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If you look at the picture, it mention that both object have to resonate to the same frequency; well you don't have that problem with trees:

see post 75 and 76

http://www.energeticforum.com/143047-post75.html


The Magnetic Resonance Amplifier (i think if you replace the coil with a caduceus coil, you'd get a whole lot more juice)

Joel McClain & Norman Wootan: Magnetic Resonance Amplifier ~ Collected Papers


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With low-level ultrasonic input signals, the Magnetic Resonance Amplifier (MRA) produces usable direct current power at levels above unity. This circuit is based upon the work and theories of John Ernst Worrell Keely, and is offered into the public domain in his memory.....
....In the MRA schematic below, there is a tunable low-power oscillator which supplies a signal to one side of a barium titanate transducer. The opposite side of the transducer is connected to a primary coil which is wrapped around a barium ferrite magnet core. The opposite end of the primary goes back to the oscillator.
.....The MRA is a series resonant LC circuit in which power gain is attainable as a result of the increase in effective impedance under certain operating conditions. When the series impedance increases, primary current is reduced. When the power available from the secondary coil either remains the same or increases as the primary circuit impedance increases, a power gain occurs.





Note: the application of a coil inside a coil design is again being used in this experiment

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The caduceus coil illustrated in Fig.1, basically consists of ordinary insulated copper wire wound in a double-helix around a ferrite core. THIS COIL HAS REPEATEDLY BEEN FOUND TO VIOLATE ESTABLISHED LAWS OF ELECTROMAGNETICS AND HERTZIAN WAVE THEORY WHEN A HIGH FREQUENCY CURRENT IS INJECTED INTO IT....
....First. This apparatus has zero impedance - unlike an ordinary coil. when fed electrical energy the wire in the Tensor coil does not get hot.

Secondly. It has infinite resonance - unlike an ordinary coil which will resonate chiefly at its natural fundamental frequency and weakly on the second or third harmonic, the Tensor coil is capable of resonating strongly on any number of frequencies randomly spaced in the spectrum. The signal pumped into such a coil strangely enough cannot be quantified (detected) by standard RF (radio frequency) detection apparatus. Many "Ham" radio operators and electronic technicians who have used these coils, are completely baffled by them
http://www.energeticforum.com/143400-post85.html


update:

In the The Magnetic Resonance Amplifier, a barium titanate transducer is used here, you can replace it with tourmaline

tourmaline

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Inspired by the previous experiment, I built a weird double caduceus coil:

first i built 2 mobius coil: Mobius Coil Tutorial

Then i made them into 2 overlapping caduseus coils, the trick is to get the crossing of the secondary coil right on the opposite side of the primary coil's crossing



now i'll see what easy test i can do on them



not my best work but you get the idea
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Ok, Here is a simple experiment i did with the mobius-Caduceus Coil:

I wrap it around a open ended plastic tube (one end of the coil dipping in water and the other vertical like an antenna), and plunged it in a glass of Alkaline Water for 24 hours. I noticed after that a cluster of bubbles around the coil only. I then tried the same experiment with the double mobius-Caduceus coil, but this time with a test tube filled with acidic water plunged in alkaline water (one coil's end dipped in acidic water, while the other used as antenna, same for the pther coil but dipped in alkaline water). this time the bubbles formed in the walls of the glass and around the coils...Anyway just wanted to share this info with you

up next try the double coil with the open ended tube

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more pictures of single and double mobius caduceus coil:







i think you can see very well the cluster of bubbles in the double coil


I'll try the same set up with tap water...we'll see...

note: the black thing is just tape (i had a small crack on the test tube so i put tape on it to prevent any leak)

just started this experiment, i ll check on it every hour to see if there is any evolution

(what you see here is the alkaline water in blue (few drops of iodide), yellowish is acid water (put more drops to show the contrast)








After

the acid (yellow) is starting to turn light blue while the alkaline took a lighter blue color (while still more bluish than the acid in the test tube)




Here I am comparing the result of the acid water inside the test tube with another experiment (open ended tube) which had only acid water inside, notice the clear difference between the two water bodies...

note: both experiments were started at the same time placed on the same place and exposed to the sun



the sun is almost out




I forgot to mention it but initial acid ph: 3.4 / alkaline ph: 10.1


I hope that after these simple experiments, you are intrigued enough to explore the electromagnetic properties of such a design ....

