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Old 11-15-2010, 12:02 AM
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measured

Initially I was very excited about this so I set out to take some measurements.

Procedure:
Measure the resistance between all of the contacts (leads)
How I did this was to:

1 Take a pair of leads & hook the DVM to them separately
2 Short them together
3 Release them
4 Let the DVM settle
5 Record the resistance reading

I did this for all of the possible combinations. I also swapped the leads of the DVM and repeated 1-5

My measurements resulted in the following in Mega Ohms:
- & + = 13 Meg
o & - = 6 Meg
o & - = 8 Meg
o & - & + = 10 Meg (this was a weird one ... did it several times)

With my dead Alkaline 9V @ 7V the driver circuit lit a red led at a dim output. I also lit the same led to the same dimness with a 6.8 Meg resistor directly to the battery.

I also measured 4.3 ma flowing from the battery to the Captret and 3.4 ma flowing from the Captret to the led.

The Casing & - form a small capacitor in addition to the - & +

THE ELECTROLYTE LEAKS ENOUGH CURRENT TO DRIVE AN LED

So make your own measurements and make a wise decision. Over Unity ? You decide. The enthusiasm was encouraging, but keep trying though.

I'm going back to the "This Is It" thread.
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Old 11-15-2010, 01:39 AM
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If that was the case....

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Initially I was very excited about this so I set out to take some measurements.

Procedure:
Measure the resistance between all of the contacts (leads)
How I did this was to:

1 Take a pair of leads & hook the DVM to them separately
2 Short them together
3 Release them
4 Let the DVM settle
5 Record the resistance reading

I did this for all of the possible combinations. I also swapped the leads of the DVM and repeated 1-5

My measurements resulted in the following in Mega Ohms:
- & + = 13 Meg
o & - = 6 Meg
o & - = 8 Meg
o & - & + = 10 Meg (this was a weird one ... did it several times)

With my dead Alkaline 9V @ 7V the driver circuit lit a red led at a dim output. I also lit the same led to the same dimness with a 6.8 Meg resistor directly to the battery.

I also measured 4.3 ma flowing from the battery to the Captret and 3.4 ma flowing from the Captret to the led.

The Casing & - form a small capacitor in addition to the - & +

THE ELECTROLYTE LEAKS ENOUGH CURRENT TO DRIVE AN LED

So make your own measurements and make a wise decision. Over Unity ? You decide. The enthusiasm was encouraging, but keep trying though.

I'm going back to the "This Is It" thread.
Really... Funny because if that was the case then the battery would be depleting for which mine is now charging from its starting voltage of 9.20 So far it is 9.23. You forget these are capacitors. They block current by the capacitance. Thats an active thing while the power is applied and not discharged. The naked circuit when not connected to the whole system does not exhibit the same measurements as it is with power applied. That is the reason for the changing voltages as the circuit charges up and attains it's running levels. Nice try to discredit this and plug that "other" thread...

Besides why don't you take the original circuit parallel a couple caps of the same ratings and try that one. Hell why not use a couple or 4 like my unit and start to charge that battery of yours and prove it to your self. By the way 4 220uf 20-100v electrolytic caps seems to be a magic in tune system from what I have been seeing. It seems the brightness will dim after a day but that means it is evening out its power to push the battery further. I think others and I believe that the bigger caps of much higher voltages works the best. My 200volt caps seem to be like the best effect I have seen yet. I'm still trying to find the right placement for each cap because I have 2 pairs but different capacities.
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Old 11-15-2010, 02:59 AM
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a self charging captret could be a negative capacitor, or a "Negacitor". Where a positive capacitor would drain the battery a Negacitor will charge the battery.
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:05 AM
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Captret tester

Hi IBpointless2 & JBig,
I have built a captret w/2 470uf 200v caps and I'm testing a .2uf 5.5v Super Cap as the battery with no LED. I get all kinds of different readings for voltage at the Super Cap from .32 to .47 and back down, several cycles now. Its been running for about 6 hrs and its at .37 and climbing slowly. The captret effect is better with higher voltage matched pair caps. It is my opinion that the charge effect is due to inductive field leakage from the foil roll inside to the can and is received by means of the skin effect from the outside of the can. I thinks its because the induced voltage out of the o poles when any positive charge is applied to positive leg is greater than the effect of the caps self-charging. I am no expert but its what I see happening from my testing with the super cap. I have videos YouTube - Autocaptret and am testing further.

