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Yes, of course - Leedscalnin PHM. Thank you!
Now we know that it works.
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Well it seems a simple thing to replicate.
Eight coils wound like the Cook device in series around central coil on core.
...not forgetting that the cores need to be iron (not steel) and that
there are LR circuits here which need to run at resonance.

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Just because Tesla said something or BELIEVED it to be so does NOT make it so. Focus on the words....BELIEF...this means he had yet to prove his own theory in his mind. Don't get caught up mixing up beliefs as Fact just because Tesla said it and he was correct about other things!
I would agree we should look at the facts and maybe we could start with the present day beliefs in physics. Today they believe gravity is an attractive force between masses but they have no credible explanation for what gravity "is" only what it does. Today they believe a magnetic field is magical virtual photons which magically pop into and out of existence from multiple alternate universes, again they have no idea what a magnetic field "is" only what it does. Today they say particles such as electrons have a negaitive charge but they still have absolutely no idea where this "charge" came from or why it exists. In fact we have no more idea about how much of anything really works in nature fundamentally, as a fact, than we did 100 years ago in Tesla's time.

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Finally...as far as what Tesla BELIEVED about radium and it being a transformer....he was clearly wrong here wasnt he! If radioactive materials were truly transformers of cosmic energy as he suspected, then they should keep emitting energy forever because we are in the midst of a Universe under constant bombardment of various rays. Sadly...they do not keep putting out energy...they decay.
Was Tesla wrong -- clearly? I see very little that is clear in any sense of the word. What we are told is that mass and energy are conserved and we are also told that all matter is continually absorbing and radiating what we call energy. Now if matter is continually absorbing and radiating "energy" then where does this "energy" come from?
In any case I think your theory that a radioactive material absorbing energy from an external source should keep emitting energy forever is flawed because it assumes the radiation of energy/mass can have no effect on the mass over time.
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I don't remember where I heard it but I was listening to Robert Beck talk about his investigation into the Hubbard coil.

He and some people were with Hubbard conducting an investigation into his device. They made close observations of him and his device.

The jist of it was that he believed that the Hubbard coil was a device that only worked when Hubbard was around it. When HUbbard was there, it worked. When he left the room, it stopped working.

Beck also examined the devices of Daniel Pomerlou. He is autistic man that was able to make motors run just using his mind.

You can learn more about him here.

Directoryaniel Pomerleau Free Energy Coils - PESWiki

Robert Beck was a very careful and astute gentleman and scientist.

He was there and did hands on examination of these devices and they will not work for just anyone. They are drawing power through direct power of the inventors mind.

So I do not believe these devices and schematics will do any of you any good if you can't already do what Hubbard or Pomerlou can do with their minds. They are not going to work for just anyone no matter how exact you follow the plans for these devices.
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I would agree we should look at the facts and maybe we could start with the present day beliefs in physics. Today they believe gravity is an attractive force between masses but they have no credible explanation for what gravity "is" only what it does. Today they believe a magnetic field is magical virtual photons which magically pop into and out of existence from multiple alternate universes, again they have no idea what a magnetic field "is" only what it does. Today they say particles such as electrons have a negaitive charge but they still have absolutely no idea where this "charge" came from or why it exists. In fact we have no more idea about how much of anything really works in nature fundamentally, as a fact, than we did 100 years ago in Tesla's time.


Was Tesla wrong -- clearly? I see very little that is clear in any sense of the word. What we are told is that mass and energy are conserved and we are also told that all matter is continually absorbing and radiating what we call energy. Now if matter is continually absorbing and radiating "energy" then where does this "energy" come from?
In any case I think your theory that a radioactive material absorbing energy from an external source should keep emitting energy forever is flawed because it assumes the radiation of energy/mass can have no effect on the mass over time.
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Amen to that, you should check out these posts, you may not agree but there is something to it :

Trees as radiant energy collector

Trees as radiant energy collector

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Was Tesla wrong ? Maybe not.... Look at CFL bulb, there is a white coating inside. Does it light when bulb is not powered ? No. Does it light when bulb is plugged into power socket.Yes.There are substances which emmanate light as a reaction for fields or particles impact. Why not higher EM frequency like X-Rays ?