Felix Ehrenhaft: Magnetic Current --- 9 articles

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MonsieurM, I am unable to keep up with the post's you make at the moment.

Anyway I am almost ready to start something with a tree. My experiments with the wireless transmitter has given me an idea. I got out a very small cap pulser i made over a year ago for plate "P" experiments, it is 4.4 uf neon fired SCR pulser. I connected it to my wireless receiver and it is cracking out a very sharp pulses a bit quicker than once a second and is actually charging a battery when it started to rain the tempo of the discharges picked up significantly it almost doubled for a little while. I was waiting for it to rain to see if it would affect the discharge rate, then it happened which gave me a big smile . So I am thinking that the receiver may in fact pick up environmental energy as well as the transmitted energy, (the kinetic energy from the rain impacting the roof and stuff converted to charge on the toroid) I'll test that later. The impulses are so sudden they are affecting the computer just like a small spark gap. I have video soon.

I think i will wind a small receiver with all three coils but the tree will have the coil wound like a toroid around it like you showed before. This will excite the coil "B" and so on to Coil "A" which is closely coupled to Coil "C" but not mutual coupling. The output of coil "C" should then be at a resonable voltage to charge a cap to over neon fireing voltage but with some oomf behind it too.

Video of the cap pulser working from the receiver very soon.

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Here's the video clip, the camera shutter isn't fast enough to catch and record all the flashes but they can be heard and seen with the naked eye. The battery has charge up from 12.68 volts to 12.75 volts in about an hour.

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That is quite alright, you know as they say, "all roads lead to Rome". The purpose of these posts is so you can come back and get inspired by the info i post. I have been following your posts on the Open source Project thread ( Open Source Project for Tesla/Jackson Wireless Transmission ) , and I am quite excited to see how you will go about your various testings...

can't wait to see your testing results

ps: Do you intend on grounding your Antenna to the Dam? if so I would recommend using another coil (caduceus anyone ):



see http://www.energeticforum.com/143400-post85.html



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Now comes along Mr Jones with his new invention, showing us how to use a concentrated underground aerial that all of s can use in every city without any trouble whatsoever.
...One sleepless night visions began to parade before my half-conscious vision and amongst the crowd was a coil of wire rolling merrily along --- Ah! The problem was solved…

In the morning I went forth with vim and vigor to plant some coils in old Mother Earth. Finding labor scarce decided to throw them into the lake for a trial. Ouch! Then the fun began. Now to get back to business we will begin with the first experiment carried out at this lake, in order to prove my sanity.
James H. Rogers: Underground & Underwater Radio Antenna

just to give you an idea (12900 km cube of water present in the atmosphere )

Global distribution of atmospheric water:



The Water Cycle: Water Storage in the Atmosphere, from USGS Water Science for Schools

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One more observation I made about the Caduceus coil while building one; Hasn't anyone noticed that a 2D projection (the shadow if you prefer) of the coil is actually a sin wave



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Yes it is two sine wave's but the peaks are in phase but the sine wave's are crossed, wow that is wierd alright, everthing wierd is good as far as I can tell though, so far.

Good observation.
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I wonder what is the "shadow" of other coils and if they resemble any known wave figure ?


use a light to project the shadow on the wall (the question remains at what angle should the light hit the coil , that is why experiments are made for )


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As i was searching for some more info to provide you guys with on advancing our research, I stumbled on this little info which i thought it was worth sharing, especially after i learned about the caduceus coil

Richard DAVIS

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The Problem:

To develop an electrical resistor that has no residual mutual- or self-inductance at high frequencies.

The Solution:

A Moebius strip made of insulated resistive materials with electrical leads attached directly opposite one another provides a noninductive, nonreactive resistor which is simple, inexpensive, and flexible in usage, and can be made to almost any desired size and shape....
....Two ribbon conductors of equal length are affixed on opposite ends of a strip of dielectric. The assembly is then given a single twist and the ends are joined to form a Moebius surface. The ends of the conductors are soldered together and the resistor terminals are attached to the directly opposed solder joints. Current applied to the terminals will travel in opposite directions, so that the electromagnetic fields cancel each other, resulting in an essentially noninductive, nonreactive resistor with a low time constant. Bifilar wire may be used instead of resistive ribbon, eliminating the need for a center dielectric strip. Thin film conductors on flat surfaces can also be used to make Moebius resistors.