Keep up the good work!
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Old 11-15-2010, 07:46 AM
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Self Charger v1.1

Here's my latest captret charger, this one Rocks.

When draining the charged battery, there's more joules than conventional battery!.

Can't do test, someone please replicate and post data.

Same circuit for Lead Acid Battery capret, I have made 4 x 1 gallon size electrolytic capacitor, it's pretty crazy!!!, will post more info soon.

Spdt switch is not needed if you dont have one, just pull the LED (I have 9 LED's from flashlight, don't use only 1 LED, you'll fry em!,) off and attach cap negative to the cap housing.

Don't just read, get tinkering.

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Old 11-15-2010, 08:38 AM
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DIY low cost Large Electrolytic Capacitor

USE PRECAUTION - Wear gloves, mask, eye goggles etc, Use Safety and Common Sense. I am not LIABLE for anything.

It is possible to construct a very large electrolytic cap quite easily.

Materials:
2 - Roll of paper - I use brown kraft paper, must withhold wet fluid. I soak paper in electrolyte for about 1 hr to get good saturation.
3 - Roll of Aluminium Foil (2 rolls thickest ones you can find, 1 roll thinnest one you can find)
Electrolyte - 50% Antifreeze
ribbon wire or you can cut a strip of thin copper sheet 1/6" wide +- depending on cap size
12 ga insulated wire for post.
Empty can with lid (paint can Hardware Store, remove inside paint with wire brush or paint strip acid, recycle canned food, aluminum soda cans etc. - best result with aluminum) .2" taller than paper.

Soak paper in electrolyte for 1 hour to ensure good saturation.

Start rolling 1 layer of paper and make a coil of about .5" thick, then double up the thick aluminium and add to coil creating a spiral coil - bi-filar, Foil must be shorter than paper about .5" is good as to avoid shorting if it contacts the top of the metal enclosure. Keep the coil as tight as possible, when coil thickness is large enough to pass hole on cap, attach your ribbon wire or copper strip and tape securely with cellophane tape. Wire runs down from top to bottom of coil at 90 degrees. Make one more turn then add second layer of paper, one more turn then add the layer of thinner foil. A few turns then atach ribbon wire in the same manner and secure. Now make enough of the coil to fill the can leaving .2" space when placed inside the can. Wrap the outside of the coil with cellophane tape securely and place in can. Solder ribbon to conduction post.

Ensuring that the wire cuts down at 90 degrees perpendicular to the coil, just like in a electrolytic cap. Drill 2 holes on can cap, hole size to tightly fit conduction wire. Cap the bottom end to prevent leakage. Tape cap down securely with aluminium tape etc to make sure it is air tight.

Hook up to a battery, test for polarity and mark on the can.


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Old 11-15-2010, 08:50 AM
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cells feed out constant current and the capacity is measured in mAh. Capacitors are made to store this current according to the capacity. The battery always has more power than donated, one rule. Current is always equal anywhere in DC circuits, so you are a fool saying that a cap charged by a cell has more energy than the doner, you need to do your homework....
@wetissues

From one fool to another.

YouTube - Free Electrical Energy 2

Watch 1 and 2

Then would you be kind enough to explain to this fool, what is going on.

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Old 11-15-2010, 08:57 AM
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@wetissues

From one fool to another.

Watch 1 and 2

Then would you be kind enough to explain to this fool, what is going on.

Penno
@wetissues
not penno64

but of course we're fools, this is impossible to do Look it up in your text book, it's right there!

E=mc2



Proceed at your own risk, Sanity not guaranteed! Bet Einstein is in his grave.

Replicate this, only you can fool urself.
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Old 11-15-2010, 11:22 AM
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Alkaline Batteries

All the batteries I've charged with Captret have been alkaline, the throw away kine. I have not over charged a battery, but I'm gonna find out what happens soon

Battery is very cold when being charged.

