Hi Folks,

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BBC News - BP accused of 'buying academic silence'

Peter

Hello everyone, this is an older video (day 70) but it does show more evidence of the toxic levels of "doesntcorexit" in the water.
YouTube - TheUFOeffect's Channel

Brian

Great video channel in particular this one guys
thanks for posting my friend this helped us with video editing!

YouTube - The Video BP & Big Oil Don't Want You to See (By AlienScientist)

“DEEPWATER HORIZON� OIL RIG: THE WELL FROM HELL | Adrian Salbuchi

Al

I saw in the news today that BP CEO Tony Hayward has been let go from his position. BP apparently thinks that their public opinion will show improvement if an American CEO (probably Managing Director Bob Dudley of Mississippi) takes over as CEO. And what becomes of the former CEO, Tony Hayward, you might ask? I don't think he will feel much pain from this job loss, as he was let go with a $18 million "golden parachute" compensation package in exchange for him voluntarily stepping down, and word has it that he has been offered a high post in BP's Russian operations, where of course he will be out of the spotlight, so to speak. Strange, isn't it, how mismanagement and ineptitude is customarily rewarded by corporation boards who dole out huge severance packages. Of course he only did everything the board of directors told him to do, so they offer this payola to keep his mouth shut because he knows too much. At the same time, they expect that the American public will swallow their housecleaning scam, and perhaps many people will. After all, the "bad apple" is out of the picture, the leak will be stopped soon, and BP will probably change their name to something less recognizable.

Rick

Yes, that's the question now being asked. See the video at this link:
BP Oil Spill: Where Did All The Crude Go? Mother Nature Breaks Down Slick in Gulf of Mexico - ABC News


Last month, the oil slick was the size of Kansas. Two weeks ago, oil skimmers sucked up more than 25,000 barrels, but last Thursday they only gathered 200 barrels. Overflights are not spotting any significant oil slicks, so where has all the oil gone? The answer lies with the monumental amount of toxic dispersants that were used. Instead of lying on the surface, as it naturally would, the oil has dispersed in the Gulf waters. It is still there, but now it is everywhere in the Gulf region where seawater is found, from the deepest depths to the surface. It is very doubtful that any living creature could survive immersed in this toxic soup. Notice how ABC news plays this up as mother nature effectively handling the problem, with little left to be done by BP, the government, or cleanup crews. What a sham!

Thanks Rick good points there we can make use of.
Oil Subjugation
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I think the reasons that the dispersant was speed was so they can cover it up and its cheaper and results in their profits?

If so Congress wont care
Halliburton Continues to Flood Lawmakers With Contributions After Oil Spill - OpenSecrets Blog | OpenSecrets

You're welcome, Ash. Say, I don't know if someone else may already have pointed this out, but your second link reminded me that Halliburton was the outfit that did the cementing job on BP's failed well. Halliburton had suggested a need for 21 centralizing buttresses in the cementing job, but BP wanted to cut expenses so said that they only wanted 5. Halliburton complied with BP's request, the cement job was inadequate, and that's why it gave out. Halliburton knew the job would be inadequate, and would likely result in failure, so accepting the job on those terms definitely shows criminal negligence on their part. Anything for a buck. Makes me wonder who is doing the new cementing job on this well and the relief well's 2000 foot casing.

Rick

Rick they didn't and i didn't know that thanks man

Ash

I know (direct intel) of 1000 metric tonnes of surfactants having been used by BP, but have not found any info about the product in question indirectly. It's basically industrial strength soap.
Personally, I do believe in mother nature's strength at cleaning up our mess. We are living in the proof. If you spread something as nasty as oil thin enough, it will be broken down by nature. This doesn't mean it doesn't kill nature in the process. It just doesn't kill all of it.
Disclaimer : I wasn't particularly good at biology in highschool.

"Soap" is not a petroleum product. Corexit is. Soap does not kill every living thing in a large area where it is dispersed; and it does not mix with crude oil to form even more toxic volatile compounds (this is the worst danger of it that appears to be totally ignored by everyone including the EPA who have no tests for these exotic volatiles). Soap does not give people headaches and sore throats just from getting whiffs of it. And it does not break down cellular linings causing massive hemorrhaging either.

That stuff will be the death of many thousands of the workers, and many more inland. Just like it killed nearly everyone who worked on the Exxon Valdez, whose average life span was "51 years".

That's true. As a matter of fact, if it was soap, the oil would be emulsified and
would float on the water long enough until it was all scooped up...if it was
an effective enough soap.

I worked with a nanocolloidal soap made of plant fats, etc... and it had the
strongest wetting ability of any soap available. It can microencapsulate
the oil molecules and hold them in suspension to prevent the oil from sinking
at all.

With oil on a beach for example, it can be sprayed on top and super
accelerate the breakdown that would normally take many years.

