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Old 07-09-2010, 04:11 PM
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I was looking on your video... Light on that bulb is very far... Only one thing can get better that setup, putting a good big cap on the battery.

But is out of sense the amp meter DC is clear, this gadget need energy to work.

The schematic described electrically by me in my past post is the Famous Donald Smith in the PDF ebook I've found the same photos, so this system extraction energy has his side hidden. Many inventions (99%) here replicated in the forum doesn't works in overunity terms. But the original inventor seems create overunity easily is strange or scammer? I don't know.

Donald Smith, Kapanadze, Kapagen (96% recovery is VERY GOOD) and many others show OU or very good results but our replications with many improvements over the original are trash. WHY?

My conclusion can be our geographical postition, please download the ebook about Donald Smith theory and look the page 53. There speaks clearly about the geographical position this idea is explained by others scientist, historist in the past and nowdays, Nassim Haramein, David Icke etc. Explains in some points on our earth planet a big source energy can be accessed.

If we look Bearden's theory only explains Vaccum energy and supposely can be accessed anywhere, anytime but HOW?. His Naudin's MEG replication seem works welll maybe nanocrystalline core is needed to get easily e=mc2.
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good you talk about geographic position!

this is something interesting because in my TC the consumption and power output will be different if it is in horizontal or vertical positions!

interesting stuff!

you r right about the spark gap and also the coil should be resized to this smaller scale, im using comon ground and i can see some more power when the coil is connected to ground, but somehow the SG mess with the coil, because is not matching the impedeance, voltage needed, etc

one doubt, when you do half rectify to dc, the amperage should drop in half also as voltage?

i measured the voltage across the lamp and it can reach near 200VAC in the short pulses, 200V x 0.1A = 20W (my ampmeter shows 50miliA in the peaks - half dc)

i dont know the power that the MOT alone needs to sustain in open circuit? but the inverter needs 12V x 0.4 = 4.8Watt

What is very strange is that when the inverter is charging energy to send the peak output, the meter is bouncing and it drops in short cycles to 320mA with MOT and Lamp load?

I noticed that the peak is near 1.3, 1.4Amps, but the values differ in accord with the components used, and can reach 2.1 Amps at most.

so based on the efficient setup, 0.4Amps goes to the inverter, and 12V X 1Amp = 12W goes to the load...

12W consumption VS 20W load (if my output calculations are right, maybe not?!) is something to investigate... someone have a 500W or 1000W inverter, we should measure this connected with just one ground and coil, without SG so there's not RF to mess with our meters!

dlbarre is right in someway... probably there's is nothing about the Kapagen, but maybe there is something about the MOT / High Voltages transformation, and the Coil, SG and ground if fine tunned can help!

im preparing my video on transformers, experimenting all kinds of toys, regular step up, one to one, my own made, some flybacks.. all with scope readings, lot of fun!

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good you talk about geographic position!

someone have a 500W or 1000W inverter, we should measure this connected with just one ground and coil, without SG so there's not RF to mess with our meters!

dlbarre is right in someway... probably there's is nothing about the Kapagen, but maybe there is something about the MOT / High Voltages transformation, and the Coil, SG and ground if fine tunned can help!
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I think there is SOMETHING about the Kapagen but we/I'm missing some tuning somewhere in the device. I'm going to start to look at the capacitance/resistance/inductance of my ground rods.

Second:
What do you want to test with an inverter?
12v battery -> inverter -> MOT -> then what else?

I have a 6amp inverter and a small 12v battery.
I don't think my 6amp inverter can run a MOT.
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yeap i also think there ca be something about the kapagen, i just sayd maybe not, because we dont know for shore!

how much power output is your 6amp inverter? that means it can output 220V x 6Amps? 1320W? if thats the case, i think it will handle, use your dimmer so you can know when you r pushing to much the inverter and low it!! dont forget you need a big amperage battery because it will need a lot of current juice from it!

i am conditioned to read peaks and they are not accurate, so if you dont mind, i suggest you should made readings of input, and output (amps and volts), in this conditions:

- INVERTER ALONE, /THEN INVERTER SUPPLYING THIS:

- MOT and COIL with common grounds
- MOT and COIL with separate grounds
- MOT, COIL, SG (In this case you cannot read output because of HVRF)
- MOT, COIL, SG with GROUND or GROUNDS
- MOT ALONE
- MOT WITH LAMPS LOAD
- MOT WITH GROUND OR GROUNDS LAMPS LOAD
- MOT WITH SG LAMPS LOAD (HVRF)
- MOT WITH SG AND GROUND OR GROUNDS LAMPS LOAD (HVRF)

lots of stuff, but this the only way tol let us compare and clear us what improves the circuit and what should need to be tunned! and what the magic tricks beyond this!

