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Old 11-12-2016, 06:14 AM
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The primary is resonant tank circuit working on frequency 1
The secondary is resonant tank circuit working on frequency 2
The secondary contains also antenna and because of that there is also 3 resonant frequency for longitudinal 1/4 wavelength so the secondary is efficient radio transmitter.
You spark primary tank circuit not frequently, but it oscillate freely, secondary oscillate on some harmonics and the resonant LC and the length of antenna is correlated (L= 1/4 wavelength). Antenna instead of transmitting radio around is matched to the output part so all energy from ambient is stored in capacitors.

I do not pretend it works but the essence is something like above.
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The primary is resonant tank circuit working on frequency 1
The secondary is resonant tank circuit working on frequency 2
The secondary contains also antenna and because of that there is also 3 resonant frequency for longitudinal 1/4 wavelength so the secondary is efficient radio transmitter.
You spark primary tank circuit not frequently, but it oscillate freely, secondary oscillate on some harmonics and the resonant LC and the length of antenna is correlated (L= 1/4 wavelength). Antenna instead of transmitting radio around is matched to the output part so all energy from ambient is stored in capacitors.

I do not pretend it works but the essence is something like above.
I understand what you guys are saying. That you want to store the resonant rise power in storage caps. However, both Don Smith who went through showing how to create your own device and two Zilano ciruits, where no storage caps were used and the output trafo was connected directly. Please explain how that could be possible?

Here is the second no spark needed, or HV, HF, and NO STORAGE CAPS!:

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hI this is zilano zane!
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a small scale demo setup! can be upscaled for home use!
take a 12 v 220 or 110 volt 1 amps step down transformer with 2 wires
primary and 2 wires secondary measure L of primary with lcr meter and
use resonance calculator to calculate caps for 50 or 60 hz. use this cap
across primary. then calculate L of secondary with LCR meter and use
resonance calc to get secondary caps value for secondary 50 or 60 hz.
now take another 12v 220 v or 12 v 110 v 1 amp transformer. feed 12 v ac
to ur resonating transformer with caps to its primary it will make it
oscillate in resonance with secondary of resonating secondary with caps.
attach a 220 v or 110 v as ur trasnformer u r using attach load. measure
input power and output power and calculate gain. use iron cored
transformers. core is suitable for 50 hz resonance. attach caps in parallel
across primary and secondary of the transformer.
RESONANCE FREQUENCY IS 50 OR 60 HZ DEPENDING UR GRID
SUPPLY FREQUENCY COUNTRY DEPENDENT. FIND CAPS
ACCORDINGLY. VOLTAGE WILL BE 12 VOLT OR 110 OR 220
VOLT OR CAPS.EG C=X MFD 60 HZ 12 V OR C=X MFD 120 V.
MFD= microfarads.
try it! circuit is below as attachment.
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The primary is resonant tank circuit working on frequency 1
The secondary is resonant tank circuit working on frequency 2
The secondary contains also antenna and because of that there is also 3 resonant frequency for longitudinal 1/4 wavelength so the secondary is efficient radio transmitter.
You spark primary tank circuit not frequently, but it oscillate freely, secondary oscillate on some harmonics and the resonant LC and the length of antenna is correlated (L= 1/4 wavelength). Antenna instead of transmitting radio around is matched to the output part so all energy from ambient is stored in capacitors.

I do not pretend it works but the essence is something like above.


The secondary is a receiver coil, there's two very important frequency, the first is the frequency of HV power source this frequency intended to give a very high reactive current ( as much as you can ) this is a reactive electric power transformed into active power in L1, L1 has its own NATURAL RESONANCE FREQUENCY it have to be a natural resonance because it's an OPEN SYSTEM the word open mean there's an internal interaction between magnetic and electric field ... when the two meet each other you have your REAL ACTIVE POWER ...
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I understand what you guys are saying. That you want to store the resonant rise power in storage caps. However, both Don Smith who went through showing how to create your own device and two Zilano ciruits, where no storage caps were used and the output trafo was connected directly. Please explain how that could be possible?

