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Dave45 · #**481** 09-08-2011, 01:15 PM

MM you should build a cell using your coil, after I seen the vortex in your field, oh yea doit doit we'r ona roll

Dave45 · #**482** 09-08-2011, 01:21 PM

My work has slowed down, Im supposed to be working on my house but Im so excited I cant concentrate on anything but what's going on with the cell.

PS dont tell my wife

MonsieurM · #**483** 09-08-2011, 02:43 PM

I promise i won't if asked

I will try to do it with the same coil (which is quite easy to make) but first i need to build a pulse dc circuit...I may be proficient in research...I suck in circuitry

MonsieurM · #**484** 09-08-2011, 02:51 PM

Slovenia just posted the schematic for the sonic boiler inspired by Peter Davey's design:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slovenia

Description of Diagram:

You've got an enclosed reservoir for your water with a water inlet and outlet. You have two electrodes inside the tank/reservoir. One is the cup you see in the picture and that is an open ended beer can. One end is closed and the other is open. The closed end is anchored to the side of the tank. At the open side of the beer can is a metal ring/strap, that fits around the top outside of the beer can without touching it. The strap/metal ring comes close to the beer can but does not touch it. The metal ring/strap is anchored to the side of the tank/reservoir. The beer can is tuned to 60 Hz and is the anode. The ring/metal strap is the cathode electrode.

Dimensions of the ring/strap:
Ring 5mm wide and .2mm thickness. It needs to be just long enough to fit around the beer can and still have a space between it and the beer can.

Questions:
I need to ask my contact about the 400 Hz scenario with the cathode.

there maybe a way of not having to tune the beer bottle and that is using a caduceus ring...I'll have to think about it

anyway, Slovenia's design seems sound to me...what do you think

Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

MonsieurM · #**485** 09-08-2011, 03:09 PM

The Advantage of the Smith Coil is that it has Infinite resonance

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The caduceus coil illustrated in Fig.1, basically consists of ordinary insulated copper wire wound in a double-helix around a ferrite core. THIS COIL HAS REPEATEDLY BEEN FOUND TO VIOLATE ESTABLISHED LAWS OF ELECTROMAGNETICS AND HERTZIAN WAVE THEORY WHEN A HIGH FREQUENCY CURRENT IS INJECTED INTO IT....
....First. This apparatus has zero impedance - unlike an ordinary coil. when fed electrical energy the wire in the Tensor coil does not get hot.

Secondly. It has infinite resonance - unlike an ordinary coil which will resonate chiefly at its natural fundamental frequency and weakly on the second or third harmonic, the Tensor coil is capable of resonating strongly on any number of frequencies randomly spaced in the spectrum. The signal pumped into such a coil strangely enough cannot be quantified (detected) by standard RF (radio frequency) detection apparatus ( see: 3D electromagnetic field .) Many "Ham" radio operators and electronic technicians who have used these coils, are completely baffled by them

Caduceus Wound Coil Experiments

Dave45 · #**486** 09-08-2011, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsieurM

I promise i won't if asked

Yea I wont tell her I'll just ask her if she knew

MonsieurM · #**487** 09-08-2011, 06:09 PM

Remember i said that the Ankh Set up has to be tuned like a musical instrument

i was not kidding

Tesla Coil Music - Featured on Hacked Gadgets - YouTube

MonsieurM · #**488** 09-08-2011, 06:25 PM

I will show, later on, a coil i made a while back I called it the Mobius/Caduceus coil...and i think it has some peculiar properties...

it is a braided wire that is braided like the caduceus coil (from within so without )

shawnnweed · #**489** 09-08-2011, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave45

Notice in this pic we can see the vortex coming from the coil

Way to go MM

I think we are on the right track

Now that's what i call structured ice!

MonsieurM · #**490** 09-08-2011, 08:20 PM

I present you with the Mobius Caduceus coil

link to a normal mobius coil and how to make one

Mobius Coil Tutorial

shawnnweed · #**491** 09-08-2011, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsieurM

Slovenia just posted the schematic for the sonic boiler inspired by Peter Davey's design:

there maybe a way of not having to tune the beer bottle and that is using a caduceus ring...I'll have to think about it

anyway, Slovenia's design seems sound to me...what do you think

Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

I appologize for being skeptical but I really do not see how this will not short itself out.

MonsieurM · #**492** 09-08-2011, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnnweed

I appologize for being skeptical but I really do not see how this will not short itself out.

mica.....

MonsieurM · #**493** 09-08-2011, 10:58 PM

just an update on this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAMSET

[www.witts.ws] World's Most Efficient Overunity Water Heater ... from WITTS [www.witts.ws] - YouTube

Chet

Principle of correspondence

he uses what is called a Helmholtz resonance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia to heat the water

Quote:

Helmholtz resonance is the phenomenon of air resonance in a cavity, such as when one blows across the top of an empty bottle. The name comes from a device created in the 1850s by Hermann von Helmholtz, the "Helmholtz resonator", which he, the author of the classic study of acoustic science, used to identify the various frequencies or musical pitches present in music and other complex sounds

compare with the heater

Quote:

light can be nothing else than a sound wave in the ether. Tesla

MonsieurM · #**494** 09-08-2011, 11:02 PM

Let me introduce to Hermann von Helmholtz, pay attention to his contribution in light of what you know now....

