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Old 08-21-2011, 07:41 PM
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Ok guys I wound a coil I believe some will be interested in,
this is what I did
first wind right hand copper
second wind left hand iron
one layer of aluminum tape
one straight lenth of copper wire cleaned so as to make contact with the aluminum tape
third wind right hand copper
fourth wind left hand iron
another layer of aluminum tape

Im going to run winds in parallel with current running against each other negative through copper positive through iron

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so you'll be using two non-ferromagnetic conductors against ferromagnetic iron: i guess you are testing 3d electromagnetic and the skin effect....

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The apparent resistance of a conductor is always higher for a.c. than for d.c. The alternating magnetic flux created by an alternating current interacts with the conductor, generating a back e.m.f. which tends to reduce the current in the conductor. The centre portions of the conductor are affected by the greatest number of lines of force, the number of line linkages decreasing as the edges are approached. The electromotive force produced in this way by self-inductance varies both in magnitude and phase through the cross-section of the conductor, being larger in the centre and smaller towards the outside. The current therefore tends to crowd into those parts of the conductor in which the opposing e.m.f. is a minimum; that is, into the skin of a circular conductor or the edges of a flat strip, producing what is known as 'skin' or 'edge' effect. The resulting non-uniform current density has the effect of increasing the apparent resistance of the conductor and gives rise to increased losses....
...The magnitude and importance of the effect increases with the frequency, and the size, shape and thickness of conductor, but is independent of the magnitude of the current flowing.

It should be noted that as the conductor temperature increases the skin effect decreases giving rise to a lower than expected a.c. resistance at elevated temperatures. This effect is more marked for a copper conductor than an aluminium conductor of equal cross-sectional area because of its lower resistivity. The difference is particularly noticeable in large busbar sections.
4. Alternating Current Effects in Busbars

i found this here: Adept Alchemy (Robert A. Nelson): Transmutations of Carbon

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Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. Kervran, Dr. George Ohsawa sought to transmute sodium into potassium in vitro. The method revealed itself to him in a symbolic dream. Thus inspired, Dr. Ohsawa and Michio Kushi, et al., constructed an experimental electric discharge tube with copper (Yin) and iron (Yang) electrodes
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i would suggest printing geometric figures, just like the ancient alchemists.....

for instance the geometric form of a ferromagnetic ice than hit it with UV light while it freezes or before (see The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism starting with post#98

please read the entire article and think of what i just posted

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What is BioGeometry?

BioGeometry is remarkable for how vast the possibilities are for applying it in virtually any field you can name! Because BioGeometry deals with the fundamental energies of Creation, those which are essential to human health and higher consciousness, it can be used to support and empower many different approaches to energy work. What I find particularly valuable are the tools which BioGeometry offers so that anyone can work tangibly with different energies rather than "assume" the energies are present or just follow someone else's techniques and hope for the best! BioGeometry offers methods to directly detect, measure, create, and transmute specific qualities of energy, so that you really know the effects you are creating with your energy work. It really is a huge step forward in the human race’s ability to understand and work responsibly with energy fields. And I believe this is just the beginning; many of those who train in BioGeometry will use this knowledge to further advance humanity’s work with energy into even more advanced levels which most of us can’t even imagine today.

BioGeometry is a powerful science which shows how to use shapes, patterns, colors, sounds, and motion to create specific energy effects. It clearly identifies core principles as well as providing a wide range of practical techniques. BioGeometry does not ask for the student to take anything on faith, rather it provides the tools to directly detect and monitor the energies which shape the world around us. BioGeometry reveals publicly for the first time many of the ways which spiritual energy works in the world to create life, health, and consciousness, information which was previously restricted to small groups of spiritual initiates. Put simply, BioGeometry provides critical and unprecedented insights into the use of living energy for beneficial purposes; its simple but extremely powerful techniques can be used by anyone to help humans, animals, plants, and/or the environment.
Dr Ibrahim karim: Biogeometry & Biosignatures: Articles & Patents

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The impact of geometrical shapes on human energy systems has always been universally recognized. This awareness gradually disappeared, and our "modern" approach is to consider these ancient forms either as symbolic art without function, or attribute them to magical practices. Although the modern development and practices are not directly derived from Ancient Egypt, a very advanced know-how in this field is evident when we analyze and use the shapes that they have developed thousands of years ago..
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1) Negative green.
2) A higher harmonic of ultra-violet.
3) A higher harmonic of gold.
http://www.rexresearch.com/biogeom/wo2005062691.pdf

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homeopathic and fractals?