Here is the second no spark needed, or HV, HF, and NO STORAGE CAPS!:


using two transformer in resonance mode look like a joke, the resonance don't mean you have free energy, we have the resonance almost everywhere but we don't have free energy because the resonance we use work externally not internally, in other words it's a closed system resonance not an open system resonance ..

open system resonance you could join the electric portion with the magnetic portion , when you do that you get a very strong useful radiant energy ... it's like a massless particles, it's a very strange kind of energy, in some test i got a self charged capacitor !!!! some details can be found in my thread , the capacitor remain charged for near 30 min and after short circuit its leg several time for a long period, but when trying to recharge it the phenomena gone

i am not interested in replicating this behavior but i am studying it, it appear there's a lots of interesting thing that can be done only when understanding , this why it's important to explain what's going on rather than giving claims !
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using two transformer in resonance mode look like a joke, the resonance don't mean you have free energy, we have the resonance almost everywhere but we don't have free energy because the resonance we use work externally not internally, in other words it's a closed system resonance not an open system resonance ..

open system resonance you could join the electric portion with the magnetic portion , when you do that you get a very strong useful radiant energy ... it's like a massless particles, it's a very strange kind of energy, in some test i got a self charged capacitor !!!! some details can be found in my thread , the capacitor remain charged for near 30 min and after short circuit its leg several time for a long period, but when trying to recharge it the phenomena gone

i am not interested in replicating this behavior but i am studying it, it appear there's a lots of interesting thing that can be done only when understanding , this why it's important to explain what's going on rather than giving claims !
Med I know how you feel about the ETBC, and I believe there is got to be a resonant component , it seems that all the positive work in OU requires resonance. My thinking is that bifiler coils, even in Tesla patents are for L2 to provide that extra response, I've read that a single wound L2 provides a linear response whereas bifiler provides an exponential one. Do you maintain resonance using your ETBC?
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Med I know how you feel about the ETBC, and I believe there is got to be a resonant component , it seems that all the positive work in OU requires resonance. My thinking is that bifiler coils, even in Tesla patents are for L2 to provide that extra response, I've read that a single wound L2 provides a linear response whereas bifiler provides an exponential one. Do you maintain resonance using your ETBC?



this is not just a felling , i published a video about the 40 W light bulb fired in each 3 second where the input is just a 3 W! the equipment used in this test is very modest ! a tv yoke , 4 ETBC managed in serial, HV power source without maintained resonance, a 1000V fast diode, plus 100 UF/400V capacitor as bank.

after that i was looking for copper foils to work with but i can't find them easily, so the solution is to work with aluminium foils but there's a way How to Solder copper wire to aluminum foil

https://youtu.be/_mYkM9lHMho

the solution is easy and simple ! no need to mechanical contact, i was looking for frequency generator to help me in resonance but we already has it in our computers sound card where you could generate up to 20 KHZ for free i think it's possible to work with less 20KHZ in primary side where it's possible to put a kind of variable inductance to catch the real resonance point ..
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. My thinking is that bifiler coils, even in Tesla patents are for L2 to provide that extra response,


the ETBC is an extended Tesla Bifilar coil not a tesla bifilar coil this look like comparing a page of a book with a book ! the reason for this is the third dimension created with conducting foils ..
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Old 11-18-2016, 02:02 PM
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Adam Tromble Mantra

About OU...

"All we have to do: Is in a resonant domain, introduce an heterodyning wave or standing wave properly, and it increases the effective field density in a given electromagnet circuit. It increases the density of that field by orders of magnitude" Adam Trombly Who brought the Closed Path Homopolar Generator to the UN, by his account he was well received, so much so "they" took all his ****, and told him to not touch it again.

If you don't have resonance don't you just have induction?

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If you don't have resonance don't you just have induction?


when Don Smith asked about the name of his system he said resonance induction system ! it's like you have a resonating coil since the induction is primarily related with coils, the resonance just put your system in optimal condition so you have a huge amount of power ! but be prepared since you need a good hardware !
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Old 11-23-2016, 01:27 PM
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when Don Smith asked about the name of his system he said resonance induction system ! it's like you have a resonating coil since the induction is primarily related with coils, the resonance just put your system in optimal condition so you have a huge amount of power ! but be prepared since you need a good hardware !
Med have you ever gotten your ETBC to run in resonance, self or between your exciter coil (L1)?
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Med have you ever gotten your ETBC to run in resonance, self or between your exciter coil (L1)?