EDIT: I remebered, you can also read the input from the battery to inverter, and from inverter to MOT to calculate the real consumption of inverter alone when it is on load!

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good you talk about geographic position!

..., but somehow the SG mess with the coil, because is not matching the impedeance, voltage needed, etc


Half rectify normally create half current consumption because if the source is AC for example 10 hz, then you rectify half you got 5 hz on the output.

The Spark Gap reading theory about Ed Gray and others works for timing when the cap reach the potential necessary then automatically is discharged. But hey! is complicated the SG has and can show strange effect, X rays, Gamma etc. This can helpfull for system look the Naundin's SG is showing plasma zero sound and heat appearently, if you avoid the sound then you're saving energy sound BOOOM are joules wasting.

Theory involved on plasma is seen too on TH Moray system.

Normally cap is discharged throught SG on another inductance load, for example TC, Wall Transformer etc. What is the point?.

The point is that you control how much energy vs time put on the coil. Theorycally this give us the advantadge of exitate the coil without drain current (amperage) because current = heat. Then you create a big potential source (charge a HV capacitor) and is automatically discharged time controlled, when is discharged don't waste more energy. Another reason is described on my past post (charge a cap without entropy)....

Another effect is described on Ed Gray theory about OU effects when you discharge abruptaly a HV cap over a Coil Magnet. Gray motors used this discovery to create a extremely high torque motor with a very low energy usage. If the energy is created on the coil then is possible recapture it and used it like electrical energy again?

You're generating peaks on about 200VAC is good, if you have time to play with the gadget then you could replace the bulb and put a wall transformer 200VAC-12VAC. And rectify the output with a cap, so maybe you can attach a car bulb you can test with 1 watt bulb, 3w,5w,21w. This let you make a test without peaks so you multmeter can reads more accurate.


SG don't work when you connect the Ground?
If the spark gap doesn't work maybe one part of the energy produced on the MOT is going to the ground.
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how much power output is your 6amp inverter? that means it can output 220V x 6Amps? 1320W?

i am conditioned to read peaks and they are not accurate, so if you dont mind, i suggest you should made readings of input, and output (amps and volts), in this conditions:

- INVERTER ALONE, /THEN INVERTER SUPPLYING THIS:

- MOT and COIL with common grounds
- MOT and COIL with separate grounds
- MOT, COIL, SG (In this case you cannot read output because of HVRF)
- MOT, COIL, SG with GROUND or GROUNDS
- MOT ALONE
- MOT WITH LAMPS LOAD
- MOT WITH GROUND OR GROUNDS LAMPS LOAD
- MOT WITH SG LAMPS LOAD (HVRF)
- MOT WITH SG AND GROUND OR GROUNDS LAMPS LOAD (HVRF)

6 amps x 120volts = 720watts... too small.

I'll continue to test with MAINS input, using FWBR & analog meters and placing my meters 50 feet from the device so I get "accurate" readings. (Whatever accurate is)
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Interesting info about theory on parallel coils...

The L.M.D./T.E.M.Test

Appearently original Kapanadze seems to be based on this theory: Logintudinal Waves. The second Naudin's test more exactly shows parallel coils.
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Not mine, but a Guy posted this Video.
YouTube - FREE ENERGY # 21 Self Running Kapanadze (Kapagen) Free Energy Device Replication
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Definitively is different device

@Joit

Today, I made my second test w Kapagen, in the past I burned a 25 Watts then I'm using a 150W bulb sadly yes, I used about 350 watts to fully bright I think a good SG takes place here I need carbon rods definitively.

But is stupid play w Kapage because is a totally diferent system. Ferromagnetic core seems fundamental on Kapanadze. I think the energy is not totally coming from the earth. Kapanadze devices is more like MEG in my concept, resonance on the Ferromagnetic core producing high output.
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@above,

This is where most people are wrong. Just look the geo.avi video. Kapanadze power comes solely from earth. Lesser quality earth (radiator) almost no power (2 bulbs half lit). No earth - NO power. Simple and plain.

If you managed to make anything else, for sure it is not Kapanadze.
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Can someone translate all the Russian in this image?

I assume the center is split copper tube/pipe inside the Ferrite core but what is on the outside?

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I assume the center is split copper tube/pipe inside the Ferrite core but what is on the outside?

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This is Tiger's understanding of SR's tube transformer. The ferrite core is sandwitched by a inner copper plate and an outer one. This design is quite bizzare, since HV is applied between the two plates and still a SG is working with ground reference. Actually i have seen that in one of my experiments. (RomeroUK "magnet switching")

You can maintain a spark-gap working between two plates with HV yet a second spark-gap can be applied it between ground and negative side of plates (not positive) in case a FWBR is applied to HV source.

but i have a feeling this second spark-gap is a high frequency capacitative one and not of the same nature as the main working spark-gap bearing the main current.
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Free Energy "Teslanadze"/Kapanadze Investigation

I'm new to this forum so if I did post not in the proper spot of this forum I would like to apologize at the beginning of.
I did not find in titles of this forum anything related directly to Tesla concept known as Kapanadze.So please educate me in this area but do not discourage. Kapagen is quite different from Kapanadze project.

