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Old 06-27-2010, 04:47 PM
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Arrow Kapagen Theories, Replications, Winding Diagrams, Circuits & Schematics. KAPAGEN ONLY

110/120VAC AND/OR 220/240VAC KAPAGEN SYSTEMS ONLY

Respect to J. L. Naudin!



to you J. L. Naudin and TomB-455 for giving everybody the information!

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There are the energy inventors Donald L. Smith, Tariel Kapanadze, and the experimenter/replicator SR193, who have given us much, but not everything. They give some, but they also withhold much, much more. Then there are the experimenters J. L. Naudin and TomB-455 who just show us exactly how to do what they do, and for that, we are grateful to them.


DISCLAIMER: WARNING! HIGH VOLTAGE. LETHAL DANGER FROM ELECTRIC SHOCK. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REPLICATE. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. INFORMATION PROVIDED ONLY FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. THESE VOLTAGES AND CURRENTS CAN KILL YOU!

In starting this new thread, I must ask that you limit discussion only to the Kapagen device and Kapagen replications, to Kapagen building instructions, to Kapagen theories of operation, and the like.

If you want to discuss low voltage input Kapagen devices, go to this thread: Kapagen Systems - 12v Input Only

If you want to discuss other non-Kapagen devices, please go to this thread:
my smith kanapadz replication

What is a Kapagen? I believe the term was coined by J. L. Naudin. A Kapagen is a working over-energy device which is easily replicable. It has already been replicated by several experimenters.

However, the voltages and currents involved are highly lethal. If you don't know what you're doing, stay away. This is no place for novices. If you touch the wrong thing, you can easily die from an electric shock.



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We need more detailed information, including videos, on how to build the Kapagen device, for example:







D.I.Y. Kapagen
Test of the New V3 Kapagen

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If you are not familiar with it, this thread has basically all the information and replication instructions that you are looking for :
Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

It also discusses measurement accuracy problems (due to HF interference) and takes a critical look at the fact that this (just as it is now) is always called an "over-energy" device without comparing the input vs. the output as subjective lamp brightness evaluations can be very deceiving and unscientific.
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If you are not familiar with it, this thread has basically all the information and replication instructions that you are looking for : Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
Thanks, Xenomorph. That's at Overunity.com. I have been to that thread. There are very many non-Kapagen posts there. For everybody else who hasn't been there, be forewarned that all of the videos on that page start up all at once, which I thought was a little annoying, so I suggest you start at the most current page at the time of this writing. Also, I might add that there are several annoying JavaScript pop-ups and Google Ads which look like posts at that site, so I would suggest staying on site here and visiting this thread: my smith kanapadz replication.

However, if you are searching for an exclusively Kapagen thread at Overunity.com, I suggest you visit Kapagen Only : Theories, Replications, Winding Diagrams, Circuits & Schematics, but whether you post on this thread or that one, please keep the content of your posts limited the subject of the Kapagen.

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It also discusses measurement accuracy problems (due to HF interference) and takes a critical look at the fact that this (just as it is now) is always called an "over-energy" device without comparing the input vs. the output as subjective lamp brightness evaluations can be very deceiving and unscientific.
If I you can input a value in power and then output what appears to be a large multiple of the input value in terms of light radiated, then does it makes any difference whether the device is OU or not?

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In most of the replications I've looked at there is a coil of approximately 30 turns wound CCW and on top of the CW wound 90-100 turns coil. Although the actual picture of the coil assembly looks like this coil is present, it's not represented on the schematic diagram. Is it being used? If so, how is it to be connected since it's not shown?

In most of the winding diagrams it looks like it would be connected to the wire from the spark gap and is already connected at the other end to the 90-100 turns coil so I may just be over-thinking this but being the voltages/currents being worked with are so high, I'd like to make sure rather than assume.

Lastly, has anyone tried this with heating circuit resistances? If this could be used in that capacity, I can foresee a much lower heating bill this next winter providing it could be incorporated safely and reliably.
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Yes i think this idea very good, to focus exclusively to the kapagen as JLnaudin replicated.