Two or more sets of resistive wire may be mounted laterally on the same nonconductive strip, with about 1/16-inch spacing, and connected to form multi-Moebius resistors in one unit. There is no change in the time constant of the individual resistors, nor does one in any way affect the operation of the others, even when they are assembled in parallel or series.

The performance of the Moebius resistor is unaffected by its form, size, or length. Once it is connected into a Moebius shape, it can be folded or around around a cylindrical core or a card, or even into a ball, resulting in compact packaging of the resistor for use in miniaturized circuits. The Moebius resistor does not couple to metallic objects, external fields, or itself. When the bridge is nulled the resistor can be handled or changed in form without disturbing the balance. The conductors must not be touched and the spacing between them must not be altered.


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....First. This apparatus has zero impedance - unlike an ordinary coil. when fed electrical energy the wire in the Tensor coil does not get hot.

Secondly. It has infinite resonance - unlike an ordinary coil which will resonate chiefly at its natural fundamental frequency and weakly on the second or third harmonic, the Tensor coil is capable of resonating strongly on any number of frequencies randomly spaced in the spectrum. The signal pumped into such a coil strangely enough cannot be quantified (detected) by standard RF (radio frequency) detection apparatus. Many "Ham" radio operators and electronic technicians who have used these coils, are completely baffled by them
http://www.energeticforum.com/143400-post85.html

I remember reading about you guys having the kind of problem being described...well enjoy

Richard L. Davis: Non-Inductive Resistor (Moebius loop)
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Ok, remember this set up:



well, i thought it would be a good idea to see what happens when you connect both "aerial" antennas to the wall socket (of course using a power cord i got from a lamp, ), anyway, as soon as i turn the power on, immediately
an excessive amount of bubbles started forming (i filmed it, i'll try to post it), and a green foam formed on top of the water, and the glass was really hot (left it on for 1 min)....

from THE STUBBLEFIELD PAPERS

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It describes a device which uses a copper coil wound together with an iron coil side by side which is immersed in water. So far so good. The water as an electrolyte would cause the iron and copper to react with each other creating a galvanic element capable of generating electricity. Next he tells us that the copper wire must be insulated! From the iron wire! He also states that insulating the iron wire has no detrimental effect on the operation of the device.
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In the video you'll see two colors different from before, because i used Phenol red to mark the color difference in ph (note it is blue because of the presence of chlorine in acid water)
(at 5 sec, i let the current pass) The haze you see are the bubbles formed

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I wrap it around a open ended plastic tube (one end of the coil dipping in water and the other vertical like an antenna), and plunged it in a glass of Alkaline Water for 24 hours. I noticed after that a cluster of bubbles around the coil only. I then tried the same experiment with the double mobius-Caduceus coil, but this time with a test tube filled with acidic water plunged in alkaline water (one coil's end dipped in acidic water, while the other used as antenna, same for the other coil but dipped in alkaline water). this time the bubbles formed in the walls of the glass and around the coils...Anyway just wanted to share this info with you



I hope someone will try to reproduce this and let me know how it goes...

from THE STUBBLEFIELD PAPERS

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It describes a device which uses a copper coil wound together with an iron coil side by side which is immersed in water. So far so good. The water as an electrolyte would cause the iron and copper to react with each other creating a galvanic element capable of generating electricity. Next he tells us that the copper wire must be insulated! From the iron wire! He also states that insulating the iron wire has no detrimental effect on the operation of the device.

ps: make sure your wires are well insulated
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Based on the video i just posted, and the principle of electro-culture:

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Introduction

The application of electricity, magnetism, monochrome light, and sound can stimulate the growth of plants to a great extent. This little-known technology, called Electro-culture, can accelerate growth rates, increase yields, and improve crop quality. Electro-culture can protect plants from diseases, insects and frost. These methods also can reduce the requirements for fertilizer or pesticides. Farmers can grow bigger and better crops in less time, with less effort, and at a lower cost.