Note:
Do not drain your battery to below 60%, you can still charge them but the will take forever.

A 9 volt was drained to 5.0 as requested by ibpointless, it took 24 hrs just to reach 7.5v with my new captret self charger.

Drain batteries 9v to no less than 7v, and they'll charge in 3 hrs. Much faster charge time on AAA and AA.

Try em, post result.
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Old 11-15-2010, 11:40 AM
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Electricity,
Look, again I am not here to question your credentials or scientific ability. But you sure do throw out a lot of information and schematics. But what ever happened to the scientific method. Did that go out the window because it is "taught" to us. Someone asked for a control experiment and you TOLD someone else to do it. Excuse me, but how the hell can you PROVE anything if you dont even have a control to compare to? You spout out a bunch of stuff that may or may not work, about new setups, that "you dont have time to test" and you want someone to "replicate and post data". again excuse me. What gives here? You want us to waste what seems like a bunch of time making capacitors. Though this may be handy, can you give us any kind of specs on these? is there any way this can even work let alone produce more storage than a very large super capacitor that can be purchased? Do you even have a single photo to record any of YOUR setups, for yourself let alone to post on the forum? IF you do why dont you share them with us so we can see what is going on in your world brotha. You should have nothing to be ashamed of, sounds like you got many experiments going with multiple caps and huge "super capacitor" paint cans and what not. Post a video tutorial of how to make a capacitor from a paint can. I would, and Im sure others would really love to see your work. I really imagine its something else.
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Here's my latest captret charger, this one Rocks.

When draining the charged battery, there's more joules than conventional battery!.

Can't do test, someone please replicate and post data.

Same circuit for Lead Acid Battery capret, I have made 4 x 1 gallon size electrolytic capacitor, it's pretty crazy!!!, will post more info soon.

Spdt switch is not needed if you dont have one, just pull the LED (I have 9 LED's from flashlight, don't use only 1 LED, you'll fry em!,) off and attach cap negative to the cap housing.

Don't just read, get tinkering.

Free Energy is here.
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:09 PM
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Electricity,
Look, again I am not here to question your credentials or scientific ability. But you sure do throw out a lot of information and schematics. But what ever happened to the scientific method. Did that go out the window because it is "taught" to us. Someone asked for a control experiment and you TOLD someone else to do it. Excuse me, but how the hell can you PROVE anything if you dont even have a control to compare to? You spout out a bunch of stuff that may or may not work, about new setups, that "you dont have time to test" and you want someone to "replicate and post data". again excuse me. What gives here? You want us to waste what seems like a bunch of time making capacitors. Though this may be handy, can you give us any kind of specs on these? is there any way this can even work let alone produce more storage than a very large super capacitor that can be purchased? Do you even have a single photo to record any of YOUR setups, for yourself let alone to post on the forum? IF you do why dont you share them with us so we can see what is going on in your world brotha. You should have nothing to be ashamed of, sounds like you got many experiments going with multiple caps and huge "super capacitor" paint cans and what not. Post a video tutorial of how to make a capacitor from a paint can. I would, and Im sure others would really love to see your work. I really imagine its something else.
The problem with this Age of Man is that you are so dependent on others, the System. You read, analyze, delete what that is not compatible with your stored values and conclude. That is where you fail, because that exactly is Linear Thinking.

Let me tell you Nature is simple, Free Energy is Simple. Your installed False Values projects Wrong Logic in your thinking.

Get off your lazy behind, get some aluminum foil, paper, antifreeze, and a can and replicate.

And if you don't, I don't give a damn. You do not have the Conscious to Think.

And scientific proof, Don't even get me started.

