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I would not count on Don Smith theories if i were you.
They have been extensively tested by me, others and Russians and have been found a pile of BS.

There is not a speck of truth in what he says, not to mention one theory contradicts the other. Smart merchant/book seller he was...
Does that include the material he references of Tesla?

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I think it also has to do with the other coil Tesla showed in Figure 3 of that lecture. It states "......When both the parts are connected in series, this gives a ratio of conversion of about 1:2.7, and with the primaries in multiple, 1:5.4; but in operating with very rapidly alternating currents this ratio does not convey even an approximate idea of the ratio of the E.M.Fs. in the primary and secondary circuits.
but in operating with very rapidly alternating currents this ratio does not convey even an approximate idea of the ratio of the E.M.F.s in the primary and secondary circuits -Tesla

I'm still trying to wrap my head around that idea.

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in this one BOTH the primary and secondary are wound in 2 parts in opposite directions
I see that in the diagram.


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Thumbs up Kapagen : Tesla : (L2-upper CW / Centertap / L2-lower CCW) with respect to L1



reference: Tesla patent #336,961, middle drawing of PDF page 1 of 4.

reference: Resonate Electrical Power System by Don L. Smith, PDF page 6 of 14.

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Does that include the material he references of Tesla?

Tesla was a genius and pioneer for his age. I read and experiment with delight from Tesla writings.
By quoting a distinguished experimenter and scientist that does not mean you make your points more valid.

Tesla never claimed he found out a method for OU even though strived for it. To gain an understanding of Tesla way of experimenting and thinking you must read at least the "The inventions, researchers and Writings of Nikola Tesla" by Thomas Commerford (that Don Smith quotes) and Colorado Spring Notes. Those are must.

Then you must experiment on your own based on basic concepts proposed by Tesla and then judge by yourself if the sayings of Don Smith are true or BS..
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All true.Respect for Don Smith. It's sad he couldn't tell all and had to fake devices.My humble opinion...
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Yes Sir!

Once again, I must say it:
BUCKING MAGNETIC FIELDS
goes back to Tesla's coil shown in his 1892 lecture "EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE CURRENTS OF HIGH POTENTIAL AND HIGH FREQUENCY"

This lecture is the part of the Tesla book that Don Smith said to read, and where he got his ideas from.
I will have to study up on the term Bucking Magnetic Fields, but I probably agree with you!

Thanks for the reference on Tesla.

As far as I know, the idea to reverse coil winding directions and the purpose behind doing so comes from Tesla, according to Smith. Smith also discussed the concept in his 1996 Tesla Symposium videos. Start at 1996 Tesla Symposium, Video #1. I suggest the reader view all nineteen videos. He also referenced that concept in a Tesla patent #336,961, middle drawing of PDF page 1 of 4. You can see that he references this patent in this video: 1996 Tesla Symposium, Video #8.


Picture of Donald L. Smith, circa 2003.

In looking at EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE CURRENTS OF HIGH POTENTIAL AND HIGH FREQUENCY, I would like to cite the following by Tesla:

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I have found it advantageous to reverse the usual position of the wires, and to wind, in these coils, the primaries on the top; this allowing the use of a much bigger primary, which, of course, reduces the danger of overheating and increases the output of the coil. I make the primary on each side at least one centimetre shorter than the secondary, to prevent the breaking through on the ends, which would surely occur unless the insulation on the top of the secondary be very thick, and this, of course, would be disadvantageous.

When the primary is made movable, which is necessary in some experiments, and many times convenient for the purposes of adjustment, I cover the secondary with wax, and turn it off in a lathe to a diameter slightly smaller than the inside of the primary coil. The latter I provide with a handle reaching out of the oil, which serves to shift it in any position along the secondary.

I will now venture to make, in regard to the general manipulation of induction coils, a few observations bearing upon points which have not been fully appreciated in earlier experiments with such coils, and are even now often overlooked.

The secondary of the coil possesses usually such a high self-induction that the current through the wire is inappreciable, and may be so even when the terminals are joined by a conductor of small resistance. If capacity is added to the terminals, the self-induction is counteracted, and a stronger current is made to flow through the secondary, though its terminals are insulated from each other. To one entirely unacquainted with the properties of alternating currents nothing will look more puzzling. This feature was illustrated in the experiment performed at the beginning with the top plates of wire gauze attached to the terminals and the rubber plate. When the plates of wire gauze were close together, and a small arc passed between them, the arc prevented a strong current from passing through the secondary, because it did away with the capacity on the terminals; when the rubber plate was inserted between, the capacity of the condenser formed counteracted the self-induction of the secondary, a stronger current passed now, the coil performed more work, and the discharge was by far more powerful.
One more thing, Smith states in that video, that is, the 1996 Tesla Symposium, Video #8, track 4:08, that this coil by Tesla is the secret to obtaining the desired amperage; however, it is not evident in the diagram below that while the top L2 coil winding turns one direction, the lower L2 coil winding turns in the opposite direction. For that information, refer to the Tesla patent #336,961, middle drawing of PDF page 1 of 4.



See following reference: Resonate Electrical Power System by Don L. Smith, PDF page 6 of 14.



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Smith's Energy (Short) Guide

Smith's Res. Guide

Smith's Res. Methods - This is a large file and takes about 30 seconds to load.

Tesla Patent Referenced by Smith - Smith states this is how to wind a coil for voltage with more amperage.