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Is the Sun Emitting a Mystery Particle? : Discovery News

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from : a better way to present the periodic table

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If you place an iron rod in a dark room and cause it to vibrate at first you'll only be able to tell it is vibrating by touching it.

Increasing the vibration to 32Hz will produce a loud and shrill sound and vibration can now be detected by both touch and hearing. Increase that vibration to 40Hz and you can no longer detect the vibration by touch or sound.

If you increase the vibration to 1.5MHz you cannot feel or hear the vibration but you can detect the vibration though the rise in temperature in the iron first warm and then the iron rod will glow red hot and can be detected by sight.

At 3MHz the rod is now producing violet light; increasing the vibration more will produce ultra-violet rays and other invisible radiations that can only be detected by special instruments.

There are so many "vibrations" flowing all around us that are invisible to our 5 senses who can tell how they affect us. Uranium emits and invisible radiation that will kill you. You cannot see it but it is there and kills. Who is to say how the other radiation affects the body and mind.

Isn't it possible that the mind radiates its own wireless transmissions that are received by other minds but we just are unaware of that as of yet. There is no scientific proof for or against this theory, yet so many people will just to the conclusion that it cannot exist. There are among the same people that would have disbelieved radio existed before it was proven that is does exist.

You MUST keep an open mind and use these methods as those successful have already used them to achieve success. Who are you willing to believe, those who have not succeeded or those who have?
Dr. Alexander Graham Bell

want to know how vast the electromagnetic spectrum is , Richard Hammonds does an excellent presentation (starts at 10 min):

YouTube - Invisible Worlds - Out of Sight 1/4.avi

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Was Tesla wrong ? Maybe not.... Look at CFL bulb, there is a white coating inside. Does it light when bulb is not powered ? No. Does it light when bulb is plugged into power socket.Yes.There are substances which emmanate light as a reaction for fields or particles impact. Why not higher EM frequency like X-Rays ?
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Oh dear it sounds like there's trouble in wunderland, I wonder what their going to do when they find out radioactivity in an object can be neutralized in a matter of hours, lol. You know it's getting harder and harder to believe anything mainstream science preaches anymore. The egomaniacs get up on their soapbox and tell us this is the way it is and this is how it must be because science say's so and if you don't believe us then you must be stupid or delusional. Then when they find their facts which were supposedly written in stone by the hand of god are not entirely true then they just say-- well that's science-- as if they had some credibility. I think when people stop treating science like a form of religion we will finally start learning things we never could have imagined.
Thanks for the link
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Oh dear it sounds like there's trouble in wunderland, I wonder what their going to do when they find out radioactivity in an object can be neutralized in a matter of hours, lol. You know it's getting harder and harder to believe anything mainstream science preaches anymore. The egomaniacs get up on their soapbox and tell us this is the way it is and this is how it must be because science say's so and if you don't believe us then you must be stupid or delusional. Then when they find their facts which were supposedly written in stone by the hand of god are not entirely true then they just say-- well that's science-- as if they had some credibility. I think when people stop treating science like a form of religion we will finally start learning things we never could have imagined.
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It is nothing new (from a better way to present the periodic table ) ancient scientist knew this


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relates also to Radioactive decay rates vary with the sun's rotation: research:


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Elaborating the Neoplatonist picture. Agrippa accepts the basic Neoplatonic framework sketched above. God has the Forms in his mind. God created "Angelical and Celestial secondary causes," beings Agrippa also calls the "Intelligences," and God "gives the seal of His Ideas to the Intelligences." The Intelligences then use the "heavens and stars as instruments" to send these copies of the Forms down to humans on the Earth. In exactly the way our souls/intellects control our bodies, the Intelligences -- the Celestial souls -- control the body (=the matter) of the universe. So just as my mind "sends commands" to my body in order for the mind to achieve its aims, so too do the Intelligences/ celestial souls use the stars to achieve their ends. Thus Agrippa agrees with Avicen[na], who says "whatever things are done here, must have been before in the motions and conceptions of the stars and orbes." Agrippa says that "quintessence" -- Aristotle's 5th element, aither -- is what conveys the Intelligences' power to material stuffs: the spirit is contained in "the rays of the stars."
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see also: How to build a water coil
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...not forgetting that the cores need to be iron (not steel) and that
there are LR circuits here which need to run at resonance.
What proof do you have of this? Steel is 99.8% iron, so I don't see your point.
As to the LR circuit, it might very well need one to become active, but not according to Cook or Leedskalnin.