The several approaches to Electro-culture include: antennas, static electricity, direct and alternating current, magnetism, radio frequencies, monochrome and intermittent lighting, and sound. The energies are applied to the seeds, plants, soil or the water and nutrients. Robert A. Nelson


You could recreate the same experiment with the sun's electromagnetic rays.

Electro-Culture

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Maybe you can test without copper, with selenoid and mobius with capacitor?
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Could you elaborate so i can try to reproduce it ?
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A video i found on youtube about Caduceus Coil:

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The Hyper Dimensional Resonator use an 115V AC electric current to generate the magnetic field. This is rectified to DC by six rectifier diodes and sent via a caduceus coil to a copper magnet wire wound around a soft iron core. It is my belief that the caduceus coil generates scalar waves.
YouTube - ‪HDR versus magnet‬‏

YouTube - ‪Lenz's Law - Caduceus Coil - Bedini - Perpetual Motion Holder - Leedskalnin Montage‬‏
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Let's get back to our subject at hand: Trees as radiant energy collector

I would like you to have a look at the following:

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Abstract --- An earth battery which includes a first electrode which is a veined material located in the earth, (a tree for instance) a second electrode electrically connected to the surface of the earth and disposed in a hole which extends from the surface of the earth into the first electrode, an electrolyte disposed in the hole and in contact with the first and second electrodes, and means for electrically connecting the first electrode to the surface of the earth. A seam of coal is preferred as the first electrode. A method of mining metals located in the earth using the earth battery and a method of drilling holes in the earth are also disclosed.


list of all type of earth batteries:

Earth Battery Patents

see the first electrode (ie the tree )




Justin CHRISTOFLEAU -- Electroculture book & patents


Note: All these great discoverer have succeeded in reverse engineering Nature's work, and here we are trying to re-reverse engineer these great inventions in order to use Nature's Antennas to capture/transmit/converse/transport, and all it takes is the success of one experiment (a small Domino that is reproducible)- To you all Neo-Alchemist of modern times, you may not know it yet, but you are doing Nature's Work.


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Could you elaborate so i can try to reproduce it ?
Replace the mobius with simple coil, put capacitor in mobius end, and lastly, try without any copper wire at all.
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Replace the mobius with simple coil, put capacitor in mobius end, and lastly, try without any copper wire at all.

Will do...

note: what would you guys recommend for nonconductive strip, i was thinking electrical tape in several layers could make for some good insulating strip in the Mobius Resistance and for the conductive material maybe aluminum or just two copper wires


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Actually, I had an epiphany, I just thought of the perfect conducting material and actually it is something scientist just found out about and you can reproduce it....

So for the Mobius Resistance, You'd Need:

Electric Insulating Tape

and GRAPHENE:

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Not only is graphene the thinnest possible material that is feasible, but it's also about 200 times stronger than steel and conducts electricity better than any material known to man—at room temperature.
Graphene Will Change the Way We Live | Dr. Kaku's Universe | Big Think

Here is a video on how to make Graphene, using your electrical Tape

YouTube - ‪What is Graphene?‬‏

YouTube - ‪Making Graphene 101, Ozyilmaz' Group‬‏

YouTube - ‪Bottle plasma reactor - Part 1‬‏

(there are more vid on youtube)
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Will do...

note: what would you guys recommend for nonconductive strip, i was thinking electrical tape in several layers could make for some good insulating strip in the Mobius Resistance and for the conductive material maybe aluminum or just two copper wires
Layering metal/insulation will do something else.

I think copper and aluminium will produce different effect.
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Layering metal/insulation will do something else.

