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Old 07-04-2010, 12:15 PM
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What energizer/machine to build for car/house etc..?

Hey guys, im just starting to learn about the over-unity and Bedini's work and i was hoping the gurus/experts of the forum can help us out by providing more definition of which type of machine to use to power these devices...

1) House(100 Lbs Rotor?)
2) Electric Car(100 Lbs Rotor?)

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3) Mountain Bike (12.5MPH 250 Pounds + @ 100 Watts)

What device/machine/energizer would be best for these items?

I was hoping we can get a long list with a relative device stickied for new comers like myself...

EDIT: Ok, I think i just answered the question on my own, mass = energy. So all we need to do is scale up the mass of the rodor and use a certain calculation to find the total output...

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Old 07-04-2010, 11:30 PM
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hello adam,

bedini motor is not Over Unity, at this time still dont exist any "open source" device that can power your house or car for free.

but that is what we all are searching and awaiting for, welcome!

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Old 07-04-2010, 11:43 PM
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From reading I thought some have achieved OU or atleast close to it...not to offend you but im pretty sure your wrong...
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:53 PM
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my friend, you r right! a lot off people allready have achieved overunity, but somehow they saved the information for themselfs or were buyed by some powerfull corporation.

you have actually hundreds of people searching and building to replicate a OU device, no one till this moment have shared any information of sucessefull replication of some kind of free energy device to the public.

and there are really very intel guys here, that spend a lot of work and some money, and even have allready trying to replicate patents from 100 years ago without sucess.

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Old 07-04-2010, 11:58 PM
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Please help me understand how this is not over unity..

YouTube - Bedini School Girl Project OverUnity Solid State Free Energy
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Old 07-05-2010, 12:12 AM
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you have hundreds of videos like that one in the youtube, calling them "overunity"...

what you see in the scope is just voltage spikes, that till now can only be used to charge batterys, because thins kind of energy will only show is results on a charging battery, and you cannot circulate the output to the input to make a self runner, neither power some kind of load that needs current, because the bedini output is only "potential voltage", the called radiant energy, but you will learn that in your journey, since thats the path you choosed.

with a bedini, even if you calculate consumption on a drive battery, and also calculate the charge on the charged battery its very difficult to achive 100% input vs 100& output.

is just a very efficient way of driving a motor, since you are discharging a battery and charging another while turning the wheel! and using the "free energy" that in other way will be lost, you can also take this spike from a standard electric motor that you can buy in a store with a few modifications.



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Old 07-05-2010, 01:30 AM
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Please help me understand how this is not over unity..

YouTube - Bedini School Girl Project OverUnity Solid State Free Energy
yeah but the only problem with the bedini was that with 1 battery u can charge 3 batteries but they also discharge really fast so in fact there was no OU at the end of the day u still lose some energy.

I personally believe that there will never be a OU device. Because of the law (thermo dinamic law). But I believe that there can be a device that can get some energy from out space or some energy that is around us. But so far no one as got it. I hope that ppl dont stop working and giving this info, i really hope one day they will find it.
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Old 07-05-2010, 05:15 PM
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I'm new to this forum too. I suspect that the forum is infested with trolls. Its probably going to be like putting together a puzzel as we figure out what is true and what is not true.
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Old 07-05-2010, 10:29 PM
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Their are times when I question overunity-zeropoint energy and the claims of free energy. My only response is why is their suppression of information and reported deaths of inventers?
You may want to do a search for -Crystal Ion air tubine engine- and-Testatatike Machine.Open source information may be the only answer
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Old 07-06-2010, 01:50 AM
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Because of the law (thermo dinamic law).
Every "law" in physics in nothing but an observation. Laws of thermodynamics have been violated multiple times.

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But I believe that there can be a device that can get some energy from out space or some energy that is around us. But so far no one as got it. I hope that ppl dont stop working and giving this info, i really hope one day they will find it.
Wrong again. As an example, Dr. Stiffler has shown CEC>1 many times.