ilandtan,

i am sorry about the disconcertion i may do when i correct something i did, it's normal to make mistakes especially when you work alone , until now i didn't achieved the resonance in ETBC , the concept of L0 ( i think this is what you mean by the exciter coil ) seem to be important but it will affect the resonance of the system due to the high inductance caused by this coil .


there's a strong connection between the ETBC and all Don Smith descriptions about his resonance energy device, but we have to use a ferrite core or anything ferromagnetic material just to help the magnetic side to resonate stronger,

there's a very interesting animated GIF found in the archived Don Smith website :





if you analyse this photo you see the electromagnetic flux generated from a working ETBC ! you see two spinning field locations , the right is the magnetic side , the left is the electric side , in the middle you see the useful radiant energy , the system resonate in a mono direction behavior and this is very strange , the same thing seen in the ETBC , the system give the positive pulse in one direction !!
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Hi Med,

That is an interesting photo, though I don't want to be hypnotized. I'm not sure what I'm looking at, and for that reason I can't speak for or against the validity. I don't want to pretend I can describe the mechanics much less explain the parameters. I am interested in one thing and that's how to prove an effect resulting in significant excess power.

Right now I am trying to sift through all the commonalities of what may work. I do believe that opposing coils and resonance seem to be included. One thing that keeps me away from the ETBC is that I read that Tesla in his Colorado Springs experiment had a hard time arriving at the proper tuning because of the capacitance inherent in the coils. I know I want to have the system resonant and the ETBC seems untune-able as an L2 coil ( I couldn't easily expand or contract the windings to change the induction) . I think if someone found a way to build resonant ETBC, for example uniform construction techniques with formulas to build them consistently close to a designed resonant functionality in the RF spectrum I would be very interested. However, adding to the capacitance may not be all that desirable if you can't make it ring in the circuit. Please correct me if I am wrong (and I am OK with that).
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Hi Med,

That is an interesting photo, though I don't want to be hypnotized. I'm not sure what I'm looking at, and for that reason I can't speak for or against the validity. I don't want to pretend I can describe the mechanics much less explain the parameters. I am interested in one thing and that's how to prove an effect resulting in significant excess power.

Right now I am trying to sift through all the commonalities of what may work. I do believe that opposing coils and resonance seem to be included. One thing that keeps me away from the ETBC is that I read that Tesla in his Colorado Springs experiment had a hard time arriving at the proper tuning because of the capacitance inherent in the coils. I know I want to have the system resonant and the ETBC seems untune-able as an L2 coil ( I couldn't easily expand or contract the windings to change the induction) . I think if someone found a way to build resonant ETBC, for example uniform construction techniques with formulas to build them consistently close to a designed resonant functionality in the RF spectrum I would be very interested. However, adding to the capacitance may not be all that desirable if you can't make it ring in the circuit. Please correct me if I am wrong (and I am OK with that).

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Colorado Springs experiment is another subject if you mean his wireless power transmitter system since it's the most complex machine Tesla ever made.. which device Tesla used to power this wireless mechanism i don't know! the earth ground Tesla used had a complex construction , it seem the capacitance inherent in the coils affect the secondary not the primary , the capacitance isn't a problem if managed properly .. in the ETBC we don't have the displacement current that charge the capacitor because we take those charges in t=0 instantly, the rotating electric field do that because it present all the time as another face of the magnetic field present , because of that you have a magnetic resonance system, the electric side is hidden but it's there as electrons spin mechanism !

in the animated GIF you see in the right a magnetic wave come from the deep space , this is why Don Smith said that waves can travel unrestricted to the deep space !!

another quotes from Don will show some interesting facts :


the key to unlimited energy is Magnetic Resonance. In order to understand this requires putting a stake through the Heart of Antique Physics. Nonlinear and Open Systems are universally available in Magnetic Resonance System



Don has the same problem i am facing now but the solution isn't impossible , with some patience we could solve this problem ! another quote will show this :


Resonance. An important factor in circuits aimed at tapping external energy is resonance. It can be hard
to see where this comes in when it is an electronic circuit which is being considered. However, everything
has it's own resonant frequency, whether it is a coil or any other electronic component. When components
are connected together to form a circuit, the circuit has an overall resonant frequency.



focus in the words overall resonant frequency ! again focus in the word COIL ! it's a simple coil ring naturally in a resonant system offer a good amount of reactive current as an image of high voltage so your ETBC will ring at higher level ! i hope you understand something from this :-)
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there's a proof about the ability of ETBC to be an excellent over unity device , the following photo show the oscillation of ETBC under certain condition where there's an increase in oscillation and after that it decrease but it start over again without any external power !!! and it decrease and so on ...

the photo was published in my thread a long time ago but it's resized and zoomed so it will be clear it's an over unity device .


