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Old 06-15-2015, 03:45 AM
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Hi garry, thanks for sharing.
I made a drawing of the coils and marked off the polarities and it does seem when using the 2 rotors, a magnet rotor on each side of partnered coils, that when the magnets induce into the coils, it should cancel lenz electrically at least.
How it pans out in reality with the induced fields being integral in the coils, is another matter.
Though it may help give the motor more speed as you say, by reducing to some degree the generator action at certain phases of magnet to coil interaction.
Though one coil must definitely be wound the other direction, so that the input magnetic fields do not cancel.
What i see in my sketch, is the rotor magnet induced magnetic fields are not bucking, though the rotor magnet induced electric polarities are bucking, like two equal voltage batteries in parallel.
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Hi folks, Hi garry, i found these drawings someone made.
This is what we are discussing at the moment, it shows the proper, counter wound coils and the parallel center connection when using the dual magnet rotor setup like on your bike.
Though your floppy coils would not work, unless one was rewound the opposite direction.



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H folks, Hi Matt, thanks for the idea for the shaft, it will probably help. I fired up the motor today using 36 volts and using a reed switch from the shack with an NTE392 NPN transistor. She runs good, still have to mount reed switch, I was holding with one hand and other holding shaft to sense shaft torque. It has a bit of torque, when unloaded it draws around 100 milliamps and when loaded with grasping hand drawing around 500 milliamps at around 1/2 the unloaded speed, it gets a little painful. So at 36volts, unloaded is 3.6 watts and loaded with hand, its around 18 watts. I placed a neon across collector and emitter to see any flyback and it does not light up until a certain speed and if using 24volts input it never lights up. At 36volts if i ramp it up to full speed unloaded and disconnect input power and let it coast, the neon stays lit until it drops to a certain speed then goes out. So I guess that means the coils are outputting enough voltage to turn on the neon, which is the green 120 volt version, at a certain rpm. Though it does not seem that flyback is causing it to light up. Let me hear your thoughts on this. Here is a pic of the motor with circuit, the old timing wheel i had is too big so I'll have to make another one.
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Old 07-23-2016, 12:11 PM
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You dont have to worry about coil or magnets in this motor the underlying principal is what counts here and this will work with any pair of matched coils and any pair of matched magnets in any number of configurations or any number of pairs of matched magnets and coils.

i used a hot glue gun to stick my coils down if that helps ...makes it easy to slice them off and do it again if you get it wrong.

The magnet layout is one rotor all north pointing in and one all south creating an attraction in the center ...this is important further down the track.

I removed 6 of the original 12 coils in my motor but left the magnets at 12 because the proximity of the coils was causing induction in the following coil at the same time as the current one was firing which may not be a bad thing, though i did not ever refit them to see what it was doing after i took them out and had an understanding of what was going on in the motor.

The basis of this motor is effectively a centertap coil with one half removed and refittied the other way round this changes the direction of current flow in the half turned around so it can function as it did, this also most importantly changes the direction of induced flow in this coil which means that the 2 halves of the coil are now opposing each other in the induction or generator mode and thus they cancel each other out equally to nothing.

Since this induction is not activly fighting the incoming current ...induction or potential if you like being voltage ... the input current is free to flow longer since on switching of the input the circuit now grows around the battery instead of being captive between the 2 coils and so the end result is the voltage potential fighting against the input potential is halved thus the motor can go faster than it could in a standard configuration.

this is not OU...OU doesnt exist this is merely using sound scientific methods in a different configuration and effectively producing a better mouse trap.

There is more of course to this but until you clearly understand the effect of a magnet moving its flux field in the presence of a coil and what actually happens in the coil you wont grasp the finer details of what is going on in the flat coil scenario that is adding to the output.

i am somewhat limited for time these days i take over a coffee bar in a few days and am swamped with paperwork but i will login and help where ever i can and just in case you are still wondering yes i am Garry Stanley and there is still a pulse_motor_group out there but its pretty much dead.

