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Old 03-03-2011, 02:32 AM
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A typo or no overunity?

I too, at the present time, am sceptical of Aviso's inventions. I just read the following article on Peswiki which outlines the results of his MEG:

Aviso Envisions 1 Million Self-Charging EV Retrofit Stations by 2011 End

The test results of the MEG running a 800 W resistive load are outlined below:

Duration: Total of 4 hours
Load: 800watts Resistive Bulb [estimate]
Input: 12.8V
Battery capacity: 6,000 watt-h.
Battery remain: 12.7V
Volts drop: After 4 hours =0.1 volts

Unless the battery capacity is a typo, which it could be, a 6000 Wh battery should be able to run a 800 W load for about 7 hours before the voltage drops to a level that it can no longer provide useful power to the load.

If he wants to show that he is credible in his demonstrations he should purchase one of those BK Precision battery capacity meters that Bedini always uses to show how much energy has been drained from his batteries. Using a $10 multimeter, whose readings can easily be out by 10% or more, to show the voltage drop in the battery as evidence of overunity is insufficient evidence.
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Old 03-03-2011, 09:53 AM
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Like anyone i hope he has something real on the go... and it wouldn't surprise me in the least hearing it came from the Philippines, but...

.. man that thing is built like a Sherman tank... was there zero concern for weight?! If he's capturing free energy, he certainly wasn't concerned with "not getting enough". wild.

hope it works and hope it gets out there. work him hard for open source - if its the real deal Ash!
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Old 03-03-2011, 10:45 AM
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Anyway, it doesn't matter if Aviso is the real deal or not, we are moving to such a future ... at first electric vehicles (Most of the car manufacturers started this in 2009-2010), then more efficient electric vehicles, and then electric vehicles which require no charge at all, and then spaceships and then ....
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:48 AM
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Back to the Future

We had a great future behind us. Electric cars were around a 100 years ago.
Tesla had all the answers a 100 years ago. Man went to the moon in 1969.
In the 70's they were predicting that in the future we would work less and have
more. Now people work two jobs and barely make ends meet, when before one
income was enough to support a whole family well. Why have we denegraded so much ? Seems like we have to reclaim what we lost first then move ahead.

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Old 03-03-2011, 12:16 PM
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Micro wave ground scouring Aviso car.

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can anyone give me cliffs as to what is going on here exactly? everyone else is so well read up on this category i can't catch up. simplest terms possible please.
Aviso powers a carrier wave recieving antenna with the bemf from the D.C. motor. Channeling this obstructive power from the motor improves the motor's efficency. The loop antenna recieves cell phone tower transmissions in the 700 Mhz range. This carrier wave broadcasting antenna beam may be miles in diameter. The low impedence tesla coil is excited by the cell phone tower transmission and shorted to the capacitors. Aviso then multiplies the frequency up to 6 giga Hz through this set of cascading capacitors. This full sine wave smaller then broadcast signal is then sent to the negative ground of the lead acid battery. This low end microwave band signal scours the negative ground of all it's electro-magnetic strength, and spontainiously generates a charge in the positive plates of the battery; Like surpassing the Currie point where the heat strips the magnet of it's field. The surrounding field pressure pushes into the positve plates. The power is generated inside the lead acid battery. His overunity M.E.G. probably works the same way.

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Old 03-03-2011, 06:41 PM
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Micro wave ground scouring proof of concept test.

I'm on holiday again in sunny Costa Rica where the winter weather's warm. I have a favor to ask of someone: Please run a piece of magnet wire through the microwave oven door, and attach the uninsulated end to the negative pole of a depleted 9 volt rechargable Ni-Cad battery. Turn the oven on and compare the voltage readings from before and after. Get back to the thread with the results. Thanks.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:13 PM
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Aviso generates a carrier wave antenna with the bemf from the D.C. motor. Channeling this obstructive power from the motor improves the motor's efficency. The loop antenna recieves cell phone tower transmissions in the 700 Khz range. This carrier wave antenna may be miles in diameter. The low impedence tesla coil is excited by the cell phone tower transmission and shorted to the capacitors. Aviso then multiplies the frequency up to 6 giga Hz through this set of cascading capacitors. This full sine wave smaller then broadcast signal is then sent to the negative ground of the lead acid battery. This low end micro wave band signal scours the negative ground of all it's electro-magnetic strength, and spontainiously generates a charge in the positive plates of the battery; Like surpassing the Currie point where the heat strips the magnet of it's field. The surrounding field pressure pushes into the positve plates. The power is generated inside the lead acid battery. His overunity M.E.G. probably works the same way.
WOW! What??