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Donald L. Smith 1996 Tesla Symposium Part 1
Donald L. Smith 1996 Tesla Symposium Part 2
Donald L. Smith 1996 Tesla Symposium Part 3
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Donald L. Smith 1996 Tesla Symposium Part 5
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Donald L. Smith 1996 Tesla Symposium Part 9
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I would not count on Don Smith theories if i were you.
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There is not a speck of truth in what he says, not to mention one theory contradicts the other. Smart merchant/book seller he was...
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Does that include the material he references of Tesla?

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Tesla was a genius and pioneer for his age. I read and experiment with delight from Tesla writings.
By quoting a distinguished experimenter and scientist that does not mean you make your points more valid.

Tesla never claimed he found out a method for OU even though strived for it. To gain an understanding of Tesla way of experimenting and thinking you must read at least the "The inventions, researchers and Writings of Nikola Tesla" by Thomas Commerford (that Don Smith quotes) and Colorado Spring Notes. Those are must.

Then you must experiment on your own based on basic concepts proposed by Tesla and then judge by yourself if the sayings of Don Smith are true or BS..
You didn't answer my question. You evaded it.

I have learned a lot from Smith. I consider him a great teacher and have a lot of respect for him.

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Post Kapagen : Reference : Thomas Commerford Martin & Tesla's Colorado Springs Notes

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All true.Respect for Don Smith. It's sad he couldn't tell all and had to fake devices.My humble opinion...
You are correct that he did not divulge everything; however, your claim that he faked devices is unsupported and without any evidence.

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Awesome. Thanks for that post. This should resolve some arguments.

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JNL: KAPAGEN INPUT: 172.3W, AND OUTPUT: 989.0W. SEE YT VIDEO

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finnaly some kind of evidence...

but yet, dont prove OU, this method of driving lamps is so efficient that will maybe make seem the brightness will be at full power, but not at is rated power.

i suggest JNaudin make the same test but compare the lux meter values of the load from the grid, with the luxmeter values drived only with the MOT with same input power, and then with the kapagen so we will see whats the difference between them.
and also if the SG/TC and grounds are doing some magic here,

i will only believe when he shows amp draw and voltage in the load, i hope, in a near future!

before he loops the system he must know what values of output are involded here, and the frequency also, so he can correct the frequency to 50Hz and then divide the energy needed to sustain the device from the energy in exess and send only that amount to the load!

i continue to believe that this luxmeter test is only a "mirage"... it only read brightness, not real power passing the lamp!

hope not...

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You didn't answer my question. You evaded it.

I have learned a lot from Smith. I consider him a great teacher and have a lot of respect for him.

I evaded to asnwer what exactly? And what may have you learnt from Don Smith?
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We can all learn, if we open our ears and minds to new, or different information.

Don Smith has exposed some very clear facts that do not fit in, or agree with mainstream science. Tesla was undoubtably the greatest electrical genius who tried to help mankind and Don Smith has confirmed that he studied all of Tesla's ideas, along with Maxwell, D'Arsonval and others.

It is easy to be sceptical and ask for proof, but it is much harder, yet more rewarding, to experiment and listen to wisdom from these great teachers and apply their ideas. I believe those of us who follow their guidelines will achieve results, which others will say are impossible.

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Proof?

You may find what you are searching for in the following video's.


The great news is that Don Smith does demonstrate his suitcase model, beginning near the end of part 12 and it works beautifully.

There is a good deal more discussion/questions and he expands on overseas developments of his devices and solid state versions, etc.

Possibly the best part is the last section, 19, where the 10 x 40watt light bulbs are purchased and replaced by a guy in the audience, with 100watt bulbs. = 1kw.

The guy from the audience summarises that the 12v battery in the suitcase, would need to supply 83amps, to run the bulbs for over the 3 minutes tested and the actual 6amp battery could not possibly do this. (Please also note how long the 400watt array of bulbs were operating, prior to this last test.)

I found some more valuable info in his discussion and he explains his motives for World use, it is well worth listening to, ByJove!


Donald L. Smith 1996 Tesla Symposium Part 12
YT Videos of Smith Replication Experiments

Smith Resonance

Don Smith replication First Step

Don Smith Tune #1

Don Smith Gap Firing from Pulsed Coil

Interesting Document by Smith

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bravers experimentes? i think thats a work for me...

will report tomorrow, thank you very much for all your efforts on this!

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Does that include the material he references of Tesla?

Yes or No

LoL. Know my friend that best propaganda is the one based on 50% lie and 50% truth.

Don Smith quotes Tesla's high frequency transformers and experiments for validating his false points of free energy extraction. Tesla never made such claim.

Have you read the Tesla Patent about "Dynamo Regulator"? This patent is regarding the coil you show. "Tesla did proposed that..."
Do you know where this coil setup really applies? ITS NOT about amperage, it works as a dimmer in conjuction with movable brushes (variable resistors)

...
On the other hand you seem to me a fanatical new-comer that would not take any words...

Just worship Don Smith before you have experimented with anything that proposes just to find out that we have found out before you.

Don Smith sayings is a pile of BS...
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Don Smith quotes Tesla's high frequency transformers and experiments for validating his false points of free energy extraction.
You admit that Smith quotes Tesla. If something is false, then it can't be validated. If everything Smith said was a lie, then he would have been unable to quote a truth, so he would have been unable to quote Tesla.

I win.

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