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This is not OU but OU can easily be achieved with this using Flywheel to gain Gravitational Power to further Massively Cut Down or totally Eliminate this Motor Lenz under Load.

One thing I have Practically discovered is that Lenz relys heavily on Load level which means that when you have not yet reach the Lenz level of a Motor under load, there will not be any drag.

But once you load your motor to the Lenz level of that Motor, Lenz orndrag will come in. So all is left now is to find a way of making near or totally lensless motor and use that to drive a near Cogless or Lensless Alternator. Same principle of coil widing can be applied to making alternator or generator coil:SPLIT THE COILS.
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Old 07-23-2016, 02:47 PM
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Hi darediamond, i've been searching my drives, doing my best to recover the images.
Start at first page and continue and you will see the image recovery progress.
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Ok, i'm having trouble finding my motor build pictures, still looking though.
I added some pics through the pages of this thread and here i will just dump more.
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Hi folks, I am just about ready to start building a true Garry Stanley pulse motor. I built one before that worked great, but I did not use the thin coils with a space in between the coil pair. Mine will be a little bit smaller than the one shown on his bike, although i read he changed the design to six magnets per rotor and 6 coil pairs making that 12 coils total and he said it worked better. Mine will have similar thin coils at 1/8" thick by 1-3/4" diameter with 1" hole since I'm using 1" diameter neo magnets. Center stator plate will be 3/8" thick hard wood and coils will sit on outside of this stator plate same as Garry's design was. I have read everything I could get my hands on regarding his comments and he said some very interesting things about his motor design that I was able to understand. Regardless of the seemingly abrupt end to his work being public, i feel his motor design is unique and worthy of further study.
Here are a few pics of his pulse motor and a diagram.



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I added some pics through the pages of this thread and here i will just dump more.
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Old 09-05-2016, 01:41 AM
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Hi folks, I am just about ready to start building a true Garry Stanley pulse motor. I built one before that worked great, but I did not use the thin coils with a space in between the coil pair. Mine will be a little bit smaller than the one shown on his bike, although i read he changed the design to six magnets per rotor and 6 coil pairs making that 12 coils total and he said it worked better. Mine will have similar thin coils at 1/8" thick by 1-3/4" diameter with 1" hole since I'm using 1" diameter neo magnets. Center stator plate will be 3/8" thick hard wood and coils will sit on outside of this stator plate same as Garry's design was. I have read everything I could get my hands on regarding his comments and he said some very interesting things about his motor design that I was able to understand. Regardless of the seemingly abrupt end to his work being public, i feel his motor design is unique and worthy of further study.
Here are a few pics of his pulse motor and a diagram.



All comments greatly appreciated.
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How did you connect the single 6 coils to negate Lenz Sky?

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I am not gonna apply MOSFET in my design as I plan to go Extremely big with Voltage minimum of 500Vdc so I am gonna apply mechanical commutator which I will make myself.

Also my wires gonna be Serially connected Multifillar wire of 100 strands so as to gain Powerful Flux without adding any more wire to the coil. This in turn will boost the torque and negate any residual Lenz effect.

I plan to use 10 individual Tesla-Idea-Wound-Serially Connected Electromagnets.

And my plan is to wind Secondaries under each or the primary electromagnet in the same direction each of the Electromagnet is wound. That is: CWp CCWs and so on and so forth.

But the Secondaries will be paired at 45 and connected in parallel to negate Lenz which means they will be in Bucking mode every time they got energised which will be continuous as they receive amplified power from the Neo Mags and Overlay Electromagnets.