I think copper and aluminium will produce different effect.
So you are suggesting i try both designs, and see how it goes...
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As I was checking out Farmhand's experimentation , a question popped in my head, has anyone ever connected an oscilloscope to a tree and see what type of waveform it produces...Why you ask? Because if you can match that resonance/waveform , you'd be able to turn the tree into an antenna


also:

a couple of vid on Victor Schauberger: (it is in German, but watch the 1st vid starting at 8:00 min)

YouTube - ‪Victor Schauberger‬‏

YouTube - ‪Viktor Schauberger Die Natur kapieren und kopieren part 1 von 8‬‏



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Viktor Schauberger; the Water Wizard
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Cool

updated How to build a water coil

As you will see I love to come up with new experiments (sorry for the overload, just need to put it out there maybe someone could benefit from it )

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A Moebius strip made of insulated resistive materials with electrical leads attached directly opposite one another provides a noninductive, nonreactive resistor which is simple, inexpensive, and flexible in usage, and can be made to almost any desired size and shape....
....Two ribbon conductors of equal length are affixed on opposite ends of a strip of dielectric. The assembly is then given a single twist and the ends are joined to form a Moebius surface. The ends of the conductors are soldered together and the resistor terminals are attached to the directly opposed solder joints. Current applied to the terminals will travel in opposite directions, so that the electromagnetic fields cancel each other, resulting in an essentially noninductive, nonreactive resistor with a low time constant. Bifilar wire may be used instead of resistive ribbon, eliminating the need for a center dielectric strip. Thin film conductors on flat surfaces can also be used to make Moebius resistors.

Two or more sets of resistive wire may be mounted laterally on the same nonconductive strip, with about 1/16-inch spacing, and connected to form multi-Moebius resistors in one unit. There is no change in the time constant of the individual resistors, nor does one in any way affect the operation of the others, even when they are assembled in parallel or series.

The performance of the Moebius resistor is unaffected by its form, size, or length. Once it is connected into a Moebius shape, it can be folded or around around a cylindrical core or a card, or even into a ball, resulting in compact packaging of the resistor for use in miniaturized circuits. The Moebius resistor does not couple to metallic objects, external fields, or itself. When the bridge is nulled the resistor can be handled or changed in form without disturbing the balance. The conductors must not be touched and the spacing between them must not be altered.



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Kelvin water dropper

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The simplest setup for this is as pictured at right. A reservoir has two holes that drip water (or other liquid). The streams of dripping water each pass through a conducting ring (replace with one or two mobius strip), and land in a bucket. The buckets must be electrically isolated from each other and from their environment. Similarly, the rings must be electrically isolated from each other and their environment. The left ring is electrically connected with (wired to) the right bucket. And the right ring is wired to the left bucket. It is essential that each ring be placed around the point at which the stream of water passing through it first breaks into drops.

If the buckets are metal (conducting) the wires may be attached to the buckets. Otherwise, the bucket-end of each wire can just sit in its bucket, as long as it is contacting the water in the bucket.


Kelvin water dropper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Large pulsed-power systems normally use a solid capacitive primary storage and a water capacitor for secondary storage. It is shown that the electrical breakdown strength is increased and the maximum storage time is enhanced from the microsecond level to the millisecond level when the water is replaced by a water/methanol mixture. The increased time scale in the second storage enables the use of an inductive primary storage. The mixing of methanol in the water decreases the relative permittivity. However, due to the increased electrical breakdown strength, a higher energy density is nevertheless possible. Previous work with water/ethylene glycol has manifested the problem of charge injection that occurs when energy is stored for millisecond time scales at high electrical stress. Water/methanol mixturesshow less tendency for charge injection and a better ability to store energy at millisecond time scales. © 2003 American Institute of Physics.
you could try also a water/methanol mixture Kelvin Experiment

or just a water/methanol Capacitor to charge the energy produced by the electrostastic created by water (or water/methanol) drops


YouTube - ‪Lord Kelvin Water Dropper/ Schauberger Waterthread Experiment‬‏

Schauberger take on Lord Kelvin Experiment

YouTube - ‪The Extraordinary Nature of Water -Viktor Schauberger 6/6‬‏

Dielectric Study of Water-methanol Mixtures for Use in Pulsed-power

http://www.el.angstrom.uu.se/Meny/ar...study%20of.pdf

Velocity Compression in Cylindrical Capacitor Electrospray of Methanol-Water Mixtures

http://www.gwu.edu/~vertes/publicat_html/ac990283h.pdf

note: from How to build a water coil

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We made it horizontal. We use copper pipe to twist the water output to counter clockwise rotation, then to use the output to make a big clockwise water vortex on a bucket with small hole in the middle. Some people who try this report effects usually associated to m-state.
Have you tried the Kelvin Experiment on your M state Water?


