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That means space or the "vacuum" is filled with an unimaginable amount of energy at every point.
Electrical World At All: Electromagnetic spectrum

An astronomical amount. Just like a cook you will need to find the right combination of ingredients to make a certain recipe.
"radio waves at 60 Hz may be received and studied by astronomers, or may be ducted along wires as electric power."

Seeing how this is the first "machine" in recorded history I think its configuration is significant. Two toroids intersected. I think this was just a communication device. From the description there were 5 devices and a bright light emanated from 4 of them. When the one without the light moved,the others moved in unison. ElectroMagnetism or a variant? There are a multitude of light frequency combinations to make white light. If you divided or marked each electromagnetic frequency on a string,then the string would be thousands of miles long. The visible light frequencies would only be about an inch long on the string.
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Hi all.
Here is a spark discharge from one of my machines that shows the red and blue.
Notice that the discharge was not between the electrodes but across the machine discs and collectors...must have been dusty.
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Walter Russell Diagrams

Hi Pengrove, In my opinion the term "Vacuum" has never been properly defined so I tend not to use it. I prefer to use the proper term "Aether" but that is just my preference, "Backround Energy" is even a better term, there is no need for there to be a vacuum and the term does more to confuse than enlighten. It's use should be discontinued because there is nowhere in the universe where nothing exsists. Just try and prove that statement wrong.

I was wondering if you could tell me Pengrove. What is the source of the Walter Russell diagrams you showed in this this thread ? The one's that are not found in the "Universal One" I mean.

I take it you are also aware of the connection between Otis T. Carr and Walter Russell.
Otis T. Carr

I wonder what happened to the Learning Institutions Walter and his wife were supposed to have setup.

This info and the possibilities arising from the principals put forward by Walter Russell have been heavily suppressed. Tesla used the some of the principals he gleaned from Walter to produce usefull device's.

It is my opinion that the two were of similar brilliance but on slightly different tracks. The principals we need to harvest free energy from the Aether are all covered by Walter and some were put into practical devices by Nikola and others. He may have missed some stuff because I guess nobody is perfect.

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I was wondering if you could tell me Pengrove. What is the source of the Walter Russell diagrams you showed in this this thread ? The one's that are not found in the "Universal One" I mean.

I take it you are also aware of the connection between Otis T. Carr and Walter Russell.
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I wonder what happened to the Learning Institutions Walter and his wife were supposed to have setup.
A new concept of the Universe is a great book. So is Atomic Suicide. The Russell enlightenment courses are still available.

A word I got through a very good source to me said that the courses are for now. They are for the time when man wakes up and decides to seek enlightenment. Lao said that we will turn to the information when the weather gets severe.

I am here to make sure that man wakes up to this work. And is no longer taken advantage of. The ramifications of the damage already done to the earth are unfolding. Man takes information from enlightened people that are trying to do good and sells it back to them. Which nothing is wrong with that. But they should of been sharing the knowledge all along so we could of learned from each other. And together we would of kept a lot of what is to come from happening. The caveman within has won over the divine source but not for long.

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Thank you for sharing the diagrams and information pengrove. They are very interesting to me. In my haste I missed that the source of the diagrams was there for me to see. I was unaware of this book "A new concept of the Universe" but I was aware of atomic suicide. To tell the truth I have yet to fully read the universal one. I will try to get to them very soon, I like the diagrams, they make a lot of sense to me. And the text attached within the diagrams is great way to do it.

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Not a "pro" but wanting to share an opinion...

Extracting energy from the vacuum implies to capture the "static field" that is all around us. In the beginning almost all were wanting to capture wattage, but you need to know that in the vacuum only exist potential gradients (pure voltage).

All we know that we can tap energy from the earth if we use an antenna (wire) elevated some meters from the earth's surface. Some people claims that the electrostatic potential is 125 Volts / Meter. Another interesting opinion is that the pure electrostatic potential can be transformed to electromagnetic energy and the electromagnetic energy's internal structure is made of pure static potential. To accomplish that, you need to use the negative electronic properties: negative resistance, inductance and capacitance. Since "closed circuits" are dissipative and "open circuits" could be amplifier.