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Hi Med,

I understand some of what you said, but not sure when you got to the you can ignore the capacitance because of the t=0 thing.

I wondering have you tried making the ETBC two 1/4L (grounded center) and excited it with a 4L primary sparked with series Diode?
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Hi Med,

I understand some of what you said, but not sure when you got to the you can ignore the capacitance because of the t=0 thing.

I wondering have you tried making the ETBC two 1/4L (grounded center) and excited it with a 4L primary sparked with series Diode?

Hi !


the capacitance isn't ignored but it work with the inductance in harmony ... this mean the two ( L + C ) make the same thing , this capacitance is formed along the coil and differ from parasite capacitance, it's charged by the difference electrons spin .. it's not an electrostatic charges even the capacitive side collect more ambient electrons.. everything appear in dynamic state , the ETBC give the max power when the electrons change the spin direction here you have a useful radiant energy, the capacitor is bypassed since it's already short circuited in X ( Unknown ) region, when this coil ring it will push current I and voltage V the two at the same time! this is normal because you have L + C in one device the reactive will transfer into active instantly in the moment when the electrons change the spin direction ..


about your practical question if you mean making the ETBC as secondary , i think i tried something like this but all my test is paused but i will start again very soon ( insha Allah ) .

in my opinion the ETBC don't work when used as secondary because it tend to oscillate but there's other scenarios will be published when a practical test is done an important schematic can be tested is the following ( it's from another thread from this forum )


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In the above post just change L1 with an ETBC with a ferrite core, large width foils are preferable when making the ETBC, this proposal is a solution when a relatively large ferrite ring isn't available ( if you have a good ferrite ring i suggest working with the serial ETBC ) large width foils will produce a huge electric current, i suggest using between 6 cm and 10 cm foils width, the diameter of former have to be less than 2 cm.

try the above schematic but L1 can be the ETBC in serial with another coil ( the two core must be separated ) this coil has one job it's there to help achieving the resonance so you can manage this inductance according the available high voltage capacitor connected in parallel with L1 , we need to success in this stage !
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Came across a video using an ETBC.

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Came across a video using an ETBC.




very interesting find, thanks for posting this , my recent experiments show it's possible to achieve significant power with very little component no spark gap ,
only good earth ground is needed , one ETBC wrapped around ferrite rod made locally , the pickup coil is a large turn number coil , using a diode plug from one end of the secondary it's possible to draw significant power , the ETBC resonate using Mazzilli driver and the connection is really simple, i am just working around some specific ideas to see how further i could go with a resonating ETBC .
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Came across a video using an ETBC.



after examining the video the device used look like the ETBC but it's not .. he used the four extremity as transformer but the ETBC in itself is an energy pump, from this point of view it have to be used in high voltage resonating system to give its real power ...
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The only thing that has to be shielded is the spark gap, and, if you use the enclosed gap and a low enough voltage, you won't get an xray nor will harmful waves get you. I've messed with this now for a while and have figured it all out finally. The entire device can be covered in a grounded case (faraday cage), minus an antenna which only needs to connect to the wires outputting the secondary coil where the diodes connect. The other end of the coil goes to ground, and, to my surprise, it doesn't even need to be grounded if the primary coil is one turn and the secondary 100 because the rectified ends of the coil can connect to two separate, isolated antennas mounted to your car (isolated from the chassis of course, and protected from flashover from a good dielectric and rain shields. The other end of the coil can go to the ground of the battery and a ground strap from the chassis can touch the ground to create the same, if not even more energy since the difference in potential acts like it's a greater distance apart from the elevation that the amperage nearly quadruples in the circuit. We only have to favor one end of the coil after it starts operating with a load since the tuning can be adjusted after a load is added to the output. Once the device is loaded, the battery could be disconnected and it will run itself. The key secret is the device that is at the end of the system. I figured it out and he insisted that the device didn't need to be used. That device adjusts the frequency for him, it uses an inductor coil, and, on the inside of the tube is a capacitor. It's the frequency adjustment filter that is obtained by matching the frequencies on the chart given in his pdf, however, the chart is wrong. There are online calculators to figure this out online, and, they are accurate as well.