Quote:

Hermann Ludwig Ferdinand von Helmholtz (August 31, 1821 – September 8, 1894) was a German physician and physicist who made significant contributions to several widely varied areas of modern science. In physiology and psychology, he is known for his mathematics of the eye, theories of vision, ideas on the visual perception of space, color vision research, and on the sensation of tone, perception of sound, and empiricism. In physics, he is known for his theories on the conservation of energy, work in electrodynamics, chemical thermodynamics, and on a mechanical foundation of thermodynamics. As a philosopher, he is known for his philosophy of science, ideas on the relation between the laws of perception and the laws of nature, the science of aesthetics, and ideas on the civilizing power of science. The largest German association of research institutions, the Helmholtz Association, is named after him

MonsieurM · #**495** 09-08-2011, 11:33 PM

Btw the same principle works for Peter Davey's Heater see the diagram and ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slovenia

Description of Diagram:

You've got an enclosed reservoir for your water with a water inlet and outlet. You have two electrodes inside the tank/reservoir. One is the cup you see in the picture and that is an open ended beer can. One end is closed and the other is open. The closed end is anchored to the side of the tank. At the open side of the beer can is a metal ring/strap, that fits around the top outside of the beer can without touching it. The strap/metal ring comes close to the beer can but does not touch it. The metal ring/strap is anchored to the side of the tank/reservoir. The beer can is tuned to 60 Hz and is the anode. The ring/metal strap is the cathode electrode.

Dimensions of the ring/strap:
Ring 5mm wide and .2mm thickness. It needs to be just long enough to fit around the beer can and still have a space between it and the beer can.

Questions:
I need to ask my contact about the 400 Hz scenario with the cathode.

...compare it to : Koenig made both cylindrical and spherical Helmholtz resonators

same principles, different design

Helmholtz Resonator

MonsieurM · #**496** 09-08-2011, 11:59 PM

Helmholtz Resonators

Check out the patents based on the Resonator more in the link above

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BARRIER SYSTEM
WO2009108071

Process for the preparation of nanocrystalline hydrotalcite compounds
GB2457771

Vibration damper for damping hydraulic vibration of hydraulic oil in pressure line
DE102009004705

Pressure sensing device adapted to corrosive or explosive atmospheres and with means to filter disturbance frequencies
GB2456865

Resonator device for e.g. non supercharged internal combustion engine
FR2926608

INLINE HELMHOLTZ TYPE RESONATOR
KR20090047083

Handheld electronic device having hidden sound openings offset from an audio source
EP2081400

Hydraulic system for actuation of clutch of motor vehicle
DE102008062336

Hydraulic system for motor vehicle
DE102008060584

COOLING DEVICE AND ELECTRONIC DEVICE COMPRISING SUCH A COOLING DEVICE
US2009168343

LITHOGRAPHIC APPARATUS HAVING ACOUSTIC RESONATOR
US2009161085

Microphone for audio source tracking
CN101449593

Novel Helmholtz resonator
CN101435356

EXHAUST DEVICE FOR STRADDLE-TYPE VEHICLE AND STRADDLE-TYPE VEHICLE
US2009139796

MICROREACTOR DEVICE
JP2009090265

Noise attenuation device for a centrifugal compressor discharge or suction nozzle
EP2063130

MEASUREMENT OF SOUND SPEED OF DOWNHOLE FLUID BY HELMHOLTZ RESONATOR
WO2009055197

Method and device for achieving better heat transfer when using pulse heaters
US2009084036

SILENCER OF INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE
JP2009036185

MonsieurM · #**497** 09-09-2011, 12:24 AM

Tuning fork type piezoelectric resonator

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Electrically operated tuning fork - Google Patents

Dave45 · #**498** 09-09-2011, 01:06 AM

Now thats a water splitter if Iv ever seen one.

MonsieurM · #**499** 09-09-2011, 01:13 AM

Now you saw a tuning fork , let's replace it with "wine glass/beer shaped" piezoelectric tuner

watch this now

Wine glass resonance in slow motion - YouTube starts at 1min 30

MonsieurM · #**500** 09-09-2011, 10:16 AM

Here is a video showing the capabilities of Smith (Caduceus ) Coil

Lenz's Law - Caduceus Coil - Bedini - Perpetual Motion Holder - Leedskalnin Montage - YouTube

shawn, it will remind you of Dr Boyd's video on anisotropy

-----the following video is a 3d description of a vimana

THE VYMAANIKA-SHAASTRA-vinama device. - YouTube

you should look at the above pic upside down to see the Ankh Set up

shawnnweed · #**501** 09-09-2011, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsieurM

Here is a video showing the capabilities of Smith (Caduceus ) Coil

Lenz's Law - Caduceus Coil - Bedini - Perpetual Motion Holder - Leedskalnin Montage - YouTube

shawn, it will remind you of Dr Boyd's video on anisotropy

-----the following video is a 3d description of a vimana

THE VYMAANIKA-SHAASTRA-vinama device. - YouTube

you should look at the above pic upside down to see the Ankh Set up

alright let us see. So far I have seen a gyroscope, tesla device, roddin coil, and fusion reactor all combined did i miss anything?

shawnnweed · #**502** 09-09-2011, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnnweed

alright let us see. So far I have seen a gyroscope, tesla device, roddin coil, and fusion reactor all combined did i miss anything?

which makes complete sense. If a vortex of liquid water can create thousands of volts and this is just water then how about a vortex of liquid metal, like mercury? Of course what is a roddin coil filled with mercury once the metal is moving within but a vortex. If you filled the container then how could you get the mercry to vortex naturally, you can not, no vortex no electricity. But what if you spun the container. Then the liquid within will eventually spin at the same rate the exterior spins. This is why they placed the entire set up on a gyroscope. The base is nothing but a centrifuge (not a fusion reactor as previously stated...sorry. This total set up would cause an electromagentic flux so large that it would easily pick itself up from the ground.

MonsieurM · #**503** 09-09-2011, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnnweed

alright let us see. So far I have seen a gyroscope, tesla device, roddin coil, and fusion reactor all combined did i miss anything?

We are on the same page .....

shawnnweed · #**504** 09-09-2011, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnnweed

which makes complete sense. If a vortex of liquid water can create thousands of volts and this is just water then how about a vortex of liquid metal, like mercury? Of course what is a roddin coil filled with mercury once the metal is moving within but a vortex. If you filled the container then how could you get the mercry to vortex naturally, you can not, no vortex no electricity. But what if you spun the container. Then the liquid within will eventually spin at the same rate the exterior spins. This is why they placed the entire set up on a gyroscope. The base is nothing but a centrifuge (not a fusion reactor as previously stated...sorry. This total set up would cause an electromagentic flux so large that it would easily pick itself up from the ground.

which begs to question...what would you get when you mix a roddin coil made of copper filled with mercury and wrapped with a caduceus coil?

MonsieurM · #**505** 09-09-2011, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnnweed

which begs to question...what would you get when you mix a roddin coil made of copper filled with mercury and wrapped with a caduceus coil?

You mean a copper Donut filled with mercury and wrapped with a caduceus coil...

I like where you are going with this sounds Nazi Bell like...

MonsieurM · #**506** 09-09-2011, 02:26 PM

watch the vid:

Rodin coil vortex in water - YouTube

First magnetic vortice reproduced... - YouTube

Magnetic Rotation in the Rodin Coil - was the Bell really a myth after all?

Magnetic Rotation in the Rodin Coil - was the Bell really a myth after all?

I "ventured" my personal take on this:

http://www.energeticforum.com/149292-post160.html

MonsieurM · #**507** 09-09-2011, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnnweed

which begs to question...what would you get when you mix a roddin coil made of copper filled with mercury and wrapped with a caduceus coil?

You get this...guess who...The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism

Helmholtz Torus UFO Technology Ferrofluid Rotor - YouTube

watch this vid, it is very well presented:

Anti Gravity - YouTube

shawnnweed · #**508** 09-09-2011, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsieurM

You get this...guess who...The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism

Helmholtz Torus UFO Technology Ferrofluid Rotor - YouTube

watch this vid, it is very well presented:

Anti Gravity - YouTube

pretty interresting. I also disocvered that mercury when in a copper donut will move when there is electricity applied and moves in the interior in a corkscrew fashion. An electro magnet is often copper wire wrapped around a iron core(soft metal) but mercury is also a soft metal. Wouldn't this be a giant electromagnet on crack. Apply high voltage and watch the sparks fly.

MonsieurM · #**509** 09-09-2011, 03:31 PM

you know if you look at the properties of water, you'll find that it shares some with mercury; i would suggest you read this post:

http://www.energeticforum.com/148474-post141.html

and it is safer for your health...

MonsieurM · #**510** 09-09-2011, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnnweed

which makes complete sense. If a vortex of liquid water can create thousands of volts and this is just water then how about a vortex of liquid metal, like mercury? Of course what is a roddin coil filled with mercury once the metal is moving within but a vortex. If you filled the container then how could you get the mercry to vortex naturally, you can not, no vortex no electricity. But what if you spun the container. Then the liquid within will eventually spin at the same rate the exterior spins. This is why they placed the entire set up on a gyroscope. The base is nothing but a centrifuge (not a fusion reactor as previously stated...sorry. This total set up would cause an electromagentic flux so large that it would easily pick itself up from the ground.

works for me

Principle of polarity:

Quote:

centripetal energy is the basis of life whereas centrifugal energy is the basis of decay and destruction. V. Schauberger

Now add on top of it (the entire set up on a gyroscope) a Bell Shaped /or Singing Bowl shaped cover That functions like the Helmholtz Resonator (Helmholtz resonance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )

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