A simple peltier module is capturing heat (energy that has been dissipated to the ambient) and emitting heat (power losses) in the other side. This effect is very well documented in the classic theory.
You can light a bulb using only back-emf and I can say you where that energy DOES NOT come from: it doesn't comes from the battery!
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Tesla said that if the field was static then all the work would be in vain.

I believe that the field is not static as every interaction in the universe throws the system out of equilibrium. at this point the field becomes dynamic trying to rebalance the system.

The over unity devices I have studied have produced their excess of energy when we create an imbalance in the system. Tesla did this too. what would make more sense is to use natures imbalances and simply draw off the energy. Tesla certainly had been working on this and I believe morays device worked on this principal.

Our problem is not the understanding of this as many of us understand the principal, it is getting the mainstream to do it. We are aware of the powers that be that suppress this technology and we are not in a position to take them on directly, so we need to educate others at a ground level so that 5% of the population understands in the same way as the Imhotep fan helped me to understand.

5% is the critical mass in creating change in the world.

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The truth is, a vacuum is not an accurate description of what they're referring to in "Energy From the Vacuum". It is not a vacuum based on the definition that a vacuum is empty. A vacuum is filled with many things. The best way to explain this is as simply as possibly... the vacuum is a sea of energy. If we observe it as a wave, its a much higher frequency than our visible light spectrum, if as a particle its much smaller than the atom. It fills all of what we perceive to be space. It is in my interpretation, the fourth dimension. What you do to space happens instantaneously all across the universe. Now forgive me for what I am about to say, because many would crucify me for mixing spirituality with science; I understand them to be the same. The vacuum of space is filled with an energy that has many names: aether, dirac sea, orgones, the breath of life, prana, the "fabric" of spacetime, these are all relatively synonymous. The differences are that some are conscious, and some are focusing on different frequencies, and some are focusing on different charges of these subatomic particles.

My evidence is that light is a wave, and waves travel through a medium, this medium is this material. Magnets take energy from somewhere and never stop unless their poles are disarranged, this energy comes from this material. When you destroy atoms and get all the quarks, the quarks are very unstable and are not balances, so their energy dissipates into a thinner state. This state is that material. This stuff is what causes gravity, inertia, and time. Its not that complicated once you allow yourself to see its simplicity. This material is the unified theory of everything, spiritually, and scientifically.

Well... thats it for me.
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Hi all, Even the ancient Greeks new that a true vacuum is impossible.

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Historically, there has been much dispute over whether such a thing as a vacuum can exist. Ancient Greek philosophers did not like to admit the existence of a vacuum, asking themselves "how can 'nothing' be something?". Plato found the idea of a vacuum inconceivable. He believed that all physical things were instantiations of an abstract Platonic ideal, and he could not conceive of an "ideal" form of a vacuum. Similarly, Aristotle considered the creation of a vacuum impossible nothing could not be something. Later Greek philosophers thought that a vacuum could exist outside the cosmos, but not within it. Hero of Alexandria was the first to challenge this belief in the first century AD, but his attempts to create an artificial vacuum failed.
Reading more of the Wiki tells that even in outer space there is at least a few hydrogen particals per cubic cm as well as the Aether, which is easily explained as has been done many times, it is potential in a constant state of flux, swinging from one side of zero point the "positive" through "Zero" point to the other side of zero point the "negative", kind of like AC power but "Not" .

At the zero point, net energy is zero the swing either way is equally opposite.
This makes complete sense because for there to be something, there must be the potential everywhere to support it's exsistance. Everywhere !

Everything (all matter) is borne from this Aether and taps the Aether fluctuations to maintain exsistance. This is very difficult to explain but it is done very well with picture's, by Walter Russell in his many books.

Well this is how I see it.

