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let me first finish reading the Kybalion...almost done

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"Everything is Dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites; like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled."
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As I read the Kybalion, i'll post a few comments

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Scientists have offered the illustration of a rapidly moving wheel, top, or cylinder, to show the effects of increasing rates of vibration. The illustration supposes a wheel, top, or revolving cylinder, running at a low rate of speed-we will call this revolving thing "the object" in following out the illustration. Let us suppose the object moving slowly. It may be seen readily, but no sound of its movement reaches the ear. The speed is gradually increased. In a few moments its movement becomes so rapid that a deep growl or low note may be heard. Then as the rate is increased the note rises one in the musical scale. Then the motion being still further increased, the next highest note is distinguished. Then one after another, all the notes of the musical scale appear, all the notes of the musical scale appear, rising higher and higher as the motion is increased. Finally when the motions have reached a certain rate the final note perceptible to human ears is reached and the shrill, piercing shriek dies away, and silence follows.

No sound is heard from the revolving object, the rate of motion being so high that the human ear cannot register the vibrations. Then comes the perception of rising degrees of Heat. Then after quite a time the eye catches a glimpse of the object becoming a dull dark reddish color. As the rate increases, the red becomes blefter. Then as the speed is increased, the red melts into an orange. Then the orange melts into a yellow. Then follow, successively, the shades of green, blue, indigo, and finally violet, as the rate of speed increases. Then the violet shades away, and all color disappears, the human eye not being able to register them. But there are invisible rays emanating from the revolving object, the rays that are used in photographing, and other subtle rays of light. Then begin to manifest the peculiar rays known as the "X-Rays," etc., as the constitution of the object changes. Electricity and Magnetism are emitted when the appropriate rate of vibration is attained.

When the object reaches a certain rate of vibration its molecules disintegrate, and resolve themselves into the original elements or atoms. Then the atoms, following the Principle of Vibration, are separated into the countless corpuscles of which they are composed. And finally, even the corpuscles disappear and the object may be said to be composed of The Ethereal Substance. Science does not dare to follow the illustration further, but the Hermetists teach that if the vibrations be continually increased the object would mount up the successive states of manifestation and would in turn manifest the various mental stages, and then on Spiritward, until it would finally re-enter THE ALL, which is Absolute Spirit.
------- compare the above text to the following one

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If you place an iron rod in a dark room and cause it to vibrate at first you'll only be able to tell it is vibrating by touching it.

Increasing the vibration to 32Hz will produce a loud and shrill sound and vibration can now be detected by both touch and hearing. Increase that vibration to 40Hz and you can no longer detect the vibration by touch or sound.

If you increase the vibration to 1.5MHz you cannot feel or hear the vibration but you can detect the vibration though the rise in temperature in the iron first warm and then the iron rod will glow red hot and can be detected by sight.

At 3MHz the rod is now producing violet light; increasing the vibration more will produce ultra-violet rays and other invisible radiations that can only be detected by special instruments.

There are so many "vibrations" flowing all around us that are invisible to our 5 senses who can tell how they affect us. Uranium emits and invisible radiation that will kill you. You cannot see it but it is there and kills. Who is to say how the other radiation affects the body and mind.

Isn't it possible that the mind radiates its own wireless transmissions that are received by other minds but we just are unaware of that as of yet. There is no scientific proof for or against this theory, yet so many people will just to the conclusion that it cannot exist. There are among the same people that would have disbelieved radio existed before it was proven that is does exist.

