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I'm Happy Shawn, you are seeing it...now you know....just under our nose

i know i will sound yoda like but i'm still a little grass hopper

the truth is each has his own tree of knowledge and grows at it own pace...I have a big flaw is that i'm quite impatient to have an answer so to compensate i seek it ...as they say "One is never so well served as by oneself."

-----principle of correspondence...replace tree with human psyche/mentality/group behavior


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In research funded by the National Science Foundation, Brian Enquist of the department of ecology and evolutionary biology at the University of Arizona and his team have discovered a secret in the trees: Hidden among and within the architecture of the branches are fundamental rules that link the size, shape, age and in fact everything about a single tree to all the trees in a forest.
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Tesla coil + rodin coil + Tesla Egg , horizontally positioned +as Shawn said Witricity

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You make me so sometimes. You pick up on things so easily. And now I get it, much, much later. That old gentleman was giving all the neccesary components and principles needed to understand antigravity without coming out and saying this is how it's done.
He showed the celt which gave the first principle of 'natural' anisotropic (directional movement). And you grasped it right away, I did not.
Then he showed how 'engineered' anisotropic movement could help to attain 'thrust' with absolutely no chemical reaction through the ascending sized stacked balls, and you grasped it immediately, I was sitting in the corner and going 'so what it's just a trick.'
Then he showed how using using two 'opposing' magnets could be used to create a single 'natural' magnetic field which CAN oppose gravity, and you were like and waited for the next thing he was going to speak on to see how it correlated because you immidiately understood how he was using 'natural' 'exceptions to the rule' and then engineering a stronger version while I was sitting in the corner going dats cool. and being completely oblivious.
Then he showed an example of Lenz's law by dropping a magnet through a copper pipe which induces a current or should I say a natural ectro'magnetic' field' which also can be useful in opposing gravity.
And when you add all these principles together you get the electromagnetic coil or the roddin torroid coil which is the only coil that creates two opposing forces like the two opposing magnets and of course by wrapping it in copper wires you get the lenz's law effect of opposing gravity, you grasped it and I was like wait a minute what did he just say.
And of course this can be done on such a scale that when adding all the principles together you can't help but to get a multilevel, multisized stacked torroid coil that has a natural yet engineered abilty to comletley oppose gravity. And you were like don't you get it? And I'm like you my best friend in da hole world; what's for eating today?
Now I seriously don't want to hear any humble, yoda the jedi master sayings like, "emmnggg, learning to use the force, he is." You got it the first time and once again had to walk me through it to help me see past the 'finger and see the moon.'
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Anisotropy (/ˌζnaɪˈsɒtrəpi/) is the property of being directionally dependent, as opposed to isotropy, which implies identical properties in all directions. It can be defined as a difference, when measured along different axes, in a material's physical or mechanical properties (absorbance, refractive index, conductivity, tensile strength, etc.) An example of anisotropy is the light coming through a polarizer. An example of an anisotropic material is wood, which is easier to split along its grain than against it.
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This finding, confirmed only within the past two years, quickly led to the conclusion that Earth's solid-iron inner core is "anisotropic" -- it has a directional quality, a texture similar to the grain in wood, that allows sound waves to go faster when they travel in a certain direction.
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CRYSTAL AT THE CENTER OF THE EARTH: Anisotropy of Earth's Inner Core
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How do you think trees get water from roots to leafs (pricinple of correspondence and polarity )

wood it anisotropic, Natural Antigravity Trees do it everyday



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When I worked for NOM 's Environmental Research Labs in Boulder, we were once asked why lightning sometimes spirals down the trunk of a tree. While the answer was not proven, we observed that the path of least resistance might follow the spiral grain of the wood (anisotropy ). I eventually found a tree with a spiral lightning mark and it followed the spiral grain exactly. One tree, of course, proves nothing.
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In a world made only of waves, there would be just two geometric forms, the torus, or vortex, and the golden mean spiral. the donut, torus, form is the only structure in a world of waves that can become coherent, that is, retain a regular shape like a smoke ring. As more of these smoke rings are created and they want to relate to the first smoke ring, they must "nest" in the right pattern so that they can remember their form and still share structure. the best pathway for doing this is the ratio we call the golden mean.




