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Old 01-02-2010, 02:07 PM
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Post New Magnetic Forces! : Steve Ward

Look into what Steve Ward has done.
When he applies a LOAD, the motor speeds up and used less current.

On his web site it states: "Producing energy is just the start of what I am releasing to the public about this technology. "
Steve Ward is pleading (in the interview below) that people learn about what he has.
He is looking for help, I wonder if he would allow this forum to be involved.

Interview with Steve Ward by Vortex Network News Technology Hour
Nov 14, 2009 at 10:00AM


US patent 7531930 issued 5-12-2009

Videos on his web site.
Energy Ingenuity Homepage
Steve Ward says, I ask anyone to please come visit me and see a live demonstration.

[disclaimer: this member (me), Vortex, is not associated with
Vortex Network News Technology Hour,
we just both picked a great word, Vortex for a name.
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Old 01-02-2010, 02:53 PM
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Hi vortex, that sure looks like Thane Heins Perepiteia generator to me.
peace love light
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Hi vortex, that sure looks like Thane Heins Perepiteia generator to me.
peace love light
Tyson
Tyson,
Yes, it appears at first to be like that, but Steve Ward is using a rubber hose to connect
the motor shaft to the shaft of the generator
and does his tests using
DC not AC, which makes it unlike what Thane Heins Perepiteia is doing.

I'm hoping Steve Ward will come explain to us in more detail what is going
on with his devices. I sent him an email asking him to come by the forum.
I myself am lacking in understanding about some of
the details to know what is what to say much else.

thanks for that observation, Tyson
randy

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Anyone know whether the high-current setup was EM resistance free, before he got a "gain" out of it? Meaning, all just bearing and air friction, nothing more?
Within a range, we see an added load resulting into a reduction of current draw. But would that range go all the way, to the point where the load exceed the input? Probably not, or it would have been demonstrated such, I suppose.
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shorted coils

So he is showing that it has nothing to do with the motor
on the front, it spins a disc with magnets that sweep across coils
like in John's 1984 Machine or Watson machine.

But his coils have a core that is u shaped to span across the diameter
of the rotor to hit 2 magnets at once. One north and one south maybe.

He just shorts the coils on those u cores and that is it.

Many things use shorted coils like Halbach Array levitation train tracks
and the Bob Teal motor - Magnipulsion.

But is usually with a magnet on one side of the core and that is it
and not two on both sides. The levitation tracks have shorted coils that
stay shorted 100% of the time, magnet goes over and it induces current
into the coil that charges the coil causing it to repel the magnet that
was just moved over it.

Bob Teal's were 2 parallel coils that when switched off, they shorted into
each other causing the field to decay slower.

I don't think I've seen a shorted coil demo where there is a magnet at
both sides of the core at time. Not sure what it means yet.

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In one of the videos he says something about steal plugs on the wheel with the magnets.. maybe the u - bar is hitting a magnet at one end and a steal plug at the other end..... interesting....

I hope he comes in and talks with us......

I will have to study the patent more.....

Cool....

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I have considerable experience on this paradox.

If you flux an iron core coil that has enough wire TURNS (say 4000) either the turns are arranged in series (one wire) or in parallel (10 wires of 400 turns) and you increase the frequency from a threshold point and up, then you get the weird effect of applying an electrical load to the coil(s) in passive generator mode and accelarating the whole system.

This is observed at any G-field machine, Thane's Perepiteia and in any similar setup. Note the load must approach total short for best performance. By the way, this accelarations has more to do with vanishing cogging torque, (as if the magnetic attraction of the magnets to core is greatly diminshed) rather than net output.

Many have deemed the phenomenon as if the coils become "magnetic condensers", something inconceivable to me yet. The greatest yet results are obtained if you totally close or semi close the magnetic circuit (eg one magnet north, going to iron connected coils and in turn facing a south pole magnet)

Bottom line, wire turns, flux strength and frequency rule in this event.