You MUST keep an open mind and use these methods as those successful have already used them to achieve success. Who are you willing to believe, those who have not succeeded or those who have?
Dr. Alexander Graham Bell

want to know how vast the electromagnetic spectrum is , Richard Hammonds does an excellent presentation (starts at 10 min):

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it is not actually "resolved" into those forms of energy (which are much higher in the scale), but simply that it reaches a degree of vibration in which those forms of energy are liberated, in a degree, from the confining influences of its molecules, atoms and corpuscles, as the case may be. These forms of energy, although much higher in the scale than matter, are imprisoned and confined in the material combinations
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the wonderful phenomena of the power manifested by the Masters and Adepts, who are able to apparently set aside the Laws of Nature, but who, in reality, are simply using one law against another; one principle against others; and who accomplish their results by changing the vibrations of material objects, or forms of' energy, and thus perform what are commonly called "miracles."
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: "He who understands the Principle of Vibration, has grasped the sceptre of Power."
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Where you find one thing you find its opposite-the two poles.
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Things belonging to different classes cannot be transmuted into each other, but things of the same class may be changed, that is, may have their polarity changed. ( ex:leedskalnin)
Thus Love never becomes East or West, or Red or Violet-but it may and often does turn into Hate-and likewise Hate may be transformed into Love, by changing its polarity. Courage may be transmuted into Fear, and the reverse. Hard things may be rendered Soft. Dull things become Sharp. Hot things become Cold. And so on
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And it will also be noticed that even to those unfamiliar with the Principle of Vibration, the Positive pole seems to be of a higher degree than the Negative, and readily dominates it. The tendency of Nature is in the direction of the dominant activity of the Positive pole. (see http://www.energeticforum.com/151657-post326.html )
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the Principle of Rhythm :There is always an action and reaction; an advance and a retreat; a rising and a sinking; manifested in all of the airs and phenomena of the Universe. Suns, worlds, men, animals, plants, minerals, forces, energy, mind and matter, yes, even Spirit, manifests this Principle.
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The Principle of Rhythm (ex: pulse generator ) is closely connected with the Principle of Polarity described in the preceding chapter. Rhythm manifests between the two poles established by the Principle of Polarity. This does not mean, however, that the pendulum of Rhythm swings to the extreme poles, for this rarely happens; in fact, it is difficult to establish the extreme polar opposites in the majority of cases. But the swing is ever "toward" first one pole and then the other.
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The Principle of Cause and Effect underlies all scientific thought, ancient and modern, and was enunciated by the Hermetic Teachers in the earliest days. While many and varied disputes between the many schools of thought have since arisen, these disputes have been principally upon the details of the operations of the Principle, and still more often upon the meaning of certain words. The underlying Principle Cause and Effect has been accepted as correct by practically all the thinkers of the world worthy of the name. To think otherwise would be to take the phenomena of the universe from the domain of Law and Order, and to relegate it to the control of the imaginary something which men have called "Chance." ( ex: Butterfly effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )

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The office of Gender is solely that of creating, producing, generating, etc., and its manifestations are visible on every plane of phenomena. It is somewhat difficult to produce proofs of this along scientific lines, for the reason that science has not as yet recognized this Principle as of universal application. But still some proofs are forthcoming from scientific sources. In the first place, we find a distinct manifestation of the Principle of Gender among the corpuscles, ions, or electrons, which constitute the basis of Matter as science now knows the latter, and which by forming certain combinations form the Atom, which until lately was regarded as final and indivisible.
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The latest word of science is that the atom is composed of a multitude of corpuscles, electrons, or ions (the various names being applied by different authorities) revolving around each other and vibrating at a high degree and intensity. But the accompanying statement is made that the formation of the atom is really due to the clustering of negative corpuscles around a positive one-the positive corpuscles seeming to exert a certain influence upon the negative corpuscles, causing the latter to assume certain combinations and thus "create" "birth" an atom (ex: Protons and neutrons are both nucleons )...
This is in line with the most ancient Hermetic Teachings which have always identified Masculine principle of Gender and Feminine Poles Electricity
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The so-called Negative pole of the battery is really the pole in and by which the generation or production of new forms and energies is manifested. There is nothing "negative" about it....
..The Cathode, or Negative Pole, is the Mother Principle of Electrical Phenomena, and of the finest forms of matter as yet known to science. So you see we are justified in refusing to use the term "Negative" in our consideration of the subject, and in insisting upon substituting the word "Feminine" for the old term. The facts of the case bear us out in this, without taking the Hermetic Teachings into consideration. And so we shall use the word "Feminine" in the place of "Negative" in speaking of that pole of activity
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A Feminine corpuscle becomes detached from, or rather leaves, a Masculine corpuscle, and starts on a new career. It actively seeks a union with a Masculine corpuscle, being purged thereto by the natural impulse to create new forms of Matter or Energy
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Law of Gravitation-that strange attraction by reason of which all particles and bodies of matter in the universe tend toward each other-is but another manifestation of the Principle of Gender, which operates in the direction of attracting the Masculine to the Feminine energies
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"Rhythm may be neutralized by an application of the Art of Polarization....
...You simply overcome one law by counter-balancing it with another, and thus maintain an equilibrium.
"-The Kybalion.
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"Nothing escapes the Principle of Cause and Effect, but there are many Planes of Causation, and one may use the laws of the higher (frequency ) to overcome the laws of the lower (frequency ie matter )."-The Kybalion.
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for those with the desire to read the Kybalion (which i highly recommend) keep this image in mind while you do...it will make it much easier to understand