Good luck, it is worth it's weight in gold because it replaces hydroelectric, solar, wind power , oil, gas, coal, and of course the ridiculously expensive paid for electricity. Don sold the technology to generating companies that are owned by energy companies, oil companies, etc., in the effort to eliminate fossil fuels and offer a free enrgy device without giving all of the secrets away, however, it took me years to gather the info and parts as some of the parts are difficult top even find, however, leyden jars will work just fine if built large enough. Government has done their all to threaten folks over it, however, they can't do much to those using these overseas!

My device was grounded in a stream nearly 200' lower than my lab, and, I built a curled copper antenna connected to an isolated high dielectric mica coated insulator I made from microwave shielding. The antenna was 30' over my roof and ground was 200 plus feet driven deep into my stream below me. The difference in potential would have been 1200 volts, however, I utilized the end of the coil which he stated was to build amperage, so, I have a massive difference in amperage, from 1/4 the added voltage to 1/8 more amperage. The current is so much that I use what I need, I can't possibly bog down the source, it's an absolute home run!

I use an older nst from ebay, and, an EPSCO 5500 volt enclosed gas discharge tube for the arc along with 5000 watt microwave oven diodes, connected in parallel. The output will create fireballs in a shorted condition, and, since it is made from cold electricity, the highh voltage is dangerous, but not nearly as devatstating as the stuff the utility company uses. I forced the system to run an output of 35,000 watts driving many of my neighbor's appliances, lights, irons, blow dryers, etc., all higher amperage devices and the device modified it's current to suit their operation, almost as if it were listening to what it needed. The circuit is amazing.. It certainly has a bunch of Tesla built in!!

DO NOT FOLLOW THE ONLINE DIAGRAMS!! ALL OF THE DEVICE's IMAGES ARE ONLINE TO MAKE IT FUNCTIONAL.. All we need to do is to connect all self healing caps of the correct value together to invite the flow of amperage for the coil that it's connected to .. the top coil is the amperage coil!

Good Luck To All! I have many answers. Please ask away..

I just pray daily to thank Don for being able to share before he passed on..


Thank you for your golden input.
Please can you share with me the correct Don Smith circuit which includes the proper way to connects the Antenna?
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I'm looking for a video on youtube that showed a spark gap primary, and a center tapped secondary that I think was grounded, and two diodes were attached to the center tap charging a bank of capacitors (as an avramenko plug). I seem to remember it might of been from China.

If anybody could point me to that video I would greatly appreciate it.
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I am of the Zilano Crack

This video has some of the most interesting discussions, and at least three people on different threads of the video, claim to had a working 2.2KW DS device(that includes the video poster). Read the threads and enjoy. I am officially off the Zilano replication track, and just doing the suitcase device.




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This video has some of the most interesting discussions, and at least three people on different threads of the video, claim to had a working 2.2KW DS device(that includes the video poster). Read the threads and enjoy. I am officially off the Zilano replication track, and just doing the suitcase device.




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A link to a schematic has been posted on youtube page: https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/sh...hare_link_copy

This guy has also replicated Kapandze. In addition he has a number of patents for free energy devices which work on the principle of muon capture to produce energy. Which makes me think both Don Smith's device and Kapandze may also work on this same principle.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCms...CV-jgJ2P1UirMg

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/mydo...e&locale=en_EP

http://overunity.com/7679/selfrunnin...attach/161059/
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A link to a schematic has been posted on youtube page: https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/sh...hare_link_copy

This guy has also replicated Kapandze. In addition he has a number of patents for free energy devices which work on the principle of muon capture to produce energy. Which makes me think both Don Smith's device and Kapandze may also work on this same principle.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCms...CV-jgJ2P1UirMg

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/mydo...e&locale=en_EP

http://overunity.com/7679/selfrunnin...attach/161059/
I just created that schematic last week, It is a beta illustration. It's not a proven working device. It's what I have compiled from what chuck told me, and what I have laying around, so I can test the theory. It was meant for chuck's review. I have taken it down because it isn't proven.
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