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I would to introduce you to anther great Discoverer

Georges Lakhovsky


The Lakhovsky Coil


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The content described experiments used to determine the origin of the life force. I was especially interested in the fact that back in the 1920's and 1930's machines were being developed which could heal with electrical oscillating waves and the manipulation of their frequencies. It was fascinating how Lakhovsky experimented on plants to determine what contributed to the development of disease in order to prove his theories.

He wanted to prove his theory that life giving radiation came from outside someone as opposed to the radiation coming from within. He developed an experiment using five plants and injected them with Cancer cells. He then waited until a cancerous knob grew on the sides of each plant. He then took one of the plants and put a copper wire around it with a dielectric stuck into the soil with the copper secured through the dielectric. He theorized that copper wire worked as a small oscillator. Within two weeks the plants without the copper wire had died. But, the plant with the copper wire around it was still OK. When he touched the Cancerous knob it fell off the plant. After a month the plant was totally healthy.
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Other contributors to the Borderlands Handbook, such as Eric Dollard, Tom Brown, Peter Lindemann, Michael Theroux and Jorge Resines suggested circuit designs and materials that are probably closer to Lakhovsky's original equipment. The MWO Handbook is the best source of information that I'm aware of for building the Multi-Wave Oscillator. For more information about the MWO Handbook
Georges Lakhovsky, Bioelectric Pioneer

Lakhovsky Oscillating Coil

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Noble Realms / Lakhovsky coils[

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After reading up in the Integratron, I learned more about the healing device called "Multiple Wave Oscillator" by Lakhovsky. It was a set of concentric circular antennas connected to a Tesla coil (high voltage generator). The various circular antenna segments would send out specific wavelengths of energy. Here is a modern implementation:


same test (kelvin experiment) could be applied here, drops of water passing through the open ends

if my instinct is correct, you could stack a bunch of Lakhovsky coils on a tree ;the gap following the spiraling water tube

weird coincidence:



just a reminder:

George O. SQUIER

Tree Antennas






a diagrammatic view of a preferred form of an arrangement of transmission sets embodying my invention.



George O. Squier ~ Trees as Antennas ( Scientific American, June 14, 1919 & British Patent Specification # 149,917)


Patents by George O. Squire:

Apparatus for using telephone-subscribers' loops for transmission and reception of broadcasting
SQUIER GEORGE O
EC: H04H1/08 IPC: H04H1/08; H04H1/04
US1742422
1930-01-07

Apparatus for effecting electrical signaling
SQUIER GEORGE O; LOUIS COHEN
EC: H04L27/06 IPC: H04L27/06; H04L27/06
US1608252
1926-11-23

Aerial attachment device for radiofrequency signal systems
SQUIER GEORGE
EC: H01Q1/46 IPC: H01Q1/46; H01Q1/44
Publication info: US1584197
1926-05-11

Electrical signaling
SQUIER GEORGE O; MAUBORGNE JOSEPH O
EC: H01F21/02 IPC: H01F21/02; H01F21/02
US1641608
1927-09-06

Apparatus for electrical signaling
SQUIER GEORGE
EC: H04B1/034 IPC: H04B1/034; H04B1/02
US1531629
1925-03-31

Improvements in the Art of Telegraphy
SQUIER GEORGE OWEN; AUSTIN LOUIS WINSLOW
EC: H04J1/00 IPC: H04J1/00; H04J1/00
GB108763
1917-08-23

Improvements in the Art of Electrical Signalling
SQUIER GEORGE; AUSTIN LOUIS WINSLOW
EC: H04J1/00 IPC: H04J1/00; H04J1/00
GB108230
1917-08-02

Improvements in Duplex and Multiplex Telegraphy
SQUIER GEORGE; COHEN LOUIS
EC: H04J1/00 IPC: H04J1/00; H04J1/00
GB103771
1917-02-08

Combined sound and light distributing apparatus
SQUIER GEORGE
EC: F21V33/00; H05K11/00 IPC: F21V33/00; H05K11/00; F21V33/00 (+1)
US1999579
1935-04-30