May I know your take on this Sky?
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Hi all, Hi darediamond, it has been awhile since i have experimented with this motor, though it is an efficient motor.
I seem to recall from garry's explanations, that the coils are wire in parallel pairs, to reduce the lenz opposition when coils are first energized, i don't think it completely eliminates the lenz, just reduces it some, when coils are fired for motor action.
Also, the magnet rotor geometry is said to assist that also.
Also, your idea of using higher voltage is a good idea and the more parallel coils in series, the better.
I was able to maintain the same watts input, while at the same time, increasing shaft torque, by adding coil pairs and increasing the voltage input to maintain the same watts input.
The coils are wired in paralleled pairs, with a typical north and south pole on each end of parallel coil pair.
I cannot find any of the pictures from my motor build, unfortunately.
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Do you mean you do not know how to access that patent?

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I have the patent...and have been wanting to replicate. It is similar to the motor on this tread....I will order magnets for this when I order the magnets for my permanent magnet alternator. It seems to me..if the coils do anything to the magnetic field...just warp it a little bit....it will turn. The Flynn motor was on the back burner until this thread came up
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Ok, i finally figured out what i've been doing wrong with these image posts. This should work.

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Skywatcher, does this diagram not relate to this procedure too : Cancelling lensing in a generator. ?
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How did you connect the single 6 coils to negate Lenz Sky?

Please may I have your reply?
Hello again Skywatcher.
Garry in one of his posts here said he have on one Rotor All north and on another rotor all south. Was it because he.used Double Paralleled Coils at each angle?


I am having 4 single Air core Electromagnets of 500grams each.

But I am somehow confused about the proper Anti-lenz configuration.

Is it that to negate Lenz, I must wind coil at 12 o'clock in clockwise direction and wind the coil at 6 o'clock in clockwise direction too and now connect them in PARALLEL ?

Remember you said Ben used 4 Electromagnets and he connected the ones at 180 apart in parallel.

Does this now means that the Poles will be in alternate fashion where the Pole at 12 will be North and the Pole at 3 o'clock will be South and the Pole at 6o'clock will North and the pole at 9o'clock will South?

I wanna use single coils at each.Angle not double parallel coils.
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Hi darediamond, i tried both ways, the garry stanley way was two separate coils back to back in parallel, with a sheet of plastic in between and glued to this plastic sheet, he used the coils from the old floppy drives.
Garrys coils were not wound in different directions.
I then just used single coils and paralleled the ones across from each other or 180 degrees from each other.
The theory from garry is in this thread somewhere, i posted it from archives i had of his conversations on the net.
One of the theories was, that in the parallel configuration, the coil pre-charge when magnet is approaching coil is reduced, which lessens the counter emf when the coils are energized to then attract the magnet to coil.
Another effect that was theorized, was an aiding emf created by the permanent magnets on each side of the coils.
Another effect, was the permanent magnets being so close and on each side of the coils, helped to compensate for the use of air coils, keeping the coil magnetic fields from straying or deflecting and making it more efficient.
I hope that helps, that is what garry said and his bicycle tests with that motor sounded rather impressive.
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Hi darediamond, i tried both ways, the garry stanley way was two separate coils back to back in parallel, with a sheet of plastic in between and glued to this plastic sheet, he used the coils from the old floppy drives.
Garrys coils were not wound in different directions.
I then just used single coils and paralleled the ones across from each other or 180 degrees from each other.
The theory from garry is in this thread somewhere, i posted it from archives i had of his conversations on the net.
One of the theories was, that in the parallel configuration, the coil pre-charge when magnet is approaching coil is reduced, which lessens the counter emf when the coils are energized to then attract the magnet to coil.
Another effect that was theorized, was an aiding emf created by the permanent magnets on each side of the coils.
Another effect, was the permanent magnets being so close and on each side of the coils, helped to compensate for the use of air coils, keeping the coil magnetic fields from straying or deflecting and making it more efficient.
I hope that helps, that is what garry said and his bicycle tests with that motor sounded rather impressive.
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Thank you for the quick reply. I am yet to get answer to my question Sky and it is that, are the Permanent Magnet on the Rotor arranged in South, North, South, North on the 2 rotors or are they arranged in North , North, North, North on one side and South, South, South, South on the the second rotor?
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Hi darediamond, sorry for not understanding.
One rotor will be ALL north facing in towards the coil or coils and the other rotor will have permanent magnet facing ALL south in towards the coil or coils, so the permanent magnets are in attraction to each other.
I used big steel washers, stacked to create a spacer on the shaft in my build.
Because i used neo magnets of 1" diameter x 3/4" length, so depending how close you get the rotors, they really pull hard towards each other and the rotors need to be aligned well, so as not to hit the coils or anything.
Hope that helps, feel free to ask any more questions, i will answer them if i am able to.
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Before I came across Garry's set up, I have given taught to making a Pure Non-attracting Motor like his which you and others demystified here.