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With the aid of The Kybalion one may go through any occult library anew, the old Light from Egypt illuminating many dark pages, and obscure subjects. That is the purpose of this book. We do not come expounding a new philosophy, but rather furnishing the outlines of a great world-old teaching which will make clear the teachings of others-which will serve as a Great Reconciler of differing theories, and opposing doctrines.
one more thing: wow this was a fantastic read....
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or it could be about Magnetism, remember what Paracelsus (father of pharmacology)



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I Agree with you, it is quite hard to match all the texts to electromagnetism, but surely, Since there is correspondence in everything, as everything reflects the other, we should treat each other as one, we exist as part and The Whole; knowing this, doesn't it allows us to have a better comprehension of the Tractate

the key to grasping what Hermes is trying to convey was given to us by himself in the form of "as above so below, as within so without" (the golden mean )



As Above So Below As Within so Without

Access : Solid-state physics: Golden ratio seen in a magnet : Nature





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I understand this. There seems to be a repetative patern in all things from the seen to the unseen from the macro to the micro. It would suggest there is really order to where choas can only be seen by the naked eye. Or maybe even that if there is order in everything in nature then nature is created. And if we can understand nature then we can understand all of creation and then we might be able to understand the creator. If we understand the creator we understand all things and nothing is hidden; even if you can't see it with the naked eye because all is the same within as without and above as below or should I say in the heavens as on the earth. Let me know if this is correct and I will proceed to verify all things you have posted.
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I understand this. There seems to be a repetative patern in all things from the seen to the unseen from the macro to the micro. It would suggest there is really order to where choas can only be seen by the naked eye. Or maybe even that if there is order in everything in nature then nature is created. And if we can understand nature then we can understand all of creation and then we might be able to understand the creator. If we understand the creator we understand all things and nothing is hidden; even if you can't see it with the naked eye because all is the same within as without and above as below or should I say in the heavens as on the earth. Let me know if this is correct and I will proceed to verify all things you have posted.
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In research funded by the National Science Foundation, Brian Enquist of the department of ecology and evolutionary biology at the University of Arizona and his team have discovered a secret in the trees: Hidden among and within the architecture of the branches are fundamental rules that link the size, shape, age and in fact everything about a single tree to all the trees in a forest.
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This rule or code reoccurs as the tree grows, creating a fractal – a repeating pattern – like a spiral of daughter branches emanating from the mother branch or tree trunk.
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UQ researchers break the law -- of physics

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Dr Tony Roberts and PhD student Christophe P. Haynes, from the School of Maths and Physics, showed the fractal-Einstein and Alexander-Orbach laws can fail in some instances, and have derived a new law to replace them.
(maybe this is the 6th law of this fractal universe see post: http://www.energeticforum.com/148789-post127.html )
Dr Roberts said this new discovery had implications for predicting material properties; how disease spreads through society; mapping how wild animals forage for food; and improving the internet.
I'd recommend you read this post http://www.energeticforum.com/149191-post257.html and the ones following it
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the Law of Correspondence doesn't it reflects:

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The application of the principles of one science into another is often neglected. Today we have a massive and growing volume of experimentally proven information that certainly does not always
find its every application
. In the real world, we can work from scientific theory, through experimentation, into an engineered result, but just as often we work via reverse engineering, from the result back into the origin.