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tesla coil + quartz egg in egypt



look at fig 3 and compare with above pic egg "filament"





do you see the Tesla egg + rodin coil + tesla coil profil view




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The Ankh ( /ζŋk/ or /ɑːŋk/; U+2625 ☥ or U+132F9 𓋹), also known as key of life, the key of the Nile or crux ansata, was the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic character that read "eternal life",
"eternal life", according to the Kybalion the only entity that is eternal, is the All (principle of mentalism ), the divine source of energy that powers all in the universe , some call it the Electric Universe....

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Guys, have you listened to this show on Giza pyramid

(listen at 1:07:27 ) talks about pyramid water energy

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looking at the Ankh sign, i think you can also vary the form of the Rodin Coil to control the opposing vortices ....



in the words of Mother Nature: not all nests are the same

i'll check later the nests of the sacred birds of egypt ....
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In a world made only of waves, there would be just two geometric forms, the torus, or vortex, and the golden mean spiral. the donut, torus, form is the only structure in a world of waves that can become coherent, that is, retain a regular shape like a smoke ring. As more of these smoke rings are created and they want to relate to the first smoke ring, they must "nest" in the right pattern so that they can remember their form and still share structure. the best pathway for doing this is the ratio we call the golden mean.




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Reminded me of this:

Left = cymaglyph of adult dolphin voice,
Rigth = cymaglyph of a baby dolphin calling to its mother
SpeakDolphin - Research Projects > PRESS RELEASE: Deciphering Dolphin Language with Picture Words


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This rule or code reoccurs as the tree grows, creating a fractal – a repeating pattern – like a spiral of daughter branches emanating from the mother branch or tree trunk.

Now plug this in:

Terence McKenna Timewave Zero Novelty Theory 1/3
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Time 3 minute 48 ....second fractal pattern of the entire wave......

Worth listening to this in full.

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In a world made only of waves, there would be just two geometric forms, the torus, or vortex, and the golden mean spiral. the donut, torus, form is the only structure in a world of waves that can become coherent, that is, retain a regular shape like a smoke ring. As more of these smoke rings are created and they want to relate to the first smoke ring, they must "nest" in the right pattern so that they can remember their form and still share structure. the best pathway for doing this is the ratio we call the golden mean.




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...then the golden mean spiral can be used to calculate how wide the next torroid must be and the distance it needs to be from the next. Then all that has to be done is figuring out energy input to make them resonate.
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tesla roddin coil with EMF egg

By the way I love the idea of using a tesla coil as the power source for the roddin coil. We should definately do this on the micro level first with one roddin coil. The once that is perfected we can move onto multiple stacked coils.
If this doesn't have winner written all over it I don't know what does.
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...then the golden mean spiral can be used to calculate how wide the next torroid must be and the distance it needs to be from the next. Then all that has to be done is figuring out energy input to make them resonate.
if you slice an egg horizontally (without the yolk ) what do you get...the stacked up toroid you are looking for

take 2 boiled eggs, slice one vertically and the other horizontally (don't eat them ) and study them
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...then the golden mean spiral can be used to calculate how wide the next torroid must be and the distance it needs to be from the next. Then all that has to be done is figuring out energy input to make them resonate.
you are correct it is all in the golden ratio which has to repeat in our fractal set up ie Tesla/Rodin set up

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Reminded me of this:

Left = cymaglyph of adult dolphin voice,
Rigth = cymaglyph of a baby dolphin calling to its mother
SpeakDolphin - Research Projects > PRESS RELEASE: Deciphering Dolphin Language with Picture Words


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also called the universal language........Amazing pictures

will listen to Terence McKenna Timewave Zero Novelty...
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if you slice an egg horizontally (without the yolk ) what do you get...the stacked up toroid you are looking for

take 2 boiled eggs, slice one vertically and the other horizontally (don't eat them ) and study them
all these talkings of eggs is makin me hungry. Seriously though, are you suggesting a ring in ring matrix(like in the movie 'contact') or an egg in egg matrix.
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all these talkings of eggs is makin me hungry. Seriously though, are you suggesting a ring in ring matrix(like in the movie 'contact') or an egg in egg matrix.
not going that far, just observation

here follows the definition of a fractal construct :

