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An Epitaph to Modern Living
In Mexico’s Gulf the oil slicks grow
Borne on wind and tides so slow

The sea birds, still bravely singing, fly
Trying to escape the remorseless flow.

We are the dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunsets glow

But now we lie broken, with oil soaked plumage
The innocent victims of failed safety; just so.

Will the humans that caused this ever learn
Of the folly that comes from a ruined environment
But corporate business has big bucks to earn

In Mexico’s Gulf.

With thanks to John McCrae and Michael
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Old 05-16-2010, 02:15 AM
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The problem with this whole mess is that it's going to wind up costing us much more than the ecological and economic damage already inflicted.
The ruling elite love to create the illusion of shortages. This spill plays right into that scenario.
You watch, there will be a ban on all new offshore drilling and the price of oil will rise because they will claim we're "running out of oil". Of course that's total BS, but the MSM won't dare to question their masters, so everyone will go right along with it.
This also plays into the particular fears of a short US domestic supply, which then further "justifies", in many peoples minds, the US military adventurism into oil rich countries in the middle east.
Whether this was an accident or intentional, we're going to be paying for this incident in money, environmental degradation and blood for many years to come.

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If the truth about the size of the deposit tapped by this disastrous well were to be broadcast that would kill the myth of an oil "shortage". I've heard it said it is the largest known reserve and could be greater than the total used by all of man since the beginning of the age of petroleum. There were hints of this in some news reports that came out in the first days of the incident but was quickly forgotten as the rig sank and the calamity advanced.

Can't say where to find a reference on that, but hopefully a good researcher (or whistleblower) will find it and get the word out far enough that it spreads. However, if the situation advances the way some think it may, this is a moot point.

As always the main stream headlies are trying to spin the limited info and play on peoples ignorance. There has been some very good discussion of the subject occurring over at GLP. The BP Deep water horizon, Macondo Well Blowout. and what we are facing in the Gulf.
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Old 05-16-2010, 08:26 AM
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It's no good

Yeh...you can just about hear the planet screaming. Oil is a real horror because of its ability to spread in viscous manner and NOT break down in any tearing hurry. I believe the stats for rendering drinking water unsuitable for consumption is literally only 1 drop of machine oil per every 25 litres. Considering ALL the leaking wells in the world that are currently losing thousands of gallons 'slowly' (combined), you almost don't want to think about it too much. What about our leaking vehicles that drop oil on the road and washes down storm drains, then out to sea? This is actually a MASSIVE component (not even mentioning the other chemicals and fluids that society excretes). Unfortunately, as humans we are part of the greater hypocrisy. Every time we buy anything in a plastic bottle, please consider that it took half a litre of crude oil to make that plastic bottle!!

In the grand scheme of things though, as much as I weep about this oil spill it is a tiny scratch on what man has inflicted throughout history (and continues to do). I find it unbelievable that in Eastern Europe, one of the deepest lakes in the world (and purest CLOSED loop water sources) looks like it will have a massive chemical factory built on its shores. Where are they going to dump the waste you ask?? As ludicrous as it seems (and remember I said the lake is CLOSED loop) they are going to dump heavy metal crap right into the pristine waters. How stupid is mankind damnit!? Thats like being told you only have one litre of drinking water in a jug in your home and deciding to poop in it!

I see all these things happening and the only thing that brings me solace Ash is the fact that at some stage I know our Creator will step in and do something about it because he promises in Revelation 11:18 ...."to bring to ruin those ruining the Earth".

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Old 05-17-2010, 09:32 PM
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Here's some real info minus the hype.

2010/137 16:40 UTC - Terra/MODIS - Rapid Response System

Also thought someone out there might like this:

KarmaBanque :: what goes around, comes around

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Old 05-17-2010, 09:55 PM
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Eye Witness Testimony

Hi Folks,

Here is the eye-witness testimony of Mike Williams, a technician and survivor from the Deepwater Horizon.

Deepwater Horizon's Blowout, Part 1 - 60 Minutes - CBS News

Here's what really happened!