To view and contemplate the entire known electromagnetic spectrum as a whole,[/B (a fractal system ) and in terms of music and acoustics, or of color theory, is not a new concept. It has found expression in the
“music of the spheres” and other fanciful philosophies. The new concept here is to actually delineate the considerable volume of information about the vibration rates of all things in their various
states, and simply see if there is a pattern.
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It would suggest there is really order to where choas can only be seen by the naked eye. Or maybe even that if there is order in everything in nature then nature is created. And if we can understand nature then we can understand all of creation and then we might be able to understand the creator
You are the fruit of the "creators Imagination", we will never understand the All (you may catch glimpse of the All, but it is just a small fraction of the Divine ), but we can understand the laws established by the All



Watch this and you will understand:

The God of Mathematics - Georg Cantor's Infinities (Continuum Hypothesis) - YouTube

the full documentary:

Dangerous Knowledge (Philosophy, Physics, Mathematics) -BBC - YouTube
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just a reminder, for those interested in this thread you can print each page in pdf using a pdf printer (search google)
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This i can certainly agree with because the elctro magnetic spectrum touches all thngs in the physical as this picture depicts.

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if we search the seven principles in Hermes's Tractate, if we can determine which ones are at play, we can apply other principles to counter-balance....so my thinking is , let's take this baby for a ride

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1) I speak truly, not falsely, certainly and most truly
2) These things below with those above and those with these join forces again so that they produce a single thing the most wonderful of all.
3)And as the whole universe was brought forth from one by the word of one GOD, so also all things are regenerated perpetually from this one according to the disposition of Nature.
4) It has the Sun for father and the Moon for mother:
5) it is carried by the air as if in a womb, it is nursed by the earth.
6) It is the cause, this, of all perfection of all things throughout the universe.
6a) This will attain the highest perfection of powers
7) if it shall be reduced into earth
7a) Distribute here the earth and there the fire, thin out the density of this the suavest (suavissima) thing of all.
8)Ascend with the greatest sagacity of genius from the earth into the sky, and thence descend again to the earth, and recognise that the forces of things above and of things below are one,
9) so as to posses the glory of the whole world- and beyond this man of abject fate may have nothing further.
10)This thing itself presently comes forth stronger by reasons of this fortitude: it subdues all bodies surely, whether tenuous or solid, by penetrating them.
11a) And so everything whatsoever that the world contains was created.
12) Hence admirable works are accomplished which are instituted (carried out- instituuntur) according to the same mode.
13) To me therefor the name of Hermes Trismegistus has been awarded because I am discovered as the Teacher of the three parts of the wisdom of the world.
14) These then are the considerations which I have concluded ought to be written down concerning the readiest operations of the Chymic art.
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see experiment : Three Soviet scientists, S. STSCHURIN, V. P. and L. KAZNACHEJEU Michailova, confirmed after more
than 5 000 experiments that living cells transmit information through photons:


http://www.energeticforum.com/136258-post21.html

Which is fairly understandable. Glass does not allow uvb rays to pass through it but it does alow UVA rays to pass through. It is the UVA rays that carry the photonic vibrational harmonics of the disease through the quartz.

This is an exerpt from What are Crystals?

Ultraviolet radiation: UV radiation is composed of high-energy electrons that range in frequency from 1017-1015 hertz. The primary source of UV energy on Earth is the Sun. Sun lamps can create ultraviolet radiation as well. Ultra means beyond. Violet is a shade of purple. Beyond purple is blackness. Because of this, ultraviolet radiation is also known as Black light. Black light has profound impact upon matter, both organic and non-living. Black light ionizes matter, causing the electrons contained in the matter to become excited and/or released. Ion is another name for a 'free' electron. Black light's influence upon ions can cause:
-Photochemical processes (cause chemical reactions);
-Photoelectric reaction (cause some elements to produce electricity when
exposed to Black light); and
-Fluorescence or iridescence (cause some elements to light up or
illuminate).