The advantage is that Jlnaudin propose very impressive results and he gives all the needed shematic with components to replicate,

I personnaly began with the Romeruk winding and some feeling and than i decided to remain as close as possible to Jln design.

So i did it and the result is not fantastic SO LONG YOU DO NOT USE A VARIAC.

Because as Ossie Callanan noticed , at the beginning of the operation the current draw is high and your results will only be about 95 to 97 percent.

But if you consider that a MOT WITHOUT LOAD consume about 2 A.
it is evident that you will have to go down with the voltage and A to get the JLN result.
And i was very happy that the last replicator at JLN site (under the name of Tom b455) seems to have a fantastic result with a variac and kapagen (about 150 watt to light 10x 150 watt halogen .

So i am in the starting block and wait for my VARIAC to confirm that possibility.

So my proposal to all of you , copy exactly the JLN shema so we have all the same working plattform. And so we will surely get succes
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If I you can input a value in power and then output what appears to be a large multiple of the input value in terms of light radiated, then does it makes any difference whether the device is OU or not?
Well, it only appears to be more power. The lamps are not fully lit and the brightness is a non-linear function.
And if it is not OU, i can also light my room directly off the wall socket rather than just transforming the electricity around in a MOT and lighting bulbs to a fraction of the brightness that they would have being off the wall socket

Until someone pulls in a measurement expert with specialized equipment the OU aspect of the device is speculation. I really hope someone does soon, so we all know what is going on.
I can light many CFLs with a few watts off a Slayer Exciter, this could also make me believe that there is OU in it.

The good thing is there is probably about 40-50 guys having built this thing and maybe at least one of them might know how to accurately measure the output.
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Watch the two videos in my first post by TomB455. He tells you exactly how to build the Output Coil.

I will come back later to this post and place captions under the images.

Everybody could use lower heating bills in the winter.

See my next post for schematic and CW and CCW diagrams.

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Well, it only appears to be more power.
As I said before, if I you can input a value in power and then output what appears to be a large multiple of the input value in terms of light radiated, then does it makes any difference whether the device is OU or not?



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The lamps are not fully lit
These lamps appear to be fully lit. You could use them to light your backyard, or maybe you could connect a radiant heater instead of lamps and keep warm in winter while saving money on your electricity bill.

TomB455 states:

Input: about 180 Watts
Output: about 1,500 Watts

See TomB455's YT Video if you don't believe me. I just report what I see.

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I was talking about Naudinīs lamps.
TomB455 uses reflector lamp cases that increase the impression of brightness.

A simple luxmeter measurement comparison test series as suggested on overunity would wipe away all doubt or someone closing the loop. For some reason no-one is doing it.

Donīt get me wrong this could be OU, it looks promising, but it needs measurements. Thatīs the scientific method.
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Yes i think this idea very good, to focus exclusively to the kapagen as JLnaudin replicated.
I would like to point out that there are several versions of the Kapagen out there.

Also, I would like to note that J. L. Naudin leaves out a winding in his schematic, pictured above. The output coil should have three different windings, according to my research.

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I would like to point out that there are several versions of the Kapagen out there.

Also, I would like to note that J. L. Naudin leaves out a winding in his schematic, pictured above. The output coil should have three different windings, according to my research.

That might be because he considers it unneeded, reference is here :
Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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I was talking about Naudinīs lamps.
Thanks for that qualification. I thought you were referring to all Kapagen devices in general.

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TomB455 uses reflector lamp cases that increase the impression of brightness.
If Naudin's lamps were placed in reflectors, would they not appear as bright as these pictured above?

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A simple luxmeter measurement comparison test series as suggested on overunity would wipe away all doubt or someone closing the loop.
Spectulative at best. You're making a supposition that the luxmeter would support your view without actually providing the evidence.

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For some reason no-one is doing it.
No surprise there. Why would someone attempt to prove untrue something that is obviously true unless there was hidden agenda for doing so?