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Captured: The Gulf Oil Spill – Plog Photo Blog

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Text Book Fascism

Outrageous.

cryptogon.com » U.S. COAST GUARD THREATENED CBS NEWS CREW WITH ARREST FOR FILMING OIL SPILL DISASTER; COAST GUARD SAID THAT THEY WERE ACTING UNDER AUTHORITY OF BRITISH PETROLEUM; “THIS IS BP RULES. IT’S NOT OURS.”

Fascism, , is a political ideology that seeks to combine radical and authoritarian nationalism with a corporatist economic system...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:49 PM
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Gulf Oil Reaches Loop Current

Hi Folks,

Here's the latest from the BBC. This is not good!

BBC News - Gulf oil now in powerful Loop Current, scientists say

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18 billion gallons of oil pollution created by Texaco in Ecuador since 1960's

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I am gonna boy cot BP and talk about this in future video's even on TV this year. These guys blew it!

Ash
Ashweth,

You think that is bad, listen to this video of the 18 billion gallons of oil pollution created by the greed of these oil cartels. The below video is positive as it is introducing some natural effective remediation technologies through a grass roots movement as the oil companies are taking no responsibility:

Using mushrooms to breakdown oil and other contaminants left by Texaco and
other oil companies that have been building up since the 1960's to the
amount of 18 billion gallons of oil pollution in Ecuador's rain forest.

15 minute video link:

A Solution to Pollution - Mycoremediation in the Ecuadorian Amazon.

Best regards,

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Print and stick them up.

More to come!!

http://www.matthewcjones.com/Boycott/BigOilBoycott.jpg

Buy paper or go to your local printer and get bulk.

Amazon.com: Wausau Astrobrights Print and Stick Adhesive Backed Heavy Duty Paper, 24 lb, 8.5 x 11 Inches, White, 30 Sheets (70971): Office Products.

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Matt you RAWK brother you know this right? dont make me ask Jeff to post

THX IndianaBoys adding to the site my friend good work.

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Outrageous.

cryptogon.com » U.S. COAST GUARD THREATENED CBS NEWS CREW WITH ARREST FOR FILMING OIL SPILL DISASTER; COAST GUARD SAID THAT THEY WERE ACTING UNDER AUTHORITY OF BRITISH PETROLEUM; “THIS IS BP RULES. IT’S NOT OURS.”

Fascism, , is a political ideology that seeks to combine radical and authoritarian nationalism with a corporatist economic system...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
They should have dared the coast guard to arrest them and then resisted.
That kind of dissent is justified. Many times more people would be aware of
what they wanted to film if they did that. I would dare the coast guard
to arrest anyone under bp's "authority".

The last non-watered down definition of fascism is from 27 years ago,
in an American English dictionary that is:
"fascism - A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."
American Heritage Dictionary, 1983
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:30 AM
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Ayhan Doyuk solutions

Since 19-eightees Ayhan Doyuk has been giving simple solution to completely and safely removing oil from water. In fact, it is more, the oil will mix with water or, if desired, it will be changed to white substance (fatty acids), which is food for water creates, and fall on the bottom, all within hours. In the past he did this a few times, as he told me, on large oil splits an a few places.
So I wonder, why they don't want him to help this time, since they (BP and almost all governments) know him and about him very well?
one example:
YouTube - Ayhan Doyuk AyDo Water Petrol Safe and Lazer

Watch more films showing his experiments and you will be amazed if not shocked, that this looks like a sci-fi fantasy but it is not, it is real.
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Actor In New Orleans To Promote Oil-Extracting Machine

@ sciencisto This was on the local orlando TV news a couple of days ago.