I have decided to dedicate my time and attention to mentioned one.
I was involved in scientific activity in the past with government sponsored programs.

One may find this interesting, One may not

YouTube - ‪stivep1's Channel‬‎ (entertaining)


YouTube - ‪stivep1's Channel‬‎ (one of the tests.)


The last four video are in English.

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Hi and then, stivep.

When you want to look for a specific Theme,
then there is a search Function at the Menu above under your Username.
When you think, you wanna post something, what do not fit in any other Threads,
then feel free to create a new Thread left above.

Regarding your Videos it do sounds like,
you can help a bit to translate some russian Pictures into English,
like dllabarre looks for above, when you are around.

Have Fun.
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Hi and then, stivep.



Regarding your Videos it do sounds like,
you can help a bit to translate some russian Pictures into English,
like dllabarre looks for above, when you are around.

Have Fun.
I speak fluent Russian, Polish, English-(quite well).
Understand: Slovak, Czech, Bulgarian,Slovenian, Ukrainian,
If I can be of any help ....you welcome .
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This device sounds interesting

Ok listen, I have a basic understanding of electricity. From what I've scanned through I understand that this device was initially designed to produce 220 volts at 50 Hz. I'm living in the USA and all of my devices run on 120v 60Hz. So what I'm wondering is, can some one point me in the right direction for a diagram or a step by step video on how to build one of these devices that can put out about 5000 watts of power at 120v 60Hz? I would like to replicate this.
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Ok listen, I have a basic understanding of electricity. From what I've scanned through I understand that this device was initially designed to produce 220 volts at 50 Hz. I'm living in the USA and all of my devices run on 120v 60Hz. So what I'm wondering is, can some one point me in the right direction for a diagram or a step by step video on how to build one of these devices that can put out about 5000 watts of power at 120v 60Hz? I would like to replicate this.
hello tim, sory to dissapoint, but this device dont put out extra energy, that was allready proved by the creator, JLNaudin!!

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Ok listen, I have a basic understanding of electricity. From what I've scanned through I understand that this device was initially designed to produce 220 volts at 50 Hz. I'm living in the USA and all of my devices run on 120v 60Hz. So what I'm wondering is, can some one point me in the right direction for a diagram or a step by step video on how to build one of these devices that can put out about 5000 watts of power at 120v 60Hz? I would like to replicate this.

You can search the whole Internet. There is not any definite proof that such device actually exists. Let alone to replicate one step-by-step.
All these forums is about reviewing old and new energy concepts, theorizing, experimenting, story telling and dreaming.

We are just not there yet. If we ever be.
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Familiar sound

I guess that s the beauty of Tariel Kapanadze device. Nobody has been able to replicate it.

On a different note. In Tariel's video when his device starts it make's a familiar sound. This is the same sound a 230/460 volt, 2 H.P., single phase electric motor makes when the run capacitor is defective and its rotor locked.

Here is the video, at about 1 minute in he starts the device.

YouTube - 5KW free energy бестопливный генератор Kapanadze Капанадзе

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I used a slightly different setup from my EV Gray experiments. I am coming to the same conclusion. My next experiment is to wind an additional coil right before the front end goes down to ground. Im starting with a 700 turn steel core single wind placed in series with the first ground. Then I might do the same to the load ground then both. I will post back if I find something.
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"Miracle generator" an interview with Mr Tariel Kapanadze

Here is a nice interview with Tariel Kapanadze (translated with Google)


A new hero in the 21 st century alternative energy, former architect who does not have great knowledge in electronics and electrical engineering (judging by his devaysu), but still creates a generator "freebie." What's his secret? Maybe the fact that he was aware of everything myself, and did not follow the laws of physics, which are described in textbooks? We can only guess ... to suggest it to your attention the interview, I hope for further discussion of his generator.

Interviews entire cosmos is the potential field, said Tariel Kapanadze, I found the key, how can I get the energy, the energy is here, near us in space, just need to open it, and that would take this energy, you need a boost. Recently gave a 9 volt battery powered, and after some time the device started working, then it gives power to itself, in operation, I was able to achieve up to 150 kilowatts of power, but can complicate this process and take more energy!

- This box?
- Yes. Here is the concentration of energy that I get from the space.

- You can tell this energy we get from the air?
- It efirodinamichesky process. At the time, Einstein denied the existence of ether, and later scientists were forced to make its existence in space and in physics, a new direction - Etherodynamics. The process of obtaining energy from space, one of the principal in Etherodynamics.