Infrared means below red. Infrared energy is invisible rays that have frequencies lower than visible red light. This band of energy is about five times larger than the spectrum of visible light. It ranges in frequency from 1014.5 hertz through 1011 hertz. Infrared radiation is the scientific name for heat rays. Heat rays elevate the temperature of matter, dehydrates matter, and excites matter into movement.

This exerpt is from QUARTZ INFRARED HEATERS | Quartz Infrared Portable Heaters | Quartz Heaters | INFRARED HEATERS

How Infrared Quartz Heaters Do the Job

How this works is that at the heart of every unit there is a resistor such as tungsten wiring. This could well be carbon, iron, chromium, or aluminum. The idea is that electricity powers up the resistant element while the quartz crystal in a lamp, bulb, or tube format traps the energy and transforms it into light. Take note, the quartz crystal is what generates most of the energy, not the wire. The heat in the quartz receptacle causes silicon and oxygen bonding, thereby producing infrared rays.

If what I am reading is correct then quartz crystal has the ability to turn heat directly into infrared light. This remminds me of that part of the tract that talked about there being something black inside the quartz that turned red like the sun when it sets and needing uv light also.



This makes sense in this way. If quartz crytal can easily retain infrared light as excess electrons then using uv rays is a way to release them in a controlled fashion without even needing an internal interface of mesh wiring. Of course too much heat equals meltdown. This is why it needs to be encased in water. UV raditaion can pentrate up to 500 meters of clear water. This is the answer! Not all of it I am sure but 90%!
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This makes sense in this way. If quartz crytal can easily retain infrared light as excess electrons then using uv rays is a way to release them in a controlled fashion without even needing an internal interface of mesh wiring. Of course too much heat equals meltdown. This is why it needs to be encased in water. UV raditaion can pentrate up to 500 meters of clear water. This is the answer! Not all of it I am sure but 90%!
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you found the spider web , see post http://www.energeticforum.com/149406-post8.html

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@slider,

If you read this, in case you have access to UV light, could you try it on your crystal Battery, please ...It got me thinking when reading Shawn's post


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This makes sense in this way. If quartz crytal can easily retain infrared light as excess electrons then using uv rays is a way to release them in a controlled fashion without even needing an internal interface of mesh wiring. Of course too much heat equals meltdown. This is why it needs to be encased in water. UV raditaion can pentrate up to 500 meters of clear water. This is the answer! Not all of it I am sure but 90%!
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it is not actually "resolved" into those forms of energy (which are much higher in the scale), but simply that it reaches a degree of vibration in which those forms of energy are liberated, in a degree, from the confining influences of its molecules, atoms and corpuscles, as the case may be. These forms of energy, although much higher in the scale than matter, are imprisoned and confined in the material combinations
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StweenyA,

I just realized, you have given us the tool to Apply the LAW of Correspondance, see Gnostic.Org: The Kybalion , a tool we are using to translate The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus ,

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I had a blacklight in my gameroom til a few months ago..gave it away, oops.
However, I do have 2 lots of ex PC printer rows of UV LED's. At least I think they are UV as they're not infra-red. Or they're broken
Yep, will see into that idea of yours and report any findings.
The 2 paralleled cells are still running btw, LED still glowing away
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Thanks Sliderfor the help , much appreciated

side note: did you try the 2 laser pointers on your cells

Shawn, so where do we start
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Thanks Sliderfor the help , much appreciated