Kevin Costner Helps Fight Oil Spill - News Story - WFTV Orlando

*edit*
This just came through over at rexresearch.com
David Meikrantz, et al : Centrifugal Separator ( oil-water)

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BP has sprayed nearly 700,000 gallons of Corexit chemical dispersant on the surface of the gulf and directly onto the leaking well head, a mile underwater. It is by far the largest use of chemicals to break up an oil spill in United States waters to date.
Agency Orders BP to Use a Less Toxic Chemical in Cleanup - NYTimes.com

Corexit is Killing the Gulf

It appears to me that everything BP has done so far has been an attempt to CONTROL this disaster rather than STOP IT. I belive they could have stopped the flow rather quickly if motivated to do so, but they are trying to maintain the viability of their precious well at the expense of the earth and peasants.

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Exactly and even their "control" methods have not stooped it, YouTube - BP Slick Burn at The Source.mov
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BP has lost "all credibility"

Hi Folks,

Here is another clip from the BBC where Massachusetts Congressman Edward Markey describes the latest films of the leaking well, where BP claims they are now siphoning off 5000 Barrels of Oil a day into the barge overhead. The oil still spilling into the water looks undiminished from earlier footage.

BBC News - BP attacked over oil leak video

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Old 05-21-2010, 08:25 PM
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This is an uncontainable unspinnable disaster.

With politicians now attacking big oil it will be interesting to see how far this will go. With the general public's awareness and acceptance of the green movement, BP murdering the ocean on a daily basis, and viable alternative energy sources just a stones throw from development, this could possibly be a turning point in some respects.
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Old 05-22-2010, 09:35 AM
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It was done on purpose, supposedly

Has anyone watched the Movie "Knowing (2009)" ?
Didn't "they" know it?

This is taken from Project Camelot:

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It occurred to me that the oil spill had to be engineered from higher levels and my only question was, why? What did they hope to gain?

A source has contacted me to reveal the following:

Apparently, a faulty gasket was installed and allowed to fail. The ultimate objective has to do with the movement of the North Atlantic conveyer... In the end, what we have here is a move in the chess game of Weather Wars.

From Wikipedia:

"It is believed that North Atlantic Deep Water formation has been dramatically reduced at times during the past (such as during the Younger Dryas or during Heinrich events), and that this might correlate with a decrease in the strength of the Gulf Stream and the North Atlantic drift, in turn cooling the climate of northwestern Europe..."

Although the exact way this will play out is unclear. However, the gist of it all is that the spill moving up the Northeast coast of the U.S. will head toward Iceland (what is it about Iceland that is such a trigger point/focus for things at this time one wonders) and then over to Europe. Result? Further cooling of the UK and North Europe and destruction of the fisheries industries in those areas, plunging Europe into food shortages and economic turmoil.

What this source said is that this is all part of the very long range plan to roll out the Anglo-Saxon Mission. Large contingents are making plans to go off-world and elsewhere in the long run.

This source also cited the movie KNOWING as containing a precursor event very similar to the actual oil rig explosion in the Gulf... this info is all over the net. See this YouTube video clip from the movie: YouTube - "Knowing" movie and the Oil Rig Explosion in the Gulf of Mexico 2010.avi

Coincidence? I think not. This is called fore shadowing. An Illuminati signature move.

So what do we have? More volcanic rumblings in Iceland, further predictions of ash in the skies affecting travel... How does this serve the 'masters' you have to ask and the answer is obvious. People are limited, can't move around a freely etc. etc.

The endgame is they are moving toward population thinning and control. This is all part of it.
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Old 05-22-2010, 09:52 AM
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Some say it is volcanic eruption

Check this out: YouTube - Gulf Oil spill - looks more like a Vulcano

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Letter from the Oil Fields of Oklahoma

I received the folllowing letter confirmation of the info on my May 20 post from a person who wishes to remain anonymous:

LETTER:

Kerry,

I worked for my uncle in the oil/gas fields in the corner of Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado and Texas during high school and college.

He had an oil field hauling company. Basically, he had specialized trucks which moved the rigs from site to site--taking them down and setting them up.

What few 'color' videos I have seen on this well do seem to support, at least to some degree, the statements of the commentator on the film you reference in your blog.

Even in black and white it is clear allot of gas is coming out. In color, it appears that gas as well as sulfur are coming out. Several other statements about them not vacuuming up oil for later processing as they did around Saudi Arabia does make one suspicious.