- So the space, spark, and a secret method, and you can get alternative energy. Yes?
- The high precision I can not say anything, it's a trade secret, and many confrontations with me, tried to steal the idea already.

- Who is interested in this?
- Here (in Georgia), I was unable to interest anyone and went to Turkey and there has patented its own generator, then the Turks, I signed the contract, were to make a 10 megawatt power plant began operation, and at that time seemed certain Mindeli, says, "I also know about this secret ... A lot of money and nerve it took to fight it. I returned to Georgia and Mindeli sits in Turkey and thinks like the space to get energy. Turks were again in contact with me, but I do not want to look there.

- In addition to the Turks no longer interested in your invention?
- Yes, of course, the recent interest in European and Western experts, recently I made my version of the transportation system, a presentation was held at the Patriarchal TV on it was 3.4 experts from Europe, who made sure that the machine now. In the Patriarch of All Georgia have the desire, whatever that invention remained in Georgia, I also like that Georgia would make a good profit, but by the government attention to zero.

- If your invention will be implemented, what are the consequences?
- The first function will lose Telasi (Energocom): The main principle is this - you take as much energy as you want, everyone will be able to install this unit in an apartment or in the entryway. The only thing you need is the wiring and quality parts.

- The government is not interested, you say?
- 2003, Mikhail Saakashvili and Zurab Zhvania came to my house, the entire area cut off from electricity, which would test the effectiveness of my invention, I have a TV and a light bulb turned on. The second day began Ajarian news, but today no one interested ...

- Mr Tariel, and by profession a physicist you?
- Physics I only taught in school. By profession I am an architect, on the road the Lord led me, when asked how the idea was born, I say that it's not mine, and Nikola Tesla was a Serbian scientist who in America has lived and worked.

- What say about plans for budushee?
- Recently, the employee of the company "VESTEL" he said, give one copy of appliances: washing machine, refrigerator, air conditioner, and others, and soon will return so that the plug is not required. Can a similar technique to establish within their own power supply, which will make it work and work. So what future plans do not depend on me. A few days later going to meet with the Patriarch, my desire - the idea is here to stay, but from abroad also have a suggestion, if there is no one interested, I will work with road, sea, rail, air travel, I want to create a lab, now Century Knowledge and information if anyone can win, then it is the mind and the mind God gave us, we'll see what will happen in the future.



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My Replication

Being the kind of person who has to see for himself I decided to try and replicate the Kapagen device. I'm combing what I have learned form years of building Tesla coils and the hind site from the experiences all of you who have had building the Kapagen and am giving it a try.


Kapagen replication 1 by jiffycoil, on Flickr


Kapagen replication 2 by jiffycoil, on Flickr


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I look forward to testing this coil and seeing what it can and cannot do. I will firstly as I do with everything I build have fun building and running it.
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man, i hope it performs as good as it looks..

nice job on the perfect turns on the copper tubing..

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Wow! Thanks Kooler I truly appreciate your complement. I will need to get a few things for testing a Lux meter, and a "killawatt" or similar so I can be kinda accurate. I worked on the spark gap this evening and am looking for a carbon electrode. I did set it up tonight just to test the build . I used tungsten electrodes on the gap and lit 2-120w halogen flood lights. The out put was too bright to look at but that really means nothing but that the coil will work for experimenting.
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I finished building the stand for the coil all except clear coating. I'm trying to get a feel for how I would like the components to be laid out. Next I need to build a light assembly for testing and then wire them both up.


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gas discharge tube that I can use for a halogen lamp 1000w

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Nice set up

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It looks very nice set up.
Would show us detail spec information.
May I see circuit diagram and capacitor values, number of coil turns, diode value ....
Thank you very much for sharing your work.
I wish your experiment succeed.
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:00 PM
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I'm following Jean-Louis Naudin's design. You can find the spec's on his web site. I am making a few changes that I learned making Tesla coils. I will test this unit very soon and if it works I will post the full specs for all to use. At this point only partially through with the build I don't feel confident with posting specs for a unit untested yet.
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All wired

I finished wiring my Kapagen tonight. I used high voltage wire from the MOT to the capacitor and High current wire on the rest of the connections. I kept all connections as short as possible. I wonder how many people who built one of these used a 1Meg Ohm resistor across the capacitor? The way many designs read it looks as though you need one there as a bleed resistor. Just a note to future builders Microwave Oven Capacitors MOC's has an internal bleed resistor that bleed off charge in about 15-20 seconds. I wanted to test the build so I hooked it up to my shop ground and hooked up one 100w bulb.

At 50 volts


Kapagen test by jiffycoil, on Flickr

At 100 volts


Kapagen test 2 by jiffycoil, on Flickr

Looks like normal output for the voltage at this point though it is running single wire. Next I build the light board and sink some ground plates.
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