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Old 04-16-2011, 03:43 AM
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I have finished the new beach sand batteries, and they are showing the expected results of much higher mA readings. But there is a catch... they are working just like a capacitor. When first connected to the meter each battery will bounce the meter's needle up to about 40 mA. Then drop fairly quickly (one minute) as I am watching, down to about 3 mA, and stay there. The voltage is almost 2 volts at first, but also drops to about 1.2 volts, or so after a while. In any case they are stronger than the previously made ones, but still drop down to a lower light level after a while.
I have not been able to light a Joule Thief with them yet, even when three of them in series are showing 6 volts readings. I have not had a chance to connected them both in series as well as in parallel, at the same time yet, Or to connect the right Jt to them, with no resistor in the circuit, like I did with my solar Jtc.
I think that making a copper coil that goes inside of the can that looks like one coil of the Basher cone antenna, may work better than a straight coil. Same principal perhaps. I have one coil ready made for that test next.
I think that these are capacitor-batteries, but like a lower farad capacitor they don't hold their original standing charge for long, but do bounce back quickly. I know they would charge the right capacitor bank or a battery if given enough time, as I've already tried to charge a capacitor, with success. The one with weakest voltage and current will restrict the flow of juice to the rest of them in series, just like a restriction in a water hose.
Great fun, so far...
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Thanks for clarification Vtech .
Will you make the one with winding like this 3D version bellow?

Notice that it is different from yours.
If we look always from the top, the winding goes CW as the loop get smaller to reach the top, and then starting the winding again also CW from the top to get smaller to the bottom.

If we trace the wire route from bottom standing cone and always see from the top; your first one CW going up, CCW going down; your second one CCW going up and CW going down.
Do they both have same energy pattern?
So the close loop interconnect both bashar antenna?
I spent another few hours following Russell. Just when thought that I finally understood I came to the conclusion that it can be interpreted in two different ways.
Bashar antenna is simple; you keep winding in one direction up and down in the same direction - cw, just like in the pic below.
Russell coils are somewhat different. Now, when I read over from his description - "the inner coils are wound from the ends toward the center in opposite direction. The outer coils are wound from the center toward ends in opposite directions" - it did appear to me what it means (I hope I'm right this time). I tried to wind small model based on that and it didn't make sense, as well as my bigger coils. What Russell means by inner and outer coils?
If we see the coils as vortex, then the beginning/enter/input would be the wide part. That's where the vortex starts forming. Following this, inner coil would be the one which has bases in the center and apices facing out (two cones connected with bases).
Outer coil is the one made of two cones connected with apexes.
What was confusing in Russell description was "opposite direction" mentioned twice and suggesting that opposite cones have opposite winding directions and that's the way I made my cones. Beside, this comment under the picture wasn't made by Russell but someone who wrote about him. If you eliminate first "opposite direction" leaving the last one then entire thing make sense.
What I think it suppose to mean is that INNER and OUTER coils are wound i opposite direction. Inner coil (cones connected with bases) is wound CCW (Fig.127) and outer is wound IN OPPOSITE DIRECTION - CW (Fig.126).
As a consequence we have two coils which are assembled together. Also, as I thought at first (but did wrong) they are two identical coils (as per Bashar) but connected in the center (apex to apex and base to base) instead of connecting apex with base of one set. Now, we have two coils; inner and outer with outside wires; two from apexes of inner coil and two from bases of outer coil. The equator, also marked as "0" in the Phi, or equilibrium zone or a Bloch Wall - same as in bifilar coil, wound with twisted (Litz) wire. If we stimulate this tank into vibration and compressing/decompressing time/space and energy starts flowing in pulses accordingly from the vacuum through the zero point? What do you think
But when I look at the central picture of entire assembly, those arrows are messing things up again. While right side (both cones) seems correct, the left one has arrows suddenly changing direction I can't find more info from Russell about this. I think it was described in the book which I don't have - Atomic Suicide. I need to go through those I have again and perhaps to rewind those coils and .....find out.


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Thanks for clarification Vtech .

Notice that it is different from yours. Yes, and I think I did mistake...