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Hi all,

the U shaped cores reminded me too of Thane C Heins's work, and of course the acceleration with a shorted/loaded coil again is T C H to a tee..

hmm...this might get interesting.
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Many have deemed the phenomenon as if the coils become "magnetic condensers", something inconceivable to me yet.
Depending on how they're used like for generator coils on these machines,
the coil can act as a momentary capacitor. I would see Rick F's "self
runner" with the coil that generated over 1000v just like this... it acts
like a capacitor.
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Smile Wardforce

I am Steve Ward and I want to start by talking about the video, "How an EPMC works" found on my blog, because this is something everyone can see. The disc has metal plugs and I am not moving any magnets or coils. This is the first thing noone else does, which is also why the Lenz law does not apply to what I am doing. The second claim, which noone else claims, proves my greater understanding is wardforce. If anyone else had seen the reactions I have, the conclusion would be another part of the magnetic field which is not North or South Poles exists and can be manipulated.

I have used the word, "wardforce" to describe this other part of a mangetic field, which we all know exists. Wardforce can be defined as forward and backward motion, or the push and pull part of the magnetic field, or gravity and what makes the planet move. All of it is the same thing "wardforce"!

I hope this will help everyone understand. The main difference between my technology and others technology. I demonstrate and explain what and how the reactions are caused. It is not energy from nothing! I am using another part of the magnetic field, wardforce.
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Old 01-03-2010, 12:33 AM
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Welcome Steve!

Welcome to Energetic Forum Steve!

Enjoy and feel free to share anything you want. Websites, vids, etc...
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Old 01-03-2010, 12:42 AM
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Glad to have you here Steve

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Hi Steve,

Thanks for sharing you work.
I have some questions:

Is your generator something like Ecklin's Generator? John W Ecklin -- Stationary armature generator -- US Patent 3879633, US Patent 4567407, 12 articles
Peter Lindemann pointed out once that this design didn't work.

I understand that the motor shouldn't speed up according to the Lenz law when you short the coils out, but why don't you demonstrate it by lighting light bulbs or even driving a second motor with the generator output? Is there a some technical difficulty to do this?

Would you show the mechanical efficiency of your device, in two modes: shorted coils, and open coils?

How much is the impedance of your coils?

Edit: I know in my heart that gravity and magnetism share some properties with each-other, I would be glad if you could explain more clearly how you understand their relation.
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@ Aaron,
I did not used the term magnetic condensers in that way. Indeed, a coil, even unshorted develops voltage according to the magnetic field interaction moment. Their is a momement that the instantaneous short of a coil, will induce a relatively current flow through it, and upon disconnect we have the spike. (note the rick's F spark occured upon disconnect and not connect as a normal cap would do)

Bedini talks about it and says shorting should be made (for best spike reasons) when the coil gets "charged".
..
The people that say that (Hector Peres et all), support that the coils in that mode become some short of C (capacitors) literally. I do not elaborate because i do not understand what they mean by that.

...
At Steve Ward.

I am pretty sure you are accustomed with Thane Heins perepiteia setup. I am also sure you know that the shorting of any G-field generator produces speed-up hence low motor input. Load towards total short exhibit this behaviour also.
The current produced must go unimpeded as possible. actually it has been observed by me and others (see Perepiteia thread on Overunity.com) that you can almost exploit the 10% of the virtual power circulating that circuit (amperage at short x voltage at open circuit) without diminishing the effect.

My question, in what sense your setup is different?

Thanks

baroutologos

ps: this peculiar effect however has not been confirmed yet in solid state setups. (transformers) but i do not see reason why not.
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Welcome Steve,

Are you willing to provide detailed information for replications?

Hopes and Dreams......

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Wardforce

One question was about using a light for a load. On one video I show what happens with a lamp load. That was early stages of trying to understanding what is really going on. Now that I understand how the reactions are REALLY caused, I am ready to educate others. I know I can cause the same reactions with a full load or another type load such as a lamp. With a device I show that wardforce exists and I do this in live demonstrations. People don’t believe when I tell them, so I show this only in real life. Maybe if I had a way to make a good video I would consider. As is I rented a camera for the videos shown.