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it needs measurements.
Then let the scientists in academia who don't care about guarding their reputations do the measuring.

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The scientific method is a method of inquiry based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning.

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That might be because he considers it unneeded, reference is here :
Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
I see that in his YT video, he is using three windings in his output coil: KAPAGEN v3.2 with 2x150 W halogen lamps and 2x60 W light bulbs

I see no change is his operational design that he is testing in the field. He just needs to update his schematic.

There is a reason for a reversing coil. See Donald L. Smith's explanation for it in his work, entitled, Resonance Energy Methods under the page heading Tesla Coil Geometry, PDF page 40/119.

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Check out this out. Kapagen v3.3 by Jean-Louis Naudin

According to bluelightning on YT, the spark gap has been finely tuned. A plasma cloud is created in the gap between the two spark gap points. There is no audible sound from the spark gap. There are no sparks. The input electrical power required is 153 Watts to power fourteen 150 Watt light bulbs. Light output from the bulbs is very bright in a shaded area on a bright, sunny day.

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Spectulative at best. You're making a supposition that the luxmeter would support your view without actually providing the evidence.
Man itīs not about my view. This is science.
Okay you want evidence, that the assumption that just because a lamp is rated at 150 watt that it will also use the full 150 Watt of power when wired in series is not always true :

I quote here a post by Barotoulogos from ou.com

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Who said Naudin got OU? He do not even says so. He just is excited about the course of his experiments with ground usage and will struve towards this direction.
GOOD. After all neither RomeroOK claimed OU. Only Dragon has claimed extra-ordinary results in several setups including grounding or not.
Actually some started saying their bulbs were fully lit, then the discounts begun.
80% lit, 60% lit, half lit etc.
Just try an objective measurment method instead of estimating wrong. That's the reason i made the youtube vids. To show a fully lit bulb from a lit bulb can differ hugely in wattage.

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Once for all, just to solve this issue, i suggest those with a ready made light bulb bank and a variac to bring the from mains (wired in parallel) to similar luminosity as per device and then will gain an idea how much output they get. (lux meter is a plus here)

Am i a pessimist?
GET REAL. Experimentation is about reality and not wishful thinking. Following a methodology, no matter how much primitive it is, it adds value.
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i have make a draft setup of two light bulbs 75watts of nominal power being connected to 230v mains and video them. A first video shows one lamp alone working at 67watts and a second video shows both lamps working at 44watts.

Clearly in the second case each lamps works at 1/3 of the first case. Easily by mistaking brightness estimation and power usage anyone could be lead to think wrong


I try to play Devil's advocate here, so as to be 100% sure than our experimenters have produced something real and not BS-ing each other.
Video evidence:

YouTube - one bulb 67 watts.MPG

YouTube - two bulbs 44 watts total.MPG

Aether22 writes:

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it is very easy to measure true output power. Only Luxmeter for measurement of light strength is necessary. Luxmeter is possible to buy from e-bay etc. for 50$. Just cover one lamp by cardboard box, on the top make hole for luxmeter. Measure how many Lux you have from Kapagen. Then Kapagen switch of, ant connect to the lamp variac, and adjust voltage by variac to the same brightness of lamp. Measure voltage and current 50Hz on lamp.
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If we want to use light bulbs as a way of determining power as is so commonly done in many experiments may I suggest a relatively cheap digital light (lumen) meter. These are only about $18 including shipping.
It is known that for the human eye to see a difference in light output that you need nearly double the lumens to notice a difference. And if the comparison is not side by side then you have your memory of the brightness to throw into the mix also. This type of light meter could go a long way in standardizing such evaluations. It is common to measure at a distance of 1 meter. If you are outside though such measurements would need to be done after dark to avoid having the Sun throw off readings.
Science is also about being critical. A scientific theory must hold against experiments, if it doesnīt it has no value.