If we look always from the top, the winding goes CW as the loop get smaller to reach the top, and then starting the winding again also CW from the top to get smaller to the bottom. Yes, correct. Again, I did follow written description which I found confusing.
Do they both have same energy pattern?
When I checked it was changing. At one moment left side was stronger after a while the right side took over.

So the close loop interconnect both bashar antenna?
When done the way which now I think it should be done they could be looped since there is one direction from base to apex as well as one direction through inner and outer coil but I don't think they should be connected outside. Only in the center.


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Old 04-16-2011, 06:13 AM
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The pictures and diagrams may be wrong, I would forget Russel for now.
So long as the one coil is cw and the other is ccw should be all that is important. The pic of your last small coils you show, look right to me.
It is also the same way that I will do my next cement battery, as the cone shape coil inverted up through itself is working best in my set up, with alot more mAs. Baking power (not soda) was also added.
Please explain about the Jt connected to the cement battery not draining the charge. How many total mAs are you drawing, and total voltage also? Are you using a resistor, if so, of what value?
Thanks in advance for the info, and good luck with your Antenna Coil.
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I need to take a break. My head is spinning.
Nick, take a transistor (I use 2N2222). Solder LED between the C-E (cathode to the E. Connect the B to the 20 -50kOhm pot. E is negative of your battery. C goes to one end of one coil. Center pin from the pot goes to the end of second coil. Remaining wires from both coils are connected together and go to the positive of your battery. Coil can be 35 -40ft of thin #30 or near wire wound together (bifilar) on piece of iron (1/8" thick) or can be an air coil. I used this to oscillate my copper cones and small starship coil. It will start to oscillate at 0.75V and light LED at 3mA. At 5mA LED will be fully bright. You may notice brightest LED in certain spot, not necessary lowest pot resistance. Also, you may found a spot where your battery sits for a long time powering LED and is not dropping fast.

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Old 04-17-2011, 02:47 AM
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Thank you for the information. I also watched your video which helped a lot to understand your point. Now I see what is happening.
I am a bit disappointed in that my newer cement batteries are not holding a charge either, and the led light becomes dim after a while, although it does not go completely out. They are working more like a capacitor than a batteries. The single Led I use is also a blue one, is not as bright as yours although it starts about as same intensity, but as you mentioned they will drop down and become dim. A useless intensity, just like a indicator light. I normally find that the Jtc is taking more power that it gives when connected to such a low mA circuit, but in your case it looks like the trim pot is regulating that to a degree. I have burnt out my pots, and have not been able to replace them yet. Although I have one that may work to somewhat to test your idea. I have tried to connect the batteries to a Jt with no resistor, but the leds (3 on that Jtc) still will not light when going through it. I can light three leds connected direct to the batteries.
I also tried a combination of series and parallel connections with the batteries, but also no luck there. Maybe it will work like yours does with just a resistor on the cement batteries, to keep the voltage and mAs from dropping as fast. I'll get it sooner or later.
Anyways, my head is also spinning... thanks again, for your help.

@ Sucahyo: I watched your video about making the cemenite, and it looks like they are good for just about everything. Are they good for curing spinning heads? Thanks for the link to your videos.
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Old 04-18-2011, 05:07 AM
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NickZ, I think cone coil inside cement battery will act more like electrode. I think we should put the cap / battery inside / between the field of the cone coil.

I try to peel my cell and let it dry completely, and now it no longer produce voltage.

Vtech, thanks for the info. Interesting that energy can flip side slowly.

Here is russell picture related to cone, click to zoom:











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@ Sucahyo: I watched your video about making the cemenite, and it looks like they are good for just about everything. Are they good for curing spinning heads? Thanks for the link to your videos.
Sometimes cemenite can help ease headache, especially if it related to nightmare or hard to sleep effect.
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Old 04-18-2011, 03:30 PM
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Sucahyo:
I did not sleep hardly at all last night, and this morning I feel very bad, worse than when I went to sleep last night. I guess I am worried, or maybe it was the moon affects. Whatever it is I feel like hell today.
I looked into orgone energy devices, and read about cemenite also. Very interesting stuff. Specially about the vegetables growing so much bigger. If the Pot growers knew about that, they would all change over to that way, and utilize that method for growth improvement.