Radio signaling apparatus
SQUIER GEORGE
EC: H04B3/56 IPC: H04B3/56; H04B3/54
US1791541
1931-02-10

Improvements in or relating to Receiving Systems for Radio Telegraphy or Telephony
SQUIER GEORGE
EC: H01Q1/46; H04H1/04 IPC: H01Q1/46; H04H1/04; H01Q1/44 (+1)
GB191417487
1914-11-19

Improvements in or relating to Radio-telegraphic and Radio-telephonic Receiving Systems
SQUIER GEORGE
EC: H04M11/06 IPC: H04M11/06; H04M11/06
GB191403191
1915-02-08

Improvements in or connected with Multiplex Telephony and Telegraphy
SQUIER GEORGE
EC: H04J1/00 IPC: H04J1/00; H04J1/00
GB191030003
1911-12-27

Improvements in or relating to Receiving Systems for Radio Telegraphy or Telephony
SQUIER GEORGE
EC: H01Q1/46; H04H1/04 IPC: H01Q1/46; H04H1/04; H01Q1/44 (+1)
GB191417487
1914-11-19

Improvements in or relating to Radio-telegraphic and Radio-telephonic Receiving Systems
SQUIER GEORGE
EC: H04M11/06 IPC: H04M11/06; H04M11/06
GB191403191
1915-02-08

Improvements in or connected with Multiplex Telephony and Telegraphy
SQUIER GEORGE
EC: H04J1/00 IPC: H04J1/00; H04J1/00
GB191030003
1911-12-27

Improvements in or connected with Telegraphic Apparatus
CREHORE ALBERT CUSHING (US); SQUIER GEORGE
GB189919867
1900-10-03

Improvements in Telegraphic Apparatus
CREHORE ALBERT CUSHING (US); SQUIER GEORGE
GB189918980
1900-09-20

Improvements in Telegraphic Apparatus
CREHORE ALBERT CUSHING (US); SQUIER GEORGE
GB189917722
1900-09-01

Improvements in Submarine Cable Telegraphs
CREHORE ALBERT C (US); SQUIER GEORGE
GB189823556
1900-02-08

Method and apparatus for using telephone subscribers' loops for transmission and reception of broadcasting
SQUIER GEORGE
EC: H04B3/56; H04H1/04 IPC: H04B3/56; H04H1/04; H04B3/54 (+1)
FR644877
1927-10-16

TELEPHONE AND BROADCASTING SYSTEM
SQUIER GEORGE
CA285479
1928-12-11

HIGH FREQUENCY CURRENT SIGNALLING
SQUIER GEORGE
CA244330
1924-11-11

ELECTRIC SIGNALLING SYSTEM
SQUIER GEORGE
CA233299
1923-08-07

TREE TELEPHONY AND TELEGRAPHY
SQUIER GEORGE
CA232487
1923-07-03

with the knowledge we have today i think we can improve on GEORGE SQUIER's invention

wouldn't it be awesome to talk to your family using a tree
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TIME LAPSE:

oak tree

YouTube - ‪One Year Time Lapse, Oak Tree Timelapse‬‏

vortex motion and spiral climbing by Vine (nature at its best )

YouTube - ‪Twining motion of vines‬‏

doc on plant's strength (i would recommend you watch the whole doc, but i don't know if you have the patience of sitting through a doc in french) just watch from 5:00 min to 6:00 min pay attention to the wave like shapes

YouTube - ‪La force cacheΜ�e des plantes - Comme des beΜ‚tes (arte)‬‏

side note

a Carnivorous plant (notice the cone shape, if you look closely it follows a spiral )



Rat-eating plant named after David Attenborough | Mail Online

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MonsieurM,

Do appreciate your posts.

Have you seen:

The Secret Life Of Plants (part 1 of 11) - Music by Stevie Wonder
YouTube - ‪The Secret Life Of Plants (part 1 of 11) - Music by Stevie Wonder‬‏

You will see a Japanese lady teaching a plant to speak.

Also did you pull down the Nassim Haramein Black Whole 2011 movie that Ashweth posted:

Nassim Haramein

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Thank you IndianaBoys ,

I will definitely check them out, good addition to our research
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Have you tried the Kelvin Experiment on your M state Water?
Don't they both produce charged water?
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