I looked at several films, but I believe it was in the one you reference that he spoke of how thick oil was and that it was not fluid, but a very thick substance needing heat to flow freely. This is definitely not true! It may be of some oils, but none that I have ever seen.

I also worked with U. S. Customs in Galveston, Texas (among other locations). We had to supervise the discharge of various petro-chemical tankers in Texas City, Texas. I have seen plenty of crude and all of it was very fluid.

In any event, it appears that those in charge are deliberately not taking any serious steps to stop the disaster.

It looks like the powers-that-be finally have their solution to cull the herd without any finger pointing at them as we might have in other circumstances. After all, this is just an unfortunate act of nature.

Not sure I have been of any assistance, but I think the commentator on the referenced video had a number of VALID points.

[NAME REMOVED, OKLAHOMA]

Watch the Kemner video to learn more....just below here.
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I don't think the conspiracy route is very productive. There won't be any answers there.
If there is a conspiracy at all it would be alot simpler. BP was betting that the oil would spill sooner or later. They knew government would make them to clean it up. Somewhere along the line hear they are going to start drilling in every area that that is affected as "Part of the Clean Up".

The whole thing almost guarantees it. After all its already a big mess.

If you look at the response to Global Warming and the ice caps melting the answer become apperant. They already have plans for drilling as soon as the ice is gone.

Its just simple greed, at any cost. No big conspiracy.

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In many ways i agree with that, but there is a "conspiracy"; meaning the ACTUAL definition. It is a "conventional" conspiracy, like we see every day all over the world: That is about simple GREED and sociopath behavior... and not about "NWO", "aliens", or "secret blood lines".

It is a crime to deliberately lie on national television news. It is a crime to mis-report spillage information to the U.S. government's agencies. It is a crime to lie to Congress.

It is a crime against Humanity as well, when the results affect us all.

These are "conspiracies"... The type that get thousands of people sent to jail in this country every year...

Lol, are our Judges "conspiracy theorists"?

Are they wearing tin foil hats when they give out the Sentences for federal penitentiary?

Conspiracy exists (there is absolutely no denial of this), and always has. What is a fairly recent advent (since 1963, the year John Kennedy was assassinated), is the deliberate and very effective "coloring" of the word; that changes its meaning and adds connotations that are designed to create emotional responses. This has been done by the U.S.' "CIA" as a specific and deliberate project: By constantly inserting references into popular media; and the careful control of the corporate-owned mainstream media to insure that the only response ever seen by the public.... is that of derision towards it.

And crime... graft, corruption... lying... certainly exists in our government. Over the years THOUSANDS of bureaucrats have been convicted of it. Perhaps people forget this important and elemental point when they are being daily bombarded by "NWO" theories.

And perhaps, in the end, that is the point of them. A straw man that stops people from looking at the obvious:

That at the "top", we have groups of loosely associated mafia-like "families"... criminal organizations posing as legitimate corporations or other groups.

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Old 05-23-2010, 04:45 AM
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Although I completely agree with you on this subject that greed is one of our main conspiracies out there, and all of us have, I even now can feel this rotten feeling sometimes in myself too. It only goes away when one can extend his mind, and think big, think galactic, think universal, and it comes when one thinks small, that he is what is his body ....

But ...
All of these wars going on, vaccinations, mind control, chemtrails, deliberate banning of material such as Wilhelm Reich's Orgone, and of course fluoridation, etc cannot be caused by Greed alone.

Definitely, there is some intelligence or some entities, behind the scenes, that are very knowledgeable, and benefit from human greed and ignorance. Only a group of greedy people, seeking for power, CANNOT know all this much to ban this much. They are being manipulated by using their greed to keep people in fear, that is what I see.

You know every religion, I mean every religion talks about Satan, and an evil being that is somehow a fallen angel, which we must beware of it! There is a saying that the fact that most of us don't believe such a thing is the cause of its power.

There is some evidence that these "Reptilians" and "Negative Entities" really do exist, and all of this is a spiritual war going on behind the scenes, is reflected in our technology and way of living.