Why don't you go and Study Heavyside and Lorentz false manufactured theories that you hold so dearly.
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Old 11-15-2010, 01:30 PM
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Look seriously, I was trying to help you out. You come here and spout all sorts of rhetoric. You show no proof of you getting off YOUR lazy behind and replicating anything. You have tried to discredit Bedini, Dr. Stiffler, and all others who have devoted years of their time and money and knowledge to the field. What is you purpose here. To misdirect? To make yourself feel better? smarter? There are people on this forum (way smarter than I) that have been in electrical engineering before I was born.
By me saying anything I have probably took enough attention away from the Valuable work that is actually being done on this thread. If you want a capacitor to be built for you then start another thread. If you have actually done the Multiple captret experiment then post something usefull and show us exactly how you did it, along with the data the YOU collected.
Others have come here and done the same thing as you. You only discredit yourself. You will be ignored. and eventually banned. And you may not care that you are banned. Then why come here in the first place and waste YOUR very valuable tinkering time?
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Old 11-15-2010, 01:34 PM
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I had no luck in charging my 12V battery (which was around 8V on load), in fact it may have died as it's at 0.43V hooked up for 12hours to the captret. This is actually strange as the voltage really started to plummet when hooked as electricity's/hidave charger. As if the battery was short circuited, but it remained stone cold.
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Old 11-15-2010, 01:44 PM
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Well...

Obviously there are people who are replicating this stuff. I would suggest to electricity that you stop with all the bs about what we are being taught. We know this doesn't fit into what is being taught. That is why Ibpointless2 brought this to our attention. We are replicating this and in my case I have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are indeed seeing something that we don't have a good understanding about.

I proved that to myself. In my experiment I have raised the voltage of my battery to 9.27v. even after taking a good amount of voltage off the battery I think the lowest frame of reference in this well used and depleted battery was around 8.5v. It climbed up slowly and exceeded the starting voltage of 9.20v. I am fully convinced that we are seeing a passively charging battery. Lets stop with all the bs and start to focus on why.
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Old 11-15-2010, 02:15 PM
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I'm glad to see everyone having good results on the self charging captret designs. I've noticed they all seem to have things in common.

There is multiple captrets used.

They seem to be in series with each other.

And they all seem to be using the o to - concept.

And for some reason the bigger the cap the better, but from my testing the little caps (1uf) can still charge a 9 volt battery, it just takes a little longer.


I just picked up some 1000uf 35 volt caps from radio shack for my captret self charger made from common radio shack parts. I'm going make a self charger out these radio shack parts and post a youtube video of it. I'm going to make it as simple as possible and give every little detail away, there shall not be any excuse of why you can't build one your self.


One thing we all can agree on, the captret doesn't play by the rules.
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Old 11-15-2010, 02:28 PM
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I'm glad to see everyone having good results on the self charging captret designs. I've noticed they all seem to have things in common.

There is multiple captrets used.

They seem to be in series with each other.

And they all seem to be using the o to - concept.

And for some reason the bigger the cap the better, but from my testing the little caps (1uf) can still charge a 9 volt battery, it just takes a little longer.


I just picked up some 1000uf 35 volt caps from radio shack for my captret self charger made from common radio shack parts. I'm going make a self charger out these radio shack parts and post a youtube video of it. I'm going to make it as simple as possible and give every little detail away, there shall not be any excuse of why you can't build one your self.


One thing we all can agree on, the captret doesn't play by the rules.
I have never been able to get a self charger from the o to neg of the cap. The only way that i got a self charger was to do the original captret in parallel. I got my 5 captret in parallel using:

2- 820uf 200v
2- 470uf 200v
1- 1000uf 200v

These are the biggest I have. The led is super bright and drops 2.34 volts when it is connected across the cap +,-.

I got this on my 12ah battery and started out at 10.25 volts. I'm gonna let it sit for a few hours then see whats the condition of the battery then. It was climbing pretty fast so we will see...
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Old 11-15-2010, 02:38 PM
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I think youtube might be censoring me? They won't let me post comments with certain words in them (free enery, self charging, overuinty, etc.). But if i go to a different comment or even a different video comment from someone else they'll let me. This has just started happening and i don't know why, they just say error when i click post button. And it only happens when i use certain words when commenting to others on my captret videos.

This doesn't look good.
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:01 PM
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IBP2, hope this means good things. LOL
@ all. I had my captret running all day and night. All was going well until this morning. When I checked in this morning the LED was very dim. I put meter on battery and Voltage was down. But as I hooked meter the Batt Voltage started to climb, but LED did not brighten. I then touched a lead and the LED went out. Nothing moved. Nothing shorted. Batt V still climbing but no LED. The led will light off battery itself, but throught he captret it will not.
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:03 PM
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I think youtube might be censoring me? They won't let me post comments with certain words in them (free enery, self charging, overuinty, etc.). But if i go to a different comment or even a different video comment from someone else they'll let me. This has just started happening and i don't know why, they just say error when i click post button. And it only happens when i use certain words when commenting to others on my captret videos.