I have been working with physical devices from 1988, I don't have any resources (money, equipment, or personnel) and I have one person helping me with building devices just in 2009. From about 1994 or 1995 I have been working alone, paying for machine work, drafting, experimental test, etc… Some of the devices I have tested were used to build other prototypes, some are still being used for demonstrating and some did not work.

I have a link to my blog on my website, which show 3 videos demonstrating 6 devices, I have an US patent and many witnesses who have seen my claims. I need help with funds, people, resources and the list goes on. I know I need help with this because I am not that smart. I will be posting more information on my site, my blog and this blog as time permits.
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I know I need help with this because I am not that smart. I will be posting more information on my site, my blog and this blog as time permits.
That was a good one, best laugh I have had this year!

Seriously though, make no mistake, you are intelligent, know that. Continue to let your efforts, and more importantly your actions (demonstration of your concepts) speak for you, especially if you have a difficult time communicating your ideas verbally. I'm impressed with what you have demonstrated so far, and I'm positive that I am not alone when I say that!

Awesome way to start off the new year.

Happy New Year to all!


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The disc has metal plugs and I am not moving any magnets or coils.
Steve, that is very interesting!

So, literally, the windings are shorted on a u or c shaped core and nothing
but steel slugs are hitting both ends of the core poles at the same time?

And when shorted, the disc can spin faster?

Maybe that is oversimplified but is that the basic concept?
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Hi Steve,

I went to your web site and watched all three videos on your blog .....

On video #3 I must be very thick because I do not understand what you are proving using a DC motor to spin your device?

The DC motor is providing the torque to spin your device, right?

What is the voltage and amp output of your device at the device end?

Please help me understand what you are trying to show in video #3.....

Hopes and Dreams....

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Hi Steve,

I went to your web site and watched all three videos on your blog .....

On video #3 I must be very thick because I do not understand what you are proving using a DC motor to spin your device?

The DC motor is providing the torque to spin your device, right?

What is the voltage and amp output of your device at the device end?

Please help me understand what you are trying to show in video #3.....

Hopes and Dreams....

Tj
Tj, it might be that there are known issues about metering AC power usage,
see Dangers in measuring AC power with meters and most people (like me )
don't know how to use a high bandwidth digital oscilloscope, let alone read one.
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Hi Steve

Unless, you don't tell exactly how your machine is made or operated, we would not be able to help you, develop your idea.

I studied your patent a bit closely and I understand as you mentioned that your disc (mentioned controller in your patent) has metal plugs and the magnets and coils are fixed, I would assume that your generator is something like Mr Ecklin's Generator, which changes the magnetic flux by moving The Iron, instead of the magnets. I have not tried that design and I cannot comment on that.

You know, you'd better give a better explanation for your Ward-Force instead of the saying that it is the push-pull part of the magnets, what do you mean by that, really? What is the other part if the ward-force is the push-pull part?

I mean, you have discovered the ward force by seeing the effect of it. If you want to share what you have found, I think that it might be better to tell exactly how to produce the effect you are talking about, and does the effect really produce torque or usable electric current, or it simply reduces the drag of the magnets?

If you don't do that, you might be unwillingly confusing people and wasting their time. People have gotten distracted because of so much vagueness, and sometimes given up.

No offence intended, but I highly urge you to respect this people wanting to help you, as all of us undoubtedly respect and of course admire you.


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Similar idea?

I am still a little puzzled - only because of a lack of understanding the set-up;
though there is some little light.

Steve, I would like to do a duplication of this system if you permit; for
observation and report back; NOT to copy and go commercial!

Distance is a problem, I am in Thailand; but now have a fully equiped
lab for electro/magnetic/mechanical/ (even biological) work. Amongst
others I do have all sorts of metal working tools like lathe, milling, welding,
cutting, bending.... So I am offering this facility to do duplication and video
reporting on your device. Already in stock are most of materials one can
wish for. So only labour to go.

I have somewhat of a question:
How much of this sytem does correspond to the PPMT
(ParallelPath Magnetic Technology) of Joe Flynn?

Can see: http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Joseph_Flynn's_Parallel_Path_technology
for more info.