Here is another overlooked discovery that brings the scientific priesthood into chin mumblings. Solar power without solar cells: A hidden magnetic effect of light could make it possible
If the magnetic moment is the carrier of energy so much energy, then we are on the right track with the above guys. Even Britten, rectifying the magnetic field to induce it back into the electric.
It really is magnetricity rather than negative electricity.
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What proof do you have of this? Steel is 99.8% iron, so I don't see your point.
The point is that iron sheds its magnetism quickly when the power
to its coil is removed. With steel, there is a lag. It is in the original
writings.

As for resonance, you will need to see for yourself.
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you could email the newspaper asking where to go for microfilm access to their archives.
good idea. I will give it a try
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The point is that iron sheds its magnetism quickly when the power
to its coil is removed. With steel, there is a lag. It is in the original
writings.

As for resonance, you will need to see for yourself.
If that is the case then ferrite would be the ideal thing to use.
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If that is the case then ferrite would be the ideal thing to use.
This could be an excellent idea. I am not too sure of the physics
of many materials. Possibly "black sand" packed in resin and all
those other exotic core materials.
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to avoid redundancies, i'm linking this thread:

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i posted a few infos on the linked thread you should check it out....
unfortunately not related to the words you are looking for
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Any news ?
boguslaw,

I'm heading to seattle in early August; one week from now. I'll do my best to find this info for you.

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I ask somebody located near Seattle to dig into archive of
The Post-Intelligencer (Seattle WA) for article from Thursday, July 29, 1920 about Hubbard generator. Please if you could find every possible copy of this article and resolve two most important words in it.
I have just writtent their executive editor, I will post any useful reply.
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A simple Tesla Coil with multiple secondaries?

As you can see in the schematics and some pictures of the hendershot transformer, it really looks like a Tesla coil but instead of having one secondary it has multiple secondaries.

Have anyone heard about someone that had used more than 1 secondaries in a Tesla coil? You know that there are different techniques to use the output energy from a Tesla coil secondary. A lot of people used it to make big sparks, but you can perform work with it.


My question right now is....
A ferrite rod (that acts like the core of the transformer) can act as a core? If I apply Pulsating DC in the primary, can I get dc or AC in the secondary?
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As you can see in the schematics and some pictures of the hendershot transformer, it really looks like a Tesla coil but instead of having one secondary it has multiple secondaries.

Have anyone heard about someone that had used more than 1 secondaries in a Tesla coil? You know that there are different techniques to use the output energy from a Tesla coil secondary. A lot of people used it to make big sparks, but you can perform work with it.


My question right now is....
A ferrite rod (that acts like the core of the transformer) can act as a core? If I apply Pulsating DC in the primary, can I get dc or AC in the secondary?
While it may work also I believe Hendershot and Hubbard devices were the same and a bit different kind It was also very close to Hans Cooler device.
Not just many secondaries but many transformers connected in series closed loop with Len'z rule eliminated.Radio frequency electrons speeding up in closed loop aka particle generator creating huge magnetic flux around center coil-capacitor charging it immediately with high current.
TPU is also similiar. It all ends with antenna system but here antenna is incorporated into oscillator system in very intimate manner compared to what Henry Moray,Don Smith, Kapanadze had done.

The noise around all those free energy devices is really big, I still cannot see the overall picture.

I think a big help would be to answer question why Tesla in his hydro-electric patent forced oil to circulate not only via spark gap but also via capacitor plates Seems he eliminated charge immediately when capacitors are charged !? How then he would be able to discharge them ?
It works because Kapanadze and now other russians replicated that hydro-device patent.
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For hydro-device I see only 3 solutions :

1. Capacitors were still charged but without electrons between capacitors plates
2. Device operation and oil flow were synchronized and replacement of oil between capacitors plates were done to avoid Len'z law in precise moment of electrical switching
3. Oil stored charge (electrons) and the amount of them accumulated over time. After some period of time capacitors were charged continously !?
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I cannot see the similarities with Hendershot device, it's true that Hubbard and Cooler Device are almost exactly the same thing. They have put the coils in 90 degrees steps.