My nightmare as always been how to make the rotors continually spin being a hat I cannot use MOSFET nor transistor to switch 1000kv without getting them burnt in a jiffy. I am used to using Homemade Mechanical Copper Commutator and Carbon Brush.

My fear have always been on the repulsion set up of all north all south rotors as I am used to The.Alternate rotors a.k.a Attraction Motor or Motor Generator. But now, I have to man-up and face it.

I am not gonna use single wire wound coil anyways. Mine shall be Multi strand wire wound coil which it strands are.serially connected. So this way, I will be creating High Flux with less turns. 500g coil gonna have the strength.of.single strand wound 6kg.coil or even bigger as I increase the pulsing DC input.Voltage to the brim ( 3kvdc) and or section the strands further into 40 or 100 strands and power it with the same 500vdc.

You ones said Garry did not wind his coil on my style of CC to CC or clockwise to clockwise. But that was what he did when he flipped the CCW Coil to achieve NSNS. The Widing direction does not mater as long as you pul the strings rigth by connecting the ends correctly to give you the needed Poles.

If you wind a coil in CC and supply positive to it start you are gonna get North at that top but if you reverse it by supplying posits to the End of the coil then North Pole will be at the Base.

This is exactly what Garry did to get S.N in the center of the Partnered Coils. So there is no need to waste time on the winding direction once the rule of Pole Generation is well understood and applied. I can wind all my coils in CCW direction and still get the same required pole configurations. Yeah I can.

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Hi darediamond, sorry for not understanding.
One rotor will be ALL north facing in towards the coil or coils and the other rotor will have permanent magnet facing ALL south in towards the coil or coils, so the permanent magnets are in attraction to each other.
I used big steel washers, stacked to create a spacer on the shaft in my build.
Because i used neo magnets of 1" diameter x 3/4" length, so depending how close you get the rotors, they really pull hard towards each other and the rotors need to be aligned well, so as not to hit the coils or anything.
Hope that helps, feel free to ask any more questions, i will answer them if i am able to.
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How does the set up in the attached picture aligns with All North All South Rotor Set Up because it is clear that that setup is Attraction motor which I ealier had in mind not the repulsion motor you are talking about now?
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How does the set up in the attached picture aligns with All North All South Rotor Set Up because it is clear that that setup is Attraction motor which I ealier had in mind not the repulsion motor you are talking about now?
Now I get it Sky.

If am gonna use 4 coils whether in DC (repulsive motor) or AC (attraction MotorGennerator) my coils must be at 90degrress apart one wound in Clockwise and the other in Counterclockwise.

I see.

Hmmm....

Thank you for being patient with me.

Now I think the upgrade I have came up with will work easily now as BACK E.M.F will be negated at each off session.

Now, time to test the attraction and repulsion modes to see the best out of the 2.

Can you device a means to convert this to Motioneless Motor Generator Sky using Ferrite C-Core or Toroid??

I strongly believe Motionless version will work like Magic!

Oh, I remember now that, the Figuera Motionless Gen works this way of Garry's too.

All is just needed is to close the Magnetic Part for Higher efficiency and applied Serially connected Multifillar Wire and High Frequency as well as High Voltage.

thank you sky for helping me help myself. And yes, thank you Garry and everyother people on this thread for making me task my Brain.
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