All i am saying that it would be very appreciable that some proper output measurements are being considered. No offence or bad vibes against the Kapagen, not to be misunderstood
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A simple luxmeter measurement comparison test series as suggested on overunity would wipe away all doubt or someone closing the loop.
I stand my ground. Spectulative at best. You're making a supposition that the luxmeter would support your view without actually providing the evidence.

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Already happened (previous post), Aether22 describes how the measurement results can be achieved and then numerically compared. This would present a measurement-based output power estimation before someone is able to shield his measuring devices sufficiently to measure the output directly without interference by the RF.
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To me, science is the search for truth through a systematic enterprise of gathering knowledge about the world and organizing and condensing that knowledge into testable laws and theories.

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Can we get past the semantics and back to the topic? Those who replicate that wish to measure lux, watts, etc, can do so if and when they choose. The information in this thread doesn't need to devolve into "Uh huh", "Uh uh".
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I have tried to replicate your coil and it works!

most of the setup is the same as yours, m.o.t. 800 watt, in dc mode. 10x150 wats halo-bulbs fully bright!!
i checkt my variac (but didn't put it on camera) and it was at 165 volts!!!
exept for the 23ccw turns on the entrance of the coil, those whre nessecery to reduce the input current.
the pictures are folowing soon. i did make a video though..

best regards,

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I used for this setup; (V2)
M.O.T. 800 watt (D.C. setup),
10x150W halogen lamps(1500watt total) in series.
Variac 1,5kva.
Coil setup= prim.-88t(cw)+ 23t (ccw) , sec 7t(ccw).

The lamps are burning at 165 volts by 1.28 amps input on the 'kapagen' , these figures fluctuating in diffrence of +/- 5%
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to you J. L. Naudin and TomB-455 for giving everybody the information!

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There are the energy inventors Donald L. Smith, Tariel Kapanadze, and the experimenter/replicator SR193, who have given us much, but not everything. They give some, but they also withhold much, much more. Then there are the experimenters J. L. Naudin and TomB-455 who just show us exactly how to do what they do, and for that, we are grateful to them.
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Can we get past the semantics and back to the topic? Those who replicate that wish to measure lux, watts, etc, can do so if and when they choose. The information in this thread doesn't need to devolve into "Uh huh", "Uh uh".
I agree with you. I started this thread with the intent of advancing my knowledge and understanding in this field, providing assistance to those interested in Kapagen, not for figuring out ways on how to refute it.

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Xenomorph has a point guys, although in my personal opinion our measurement tools we have today will only do so much.

But SOME measurements and comparisons must be conducted to validate your results. Measuring input power BEFORE the variac is important, or better still, use a large DC battery to power an inverter which in turn feeds the variac. Measurements in DC are generally more straight forward than AC.

As it has been stated before, resistive loads such as lamps are nonlinear and placing them all in series will also effect this too.

In so saying, I place considerable value on what it accomplishes, not solely on what maths says is going on. Math can be wrong or biased, but results tend to speak for themselves.

Some way of comparing your light output must be established, and it MUST stand up against the same lamp driven at its standard rating. Comparisons made against the same lamp running off the wall is a good start. If one light powered from the wall outlet illuminates a certain space to a certain degree then that would be used as your control group, and compared to an identical light driven off the Kapagen. If they are very similar then the design is indeed providing results and has merit in my book, regardless of what current and voltage is "measured." A quick and dirty test would be to see if the same amount of light could be obtained by driving the same load (series connected lights) directly off the wall at the same input power/amperage closed loop. If it cant, then there IS something going on in your device, yeah?

Ive noticed that alot of these videos are done in the day time, which makes it difficult to determine just how bright the light is, and lets face it, its no use running it in the middle of the day if you are just powering lights

Set it up in the dark, focus your camera away from the lights and show us how well it lights up a given space.

This is perhaps the most important step in validating the technology. You have to convince others (since you have already convinced yourself despite what others have to say) that it REALLY is more efficient than the standard AC wall outlet. Part of this step is trying to prove yourself wrong, by testing your results against the benchmark and making comparisons as best you can.