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Every "law" in physics in nothing but an observation. Laws of thermodynamics have been violated multiple times.



Wrong again. As an example, Dr. Stiffler has shown CEC>1 many times.

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prove it

Link or it didn't happen

the only person so far i have hear is the guy from MIT with the "photosynthesis" but even that is not OU. But of course that it huge find that will solve for sure the problem of energy. All the energy that exist has already been giving u cant create energy u just can transform it.
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Old 07-06-2010, 07:04 PM
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yeap... look at the atom, ATOM | Watch Free Documentary Online

all the atoms are "free energy" based... energy is endless in the universe!

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If energy can't be created or destroyed, then how did all this energy come into being in the first place? The laws of conservation are not really laws, only a theory, which has been violated many times already. These laws can't always hold true. There are many such OU machines out there, but you will have to search for them, to find them.Good Luck. Stealth
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Old 07-06-2010, 07:10 PM
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prove it

Link or it didn't happen

the only person so far i have hear is the guy from MIT with the "photosynthesis" but even that is not OU. But of course that it huge find that will solve for sure the problem of energy. All the energy that exist has already been giving u cant create energy u just can transform it.
You need to cool it. You can search and replicate for yourself, but don't come in here and call people liars because they don't give you the attention you think you deserve.

Search for the Tesla switch. I have on many occasions shown to get 8 times more work out of the existing power in the batteries and it is very simple to build. I am now getting further than I ever have before but I am still keeping everything under wraps until i hit my milestone.
I also have a very Simple little motor that can show overunity if built correctly and used on conditioned batteries, its in my signature.

Again don't be so confrontational and call us who actually spend money and build items to see liars, unless you yourself have proven numerous efforts in that direction.

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Old 07-06-2010, 08:45 PM
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prove it

Link or it didn't happen

the only person so far i have hear is the guy from MIT with the "photosynthesis" but even that is not OU. But of course that it huge find that will solve for sure the problem of energy. All the energy that exist has already been giving u cant create energy u just can transform it.
Hey I used to play this game when I was little. We'd all be riding our skateboards, trying out new tricks and stuff. We called the game "didnt see it, didnt do it." Sounds just like your game.

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Old 07-06-2010, 08:52 PM
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I find it odd that many of the first replies to my thread are people who have not achieved OU. Im not sure what they are trying to accomplish but I hope a moderator can delete there worthless comments so we can have this thread give out the intended information....Please, only the experts who are knowledge and know OU is achievable reply in this thread.

So, we still need some instructions or a thread explaining how to build a energizer that can power a house or a car. Or maybe some instructions on how much mass the flywheel needs to contain and how many coils...

Matthew, can you explain what your milestone is and post instructions on how to achieve higher OU? Im sure many people who achieve OU want to scale up the version and patent it and become rich and da da da...but its my belief that anyone who tries this will either end up dead or selling out....how about we all share our instructions so we can make this a grass roots effort and ban money all together..

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So, we still need some instructions or a thread explaining how to build a energizer that can power a house or a car. Or maybe some instructions on how much mass the flywheel needs to contain and how many coils...

Matthew, can you explain what your milestone is and post instructions on how to achieve higher OU? Im sure many people who achieve OU want to scale up the version and patent it and become rich and da da da...but its my belief that anyone who tries this will either end up dead or selling out....how about we all share our instructions so we can make this a grass roots effort and ban money all together..
Look you have to understand alot of us have seen OU, and been belittled on regular basis. This our place to share our work, and we spend alot of time trying to get past problems. When people like this eclipz come in and immediately belittle our effort we have to defend ourselves. Ask anybody who spends money and time to research, they'll tell you the same. So will the admins, so don't go calling on them to remove anything.

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Its 1kw system. It outputs 1 kw while maintaining a charge in the battery or having the ability to recharge under its own power.