Possibly since I sleep in a pyramid, any environmental affects or moon effects may also affect me, positively as well as negatively. As I spend 1/3 of my life inside that Cosmic Antenna.

I see that what Bc is mentioning about connecting the Jt type device to the cement batteries is probably the way to go. But only if each battery puts out at least 5 mAs, which mine don't after a while. My older beach sand batteries are also hardily putting out any current at all, although will still light an led or two when two are connect in series. And the newer ones are working just like a capacitor, starting out nice and strong but becoming weak after a while once connected. I tried connecting them all (6) in series, as well as in parallel, but that does not help, as there seams to be too much resistance or loss between them to link more than two or three of them together like that. Again, the weakest ones will also limit the flow through the rest of them. Some other guys have had some luck with that though. I still want to place the cone coil inverted through itself inside the can, as the last try, if that doesn't work I'll give it up, at least with using sand. They are still the only "free light" I have made yet.
I also tried to connect them to the secondary of my strongest Jtc, that has a pot, but a single led only lights for a few seconds before going out. I can light 3 or more leds directly connected to the cans, but again, they don't last very long lighting brightly that way. A bit frustrating so far.
Yesterday was the day that Bashar spoke in San Francisco, but there is no new information on that yet, or on the Space Antenna Yahoo Groups site:
YouTube - Bashar - Free Energy Space-Time Antenna with Photos

I can't afford to buy that much thick insulated copper wire just to have the antenna sitting there not doing anything. I'm still hoping that it will work, even though nobody have been able to light even an Led off of it.
Thanks for the info on Russel ideas. He would not have mentioned that the coils "work", if they don't.
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Old 04-19-2011, 01:24 AM
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Thanks for the pictures sucahyo I had only couple of them. I'm hoping to get that book (Atomic Suicide) which may have more explanation on his experiment. To me Bashar coil is an antenna while Russell's suppose to be the device. We don't know what else is missing from this blueprint but Bashar coil appear to be the exact half of Russell's. Both say it has to be energized. I do believe that it needs DC pulse, not just a wire snap on the coil. Possibly two signals of different freq. It may require relatively small input but it will have to be supplied in continuous matter. It is just the way I suspect. I maybe totally wrong.
Shauberger did read Russel's work. There are also similarities in thinking way in Ed's work and writings. Not to mention the pyramids with their messages engraved on the walls. Male and female energies represented by symbols as well as process of "giving" and "receiving" (or passing on). Russels were way too serious to call up Norad and request forwarding message to the president if it was only a hype. They got it. So did Schauberger, so did Ed. Who's next?
I know that my coils are too small, not because of Bashar description but mere feeling.


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What if we took the Bashar cone coils and put a bifiliar rodin coil in the around the intersection point. Then pulse one ciruit of the rodin coil as the input frequency and use the other as a pickup circuit after the pulse travels outward and collapses back inward to the intersection. The idea is to use the Bashar cone coil as an electromagnetic amplifier.
This is more of a "brainstorm" idea than based on any particular experience, but it may be worth a shot.
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What if we took the Bashar cone coils and put a bifiliar rodin coil in the around the intersection point. Then pulse one ciruit of the rodin coil as the input frequency and use the other as a pickup circuit after the pulse travels outward and collapses back inward to the intersection. The idea is to use the Bashar cone coil as an electromagnetic amplifier.
This is more of a "brainstorm" idea than based on any particular experience, but it may be worth a shot.
Good thinking As you can see on some of my pics with cones I have a Rodin in between or near. I also tried a starship. There is one unknown to me regarding Rodin in such setup; how it should be done? How many deg. apart? 45 - 90 - 105?
Beside, I was imagining Rodin coil as a collector, not the input..but who knows?
I had to leave them alone for couple of days to get my thinking straight but will do some more work and perhaps wind them bigger with more wire.

Thanks for idea
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NickZ, I think cemenite can help reduce moon effect. I think you should make cemenite.

For agriculture, the last time I bury it do not produce bad effect to dragon fruit plant, it still grow new branch. I don't have chance to observe it unfortunately. I bury it for other reason.

