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Old 03-21-2011, 03:33 AM
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Pulse Current Multiplier (Hyde Generator)

Anyone here ever build a working pulse current multiplier? It's from the Hyde generator (see hyde generator) at Rex research.

Supposedly it's like the opposite of a voltage multiplier. I'd love to get one of these up and running, but I'm a bit doubtful of the design. Moray King has a simplified schematic in his book Quest for Zero Point Energy showing a string of caps and diodes in series. I was thinking this might be a great way to harvest the energy from the water spark plug design or from other high voltage impulse devices. Has anyone every worked with one of these? The photo shows three stages, but they recommend ten or more...




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Old 03-21-2011, 03:44 AM
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Or other ways to step down voltage and increase current...

I should be clear that my whole reason for posting this thread is to figure out some way to step down high voltage in a simple fashion, something like the opposite of a voltage multiplier...
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:29 AM
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I should be clear that my whole reason for posting this thread is to figure out some way to step down high voltage in a simple fashion, something like the opposite of a voltage multiplier...
I always load caps in series and switch them to parallel and discharge for a step down. Real simple real efficient.
I wouldn't know about the schematic.
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:56 AM
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Maybe this would work for your application?

The C-Stack by Cris Paltenghe

This stack of capacitor is a new component concept. should reduce HV to LV but do not know if it will multiply current. Guess you have to build one to find out.

This might also be good for water sparkplug experiments to isolate HV from LV?

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I built one some time ago, with little success. I had allot of tuning problems with it because of the differences in cap readings. The inductors were easy to match but the caps had slight variations. This led me to my own design using the Tesla bifilar coils which was easier to control the values. ( shown below - bottom drawing, disregard the top schematic ). This one worked better and was successful to a degree, it ran extremely hot and did produce a reasonable output for a brief period of time. It seems to load the HV output coil which eventually burned up my 6500 volt transformer ( from internal arcing ). So the results were inconclusive - After destroying the transformer I couldn't figure out why it happened so I didn't continue with the project. So, yes, it does work but there are some challenging problems to overcome.
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I always load caps in series and switch them to parallel and discharge for a step down. Real simple real efficient.
I wouldn't know about the schematic.
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I have trouble understanding how this works. Unless you are using two cap banks. Or am I missing something here ? Or would it be a tap off some of them ?

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Old 03-22-2011, 03:44 AM
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@dragon...

That's a cool design! Did you use air core or ferrite core windings? could you give me an idea of the coil construction so I have a solid starting point? (gauge, # of windings or inductance, etc...)

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Old 03-22-2011, 02:38 PM
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They were standard air core windings, I was running them in the 1mhz range so I suppose a ferrite core could be used depending on the frequency. They were basic bifilar wound on a PVC tube. I don't remember the actual turns but did note the capacitance and inductance in the drawing. You'll need to adjust them to the frequency your using. The wire was 20awg which may be the reason it ran fairly hot - the current carrying capacity for that wire isn't substantial. I had a 6500 volt NST with a spark gap driven oscillator. Keep in mind the transformer had some problems driving it and my actual success with the layout was inconclusive because of the failure.

It seemed to operate as the pulsed current multiplier would suggest but since the transformer failed I didn't take the project any farther.
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