Don Smith makes a similar test. Using a primary coil with scalar energy, he can amplify it while using more than 1 secondaries. In electromagnetism, more secondaries means same output (while using more than 1 secondary) but in scalar more secondaries means COP>1. You don't amplify power, you're amplifying voltage while using longitudinal waves.
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For hydro-device I see only 3 solutions :

1. Capacitors were still charged but without electrons between capacitors plates
2. Device operation and oil flow were synchronized and replacement of oil between capacitors plates were done to avoid Len'z law in precise moment of electrical switching
3. Oil stored charge (electrons) and the amount of them accumulated over time. After some period of time capacitors were charged continously !?
boguslaw, did you check out this post: Oil Water and Energy -

Trees as radiant energy collector

it may give you a clue on why tesla used oil....

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tests of the coil show a current of 280 amperes and 125 volts
That means 35 KiloWatt. Too much energy to flow in that thin wire. If we read more the article he says that he needed to stop his transformer because it got very hot.


A simple experiment that has been shown to work (check mopozco's channel), is to build a tesla coil and in the secondary you can use wireless longitudinal induction. Use a pancake coil as a transmitter, and one pancake coil as a receiver. You'll see how using only pure voltage you can perform work. Then you need to try the same experiment using more than 2 receivers. If they're in resonance, you should be able to magnify energy several times.
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the two words are "house light-ing" circuit. It was smeared but I had another person verify with me and we both concur.
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the two words are "house light-ing" circuit. It was smeared but I had another person verify with me and we both concur.
Thank you Shawn for taking the time to figure out the 2 missing words, now we know it is "house light-ing" circuit....much appreciated
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Thank You very much ! That was unexpected ! I mean..unexpected two words . Once again, thank You
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:08 AM
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Yeah, it's not problem. I was in the Seattle are anyway. I called the newspaper, which is no longer a newspaper. They seem to only run online ads now. They referred me to the Central Seattle Public Library. I called them and they sent me to the historical section on the 9th floor at 1000 4th Ave. It's amazing the whole building, all ten floors, is one big library. I talked to the side desk and they sent me to a microfilm machine with the entire month of July 1920. They had new machines so it was microfilm and not micro fische. I went to the end and of the film and read the article. I had to use light enhancements and magnification to read it. However, it was still discernable. The article said that the entire thing was only 11 inches by 14 inches and put out something like 120 volts and 230 amps. He hooked it to a boat engine and ran the boat at ten knots. The article said that the entire thing was inert until he touchedfor a few seconds with a common house lighti-ing circuit. This reminded me of John hutchinson using a 12 volt dc adapter, with the wires cut, to polarize his crystal cells. 12 volts causes 1 volts. I have a feeling that both John's used higher voltage and amperage to polarize both of their batteries in a 12 to 1 ratio. But that is just a guess. However, not an unfounded guess.
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Yeah, it's not problem. I was in the Seattle are anyway. I called the newspaper, which is no longer a newspaper. They seem to only run online ads now. They referred me to the Central Seattle Public Library. I called them and they sent me to the historical section on the 9th floor at 1000 4th Ave. It's amazing the whole building, all ten floors, is one big library. I talked to the side desk and they sent me to a microfilm machine with the entire month of July 1920. They had new machines so it was microfilm and not micro fische. I went to the end and of the film and read the article. I had to use light enhancements and magnification to read it. However, it was still discernable. The article said that the entire thing was only 11 inches by 14 inches and put out something like 120 volts and 230 amps. He hooked it to a boat engine and ran the boat at ten knots. The article said that the entire thing was inert until he touchedfor a few seconds with a common house lighti-ing circuit. This reminded me of John hutchinson using a 12 volt dc adapter, with the wires cut, to polarize his crystal cells. 12 volts causes 1 volts. I have a feeling that both John's used higher voltage and amperage to polarize both of their batteries in a 12 to 1 ratio. But that is just a guess. However, not an unfounded guess.
,Shawn
Shawn, have you watched the vid i posted in this post, what you said reminded me of it

Harvesting Energy From the Sun Using Crystals

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