MonsieurM,

The thought occurred to me about homeopathic and fractals being connected in some fashion.

While viewing the thread:

Redox Signaling Molecules

I had the idea that fractals play a part in some fashion.

Creating a "stronger" homeopathic solution requires dilution, less is more.

People on a tight budget could stretch their ASEA product out as well as increase its strength.

How to make your own homeopathic remedies in a short time

This is the area on dilution:

How to: The procedure spelled out

HERE IS how to work on the ingredients, all of which are homeopathic remedies found in books of homeopathy: If you have only four of the five ingredients in your home, it may work well enough. But don't drop the salt. Pepper is to be there too. But "the more the merrier" up to a point. Set the limit at six ingredients, for example.

Mix your 3-4 ingredients in a bottle (50 ml is good). That is, about 7 drops or so in all, and a few grains of "this and that" from the list, starting from the top of the list and downwards, ordinarily. Add water: Fill half of the bottle with water and shake well. A small bottle (30 ml) will make the boiled water last longer, so that you can make more and higher potencies, if that seems to be fit.

Very much depends on how the bottle is shaken, according to homeopathy. The doctors Andrew Lockie and Nicola Geddes describe it in detail in their book [Cgh 20-21]. I'll describe the process I have advocated for people of many countries here:

1ST POTENCY IS MADE: You have mixed the ingredients and added water. Now shake the bottle violently for some time. I recommend a force equal to that of 3 kilograms falling 40 centimetres onto a firm book. That is, you dash the bottle, which you hold in your rubber-gloved hand, to something firm, and do it 30 times.

2ND POTENCY IS MADE: When you have shaken the bottle thirty times with enough force and speed (as specified), empty all of what is in it, but just a few drops. Leave three drops in the bottle, fill up with boiled water again, till the bottle is half full (or half empty). Three drops will do and is plenty. Now, shake again in the same way. When you have done it thirty times, you have come up with the second home potency, your H2 potency (H for "home" or "hand-shaken", just as you please)

3RD POTENCY: Let three drops remain in the bottle. Add water till half full, and shake 30 times again.

4TH POTENCY: When you pour out what's in the third potency bottle but for three drops, and shake the bottle once again as prescribed, you get the forth potency. This combined process of shaking and diluting is called succussion in homeopathy.

5TH POTENCY CAN BE USED AS A "MOTHER BLEND" TO GET MANY FUTURE BOTTLES FROM: I suggest you make a fifth potency too: Empty the 4th potency fluid from the bottle, but for three drops, fill up with water till half full and shake the dilution thirty times as before, just as prescribed. This gives you the fifth potency, which is perfect as a "mother blend" to keep for a long time, after you have tried out your home-made remedies or put faith in "homeopathy cook-books", like Boericke's Materia Medica.

PUT "ASIDE": Your fifth potency bottle is half full. If you want a set of potencies, like pharmacies have and homeopaths use, you may want to pour three drops from your 5th potency bottle into another small bottle (30 ml is enough still), fill the bottle half full with boiled water and shake as before: thirty times with enough force and speed - and then you have a sixth potency to go on with if you please.

The sixth potency does not contain significant amounts of the substances you started with at first, but the homeopaths claim the world over that it does not matter, and that here is a good potency to administer in something acute. Add "maybe" to it yourself.

You can preserve a fifth potency fluid - add some convenient preservative and keep it out of sunlight and heat. From this bottle you can from time to time pour 5-6 drops into another, empty flask of up to 100 to 200 ml - add water or ethanol or something even better, and shake. The "mother bottle" easily produces enough remedies to last you a life-time; at least many years.

6TH POTENCY - THE ONE TO USE: Pour 5 drops from your "mother bottle", that is, the fifth potency bottle with or without added alcohol or some other preservative that is not unhealthy, but safe. You may want to use a 100 ml flask this time, to save some efforts later. Add pure water till half full, shake well (30 times) as prescribed earlier, and there you have your home-opathic flask. When you have used this 6th potency homeopathic preparation, you should wash and rinse before re-using it: 5 drops from the "mother fluidum", add pure water till half full, shake as specificed, and you have your second flask of the "good stuff", or whatever you wish to call it.

