. At this point, you can also use a magnifying glass to verify that the phenomenon can be magnified -- this proves it is "out there" and not some optical illusion. Best to use a large diameter magnifying glass where both eyes can be used at once.

Using the larger glow sheets, you can also cut them into strips, or any shape you wish, to reproduce the above observations, or just use the glow sheet without modification. You can also assemble several glow sheets into a large array -- for example ten or twelve such sheets, organized to make an array measuring 3 foot-squares horizontally and 4 foot-squares vertically, will virtually cover a large section of wall. The material can then be activated with a strong light, and then a person can stand in front of the glowing material as it slowly dissipates, to visualize the human energy field. This can also be done with even one of the squares, to visualize the field around a hand or smaller object, but it becomes more dramatic with the larger array of material.

At OBRL we are today experimenting with specialized very low-light videocameras to document these interesting phenomenon.

Happy Observing!
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Experimental Confirmation Of The Reich Orgone Accumulator Thermal Anomaly

EXPERIMENTAL CONFIRMATION
OF THE REICH ORGONE
ACCUMULATOR THERMAL ANOMALY



REICH’S DISCOVERY OF THE ORGONE,
AND EXPERIMENTAL CONFIRMATIONS
The discovery of the orgone was claimed by Reich
originally as a sensible bioelectrical current which moved
along the skin surface during states of emotional and
sexual excitation.1 His later work examining biological
excitation in single-cell microorganisms demonstrated
a similar sensible, but also visible and photographable
blue-glowing energy-field emitted by special microspheroid
vesicles derived from crushed beach sand
heated to red-hot incandescence, and then quickly
plunged into sterile nutrient solutions.2 He
documented various protocellular life-like forms by
both heating and freezing of preparations.2,3 Reich’s
blue-glowing vesicles were around 1 micron, and could
be observed and photographed in the light
microscope
.3,4,7,8 He called these vesicles the bions, and
given their pulsatory movements and culturability,
considered them to be a transitional entity between
living and non-living matter.2,3,4,7 His now-validated
experiments on this subject predate and anticipated
similar findings on the development of life-like microspheroid
vesicles produced under conditions of heating
and/or freezing some 30 years later by scientists such as
Bahadur, Carnes-Smith, and Fox.5 The existence of
thermophillic microbes as from deep-sea hydrothermal
vents or hot springs, which today stand at the cuttingedge
of research on the “origins of life” question, were
anticipated by Reich’s early experiments. The
therapeutic value of natural hot springs, which are
typically enriched with mineral vesicles, is fully
accepted by folk medicine and natural-oriented
physicians as having healing properties similar to what
Reich previously documented with the radiating bions.
Reich’s findings on the bions were originally replicated
by Roger duTeil and they jointly communicated the
findings to the French Academy of Sciences in 1938.6
However, Reich’s bion discovery remained relatively
unknown and unacknowledged due to the events of
World War II and the Vichy take-over in France,
particularly given his public anti-Nazi writings. He
came to the USA in 1939, just ahead of the Nazi
invasion of Norway.
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Shawn, guys, have you seen this 9 min vid on the vedas (i know i talked about it earlier) this is one more i recommend you watch, at least the first 5 min

Greatness Of The Vedic Vedas Knowledge Perfect Science Part 3 of 6 - YouTube

please do comment on it, because it would help us in choosing the right source of light (i root for Pulsed High intensity UV light )

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A Survey Of Laser Lightning Rod Techniques:

http://www.teslaradio.com/pages/AD-A239_988.pdf

The concept of using a laser to create an ionized path in the atmosphere to act as a lightning rod is not new. Over the past four decades since the invention of the laser, there have been many documented investigations into the ionization of atmospheric gasses with an eye towards creating a laser lightning rod. Initial experimental attempts using lasers operating in the IR were not successful. Although some ionization was attained, it was found that the laser beam was selfquenching so that distances of only tens of meters were obtained in the atmosphere near sea level...

The laser is in the UV range.

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I posted this a while back:

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A plasma antenna is a type of radio antenna currently in development in which plasma is used instead of the metal elements of a traditional antenna.[1] A plasma antenna can be used for both transmission and reception.[2] Although plasma antennas have only become practical in recent years, the idea is not new; a patent for an antenna using the concept was granted to J Hettinger in 1919.[3]. A recent book (see reference 9 below) titled "Plasma Antennas", authored by Dr. Theodore (Ted) Anderson ( anderdrted@aol.com; 518-409-1010 USA number) and published in 2011 by Artech House covers plasma antennas comprehensively. The link for this book is: Plasma Antennas Early practical examples of the technology used discharge tubes to contain the plasma and are referred to as ionized gas plasma antennas.[1] Solid state plasma antennas (also known as plasma silicon antennas) with steerable directional functionality that can be manufactured using standard silicon chip fabrication techniques are now also in development.[4] Plasma silicon antennas are candidates for use in WiGig (the planned enhancement to Wi-Fi), and have other potential applications, for example in reducing the cost of vehicle-mounted radar collision avoidance systems.
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Shawn, guys, have you seen this 9 min vid on the vedas (i know i talked about it earlier) this is one more i recommend you watch, at least the first 5 min

Greatness Of The Vedic Vedas Knowledge Perfect Science Part 3 of 6 - YouTube

please do comment on it, because it would help us in choosing the right source of light ( root for Pulsed High intensity UV light )

Are you suggesting that pulsed UV will cause the water in the quartz to 'shine'?
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MonsieurM,

A Survey Of Laser Lightning Rod Techniques:

http://www.teslaradio.com/pages/AD-A239_988.pdf

The concept of using a laser to create an ionized path in the atmosphere to act as a lightning rod is not new. Over the past four decades since the invention of the laser, there have been many documented investigations into the ionization of atmospheric gasses with an eye towards creating a laser lightning rod. Initial experimental attempts using lasers operating in the IR were not successful. Although some ionization was attained, it was found that the laser beam was selfquenching so that distances of only tens of meters were obtained in the atmosphere near sea level...

The laser is in the UV range.

I had started a thread but it did not generate any interest:

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Well this obviously shows the answer to the Indiana Boys about their question. This would absolutely ionize a distance of 12 inches given the right intensity and wavelength. So if these researchers were using UV lasers in an attempt to ionize water, basically splitting water into itnto basic elements of alkaline and acid fractions, therfore causing a path of least resistance for lightening to travel to the ground then this shows potential of using a UV laser, if pointed toward a water pocket, to draw energy from a charged crystal but only if the crystal has a tendency to naturally, chemically, etc draw the bound/stored electicity toward the water that is trapped within. If the water is a focal point for the electricity to draw toward, sort of like rain falling into a funnel and centralizing at the bottom, then yes this will certainly work. However, I wonder what would happen if it actually worked. Imagine if scientist succeed in drawing down a lightening bolt using a laser, bang, and a split second later, no more laser, unless the laser were surrounded by very tall lightening rods. So my suggestion would be to shoot a laser through a hollow rod of aluminum and place the aluminum against/ near the crystal to draw the electricity away from the laser beam. And sure, let's try UV first.
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Here's a thought of a low level cascade effect. Use tungsten wiring , connected to a solar panel as the source of electricity. The tungsten heating element hits the quartz which turns the energy into infrared light, which is absorbed into the solar panel and perpetualtes in a circle. Of course this will not work due to energy level requirements to energize the tugsten but i thought it might trigger other trains of thought that might work. WHo knows?
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sorry, i have a bad connectio today, will be fixed tmrw
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Are you suggesting that pulsed UV will cause the water in the quartz to 'shine'?
does singing bowl ring a bell (pun intended )
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