We did a demo at my friend's house with fresh motor oil on a ceramic tile.
We sprayed the oil and swirled it around the oil for about 45 seconds. It
literally broke the oil down so much so fast that the oil was almost the
same consistency as water.

Anyway, there are a lot of remedies like this but of course all safe solutions
are blocked by insanity.

Pretty insane to call their toxic dispersant Corexit (Corrects It).

@Aaron:
Any experience with sodium dioctyl sulfosuccinate?

Cloxxi,

No, but it looks like it is used in everything from laxatives to corexit.

Corexit encapsulates the oil but not in as small as pieces as the soap
I mention and the oil "corrected" by corexit sinks when it should be
treated with something that prevents it sinking.

I'm no chemist, but that's what was used wither directly or indirectly. A quite similar product is often used for smaller oil spills, say on platforms or at refineries, and actually also in machinework cleaners (dirty greasy drove chains, etc)
An advantage of oil sinking, or to some degree floating in the ocean, in my modest view would be volume vs. surface. How deep is the Gulf? Let's say it's just a few hundred meters. Then still, a hundred meters of water, fow, let's say, on average over the huge Gulf 1mm (exageration) of oil...that's a lot of biochemistry being put to work. The surface is well, superficial.
Also, floating oil seems like it would sufficate the top layers of the body of water?

That ingredient is one of several in corexit so yes it was directly used
but is isn't the only ingredient.

Corexit 9527

The proprietary composition is not public, but the manufacturer's own safety data sheet on Corexit EC9527A says the main components are 2-butoxyethanol and a proprietary organic sulfonate with a small concentration of propylene glycol.[15][16]
[edit] Corexit 9500

In response to public pressure, the EPA and Nalco released the list of the six ingredients in Corexit 9500, revealing constituents including sorbitan, butanedioic acid, and petroleum distillates.[3] Corexit EC9500A is mainly comprised of hydrotreated light petroleum distillates, propylene glycol and a proprietary organic sulfonate.[17] Environmentalists also pressured Nalco to reveal to the public what concentrations of each chemical are in the product; Nalco considers that information to be a trade secret, but has shared it with the EPA.[18] Propylene glycol is a chemical commonly used as a solvent or moisturizer in pharmaceuticals and cosmetics, and is of relatively low toxicity. An organic sulfonate (or organic sulfonic acid salt) is a synthetic chemical detergent, that acts as a surfactant to emulsify oil and allow its dispersion into water. The identity of the sulfonate used in both forms of Corexit was disclosed to the EPA in June 2010, as dioctyl sodium sulfosuccinate.[19] Often referred to as docusate sodium, this chemical is the active ingredient in several stool-softener laxatives.


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The above is from wikipedia, the fake encyclopedia but probably is fairly
accurate.

If all the oil is left to float on top, you know where it is and it can be
scooped up or dealt with in other ways so I think suffocation would be
a non-issue.

Right on. Here's a list of the toxicity present in oil

These charts show why the mainstream media has STILL refused to report on these greater health hazards, and and never mention the word "Benzene". If people started to realize just how deadly "oil" is, they would work in greater numbers to GET RID OF IT.

http://toxgas.com/images/checklist.pdf

The day i have been dreading for a long time now, came. During my daily check of the water here, i took samples of the sea water that had odd tiny globules all through it, with a light "marbled" sheen over the surface. These little globules appear to dissolve when disturbed. Imo, from someone who has been observing this bay for years (and who knows what 2-cycle or Diesel in the water looks like), it is the oil/dispersant mix from the BP Gulf Disaster.

This occurred during the peak of incoming tide, meaning it comes from the Gulf Stream which is about 9 miles out from here.

Called the USCG (... also the local newspaper who didn't want anything to do with it; this town is all about "tourism" and such news is "unwelcome" in the extreme lol, that paper would not even print a letter to the editor i wrote about Fluoride in our public drinking water), and the Coast Guard very promptly sent someone to collect one of my samples (i collected several and am sending another to a different place).

So, it would appear the oil/dispersant mix has indeed reached the Gulf Stream.

Lol i wonder how long i would stay of out jail, if i went to our beaches with a bull horn and told the tourists to get out of the water because it was toxic. Actually, in some ways, since i know the truth of this situation, it is my civic duty to do so... but i will try a few other actions first that are a bit more "survivable" lol; and give the local authorities a chance to act (which will almost certainly fail). An interesting moral dilemma.

I suspect, that the only people who will ever go to jail over this event, are those who attempt to break the silence about the very clear and scientifically proved health risks.