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I'm speaking with Steve Ward by email.
I've spoken with Steve on the phone.
At the point I'll not try to explain anything, because I really don't know
anything yet.

The coils and magnets are stationary and do no move.
I will say this. Think about waves .. magnetic waves .. riding the wave.
A pull in front and a push in back of each wave. The creation of a
wave matters not much upon which way the magnetic pole faces...
Convergence of smaller ripples of flux together to create a larger denser wave.
The rotor has metal plugs, these cause a raise (creation) and fall (collapse)
of the ripples of flux.. these converge to create a wave.

visual, think this water droplet as being a single metal plug in the rotor YouTube - WATER SOUND IMAGES
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I must admit I haven't seen steven ward's videos; my mobile won't display his site very well.

But, I think I get part of the concept.

In this video
YouTube - experiments shielding magnetic fields
I show magnetic shielding; curving the lines of flux into a cramped position.

I also show the magnetic field protruding from a hole in the shielding.

What if we moved the shielding above a stationary magnet?

Rotating magnetic shield - Vox
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Thumbs up " How an EPMC works"

I am using the steel plugs as transmitters. Each time a plug comes by another wave is produced and like I told Randy all waves have push at the top and at the bottom they pull. I will be putting a better description on my website about this wave and how to transmit it sometime before the end of next week. I have been very busy and have not had much time to work on the project, I have to pay bills. I am working alone, so I have to find some side work for making money, which takes more time from working on the project.

To make it clear. Wardforce is the push and pull parts. Poles are North and South parts, now what else is part of a magnetic field? I can tell you, if you cannot see it and you don't know it is there, how can you say something does or does not exists?

PS I hope to post how to make the device on the 3rd video on my site within the next week along with a better explanation. Just remember, THIS IS NOT A CURRENT! It is torque (forward and backward motion)!
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Hi all,

It seems to have a lot in common with patent 7274124 from Bedini,
is that right?

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Hi all,

It seems to have a lot in common with patent 7274124 from Bedini,
is that right?

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Hob, The patent 7274124 by Arthur James Fahy references Bedini, yes.
It does have some similar parts/configuration , yes.
The Fahy device has a ferromagnetic bridge, Steve Ward has used metal plugs.
No brushes are used in Ward's devices. The coils and magnets are stationary
as in the Fahy device.
The above is only my understanding at this point and could be wrong.

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Hob, The patent 7274124 by Arthur James Fahy references Bedini, yes.
It does have some similar parts/configuration , yes.
The Fahy device has a ferromagnetic bridge, Steve Ward has used metal plugs.
No brushes are used in Ward's devices. The coils and magnets are stationary
as in the Fahy device.
The above is only my understanding at this point and could be wrong.

randy
My misstake, thanks for correcting me,
I was searching for Bedini from another angle and this one came up.
Patent 7274124 is definitely by Fahy and not by Bedini.
I must admit I wondered why i havent seen it before

But still, the patents has a lot in common and may help us understanding them both.

/Hob

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Old 01-14-2010, 12:42 PM
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My patent is the first in History claim energy from Magnetic fields. Yes, Magnets are the fuel source. This is not a debate, as I have been demonstrating to many highly educated goups. None of these groups who have seen my demonstration of 3 or more devices have said my claims are not true.

I have not had much time this week to work on my website. I will try to update this weekend with pictures and other information.

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Hmmm.....

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My patent is the first in History claim energy from Magnetic fields. Yes, Magnets are the fuel source.
Sorry but I totally disagree with this statement...

I do a lot of research, and remember coming across a patent which relates to the subject at hand, the "Wardforce". I found this patent about a year ago and lost it in my files, but thanks to you I dusted off my stack of patents relating to this particular technology and found the patent. This patent predates yours by several years.....and has so much in common with your patent that it simply can't be ignored (not by me anyway....) his apparatus is far simpler than anything you have presented, and he makes the exact same claims as you, albeit worded differently... Happy reading...


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US Patent 5191258 - Page 1 Image - Electric current generator including torque reducing countermagnetic field
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