This doesn't look good.
Try this one:

Home - EnergeticTube.com*-* Where technology goes LIVE!

Why people keep on using the biggest thing around is just asking for trouble, regardless of the situation.
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:09 PM
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I think youtube might be censoring me? They won't let me post comments with certain words in them (free enery, self charging, overuinty, etc.). But if i go to a different comment or even a different video comment from someone else they'll let me. This has just started happening and i don't know why, they just say error when i click post button. And it only happens when i use certain words when commenting to others on my captret videos.

This doesn't look good.
Just disable comments and post a link back here in the description for people to comment. That way it will keep all the discussion in the same place too.
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:18 PM
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IBP2, hope this means good things. LOL
@ all. I had my captret running all day and night. All was going well until this morning. When I checked in this morning the LED was very dim. I put meter on battery and Voltage was down. But as I hooked meter the Batt Voltage started to climb, but LED did not brighten. I then touched a lead and the LED went out. Nothing moved. Nothing shorted. Batt V still climbing but no LED. The led will light off battery itself, but throught he captret it will not.
Its normal for the next day for the LED be to dim, but for the battery voltage to go down is not. Make sure all connections are correct and if you're using alligator clips make sure they are in good condition. What battery are you using? You've got something weired happening. I've notice with some of my self charger it requires a capacitor to be hooked up but you must switch it to see it self charge, and it will keep self charging for weeks, maybe months.
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:36 PM
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I proved that to myself. In my experiment I have raised the voltage of my battery to 9.27v. even after taking a good amount of voltage off the battery I think the lowest frame of reference in this well used and depleted battery was around 8.5v. It climbed up slowly and exceeded the starting voltage of 9.20v. I am fully convinced that we are seeing a passively charging battery. Lets stop with all the bs and start to focus on why.

Hi guys!

I know what you mean here Jbig - i was very surprised in my first captret experiment when i saw a rise in the voltage on my battery - but i have repeated the same experiment and i see no rise when i use my ancient analogue metre. ive tried a number of different setups now, and when i use my analogue the needle doesnt move - but heh, it doesnt seem to go down either in some setups, which isnt bad!

Im trying to get the voltage rise using a cap as the battery - after all, if the battery does self charge a cap should also, and we should be able to put the caps in a loop and get it self running. This is why lasersabers vid was so interesting - hes already proven himself to be a bona fide experimenter with his NS coil and great vids done completely in the spirit of share and share alike. Hes no fool for sure. And hes demonstrating what looks like self charging JUST with caps - cant wait to see his next vid.

But as for me, my results with the captret havent recorded any conclusive self charging. So far.......
Ill try again tomorrow as i have a well deserved day off - see if i can see the self charging on the analogue. Are any of you guys using analogue metres?

Good luck everyone!
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:02 PM
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Hi guys!

I know what you mean here Jbig - i was very surprised in my first captret experiment when i saw a rise in the voltage on my battery - but i have repeated the same experiment and i see no rise when i use my ancient analogue metre. ive tried a number of different setups now, and when i use my analogue the needle doesnt move - but heh, it doesnt seem to go down either in some setups, which isnt bad!

Im trying to get the voltage rise using a cap as the battery - after all, if the battery does self charge a cap should also, and we should be able to put the caps in a loop and get it self running. This is why lasersabers vid was so interesting - hes already proven himself to be a bona fide experimenter with his NS coil and great vids done completely in the spirit of share and share alike. Hes no fool for sure. And hes demonstrating what looks like self charging JUST with caps - cant wait to see his next vid.

But as for me, my results with the captret havent recorded any conclusive self charging. So far.......
Ill try again tomorrow as i have a well deserved day off - see if i can see the self charging on the analogue. Are any of you guys using analogue metres?