What is the difference between a carrier wave antenna an a normal antenna. Holy cow troops, cell phones operate in the middle of the AM Band??

Did I not understand something with all this explanation?
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:45 PM
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I found this article about the DOE test:

Philippines DOE Comments On Aviso Electric Car
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Old 03-03-2011, 09:19 PM
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correction.

I added the word "beam" to the comment. Meaning "cell phone broadcast antenna beam". I also changed "generates" to "powers" in the opening sentence. Please reread the original now for an improved understanding. Sorry for the unclear wording.

The important point is, Ishmael claims he is capturing a cell phone transmission broadcast signal from a nearby tower, and multiplying the frequency to microwave band width. It's no longer a radio wave, but so small it excites molecular electrons and generates heat. I think he may be frying his battery. He reports electrical fire smell when he trys to speed up. Someone has to try the proof of concept experiment I suggested above to find out if this really works.

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Old 03-03-2011, 10:14 PM
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I added the word "beam" to the comment. Meaning "cell phone broadcast antenna beam". Sorry for the misunderstanding.

The important point is, Ishmael claims he is capturing a cell phone transmission broadcast signal from a nearby tower, and multiplying the frequency to microwave band width. It's no longer a radio wave, but so small it excites molecular electrons and generates heat. I think he may be frying his battery. He reports electrical fire smell when he trys to speed up. Someone has to try the proof of concept experiment I suggested above to find out if this really works.
The proof of concept works. I tested on a 9v rechargeable and it went from 9.42v to 9.48v in 6 seconds. However the wire at that point caught fire in the microwave thus ending the test.

Any ideas on how to keep the wire from burning up?

It did work however.

-Altrez

EDIT: After 5 minutes of rest its up to 9.53v
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Old 03-03-2011, 10:50 PM
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Test.

Altrez:

Thank you! That took courage. The results are awesome. We need to figure out just what exactly happened there. This may be the first time in human history anyone has performed this experiment.
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Old 03-03-2011, 10:57 PM
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Thank you! That took courage. The results are awesome. We need to figure out just what exactly happened there. This may be the first time in human history anyone has performed this experiment.
Your idea

I am not sure what is happening. If I were to guess I would say the wire acted like an antenna channeling the microwaves into one side of the battery and some how exciting the other side as well.

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Old 03-03-2011, 11:23 PM
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test.

Altrez:

I wonder if you could upload a video? Ishmeal Aviso is generating the microwave from back EMF. This demonstrates the possible authenticity of his overunity claims. We need to be patient and harness more input from the forum group. Aviso also has an MEG that apparently is running 800 watts of incandescent light bulbs practicly for free.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:46 PM
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Altrez:

I wonder if you could upload a video? Ishmeal Aviso is generating the microwave from back EMF. This demonstrates the possible authenticity of his overunity claims. We need to be patient and harness more input from the forum group. Aviso also has an MEG that apparently is running 800 watts of incandescent light bulbs practicly for free.
Here ya go!

YouTube - 9vtest good

The length of wire makes a difference as well. If we could figure out the right length and gauge I bet the effects would be a lot better.

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Old 03-04-2011, 02:16 AM
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Test.

Altrez:

The battery must be acting as a dipole rectenna; Both recieving and rectifying the full micro sine wave and transforming the A.C. wave to D.C. current, or maybe the D.C. charge is pulled in from outer space from the kind of ground scouring effect we discused earlier. There's clearly an additional micro volt that appears from somewhere. There's no electrical current going into the battery. At this point the effect is a mystery!
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Old 03-04-2011, 02:25 AM
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The battery must be acting as a dipole rectenna; Both recieving and rectifying the full micro sine wave and transforming the A.C. wave to D.C. current, or maybe the D.C. charge is pulled in from outer space from the kind of ground scouring effect we discused earlier. There's clearly an additional micro volt that appears from somewhere. There's no electrical current going into the battery. At this point the effect is a mystery!
The effect is greater with a longer piece of wire. I think its all going to be about how to not burn the wire so we can test for longer periods of time.
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:02 AM
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Altrez:

Take a look at this JLN plasma ball microwave reciever. It might help to attach the wire to the kind of metal reciever JLN shows building instructions for at this following link:

Plasmoid ( ball lightning ) generation with a microwave resonator by Jean-Louis Naudin
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Altrez:

Take a look at this JLN plasma ball microwave reciever. It might help to attach the wire to the kind of metal reciever JLN shows building instructions for at this following link:

Plasmoid ( ball lightning ) generation with a microwave resonator by Jean-Louis Naudin
Interesting. That looks like a fun experiment as well . I think what we need to do is find a safer way to generate the 2.5ghz waves.