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There is also nothing that is truely static within the entire universe. That is also impossible. Try to make something stop moving and you will prove it to yourself.

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Vacuum is any place devoid of any matter in solid, liquid or gaseous forms.. I m not sure about how they derive energy from it though.. But it is said to be in the lowest possible energy state..
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Simple terminology & cohesive solutions needed.

There seems to be no shortage of insight into Aether but we lack a simple unified terminology. (Db Larson aside). I'm convinced there is only one means of energy transfer. Inductance by way of harmonic resonance. I refer to the misunderstood workings of the common "Transformer" as a clue. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this is consistent with Russell and Tesla. I'm futher convinced by Russell that ultimately there is only one expression of energy. We however see only the divided +/- expressions. The Vacuity of space as the maximum density of Neg potential and Sun's as the Max density of Pos. potential. Occasionaly we can see both interacting in opposite directions as Lightning,spark,plasma.
(Opposites DO NOT Attract,Gravity is a push). Again consistent with Leedskalin. The anti-entropy Bio/life (W.Reich/ode/prana etc..) force is my weak area but it seems to be the interaction of this life force upon the fundemendal energy that coheres/precipitates all matter. The role of consciounness may also be a contributing factor. More succinctly there is but waves of light conditioned by accoustics. I find this accords well with all recorded physics. The vortex seems to be the universal mechanism, as such, I feel there is only one true "machine" man can employ that being the "Mark I Torque converter", though we have many variants depending on the medium we are harnessing. The geometry of propellers for water/air are well established. Is the Tesla coil an Aether propeller? If not what is? Sadly David Hamel is no longer available to teach us. Perhaps V.Shauberger has but it's being sequestered.
The Mark TR-3B (Aether torque converter) may be the most current variant.
I concur with T.Beardon in that all the worlds power grids have not "Produced" a single watt of power, but only provided the conditions for the Herzian TEM to propegate from the Aether while dismissing the LEM component. (Re-Dollard,Lindeman,Brown@Borderland). Tesla grandfathered AC but quickly abandonded futher research to move on to the other component of the Aether. Can someone remind me whom (Moray?)recorded distant "energy events" instantaneously Before the radio waves reached earth. Clear evidence of LEM detection.(Dr.T.G.Heironymous)
We know Moreley-Michelson is flawed and will offer evidence if employed in a vertical plane.
We have copious examples of persons "tapping" the Aether but many don't understand the how and why and give us a plethora of names. (Bedini/exciter/SEC/Newman/JouleTheif) Which I feel only serve to confuse.
I applaude and deeply appreciate their efforts. I just find it frustrating & time consuming to dechipher.
We also must suffer the Profiteers whom covet discoveries for personal gain.
If you wish to SEE the Aether there is an excellent example offered as an optical illusion by Brusspup where a sheet of cellophane is patterned as +/- (black&clear) then the movement of the Aether coheres matter and provides the illusion of movement we experience. It's my favourite youtube video.
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Tesla's WhiteFire & Black Void

Further evidence of the Aether was offered by Tesla in the form of white fire and the black void. I find this consistent with Russell in that WhiteFire is a condensation or concentration of the Positive flow and the Black void the reciprical expression of Neg concentration. Acheived only under the most extreme of conditions which he certainly investigated. The de-coherence of matter (ie: dissapearing tools) is consistent with the dark void and the WhiteFire's "pleasant" physical sensations is consistent with other research furthered to fruition by radionics. I am suprised that these phenomena are not pursued more agressively by current researchers. Like wise with Stubblefields ability to draw/impart "Illumination" directly from/apon ground and possibly ambient heat. Again language has been a dis-service in dividing related concepts such as Earth energy/telluric currents/lay lines from the Aether. Keely was probably the most gifted yet misunderstood. I have noticed that mainstream science is slowly yet reluctantly accepting the Electrical/plasma nature of our universe as the overwhelming amount of astronomical evidence begins to tip the scales.
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