Strange event happen just few days after I bury cemenite. Caterpilaar attack happen near the location where I bury cemenite. The caterpilar attack coincindentally never reach the vilage where I bury the cemenite even when the attack spread to some other places in Java Island.
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About cement battery, I still looking for clue about how to make it properly. Hopefully there will be waterless version in the future.


I wonder when Bashar will release information about how to complete the space time antenna.

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I seam to have picked up some kind of virus, and again did not sleep last night, also had a fever. The moon was not the cause, although I do have a problem sleeping on full moon nights.
Sucahyo- yes, we get the same thing with the caterpillars here in Costa Rica, but they usually don't last too long. I reminds me of the locusts in some places that eat everything, sometimes including people, if true. Some of them can sting very hard, and hurts for a long time.
The cement batteries are working better with the inverted coil, much more mAs. I also made a test using only 1/2 of the can and a straight copper tube, and that one only outputs half the voltage and one mA, but still works together with the others to produce a higher output.
Maybe if several of cement batteries are connected together to produce 12 volts, although they drop down in output, they still may produce enough current to power things without dropping to dim level. I'll make some more when I feel better.
The space antenna project reminds me of the many years spent trying to make the TPU work as in the Steven Mark videos. And still no cigar.
I hope this antenna coil will be different, and not so much speculation, or guessing. I keep checking for an update.
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:43 AM
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I looks like the Hartley Occillator is the way to go with the cement batteries, as that occillator will work at very low current, which is what these batteries lack the most of. Blackchisel- your circuit sounds like a regular joule thief with pot, and different type of straight air core coil. I tried to make the coil on a ball point pen inside 1/8" tube, but have not got it right yet. I need more of the 30 gauge wire.
The Hartley Occillator mentioned above can run on Micro Amps, and it looks like it feeds-back to the battery, so it can run on an AA for months. There are many versions of it, I'm still looking into it, but it does seam like the way to go, to make the best use of the cement batteries.
This is one version of it:
YouTube - hartley oscillator update.MOV
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Old 04-22-2011, 04:12 PM
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Just took a pic of my sand and cement batteries, and I thought I'd pass it along. Just beach sand and cement mostly. The cans with the spiral copper tube and baking powder added will take a charge and hold it for a while.

Guys, have you seen this device (second picture)? But will it fly?

Anybody having any luck with their space antenna project???

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I studied W.Russell for many years and I was very confused about the pair of spirals going CW and CCW, mentioned in page 251 (THE SECRET OF LIGHT)
At last I think about a possible mistake in the drawing.
If a spiral never changes direction, and if the pair of spirals goes in opposite directions, the arrows in fig. 60 are wrong.
(printing is not avoided of errors)
Ill try to make such a coil, but as someone noted here, if it is a device, may be it has to be activated before working ?
Only experimentation will answer as Russell cannot help us now
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Old 05-05-2011, 02:38 PM
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@ Interdesign:
I had seen the same thing in Russel's drawings. It impossible to say what is right. I would follow the Bashar antenna coil design, as it is simpler and easier to follow. They probably both function is similar way.

There is a new video out now (3rd of May) by Morpher on YouTube with a new coil antenna, full size 2 foot tall model. I still have not heard of any power coming off of it, yet. I think that the Bashar antenna design is similar to a Tv antenna, in that without the rest of the Tv circuit, just the antenna by itself may be useless. Hopefully the needed information will be soon forthcoming...
Good luck with your antenna coils, please let us know how it goes, and thanks for reactivating this thread, I was missing it.
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I studied W.Russell for many years and I was very confused about the pair of spirals going CW and CCW, mentioned in page 251 (THE SECRET OF LIGHT)
At last I think about a possible mistake in the drawing.
If a spiral never changes direction, and if the pair of spirals goes in opposite directions, the arrows in fig. 60 are wrong.
(printing is not avoided of errors)
Ill try to make such a coil, but as someone noted here, if it is a device, may be it has to be activated before working ?
Only experimentation will answer as Russell cannot help us now
Cheers