The basic outline of the circiut can be found in my signature ISCC Tesla Switch

To make it do real work you need real power. Deep cycles, quality mechanical or solid state relays, good IC circuits. The goal is to use off the shelf components that anybody get there hands on and replicate. This is build number 22. I have about 2700 dollars tide up in it not counting the money I spent on previous versions. I have esitmated several sizes of systems and they can be completely built for around $2.00 a watt.

Here is the thread that discusses all kinds of Tesla Switch Tech.

And I'll share my work when I am confident it is what I say it is. Until then you can get started on your own. If you need help ask.

The Tesla switch can do what you want but to date there is no exact blueprint for a large scale system. No one is going to hand you anything significant unless first you are ready to do the research.

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Old 07-06-2010, 10:41 PM
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Look you have to understand alot of us have seen OU, and been belittled on regular basis. This our place to share our work, and we spend alot of time trying to get past problems. When people like this eclipz come in and immediately belittle our effort we have to defend ourselves. Ask anybody who spends money and time to research, they'll tell you the same. So will the admins, so don't go calling on them to remove anything.



Its 1kw system. It outputs 1 kw while maintaining a charge in the battery or having the ability to recharge under its own power.

The basic outline of the circiut can be found in my signature ISCC Tesla Switch

To make it do real work you need real power. Deep cycles, quality mechanical or solid state relays, good IC circuits. The goal is to use off the shelf components that anybody get there hands on and replicate. This is build number 22. I have about 2700 dollars tide up in it not counting the money I spent on previous versions. I have esitmated several sizes of systems and they can be completely built for around $2.00 a watt.

Here is the thread that discusses all kinds of Tesla Switch Tech.

And I'll share my work when I am confident it is what I say it is. Until then you can get started on your own. If you need help ask.

The Tesla switch can do what you want but to date there is no exact blueprint for a large scale system. No one is going to hand you anything significant unless first you are ready to do the research.

Good Luck
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Ok, thanks for the info! Im actually working on my test model, I got some people interested in investment once I achieve OU...

Are you aware that Mass = Energy is important? The more heavier(mass) on the rotor the more power you can capture...not sure if you know that or not...So it seems to me, that in order to gain kw+ all you need is more and more mass, and you can have that mass in a confined area so you can conserve space....I think I just answered a couple of my own questions there.

I have this picture in my head, lets all imagine this...

You line up at a stoplight, to the right of you is a guy, a muscle builder Mr. macho in a super-charged Ferrari. You look at him and stare him down, declaring you want to race..He charges up his combustion engine VROOM VROOM to show you how powerful is combustion engine is...the light turns green, ZZZZzzzz ZZzzz..BOOM, your gone and he is wondering how your ford escort with a stock engine 4 cylinder just went 0-60 in 4 seconds... it wasnt a 4 cylinder at all! haha, aaaah man thats hilarius. The future looks good!

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Old 07-06-2010, 11:18 PM
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Ok, thanks for the info! Im actually working on my test model, I got some people interested in investment once I achieve OU...

Are you aware that Mass = Energy is important? The more heavier(mass) on the rotor the more power you can capture...not sure if you know that or not...

dont agree with that...

the more heavier is the rotor, more energy it will need to achieve higher rpm... more out, but more in also...

imagine this case, you put 3V in a system, you have a small rotor with small magnets, the rpm will be very high... but if you put big magnets in that rotor, it will be more heavy, and at the same input it will be much more slower rpm.

So because the magnets are stronger you should have more output, but because it is turning at slower rpms the energy will be almost the same!

how do you plan to achieve OU? because you will have uncle lenz when using generator coils that will slow down your rotor!

good luck with your project

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can you point out a working OU tesla switch that can charge his own battery and power a load?

i dont have idea how r you planning to extract 1KW, you would need a big bank of battery's, and make it work to extract that amount of extra juice!

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Its 1kw system. It outputs 1 kw while maintaining a charge in the battery or having the ability to recharge under its own power.

The Tesla switch can do what you want but to date there is no exact blueprint for a large scale system. No one is going to hand you anything significant unless first you are ready to do the research.