side note: did you try the 2 laser pointers on your cells

Shawn, so where do we start
We already have. If all things work together and even overlap due to their connection then the perfect form of energy will encompass a harmonic, vibrational, etc. exchange so that all is working within a balance to exchange/produce energy in a natural cycle; much like a mechanical representation of the natural. The question should be with what we have, ( quartz, water, light(both infrared and UV)) what is it that we are lacking to make the exchange balance. And even with what we have what is the correct resonance of balance. I/E what frequency of ultravolet is the best. In what state should the water be? solid liquid or gas? Should the Infrared be at the beginning, middle or end to produce the most electricity? We have a starting point but to many questions to proceed further. Once we have the answers to these questions and we can snugly fit together these components with a 90% or better assurity then that might lead us to what we need next or should I say what is missing to place this in complete harmonial balance. It will be like reverse engineering a clock; to build it we need to fit together the parts we have and then determine, from what is left out, what is missing, until its complete. Then we can fine tune it.
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We already have. If all things work together and even overlap due to their connection then the perfect form of energy will encompass a harmonic, vibrational, etc. exchange so that all is working within a balance to exchange/produce energy in a natural cycle; much like a mechanical representation of the natural. The question should be with what we have, ( quartz, water, light(both infrared and UV)) what is it that we are lacking to make the exchange balance. And even with what we have what is the correct resonance of balance. I/E what frequency of ultravolet is the best. In what state should the water be? solid liquid or gas? Should the Infrared be at the beginning, middle or end to produce the most electricity? We have a starting point but to many questions to proceed further. Once we have the answers to these questions and we can snugly fit together these components with a 90% or better assurity then that might lead us to what we need next or should I say what is missing to place this in complete harmonial balance. It will be like reverse engineering a clock; to build it we need to fit together the parts we have and then determine, from what is left out, what is missing, until its complete. Then we can fine tune it.
Amen...I'll look through all my posting...to find more clues....there is an article i'll start first with: (keeping in mind the 7 principles )

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Thanks Sliderfor the help , much appreciated

side note: did you try the 2 laser pointers on your cells

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I would however suggest a rough deisgn that will of course change as we discover more. We have determined that quartz crystal can store energy. This should be the heart of the design. Or should I say the center piece from which we add all other components. The larger the piece the more energy it can hold. I would say let us build three with components of correlating size but we do not yet know the cost so that would be too impetuous so let us start with one. Now we have to determine how we will place the infrared light in. We know that once we shoot a beam of infrared light at the Q crystal that it will become entrapped. The sun would be the most obvious and free source of charging the crystal with one drawback. We have to filter out all the UV which will release the energy just as fast as it goes in. The UV light is counter productive in the charging stage. So the second component would most likely be an Infrared pass filter such as the one I have. I have a deep red Roscoe gel filter which is partially heat resistant(used for stage lighting) that only lets 680nm and deeper light pass through it($4.50) it cost me just a little over four dollars. We could place the quarts crystal in the sun under the red filter then bring it inside while still covered. Once inside we do not have to worry except for maybe accidental exposure to sunlight or black light sources such as heat lamps. I personally beleive that once inside the quartz needs to be placed in a room with only LED lighting(no UV). I remember from the video that the supercharged plexiglass did not discharge until struck by a nail. In this case i think it would be relatively safe to touch a metal rod to the crystal. One drawback; I remember that in another video that a crytal ball repelled a metal rod. I wouldn't suggest implanting the metal rod as John hutchinson did though. It might be suggestive to find what type of metal is not repelled by the crystal yet still is conductive. Maybe shape the metal like a bowl at one end to hold the crystal if it is ball shaped or flat like a plate at one end it it is square. Then shoot a small UV laser through it to see if it tranfers the energy from inside the ball into the metal holder. If it does then we need to coat the metal rod with an insulator. Iguess in the end it might end up looking like a wizards staff; you know the stick with the crystal at the top.
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from:3D electromagnetic field



non-ferromagnetic substances : such as wood, plastic, glass, bone, copper aluminium, SiO2 (quartz), air and water

about quartz, 3d Magnetic should probably be considered at play here

INVENTION - Piezomagentic Induction



correction:

non-ferromagnetic conductive substances : , copper aluminium, air and water ....

we should also envision the possibility of placing the charged quartz in a Moe-joe cell type of design: read the post