I hope you can see the importance of being unbiased and as scientific as possible in your replications.

Good luck.

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As i said before, let's replicate first and we will argue the details after.

I my kapagen (exact replication from JLN) i have made a lamp bank of 10 incandescent 100 watts bulbs in serie, which are connected directly to the kapagen. If you notice in the middle of the bank there is another similar bulb, but this one is directly connected to the grid, and is of course fully lit without any discussion.

So i can compare very easily and accurately enough, if the bank is so lit as the independant bulb. Easy!

I think with JLN info plus all the upper info , everybody can replicate. The only expensive piece is the variac. All the rest is very cheap and easy to do.Simply be very carefull with the HV.

Perhaps somebody can propose here a shematic to avoid the variac ?

So lets go

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No one here has claimed that measurement is not an important part of experimentation.

However, a luxmeter can only take you so far. Comparing the intensity of visible light emitted from a CFL in terms of power as compared to a incandescent lamp is biased since an incandescent emits much more heat than a CFL which is not taken into account.

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Top view of his TomB-455's device: Mounted on a Board is the Power Supply, MOT, Cap, Spark Gap on other side of vertical panel, and Output Transformer.


MOT, model #MDT-851EMR, 230v, 50Hz.
Start primary from left going to right.


Primary coil: 85 turns clockwise.


After 85 turns clockwise, stop.


Reverse coil direction by winding new winding counterclockwise and wind on top of the existing winding and go in the opposite direction 24 turns.


After 24 turns counterclockwise, stop.


Now put four spacer equidistant around the circumference of primary coil portion of the coil but not over the 24 turns counterclockwise.


The secondary winding is made of seven turns counterclockwise of insulated copper tubing, 6.5 mm in diameter.


Connect the secondary coil to the initial primary winding wire.


The output coil is installed onto the mounting board. Notice another output coil in the background.


Unit in operation. Notice that the spark gap is ignited.


Ten halogen lamps in reflectors at full brightness.

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Output: about 1,500 Watts
TomB455 tells you exactly how to build the Output Coil.

How to Build Output Coil Video

The TomB455 Kapagen Version in Operation

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In the Kapagen v3.3, the spark gap has been finely tuned, a plasma cloud is created between the gap, there is no audible sound from the sparks. The input power has significantly dropped to about 153 W while the 14x150 W light bulbs connected at the ouput are very bright in spite of the surrounding sun light... The Kapagen is an attempt of replication of the Tariel Kapanadze generator.

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Output: 2,100 Watts

Not bad at all.

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Arrow Kapagen : This is science.

No one likes having the rallying cry "This is science." thrown at them or to be used against them. It's a cop out. No one has the right to tell another what science is when the phrase is being used as a rallying cry. No one here is denying the importance of being unbiased and/or being scientific in whatever endeavor we choose to undertake either individually or collectively.

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Arrow Kapagen : Misquoted

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Okay you want evidence, that the assumption that just because a lamp is rated at 150 watt that it will also use the full 150 Watt of power when wired in series is not always true:
DENIED. I resent the inference. You're attempting to put your words into my mouth. Those are your words. I never made the above statement that you are editorializing on.

I said in response to your statement of "A simple luxmeter measurement comparison test series as suggested on overunity would wipe away all doubt or someone closing the loop." that, and I quote myself here,

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Spectulative at best. You're making a supposition that the luxmeter would support your view without actually providing the evidence.
Now a word about evidence:

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Evidence: Quoting an authority is not evidence. Quoting a majority opinion is not evidence. Any argument that starts with, "According to Einstein..." is not based on objective evidence. Any argument that starts with, "Most biologists believe..." is not based on objective evidence. Saying, "The Bible says..." is not evidence. Authorities and majorities can be wrong and frequently have been.
Then you proceed to quote the following members: Barotoulogos, Aether22, and E2Matrix. I have nothing against these members or what they say, but you quoting their opinions is not presenting evidence.

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