Hi everyone,

Here is the "MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET" for CRUDE OIL - MSDS No. RS296

__________________________________________________ _____________

Material Identity -
Crude Oil

Trade Name(s) -
Oriente, Cano Limon, Line 63, Shell-Ventura, SJV Light, Rainbow, West Texas Inter-Cushing, Peace River-Canadian, Federated Crude-Canadian, Pembina Crude-Canadian, Forcados, Cabinda, Basrah Light, Basrah, Arab Medium,

Other Name(s) -
Earth Oil, Petroleum Oil, Rock Oil, Zafiro

Chemical Description -
This material is a C1 to C50 hydrocarbon liquid which contains approximately .9 to 2.8 wt% sulfur compounds

Manufacturer’s Address -
BP West Coast Products LLC
Carson Business Unit
1801 E. Sepulveda Boulevard
Carson, California 90749-6210

BP West Coast Products LLC
Cherry Point Business Unit
4519 Grandview Road
Blaine, Washington 98230
__________________________________________________ _____________

Take the kids to the beach, and bring a stick to remove the tar balls from their feet .....

Something is wrong with the above statement ..... I'm in Oregon

Regards,
Glen

Jibb,

I'm sure there are some facebook groups for your local area.

Maybe can post the mayor or whatever's contact info with phone and
have everyone call asking why they refuse to tell people about the toxins
that have finally come.

Maybe with some pics or video clips of those globules.

Yes, good ideas Aaron... im workin' on it, got a few connections in local politics that may help and i made some calls and wrote some emails today.

I will keep watching the rising tides (and with luck get some better shots); but i may need to get out to the Gulf Stream on a very calm day and take some samples there, too (if i can find someone i trust to analyze them). The pics i took today could not do it justice, they didn't pick up the fairly dull and thin surface sheen that was only visible when the water was in the shade, and so far these globules are tiny and don't look like anything more than specs about the size of a pea in the water (but when you stir the water they completely disappear; proving they are not organisms or organic materials or anything else "solid"), but there were between 500 to 800 of these specks per cubic meter of water i guess, so it was pretty noticeable.

YouTube - Breaking News: Oil Gulf Air "Unsafe"

YouTube - Dr. Riki Ott: Lessons from the Exxon Valdez for the BP Gulf Oil Disaster

Al

3 oil Spills are in circulation now check the China one out
BBC News - China struggles to recover from 'worst ever' oil spill

Ash

There will be all sorts of counter to the claims against the reality they did it with the gaslands documentary , just got back from a protest about this.

Gasland Debunked:

Gasland Debunked
Energy in Depth
Gasland Fact Sheet
Movie 'Gasland' Stirs More Controversy About Hydraulic Fracturing - Oil and Gas Lawyer Blog


Debunking the debunkers of Gasland
Kevin Grandia: Who Are the Spindoctors Behind the Attack on Gasland?
http://www.damascuscitizens.org/Affirming-GASLAND.pdf
Queensland support Group
Six Degrees | Coal and Climate Change

As of now, 1:07 PM Eastern Standard time, there are no BP live feeds. They just went down, today. right now. There was another wellhead that a rov was monitoring that has been unreported.



Edit - 1 hour later vids are back up. False alarm

This thread is going to get bigger, but not with good news
Jerry Cope: The Crime of the Century: What BP and the US Government Don't Want You to Know, Part I

BTW YOU CAN'T REPLACE OIL WITH OUT HEMP
Why hemp could save the world

WE are growing it on the farm this year.

Ash

YouTube - A Tale of Two Wells (Dedicated to Matt Simmons R.I.P.)

I apologize if this has been posted before. Hope its still there..

Small
Dave

Thanks Dave.

more bad news.

Firsthand accounts and leaked photos of a secret BP processing facility -- possibly for dead animals -- point to a massive cover-up in the Gulf. An exclusive report.
'Death Gyre' in the Gulf | MNN - Mother Nature Network


The Crime of the Century: What BP and US Government Don’t Want You to Know
The Crime of the Century: What BP and US Government Don’t Want You to Know | Alexander Higgins Blog

Lol m8 you beat me to the punch on posting the above

I wanted to make the point, that from MY OWN observations here at my dock showed exactly these same "Little Dots" as stated in that news broadcast (as reported July 29). These "dots" appeared throughout the water column, and appeared bright when lit by the sun, during rising tides. The tide rise here comes from the South, the direction of the Gulf Stream less, 10 miles away.

The government STILL is making the absurd claims that not only has the oil/dispersant mix NOT made it into the Gulf Stream, but that it NEVER WILL....

A bald faced propaganda lie; and i can prove it. Somebody in NOAA or the administration WHO TOLD THEM TO LIE needs to be fired over that, and i won't shut up about it until someone is.

These basterds have been lying all along in the hopes to prop-up Tourism... But they apparently don't care of the people they SUCKER to comes to swim in the Gulf get sick or not... As long as the hotel and restaurant business still does well..

These people who would LIE for this purpose, will be LUCKY to only lose their jobs, and not get jail time for that too... they are DISGUSTING SOCIOPATHS WHO DESERVE PRISON.