Good luck everyone!
There are a great many very good experimenters on Energetic forums. Lidmotor being the best in my opinion. But as for lasersabers circuit I'll have to see about that. Anytime I setup some other circuit I find myself going back to the same original circuit posted by Ibpointless2. It works for me. With enough caps the extra flow that is created in the loop of the cap terminals and the led gets put back to the battery somehow...

The one thing I did see in this setup though is that the led gets dim as time goes on. This I can contribute to the flow backing up between the negative plate and the positive. If you check the running difference is betwenn the caps terminals you can see why as the potential difference lowers. This means the negative plate is charging higher and the difference is lowering. Maybe loading the cap to a higher work factor might bring the brightness back to the leds but then this is a variable dynamic problem to solve. When i get more leds I'll check to see how many need to be on the unit that I have to bring the balance back and hopefully charge slowly the battery and get a useful load to run.

Welp just blew my last led trying the o,- connection... That will teach me for doing something I knew would be too much voltage for the led...
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:37 PM
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If your capacitor says 16 volts on it then don't go over that voltage. If you are using 12 volt battery make sure you capacitor rated voltage is above 35 volts. Make sure you follow the diagrams carefully, and experiment at your own risk.

There is really nothing to worry about, the caps we use are small. But if your cap gets hot or any other component in the circuit gets hot then you're doing something wrong.

This is a learning experience for all of us, just don't do something stupid like running 36 volts through a 16 volt capacitor. If the cap does start to bulge then disconnect it and check your connections.


I personally have not seen any bulging of my caps, i get my caps from mouser.com and radio shack. I left the caps alone in my house for 24 hours straight for weeks and see no bad side effects.
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Really... Funny because if that was the case then the battery would be depleting for which mine is now charging from its starting voltage of 9.20 So far it is 9.23.

You forget these are capacitors. They block current by the capacitance.
No, the ideal capacitor blocks current. Electrolytic capacitors leak current. There is not one that does not. Did you take any measurements of the components before you started?

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Thats an active thing while the power is applied and not discharged. The naked circuit when not connected to the whole system does not exhibit the same measurements as it is with power applied. That is the reason for the changing voltages as the circuit charges up and attains it's running levels.

Nice try to discredit this and plug that "other" thread...
You can't get any more small minded than that comment....:whistle.

I meant I was "...going BACK over to the "This Is It" thread to CONTINUE with what I was doing THERE. My intent is to continue with this ALSO.

I was just pointing out what those of use who have been exploring OU for decades already know how to do. Take measurements first, conduct some tests, apply some fundamental logic and try and share some information. Whistle away all you want or stick your head in the sand ... whatever.

Well professor, I did go with the original circuit last night. 4.7uF, 9V NiMH battery, (case to -, etc.). I began at 9:20 pm mt and the battery was at 0.3591VDC. This morning the battery is at 0.3566VDC. You decide. I also tried the experiment with a 60,000uF cap.

Anyway, thanks for you inaccurate, premature and childish assessment of my motives here.

I'm not the only one who has made the same observations. I just don't mind sharing them.

AND that doesn't mean I won't keep exploring and sharing here. It's amazing how people LISTEN to what they want to HEAR. Any cautionary suggestions or commentary is responded to like you did to me. Oh well.

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Besides why don't you take the original circuit parallel a couple caps of the same ratings and try that one. Hell why not use a couple or 4 like my unit and start to charge that battery of yours and prove it to your self.
Settle down some for goodness sake!

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By the way 4 220uf 20-100v electrolytic caps seems to be a magic in tune system from what I have been seeing. It seems the brightness will dim after a day but that means it is evening out its power to push the battery further. I think others and I believe that the bigger caps of much higher voltages works the best. My 200volt caps seem to be like the best effect I have seen yet. I'm still trying to find the right placement for each cap because I have 2 pairs but different capacities.
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I think this really needs to be tried with some NiMH or NiCd batteries as they do not go up in voltage by their self after use as an Alkaline or lead acid will do. Start with some NiMh that have been sitting a day or two and see if you still observe voltage increases. If I can get the time (super busy right now) I'll try it but I do not believe they will charge up with this circuit. If not then all this is just Alkaline self recovery. Please prove me wrong as I'd like to believe this can work.
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Look, My tone of speech is from the frustration over the lies that I have been taught. Everything that I had learned are all WRONG.