Alvaro
Hi Alvaro, Yes, it is confusing and it almost looks like either Russell or someone else drew these arrows to hide a concept. I have no doubt that it was operational device if he tried to reach the president and got NORAD attention. To me Bashar antenna is only a half of the picture. Beside, I have a feeling that Bashar antenna alone is not "electrical device" (not meant to tap and convert energy into large amount of electricity. There may be potential appearing but it may not be a primary function. If I may use a similarity to ham antenna, stretched 20m above the ground; we can measure potential and quite a serious one during the storm but that's not the purpose of it. It is antenna designed to receive and/or transmit on certain band (freq).
What if we're the receivers or transceiver in this case and Bashar device is an antenna per se, designed to make us sensitive to a certain "band"?
I'm not trying to propagate ET communication here, just a thought.


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Thanks to all of you for the kind sharing
I lived all the 90s in the southern side of Venezuela, close to the Brazilian border, in "La Gran Sabana" (google it if curious) and while studying Russell among other, some friends and I, we made an aluminum frame antenna based on a cube with six spirals coming from its center to the sides, but its purpose was to enhance the sensibility in reception while meditating. Therefore ET nor IT comm. scares me. . . ha ha !
All this is (or should be) about the relationship between geometry and the essence of this our Universe, as this thread is titled PYRAMID, and may be the electric or electronic aspect of it, is not so far of all our experiments.
Anyway, Im glad of knowing that a lot of clever people geographically so distant are so close
Alvaro
PS. Im still working with a small pyramid and will post here if any interesting results.
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:36 PM
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The reason that we are sometimes talking about things that don't relate directly with a pyramids, is because indirectly they do relate...
Even the Bashar antenna coil is meant to be part of something that fits inside a 3 foot pyramid, or tetrahedron.
I have a 6.5 foot pyramid, and I'm am waiting for the result of the Bashar antenna coil tests. As it costs over a hundred dollars just for the copper wire alone to build the minimum 2 foot size antenna coils. I would probably have to make my antenna about 3 foot tall or so, to fit inside my pyramid.
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Old 05-06-2011, 04:21 AM
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I sent you several messages and you don't answer. Are you OK or God forbid something happened? I had depression for 3 weeks with my health it is normal and also PC BREAKING.
Getting better now and back on the track.
I am going to construct something related to JT Circuit if i find cores I need
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Old 06-17-2011, 01:44 AM
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I studied W.Russell for many years and I was very confused about the pair of spirals going CW and CCW, mentioned in page 251 (THE SECRET OF LIGHT)
At last I think about a possible mistake in the drawing.
If a spiral never changes direction, and if the pair of spirals goes in opposite directions, the arrows in fig. 60 are wrong.
(printing is not avoided of errors)
Ill try to make such a coil, but as someone noted here, if it is a device, may be it has to be activated before working ?
Only experimentation will answer as Russell cannot help us now
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Alvaro
it is not winding direction its "energy" direction

Or better to say in "rusell world" there is not opposite like negative or positive...

"?" is NOT wrong for compression , it goes from center to edges

but winding is the same direction, so your assumption is correct


Also other coil , from outer to center, it compress, and compression is marked as arrow

So if you want to compress "magnet field" in the center you use opposite direction of winding for coil that is pointed in center
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Old 06-17-2011, 03:04 PM
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Thanks for posting on this thread, I have been missing it, as we discussed many things here.
I agree that the important point is the direction of the energy, from outside towards the center, and out the poles. That energy this energy is implosive and accumulative, but not destructive. The same force that is found acting inside a pyramid.
If you make a pyramid like a diamond, the energy pattern is complete. But in any case there is always an invisible reverse polarity energy pyramid under a regular pyramid, that completes and balances the circuit. Same with the Russel coils.
Who knows what is really under the Great Pyramid, but I'll bet that it is so important that we won't hear about it, for as long as possible. 2012,???
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Old 06-17-2011, 03:57 PM
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Hi Alvaro, Yes, it is confusing and it almost looks like either Russell or someone else drew these arrows to hide a concept. I have no doubt that it was operational device if he tried to reach the president and got NORAD attention. To me Bashar antenna is only a half of the picture. Beside, I have a feeling that Bashar antenna alone is not "electrical device" (not meant to tap and convert energy into large amount of electricity. There may be potential appearing but it may not be a primary function. If I may use a similarity to ham antenna, stretched 20m above the ground; we can measure potential and quite a serious one during the storm but that's not the purpose of it. It is antenna designed to receive and/or transmit on certain band (freq).
What if we're the receivers or transceiver in this case and Bashar device is an antenna per se, designed to make us sensitive to a certain "band"?
I'm not trying to propagate ET communication here, just a thought.