Good Luck
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can you point out a working OU tesla switch that can charge his own battery and power a load?

i dont have idea how r you planning to extract 1KW, you would need a big bank of battery's, and make it work to extract that amount of extra juice!
Yes that's right TanTric, you don't have any idea how Matt will do it, because you haven't followed his progress, nor built his design, you probably aren't even aware of how the Tesla switch works.

@ Adam.

Flywheel is basically a mechanical battery. It takes some input to get it moving and you can use it to your advantage, but it does NOT equal torque. And mass does Not equal energy...

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Get a Capstone microturbine power generator.
They are far cheaper than power from the grid and run on multifuels.
It is available and highly reliable and not tricky to rig up.
I plan on doing so myself when the money becomes available.
It is possible to set up vehicles to run this way as well and realize over 75 MPG and you don't have to plug in as you have an onboard generator.

Once the OU things are demonstrated then we can make the switch to that, but that hasn't happened in any practical way that a layman can grasp just yet.

(Big respect to all those here who are diligently laboring away to change that)
I need one that will power my wet-saw......build me a generator that will do that and I will build you a stone fireplace or a jacuzzi or something
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Yes that's right TanTric, you don't have any idea how Matt will do it, because you haven't followed his progress, nor built his design, you probably aren't even aware of how the Tesla switch works.

@ Adam.

Flywheel is basically a mechanical battery. It takes some input to get it moving and you can use it to your advantage, but it does NOT equal torque. And mass does Not equal energy...

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Ren, E=mc2.

Maybe you guys can help me understand this, on BEDINI'S FREE ENERGY GENERATOR it says "During this time a constant load of 12kw could be withdrawn from the device"

IM not sure if im not interpreting this right or not, but according to my understanding, an average house uses 1.8kw-h, and this device can create 12kw's "constantly" not per hour. Is anyone else seeing what im seeing or am I wrong? So this machine can produce enough power for an entire home in 1 second......???
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can you point out a working OU tesla switch that can charge his own battery and power a load?
i dont have idea how r you planning to extract 1KW, you would need a big bank of battery's, and make it work to extract that amount of extra juice!
Rens right go read a bit. I can show you one that will delivers 1.2 kw out via a motor of a battery system with only 200 amp hours available, and will deliver this energy 14 times longer (and running still, in the garage right now) than it would if you used the batteries conventional.
Back charging seems to be a trick at this point, but don't doubt i'll do what I tell ya. Its a matter finding the right components that last and run without knocking the potential down to much. I have alot left to try.
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Ren, E=mc2.

Maybe you guys can help me understand this, on BEDINI'S FREE ENERGY GENERATOR it says "During this time a constant load of 12kw could be withdrawn from the device"

IM not sure if im not interpreting this right or not, but according to my understanding, an average house uses 1.8kw-h, and this device can create 12kw's "constantly" not per hour. Is anyone else seeing what im seeing or am I wrong? So this machine can produce enough power for an entire home in 1 second......???
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Some people think E = mc2 is not accurate. I believe Ren feel that way.
The watson Generator produce 12 kwh per hour. The average home uses 1.8 so it could power 6.5 homes if tapped correctly.
They often do not add the time factor in the description.
I have solar system that is 8.55 kw. It is understood that that is at 100 percent output per hour.


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Well, first off, you said E=M. If you choose to believe the great white lie that is your choice. Eric Dollard, one of the most respected researchers alive will tell you E does not equal mc2. Even Einstein is quoted as saying there is no energy in mass.

So like I said, you chose what you want to believe.

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Rens right go read a bit. I can show you one that will delivers 1.2 kw out via a motor of a battery system with only 200 amp hours available, and will deliver this energy 14 times longer (and running still, in the garage right now) than it would if you used the batteries conventional.
Back charging seems to be a trick at this point, but don't doubt i'll do what I tell ya. Its a matter finding the right components that last and run without knocking the potential down to much. I have alot left to try.