I consider the Movie, Avatar, to be narrative of what happened to us. We are the Navis, and the Reptilians, and the Annunaki are the greedy humans, we were genetically manipulated by them to become left brain entities, and we lost our connection from nature. And all of our problems we face today comes from the fact that we don't see ourselves connected. We need to claim our power back.

Well, this is what I think at the moment ...
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There is a new "Group" page at Facebook entitled "Boycott BP".

The Free Energy Facebook Group | Facebook

I posted the link there (twice actually, cause it keeps getting instantly "buried" 3 pages back), as i had done previously at our own Free Energy Facebook Group page, of the Coast Guard and BP personnel threatening journalists with jail if they continued to report on the oil on the beach there in Louisiana.

Within 30 minutes, i received a "friend request" there at FB, that showed a user photo of a gun and the user name "See Ya". This fake "person" had no friends and the account was obviously created just for this reason.

Lol, that was the lamest and stupidest example of intimidation i have seen yet.. And i saw some real "doozies" back in the political genre when the neocons were still in open power

That "Boycott BP" page there has some of the worst and most blatant examples of shills and trolls ever seen. I pointed that out too; in a post done there at the same time (which imo is the best way to deal with it in many cases)

Intimidation attempts on internet posters are both incredibly lame, and indeed stupid. This means that those who are trolling that site are almost certainly not the same folks we see here, they are most probably paid directly by "BP"... i give our usual opponents here more credit than that; they understand how incredibly stupid it is

There are indeed, imo, multiple factions at work on the internet.

What these imbeciles never understand is, they could live to be a hundred and never figure out a way to intimidate us.. And "trying" is exactly what will see them in jail themselves.

They need to remember, that the "Nuremberg defense" has been "thoroughly debunked"
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This is very interesting:

The below link story HAS BEEN CHANGED AFTER PUBLICATION. They added the disclaimer. But it is important to understand, that NOTHING was "wrong" about the original story... As the video proves, journalists certainly were turned away from the oil polluted beaches.

So in journalism, it is an important tenet that the record must stand. NEW information is put into an ALL NEW STORY... Even "Retractions" are separate articles and not in the original... As it cannot be changed under any ethical conditions.

Since the story was wholly accurate and this cannot be disputed, there was absolutely no legal threat of law suit, or Criminal Libel....

So why did they change their story?

Three guesses

This stands as proof that not only does BP have the power to dictate to the US government, it also has the power to manipulate even so-called "Independent" media sources on the internet.

BP, Coast Guard Officers Block Journalists From Filming Oil-Covered Beach (VIDEO)
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Orwellian Newspeak

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Reminds me of the 'ole 1984 memory hole.

Slavery is Freedom. War is Peace. Yadda Yadda Yadda.

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Do these two rednecks have a solution to the cleanup?

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
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some solutions

Nice simple solution with the hay. Obviously the water will still be
contaminated but getting the thick sludge out is crucial.

Anything that does wind up on the beach, Paul Stamets fungus will
break it down. Someone already posted about it I think.
"Bioremediation"
YouTube - Paul Stamets - Bioremediation with Fungi

There are MANY solutions to this mess but most are not available at the
grand scale necessary for this calamity.

There are many enzyme type products that can break the hydrocarbons
down to their basic parts and there are some nano-colloidal natural
decreasing agents that if sprayed on the oil will also break them down and
encapsulate the hydrocarbons keeping them in suspension so they will
not sink.

There is also a special pump that is overly efficient that can suck the
contaminated water out of the ocean and spit it out of another pipe
where everything is separated by mass.

That video discussing the possibility of puncturing a volcano is very
interesting. The yellow plume of what looks like sulfur is very clear.
There may be crude oil coming up but that doesn't look like it is only
crude oil.

Boycott BP!
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Boycott BP

Got the boycott bp logo on my personal homepage:
Feel The Vibe | Aaron Murakami

I simply linked it to a pre-keyworded google search for "boycott bp"
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