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I think the Walter Russell Coils are wound like this.
http://wv0auw.bay.livefilestore.com/...002.JPG?psid=1

I cannot say for sure though, and i haven't worked out how they should be used yet. Any idea's ?

I think the coils go inside each other.

Since you guy's have such an awesome thread going on here I will link these pic's of Otis'. I like the experiments you guys are doing by the way.
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/..._sm.png?psid=1

http://kobjxq.bay.livefilestore.com/..._sm.png?psid=1

http://kobjxq.bay.livefilestore.com/..._sm.png?psid=1

And this was his Buggy.
http://kobjxq.bay.livefilestore.com/...010.jpg?psid=1

We can see Otis supposidly used two cone's (base's joined) as a core and wound coils on it, it was suspended by its points and commutators were there at the points. The (dual cone shaped) spinning coils or gyro's passed through the feild of C shaped or horse shoe field magnets the field magnets were excited and produced thrust for rotation against the gyro's which were lensless in my opinion because they were rotating and the field magnets and stator were counter rotating, the energy generated in the gyro coils is stored in the capacitor plates and the central accumulator which excited the field magnets by commutators or through solid state switching. The central accumulator (battery) also started the process.

However the I think for flight the gyro's have a shere hollowed out in the center and are filled with mercury. That is not important to us, only the mechanism for the production of the excess energy is what I am interested in. But if i make one one day I will weigh it while it runs. If it stays on the bench that is.

Anyway I think there is definately something to these conical coil configurations, if you look at two cones with the bases joined from the side it looks like a square, but if you look at it from the top or bottom it looks like a circle, if you only look a one half from the side it looks like a triangle. It is a universal shape Otis said in a radio interview " It is the universal shape and it is the shape of the universe". Make's sense.

Cheers

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Old 06-18-2011, 01:06 AM
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The Unipolar generator shown by Nikola is very interesting in that, two counter rotating discs produce induced currents when properly orientated in a magnetic field. The current flows from the perifery to the center in one disc and from the center to the perifery in the other.

Maybe this could be applied to the thinking on the Russell coils, being wound couter wise to each other a similar thing might happen.

Page 465 in this document the Unipoar generator section starts, diagram page 466.
The inventions, researches and writings of Nikola Tesla, with special reference to his work in polyphase currents and high potential lighting : Martin, Thomas Commerford, 1856-1924 : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

Also in the Otis Buggy there are twice as many field magnets as Gyro coils, and it looks to me as though the Field magnets are energised as the capacitor plates cut the field of the C shaped magnets also. I think this would induce currents in them.

I was looking for a one wire motor and found this so I share what I found.

Cheers

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Old 06-18-2011, 02:19 PM
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Blackchisel, I think the extra indicators going the other direction to the wind on the Russell coils is to indicate the direction of the opposite, either the opposite coil winding direction, or the Aether flow in the other direction.

Like in this diagram of Walters.
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/...ram.jpg?psid=1

There are the dark vorticies drawn with arrows drawn to indicate a flow to the center, and there are the (dashed line) vorticies with arrows indicating a flow from the center.

Much like with electricity there is a flow in both directions, of course, there must be. The theory being in my opinion if we interact with one of the flows and remove energy say from the outgoing flow, this would cause an imbalance that could only be rebalanced by an increased flow inwards then out again to where the energy was imbalanced. And the inverse of that too I think maybe both flows can be tapped simultainously.

Anyway I don't actually think there will ever be a way to take any usable amount of energy from passive coils, in my opinion they need to be excited vigorously with an initial outlay from something a hand turned Van-Degraff machine maybe. High voltages would also be needed for lots of power.