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let's suppose that the Tesla Set up + Rodin coil + Tesla egg, too long to type, I'll just Call it Ankh Set up (we are still in the thread on Hermes )

Let's suppose the Ankh Setup if fractal , if i slice up an egg, it should reflect one part of the set up (ie Rodin Coil;at least approximately )....




a sliced egg also respects the above definition of a fractal (principle of correspondance )

pay attention to the grain of the yolk



EggMath: The Shape of an Egg

Chickscope 1.5: Explore: EggMath: The Shape of an Egg


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side note: just posting this pic , it looks intriguing to me, it's called an Egg Tangram, with the Cut out of the pieces you make birds with it




you can see the birds here: nrich.maths.org :: Mathematics Enrichment :: Making Maths: Birds from an Egg

I do recall Egyptian having sacred birds and pyramids
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just so you can visualize what happens in a magnet

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each is an image of the other (principle of correspondance, Tesla knew this )
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Reminded me of this:

Left = cymaglyph of adult dolphin voice,
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SpeakDolphin - Research Projects > PRESS RELEASE: Deciphering Dolphin Language with Picture Words


Also, Dolphin Bubbles: An Amazing Behavior:
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the dolphin vid is amazing, watch at 1:15 , spot the infinity sign
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...then the golden mean spiral can be used to calculate how wide the next torroid must be and the distance it needs to be from the next. Then all that has to be done is figuring out energy input to make them resonate.
Yes The Golden mean is the key, but you'll have to recalibrate the next donut according to the previous in size of the donut but also the size of the copper wiring, etc...

Tesla took this into account when building his coil (principle of Correspondence )

how do you tune a musical instrument....

It is always in relations to the previous key, and in the musical scale, the golden ratio is king

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and the Ankh set up is a "musical instrument" of sort
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Let's do some more slicing up, you won't be hungry this time around

Take a vortex and do the same thing, horizontal slicing, you also get stacked up Rodin Coils


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sorry for the visual exercise...good for the brain

side note: the study of hurricane and tornado are two field with data on vortex (principle of correspondance )
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and the same applies to the emf egg (formed by the primary and secondary coils of the Tesla Coil )



which makes me think that the secondary coil may be better if it looked like the lower part of the Ankh sign (to have correspondence of different sizes like the sliced egg)





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This rule or code reoccurs as the tree grows, creating a fractal – a repeating pattern – like a spiral of daughter branches emanating from the mother branch or tree trunk.

Now plug this in:

Terence McKenna Timewave Zero Novelty Theory 1/3
Terence McKenna Timewave Zero Novelty Theory 1/3 - YouTube
Time 3 minute 48 ....second fractal pattern of the entire wave......

Worth listening to this in full.

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in relations to the doc

have you watched the doc i posted here :

http://www.energeticforum.com/147603-post2.html

with what you know now (water, emf, etc...), it will make total sense (if you look closely, you can see in the doc, anisotropy at play )

before you watch it, I would like you to read this

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The premise of the series is that psychologist Hari Seldon spent his life developing a branch of mathematics known as psychohistory, a concept of mathematical sociology (analogous to mathematical physics). Using the laws of mass action, it can predict the future, but only on a large scale; it is error-prone on a small scale. It works on the principle that the behaviour of a mass of people is predictable if the quantity of this mass is very large (equal to the population of the galaxy, which has a population of quadrillions of humans, inhabiting millions of star systems). The larger the number, the more predictable is the future.
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which is one of the first books I learned English on

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listen to Richard C. Hoagland, what he has to say about Sir Arthur C. Clarke here:

http://www.energeticforum.com/149282-post19.html

note the time wave theory seems to be compatible with Carl Calleman 9 Wave theory