Some people think E = mc2 is not accurate. I believe Ren feel that way.
The watson Generator produce 12 kwh per hour. The average home uses 1.8 so it could power 6.5 homes if tapped correctly.
They often do not add the time factor in the description.
I have solar system that is 8.55 kw. It is understood that that is at 100 percent output per hour.


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Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up Matt. Im sure I sound like an idiot but in my opinion learning tesla's and bedinis work with no education on electronics provides an "out of the box" thinking process and I understand most of what is going on, or at least I think i do. Its my belief that the more mass the rotor has the stronger the vacuum thus the more energy that can be tapped. I feel as though the power companies and other conventional standards are put in place to confuse people and to put them in a thinking "box"(brainwashing) so they cant understand whats truly going on so they can have their monopoly.

I will take what you said under consideration Ren and do some research, I believe there is still some missing information but Im definitely open-minded and will look into what you said.

If you guys take a look at the picture here, New Page 1 it implies that energy is being created through mass.

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Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up Matt. Im sure I sound like an idiot but in my opinion learning tesla's and bedinis work with no education on electronics provides an "out of the box" thinking process and I understand most of what is going on, or at least I think i do. Its my belief that the more mass the rotor has the stronger the vacuum thus the more energy that can be tapped. I feel as though the power companies and other conventional standards are put in place to confuse people and to put them in a thinking "box"(brainwashing) so they cant understand whats truly going on so they can have their monopoly.

I will take what you said under consideration Ren and do some research, I believe there is still some missing information but Im definitely open-minded and will look into what you said.

If you guys take a look at the picture here, New Page 1 it implies that energy is being created through mass.
I understand I used to be there...

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the Tesla Switch frequency rate ...

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Rens right go read a bit. I can show you one that will delivers 1.2 kw out via a motor of a battery system with only 200 amp hours available, and will deliver this energy 14 times longer (and running still, in the garage right now) than it would if you used the batteries conventional.
Back charging seems to be a trick at this point, but don't doubt i'll do what I tell ya. Its a matter finding the right components that last and run without knocking the potential down to much. I have alot left to try.

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Hi Matt,

I think I have asked this from you before, but I am serious at what frequency rate you get 14 times running power? I built my first Tesla switch, and I was able to power a 6W lamp for more than 10 hours, by using only four 12v1.3Ah, I was using 6seconds for the period. It was a bit more than the batteries' capability, but far off from 14 percent.

I am now in the process of soldering a relay based six battery Tesla Switch, for my electric bike the batteries are 6x18V2200mA.
I need some recommendations from those expert with the Tesla Switch.

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With the batteries I got now I am running a minute each way. But with little batteries its harder to go longer. You gotta switch fast like 10 hertz or so. And depending on the motor you can burn up some energy.

But if your battery are not taking to the proccess you can have problem to.
Get a good charger for them and charge them while they are switching. Then discharge them while switching. Take note on how long it running down and see it if it improves.

I did a 9v battery one once but it didn't work for long time at all so smaller batteries may be hard to handle.

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i dont mean to atack no one, i was just questioning, i made a simple question to matthew, and i think he haves fingers to write his own reply's/answers, so please dont try to put fire were it isnt!

the fact that im not aware its why i ask, if i can not make that please say and then i will stop with it ok?

im just searching information/knowlodge...

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Yes that's right TanTric, you don't have any idea how Matt will do it, because you haven't followed his progress, nor built his design, you probably aren't even aware of how the Tesla switch works.
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so you can run a 1.2KW motor (110Vx10.9A) for lets say (example) 14Hours with the tesla switch, when that same motor if only connected directly to the batterys will suck them in 1 Hour? how many batterys do you have there?

you have some video of it? i would like to see it, if you dont mind! thank you

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Rens right go read a bit. I can show you one that will delivers 1.2 kw out via a motor of a battery system with only 200 amp hours available, and will deliver this energy 14 times longer (and running still, in the garage right now) than it would if you used the batteries conventional.

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