I can't see how it would be possible to pull 200 watts out of just a pair of coils sitting there or even 10 watts to be honest. However if these coils were used in an electro-dynamo-magnetic machine things could be very interesting.

I have no idea what to do with them solid state wise.

Where do we connect the load ?

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Old 06-21-2011, 08:28 AM
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Anyway I don't actually think there will ever be a way to take any usable amount of energy from passive coils, in my opinion they need to be excited vigorously with an initial outlay from something a hand turned Van-Degraff machine maybe. High voltages would also be needed for lots of power.
I can't see how it would be possible to pull 200 watts out of just a pair of coils sitting there or even 10 watts to be honest. However if these coils were used in an electro-dynamo-magnetic machine things could be very interesting.
I have to agree... but ...
It may be that we need to think out-side-the box a bit here.
I have been wondering about the demos that Hendershot performed,
with all his witnesses. If his device was a hoax, he would have had to hide
batteries or use something radioactive. His device was built by engineers w/o him touching anything ...and was made to work.
I doubt very much that he could have hoaxed his device.

One thing that interests me is that he was looking at improving the so called "induction compass" and stumbled upon a phenomenon
with Earth's magnetic field.

See the fluxgate magnetometers.
There is a primary coil and a secondary coil wrapped around
a ferromagnetic core. The primary is pulsed. The secondary
is used for measuring.
Imagine now using two coils, yes, but interpenetrating cones --
ala BASHAR -- and also having them be LARGE air coils instead.
The advantage to air coils is that B equals H .. and they
are very sensitive.

I'm wondering if the input power, if it was made to exactly
balance the earth's magnetic field in your location ... might that
not set up an interesting oscillation ... and be highly
sensitive to geomagnetic and solar events.
It is true that you can generate power directly from the earth's field,
if you have a spinning coil alone. Wouldn't it be interesting,
to design a device that doesn't need the coil to move?
You instead want to move the field near the coil.

Think "Zero Point". By exactly balancing your created field ...
with the Earth's field ... you create a situation like
artificially STILL WATER on a pond. The slightest
event creates LARGE ripples on the surface of the water.

Once an oscillation is establish and if it can be made to sustain,
pulling power is easy using the germanium AC to DC converter --
full wave rectification.

If it is magnetic fields you want to receive and utilize as power ...
you need to devise a way to do that giving you the most gain.

These field fluctuations are mechanical and LOW FREQUENCY,
so a "tuned" circuit would need large inductance.

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Old 06-21-2011, 12:08 PM
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Hi morpher, I think you might be onto something there, I'm actually in the process of winding this coil.

https://skydrive.live.com/P.mvc#!/?c...DCCE17F%211226

It is kind of like the Bashir Coils in that the primary is an upside down conical coil compared to the bottom part of the secondary. But the secondary will have a lot of turns, over 1000 turns I think. I hope to have it finished tonight.

Back to it.

Edit. Here it is. This should be good for a laugh. The secondary is an upside down garden light with 950 turns wrapped on it and the primary is 9 3/4 turns on toothpicks mounted on the bottom part of a Plant Pot.
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=32a91...1228&sc=photos

https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=32a91...1229&sc=photos

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The present invention relates to a device to collect, concentrate, bind and radiate wandering energy which is propagated on a electrical carrier wave, this device being made up by a surface in the shape of regular pyramid, octahedral, cone or surface of revolution, in particular a spherical surface, which are used as mean of collecting and concentration of the wandering or biological energy which is propagated on an electrical wave.

At the interior of the aforesaid surface in the pyramid which can be made out of an unspecified material, metallic or not, are mounted with an electrically insulting formed of copper rollings of helical whorls around axis parallels between them and with the axis of surface. The ends of said rollings exceed teh basic wall of the pyramid and end in feet of copper which join the diffusers.

The aforementioned energy or biological energy which is propagated on an electrical carrier wave, concentrated by the aforementioned surface, induced in excited rollings up by the terrestrial magnetic field and by an optional auxiliary variable magnetic field a flow of energy which radiates outside through the feet of copper in the form of a beam of electric and/or electromagnetic waves.



G. Fantuzzi -- Orgone Accumulator -- French Patent 2264406

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