Here is a short video of a similar technique:

How to make a Homeopathic remedy
How to make a Homeopathic remedy - YouTube

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IndianaBoys good to read you again...It is always a pleasure to read the infos you post

Indeed this method could be used to transfer physical information to water...I went digging a little bit and i found this:

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In the universe, energy permeates in that exists. The Ayurveda has always recognized that all forms of matter are simply manifestation of prana, the vital force of life flowing in this universal energy. Therefore, healing properties are not just found in plants but also in our natural surroundings, such as in metals, gems, and stones. Ancient rishis or sages of India saw and discovered the effects of the healing energy of these materials.
now gold is one of the best conductor there is ...correct

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Aside from wearing these metals on the body, you can also boil them in water, which become charged with health energy. Boil down to three out of four glasses of water. Filter it, keep it in a thermos, and drink it lukewarm or hot during the day. Drinking just a glass of metal-charged water first thing in the morning is good for health maintenance or curing ailments. In acute cases, this water maybe boil down to one glass or even half a glass. When you drink concentrated metal-charged water, avoid sour things like lemon, sour buttermilk, yogurt, tamarind, and others.

Metal-charged water is a must for the treatment of any problem involving improper circulation of the chi or subtle life energy, such as disease like high blood pressure, polio, rheumatism, arthritis, paralysis, cancer, and tumors.

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...Gold can be turned into ash when it buried directly on fire. Another way of harnessing its energy is by having gold-charged water. This is done by boiling 15 to 30 grams of pure 22-carat gold coins or ornaments (chain, ring, or bracelet without any stones) in four glasses of water. For acute cases, boil gold ornaments in two glasses of water until half the water evaporates.

The electronic energy of gold will enter the water during this process.
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So how about a little gold in boiled (under uv light) water then filtered and frozen



------ The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism

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It is further shown that the Bernal–Fowler–Pauling ice-rules model of ice behaves like a dielectric material, and matching the results of calculations on this model to experiment gives a dipole moment of 3.0 D.

frozen water and quartz have nearly the same dielectric constant.

the goal here is to transfer properties of certain material to water through the application of homeopathy
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this is with north down

will freeze again with south down

something else to show you,

it looks like waves coming out of one end of the coil,
very interesting
also notice the fractured ice is in a specific location around the coil, the A vector?
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something else to show you,

it looks like waves coming out of one end of the coil,
very interesting
also notice the fractured ice is in a specific location around the coil, the A vector?
My first reaction to seeing the ice was : Oh WOW !!!

this is very very interesting....I'll wait to see the result south down for comparison sake...but truly interesting

When you talk fracture, it means excess energy cracked the ice at that particular spot
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Self Assisted Oscillation in a Shorted Coil - Bucking Magnetic Field Oscillation - YouTube!
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When you talk fracture, it means excess energy cracked the ice at that particular spot
I agree, the vid is very interesting look at the magnetic model and the cracked ice
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the sound set up will allow you to determine if the water has changed properties...
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this is an amazing and very educating video on many levels, If I can insist on this because it answer Dr Feynman question, and once you have read it with an open mind you'll find the simplicity of these principles and yet completely revolutionary to my mind ; please take the time to read the Kybalion, at least for the sake of being on the same page ...find more info here The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism

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from the drawing shown on the vid the shorted coils (3min 36 ) the set up is similar to bashar coil (which is a variation of the Smith (Caduceus) Coil but shorted)



http://www.energeticforum.com/152814-post386.html

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Speaking of Homeopathy, i found this poster: Dr Quack uses Tesla set up to accomplish the info transfer:




Introducing the PHI & Fibonacci Scale of Remedies! - Homeopathy Forums - Page 1

and hold an behold:

The Structure Of Liquid Water; Novel Insights From Materials
Research; Potential Relevance To Homeopathy
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http://www.rustumroy.com/Roy_Structure%20of%20Water.pdf

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Guys watch this vid by Dr Quack (skip to 4min 13, that is the interesting part, and watch closely the water drop movement )

Introduction to the Modern Science of Homeopathy - YouTube

turn down the volume, music loud (i like it but loud nonetheless )

note: you are watching a fractal construct under the effect of vibration
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Guys watch this vid by Dr Quack (skip to 4min 13, that is the interesting part, and watch closely the water drop movement )

Introduction to the Modern Science of Homeopathy - YouTube

turn down the volume, music loud (i like it but loud nonetheless )

note: you are watching a fractal construct under the effect of vibration
I like the attitude
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Gold has been brought up many times, it has been valued over other metals throughout history why.