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Shawn, check this this website out, it has a comprehensive amount of info on Quartz such as:

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In this regard, we note the discovery made ​​by Gurwitsch and Frank, "mitogenetic rays" that stand out stems and roots of fresh-cut vegetables, as long as the cell nucleus is not destroyed. These rays have been identified as a character similar to ultra-violet radiation, and their discovery is an important confirmation of the theory of cellular oscillation.
Lakhovsky - The Secret of Life.
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This suggests that ultraviolet radiation was. Later, he established the spectral boundaries more accurately - 190-330 nm, while the average rate estimated at 300-1000 photons / s per square centimeter. In other words, mitogenetic radiation, open Gurvich, represented the middle and near ultraviolet light of extremely low intensity. (Current data rate is even lower - it is the order of tens of photons / s per square centimeter.)
see post http://www.energeticforum.com/144508-post116.html

it is a Russian website,

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I've just started reading this thread properly. Must say, enjoyed the tree forest interconnections with fractal interlocking.
Chaos appears to be a great example of human misunderstanding....a bit like the random number sequences in computers, whereby in fact it's a 'seed', a set pattern that just appears to be random to a person.

I haven't tried the lasers yet, have been waiting for the test to conclude, i.e. the batteries to run down. With looking to make a more efficient circuit for these cells i'll get on with that and try out the lasers and UV LED's hopefully today
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Thank you Slider, we'll be looking forward to reading your results

------you guys are going to like this:

Russian scientists announced a sensational discovery at a press conference in Moscow today (July 26).

A group of scientists supervised by the director of the Volgograd Institute on the study of materials, under the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, Academician Valerian Sobolev, have discovered a new substances that can serve as a principally new, autonomous source of energy.

The new non-chemical "battery" is made from sand and gets its energy from the Earth's magnetic fields. What is particularly important that the installation producing energy is relatively cheap.

According to the academician, this discovery is of tremendous significance today. Using a stripping process, quartz, i.e., sand is transformed into a special substance that looks like blue crystals. This substance is used for making a special installation that scientists view as a stable and very powerful source of energy.

Russian scientists have been working on the new sour! ce of energy together with Americans (the group includes 11 Russians and one American). Some experiments are conducted at Columbia University, but the majority of tests (running into hundreds) are done in Russia and it will get the patent.

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I've just started reading this thread properly. Must say, enjoyed the tree forest interconnections with fractal interlocking.
Chaos appears to be a great example of human misunderstanding....a bit like the random number sequences in computers, whereby in fact it's a 'seed', a set pattern that just appears to be random to a person.

I haven't tried the lasers yet, have been waiting for the test to conclude, i.e. the batteries to run down. With looking to make a more efficient circuit for these cells i'll get on with that and try out the lasers and UV LED's hopefully today
If you are using crystal batteries such as the ones john Hutchinson introduced then they will not wear down anytime soon. They pick up any ambient infrared light around and transfer that into electricity. If it is producing right now then that is exactly what we want. Just hook a volt meter to it get a reading then shine UV light at it prefereably a diode or monochromatic color. It should accoriding to theory completely drain it. The cell could possibly even spike as it releases all its energy. Or it could even cause a larger output due to releasing the energy quicker without ever fully releasing all the energy.
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Shawn, about the shape, did some research and it lead me back to a shape we both know:

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Know, therefore, that in the hen's egg is the greatest help with respect to the proximity and relationship of the matter in nature (fractal nature), for in it there is a spirituality (all is spirit, and so is electromagnetics ) and conjunction of elements, and an earth which is golden (golden mean see: http://www.energeticforum.com/149201-post91.html ) in its tincture.

the hen's egg (Victor Schauberger's egg, inventor of : The Schauberger Flying Saucer "The Repulsin" type A)




Schaubergers Cosmic Egg
Egg-Shaped Crystals – This shape, usually fabricated, is extremely versatile, and has been used in reflexology, zone-therapy, acupressure, shiatsu and aura reading.


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