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I guess waiting for his technology to be evaluated from a known SOURCE, is the really the only way to know.I hope he will go down that way and send it to us to test.

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I'll suggest a possible half baked (no pun intended) explanation for the battery voltage increase in the microwave oven test. Since you have a huge amount of power that is exciting a wire at a high frequency and you are only connecting it to one side of the the battery I think we can assume that some electrons in the wire are acting to 'stir the pot' a bit in the battery. So you are adding a bit of energy to the battery. The battery may even act to some extent as it's own rectifier. Many small effects can be seen with very high power level excitation. I'm just not sure this is related to Ismael's devices.

Oh and Altrez I saw that beer. No more microwave testing while drinking

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I'll suggest a possible half baked (no pun intended) explanation for the battery voltage increase in the microwave oven test. Since you have a huge amount of power that is exciting a wire at a high frequency and you are only connecting it to one side of the the battery I think we can assume that some electrons in the wire are acting to 'stir the pot' a bit in the battery. So you are adding a bit of energy to the battery. The battery may even act to some extent as it's own rectifier. Many small effects can be seen with very high power level excitation. I'm just not sure this is related to Ismael's devices.

Oh and Altrez I saw that beer. No more microwave testing while drinking


Hahaha busted! I think you are close in your observations. Still in all the test made for an exciting Thursday evening



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Old 03-05-2011, 01:09 PM
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Aviso MEG.

Ismael has a new MEG video. He describes the ground scouring microwave charging effect demonstrated by Altrez as "Inductive Collapse".

YouTube - Ismael Aviso MEG test with 1000 Watts load
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am i the only person that sees a potential issue with him playing around with cell phone towers? this seems illegal; even if he does prove that it works, it's unlikely the cell phone companies will allow it
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Cell phone.

Tysla:

When the signal passes through the walls of your house and enters your home, whose property is it then? One could view signal use as rent.

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Microwave battery loop.

I saw a youtube video awhile back where an inventer had a group of 12 volt head lights looped back to a few 12 volt lead acid batteries through an inverter and a mystery component concealed in a cardboard box. I realize now it must have been a microwave oven. I tried to search for it, but I can't locate it right now. He was in a garage or warehouse with a witness and ran the unit over several hours. Does anyone remember seeing this one?

I don't know how safe or what the long term effects would be on a battery from running a microwave signal through it, or where you would tie into the oven; However this would be a very simple way to generate free power if it was safe and didn't burn the battery out.

I imagine the oven just plugs into the A.C. inverter, and wires into the negative poles of the lead acid batteries, with maybe a timer to space periodic bursts of energy out from the oven. I'll continue to search for the video.

Update:

I found the video I was thinking of by Peter Sumaruck, and there is no evidence of a microwave oven. This seems to me like a very very bad idea for anyone to try at this point without "Myth Buster" type safety precautions. Here's the link anyway.

YouTube - Zero Amp

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Microwave oven loop.

Would anyone know where to connect up to in a Microwave oven to run the signal through a wire into a battery?
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a bit oot...
i think now i get why the egyptian had only iraqi jars to have theor big lamps for their projects..
it's because they never used it to power the lamps up in the first place..they only used the jars to trigger the source the way possibly aviso using the batteries to power the car by triggering the ambient energy..

the question is, how to do that with radioshack components?
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Old 03-16-2011, 06:14 PM
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after reading this:
Directory:Ismael Aviso Self-Charging Electric Car - PESWiki

i kind of puzzled about the sentence:
"..It's not A FREE ENERGY Car, due to antenna collect power from AMBIENT like from Cellsite & other form of transmitting signal to boost the power of the battery.."

is it expensive to create such power compared to the power generated to run the car engine?
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Ismael Aviso says, in a interview, Aviso Interviewed on Smart Scarecrow Showthat was inspired by Harry Bull’s “two weights propulsion, Harry W. Bull:Harry W. Bull: Reaction Motor (Popular Science Monthly, Jan. 1035) to develop a levitation device that he is claiming.

Probably Ismael is using a coil, replacing the “spring propels” to oscillate the weights back and forth.
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:35 PM
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“Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication” Leonardo da Vinci

I believe that the solution is simpler than everybody thinks.
Ismael seems a simple guy and I do not see him doing complicated electronics.
(He confessed that did not finished first year of high school)

I think, that he just switches a simple DC circuit, with a battery and a motor, 10.000 times a second, and then in parallel, adds a pulsing high frequency signal from the antenna.

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