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That is an interesting theory. I am not sure anyone knows what all happens in a vortex except maybe Schauberger. If you observe a fast moving river, where an obstacle partially blocks the flow of the river, it increases speed and pressure in that section. After it has exited the obstacle, it creates a vortex, where the increased speed and pressure start a spinning action where the exiting water is combining with the incoming water. This vortex whirlpool creates a vacuum of sorts and pulls all materials in close proximity into it. Any medium in a vortex is subjected to high speed and pressure and this rapid acceleration can very easily cause sound waves which could produce standing waves. A tornado has a whistling sound that can be heard for long distances. If we could harness and control a vortex in a machine of some type, it could produce more than enough power to accomodate any usage we might have. I have always considered the colder, denser air to be the key to self powering one. If we could reintroduce it into the vortex at the precise point, would it increase many times its present strength? Good Luck. stealth
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you should read this article found it on a thread (can't remember which one )





but here is the link the page for download

New Energy Technologies was a printed magazine published by Faraday Lab Ltd (The English version) in 2001-2005

new energy technologies, issue #1

just scroll down and press on download button

New Energy Technologies magazine
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Principle of correspondence, if this phenomenon arrives in the atmospheric "egg" , we could suppose that it happens on a smaller scale, within the Copper egg or the emf egg which contains the exact same ingredients found in the atmosphere...

in different portions, but there nonetheless...transmutation anyone

see: http://www.energeticforum.com/154181-post287.html

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The following picture of the Ankh Set up with the Emf Egg included...Hieroglyphic Style





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overlap all three you end up with the infinity sign





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Then he showed how 'engineered' anisotropic movement could help to attain 'thrust' with absolutely no chemical reaction through the ascending sized stacked balls, and you grasped it immediately, I was sitting in the corner and going 'so what it's just a trick.'
Let's change a little bit of perspective (that's the beauty of a fractal construct, it takes the shape you desire it to be as long as it is fractal ; principle of mentalism also called analogy )

Now imagine the Universe is a tree...



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How do you think trees get water from roots to leafs (pricinple of correspondence and polarity )

wood it anisotropic, Natural Antigravity Trees do it everyday


More on Why Tree Trunks Spiral

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When I worked for NOM 's Environmental Research Labs in Boulder, we were once asked why lightning sometimes spirals down the trunk of a tree. While the answer was not proven, we observed that the path of least resistance might follow the spiral grain of the wood (anisotropy ). I eventually found a tree with a spiral lightning mark and it followed the spiral grain exactly. One tree, of course, proves nothing.
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As Rodin has been saying, "everything is a coil".(Principle of mentalism )
That is a pretty profound statement.
which pretty much is the same think as saying everything is a fractal antenna (rodin's coil rated high in military test for antennas ).

If it is so, we should consider the whole universe as a cosmic antenna/coil, logic
now everything inside that cosmic coil is also a coil, so you have star coil, planet coil etc... and they all resonate to this "cosmic Schumann resonance"
or in other words we are all in direct harmonic relations with the rest of the universe, right?

now read this:

John W. Keely
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...When these harmonics form unisons or direct harmonic relations the two vibrating aggregates and their chords of vibration are said to be sympathetic to each other. This unison of frequency dictates that what happens to one vibratorily happens to the other simultaneously.
i let you ponder on that...

hint: think of cosmic communication, or Tesla's mars transmission



it also shows you the role played by water

The Universe



water is present everywhere



WATER IN THE UNIVERSE

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- Ben Rich ( a colleague of Dr Boyd ), the “Father of the Stealth Fighter-Bomber” and former head of Lockheed Skunk Works

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When Rich was asked how UFO propulsion worked, he said, “Let me ask you. How does ESP work?” The questioner responded with, “All points in time and space are connected?” Rich then said, “That’s how it works!”
Extraterrestrial UFO Are Real : Ben Rich Lockheed Skunk Works Director Admitted In His Deathbed Confession |Latest UFO News| UFO 2011 Sightings|Alien Pictures|2011 Solar Flares|Disclosure Project|Web Bot

Isn't he describing this:

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Just wanted to post this info because its representation is nothing more than a Fractal representation:

Multiverse = Many Worlds, Say Physicists - Technology Review



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a Different Universal Tree



"As above so Below, from within so without"

fyi: you are not different than a tree

Arterial tree - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




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