Why don't I want to post Results, because I will be criticized, and that kills your spirit. I do conduct controlled tests, but they are for my own eyes. I don't need Stiffler or the other Academician to prove me otherwise. I know what I know and thats all that matters. For anyone that is serious about Free Energy, I suggest that you start conducting your own tests, find out for yourself.

You can build 4 large capacitor from soda cans for under $5 in an hour, so why aren't you?. It's too much to do.

As for dis-crediting, Look again devotees, that is what this movement is turning out to be, a CULT. Ask yourself, for over 30 years, WHAT HAS BEDINI, BEARDEN, STIFFLER etc provided other that little toys to light LEDs.

They all know about Free Energy, but will you ever?.

That is precisely why I DO NOT CARE. As I am learning on my very own. Eric Dollard had already told you of the LIES, he even told you how to get Free Energy. Did anyone care to listen, WELL I DO, and I am getting there.

For ya'll, I can only say, HAPPY EXPERIMENTING

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This captret is nothing but a little toy, sure you can charge batteries, but you do better with other simple devices that produces copious amounts of excess energy from lesser input.

But the captret is a good learning devise. Gather some newspaper, aluminum foil, soda can, and anti freeze, cur em up and build this silly little thing. It don't cost much but you'll have a devise that will charge your alkaline batteries at no additional cost. Now that's Free Energy.

You can do much better, I am almost there with the Dollard Vibrator, 12v @ real usable current, it's so simple it make me

Again, NATURE is very very simple, all you need is an open and an open mind.
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I think this really needs to be tried with some NiMH or NiCd batteries as they do not go up in voltage by their self after use as an Alkaline or lead acid will do. Start with some NiMh that have been sitting a day or two and see if you still observe voltage increases. If I can get the time (super busy right now) I'll try it but I do not believe they will charge up with this circuit. If not then all this is just Alkaline self recovery. Please prove me wrong as I'd like to believe this can work.
You might be right but lead acid doesn't really have an effect of memory. It will relax back to the ability of the chemistry to maintain the potential across the battery. You will find this in just about every battery known to man. NIMH does have a memory and also it is of a different kind of memory though. Coupled with the chemistry memory there is also a capacitance memory. If you don't charge them in the right method they exhibit a memory max charge level. Unless you discharge completely and recharge it fully through several rounds of that you will never get full capacity back from those batteries. On the other hand lead acid does not have this max charge memory effect.

Caps would also be the best option like ultra capacitors. They are on par with batteries to the energy density they have and they can be instantly charged in very small amount of time safely.

I think what we need to do is sit down and see if it is the make of the electrolytic cap that makes all this possible. A three plate capacitor like the s gate that Dr. Stiffler introduced is probably the same concept but where is the signal of the oscillations coming from in our case. The signal that I am seeing is very very tiny. My o scope has to be on 1x probe setting to see the signal. There are 3 distinct pulses that I am seeing and when cars drive by my window I can see the amplitude of the signal get bigger but it doesn't affect the signal in timing.

I just bought 10 220uf 100v caps and I'll let you know what happens when a bunch of them are put together. Since my best setup was 220uf 16v caps I thought I would try the 100v ones to see if this changes at all. It seems to me that 4 of the 16 volt ones actually charged my battery beyond the voltage that I started with when it was fresh from the junk pile.
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I think this really needs to be tried with some NiMH or NiCd batteries as they do not go up in voltage by their self after use as an Alkaline or lead acid will do. Start with some NiMh that have been sitting a day or two and see if you still observe voltage increases. If I can get the time (super busy right now) I'll try it but I do not believe they will charge up with this circuit. If not then all this is just Alkaline self recovery. Please prove me wrong as I'd like to believe this can work.


I have one of my captret self chargers running a 1.2 volt Ni-Cd 350 mAh rechargeable battery (the ones you get out of solar garden lights). It was left sitting for a week, the standing voltage on it was 1.138 volts. Now its up to 1.142 volts.
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