It has some particular quality's one is it doesn't reflect the electrons it absorbs them ----- electrodes - receptors \.

If we use a crystal to catch and harness the electron we need a material that will accept the electron without reflecting it, an intermediary between the crystal and wire conductor

Now you know why gold is so valuable and has always been so.

a hint gold is found in quartz-it can meld with a crystal structure
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from the pdf doc on structured water




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Gold has been brought up many times, it has been valued over other metals throughout history why.

It has some particular quality's one is it doesn't reflect the electrons it absorbs them ----- electrodes - receptors \.

If we use a crystal to catch and harness the electron we need a material that will accept the electron without reflecting it, an intermediary between the crystal and wire conductor

Now you know why gold is so valuable and has always been so.
hence the gold on the tip of the pyramid.....

so how about boiling some gold/copper/aluminium and test the water with one of your coils, if the structure is different so would be the traces of the waves seen in the ice (for the uv source, dilute NaCl in quartz container with water...see http://www.energeticforum.com/152892-post126.html )

the other alternative is using the permeability test

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Iv been thinking about melting gold and pouring into a mold, maybe I should let it cool using sound frequency's like Keely did, if everything worked on the same frequency the magnetic field, the ice,the electrodes,the coil we would have a resonating system.
that should go into a superconductive state.
its taking shape
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Another experiment Iv been thinking of, I want to run a current carrying wire through the center of the coil as it freezes, to see if the field lines are attracted to the wire.
To do experiments you have to wait for the ice to freeze so progress is slow, but by taking so long to freeze it gives the molecules time to organize.
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MonsieurM,

Here is a picture representing frozen colloidal gold.

Did it many years ago.

Created the colloidal gold using a plasma process.





Picture does not quite capture the fine detail of the spikes radiating out from the center.

It was quite beautiful.

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Iv been thinking about melting gold and pouring into a mold, maybe I should let it cool using sound frequency's like Keely did, if everything worked on the same frequency the magnetic field, the ice,the electrodes,the coil we would have a resonating system.
that should go into a superconductive state.
its taking shape

The experiment you plan on running, reminds me a little of Process for Altering the Energy Content of Dipolar Substances by James Y. JOHNSON (i'm not saying it is the same but worth to check it out, there maybe something to it )

James Y Johnson -- Dipolar resonance -- Anomalous dispersion bands


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Here is a picture representing frozen colloidal gold.

Did it many years ago.

Created the colloidal gold using a plasma process.



Picture does not quite capture the fine detail of the spikes radiating out from the center.

It was quite beautiful.

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Awesome, are those capacitor plates above and below the crystal structure?
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Here is a picture representing frozen colloidal gold.

Did it many years ago.

Created the colloidal gold using a plasma process.



Picture does not quite capture the fine detail of the spikes radiating out from the center.

It was quite beautiful.

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first of WOW , is it possible to reproduce it....
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I like days that turn into WOW days
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Awesome, are those capacitor plates above and below the crystal structure?
Dave45,

Sorry I did not give you more info.

The container is glass with about 2 ounces of colloidal gold fluid in it.

Was frozen in the refrigerator.

Shined an LED flashlight up through the bottom in a darkened room and then took the picture.

Best recollection was that as it froze, it did form a "bulge" on top with 1 tip.

At the time, did not pay much attention to it and wrote it off as the fan blowing on it in the freezer.

Will see if I can locate some of the gold a duplicate it possible.

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A very informative article here's a quote that caught my eye

Electrets may be produced by subjecting a fluid dielectric to a field and then solidifying it by freezing, evaporation, or coagulation.

Yea thats what Im talking about

Guys the answers are all here we just need to build it.
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Iv thought about using the light spectrum but thunderstorms work at night as well as daylight, so Iv put that aside for the moment, I really think it involves the magnetic field.
When I get discouraged and lose my way I just focus on the thunderstorm and realize it is possible.
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