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Old 02-12-2010, 05:28 AM
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Please let me know when you find a way to light a filament bulb (even a tiny one) with the current that flows in the AV-plug's branches.
;-)
@slayer007 - great circuit i've been tinkering with this since you posted it! i matched your "simple exciter" circuit diagram (530u L1 counter clockwise, 4u L2 clockwise, 1N4148 diodes, 2N222 transistor, 1K resistor). My 2N222 isn't getting hot at all, but I added a second transistor since it boosts both the one-wire and wireless output. I'm getting the same behaviors seen in yours and lidmotor's videos (lighting CFL/Neon/LED bulbs and AV plugs, seeing local area excitation of objects, water effects).

@All - I've found one thing I'm able to do that I couldn't with jonny's circuit, I'm able to light a small filament bulb by connecting it's positive to the L1 output and it's negative to the aluminum tape on the cellphone charger casing. I tried it with a larger filament bulb but couldn't get that one to light (both bulbs are shown in the attached image). Not sure how significant this is, the bulb lights to the same brightness when connected directly to the charger output so this is sort of a round-about way of doing the same thing. I was surprised it would work this way though and would be interested to hear any thoughts or comments.

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Old 02-12-2010, 07:16 AM
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Wonderful progress by all

Hi kazm,
;-)
But will this kill the wireless effect? or does the charged field still persist, when you pull that trick?
Well, I can try it myself, I guess, but watching you guys is just too exciting ...

In case the charged field collapses, as the filament bulb gobbles up all the HV from the top of the long coil, ...
maybe one can connect two identical tuned pairs of coils in parallel:
- one L1 feeding a filament bulb or other inductive resistor(s) as in your photo, while
- the other excites the environment
!?

I also like slayer's idea of several concentrically nested L1 coils inside each other.
As long as they all have the same resonant frequency or harmonics of it, I think they will boost/aid/add to each others output, rather than waisting energy fighting each other.
But that will surely require a lot of tuning (or knowledge of the related maths - which I don't have).

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Old 02-12-2010, 09:01 AM
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Hi kazm,
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But will this kill the wireless effect? or does the charged field still persist, when you pull that trick?
Well, I can try it myself, I guess, but watching you guys is just too exciting ...
Both this and jonny's simple sec let you choose how much stays in the circuit and how much gets broadcast wirelessly based on how you configure it. That particular setup funnels almost all the energy down the one-wire into the filament. However, by adding an excitation point (i.e. stainless steel tray) in between the negative of the filament and the foil on the battery i got more wireless output without any visible reduction in light on the filament. I also increased the light output of my AV plug by adding a 10kv trigger coil between my AV plug and it's ground tray (tried the 4kv trigger coils but they did nothing).

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Old 02-12-2010, 11:05 AM
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@ Lidmotor
Great video as alsways.

@Kazm
It looks like your having some great results also.
Thank you for sharing your results.

@All
I'v been tring differant coil setups.
Right now I'm having great results with two L1 coils(going to be three later today).But if you put one L1 coil inside the other(or more) it multiples the voltage.
Also if your using more that 3V on your setup do the tap start.
The tap start is when you connect the 1k resistor to the transistors base for a sec then disconnect it.The exiter will stay running if it's tuned right.
Also compress the L2 coil all most like a pancake coil so it's more compressed.
And fucused on a certain spot on the L1 coil.
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:39 AM
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sorry to have started confusion

Hi Lidmotor,
in your video
YouTube - Slayer Exciter with large coil.ASF
you state that the outer and inner coil have to be wound in opposite direction.
But I think this is not so.

Being insecure, I must have started some confusion, when I initially asked slayer about the winding direction of the coils. I just didn't want to do something wrong.

However, I have just now proved to myself, that the winding direction is not critical, if the ends of the outer coil are connected to the correct electrical polarity (i.e. to plus and to minus).
I did the following:
As I am presently working with an outer coil of just 5 turns (heavy gauge magnet wire) it was no problem to wind two outer coils with identical length of wire and number of turns, for comparison: one with same direction as the inner coil and one with opposing winding direction. I found that they both work, together with the same inner coil.
But each only when connected with the right polarity
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my above statement seems to be disproved, see jonnydavro's posting
regarding coil polarity
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:55 PM
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Here is another short video of another coil test.
I just wanted to document this coil test because it is working so well.
I didn't show it in the video but when you tutch the battery it extends the field even more making the lights brighter.
People be carefull with this thing it bites I got a couple good rf burns off it.
It's not a shock but it's like someone tutched you with a lit cigarette.

Once my test are done I'll upload the circuit with all the specs.

Here is the video.

YouTube - Exiter Coil Test 2

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Old 02-12-2010, 02:13 PM
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I've been following all these various developments for some time now and it's all very exciting. Excellent vid Slayer. One question I have surrounding most of these developments, "Are there any health concerns with all these radiating fields?"

The circuits are small enough that one could build point-of-use devices to light up fluorescents on a 1.5V rechargeable batteries and save a bundle on electricity costs (although lighting is probably the smallest portion of one's electric bill) and/or reduce the capacity needed for off-grid apps.

Great work guys!
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:20 PM
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I've been following all these various developments for some time now and it's all very exciting. Excellent vid Slayer. One question I have surrounding most of these developments, "Are there any health concerns with all these radiating fields?"

The circuits are small enough that one could build point-of-use devices to light up fluorescents on a 1.5V rechargeable batteries and save a bundle on electricity costs (although lighting is probably the smallest portion of one's electric bill) and/or reduce the capacity needed for off-grid apps.

Great work guys!
I have felt no ill effects from this circuit.
Accept if you tutch the end of the coil when your holding a cfl.
You will get a good rf burn but it's not to bad.
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Old 02-13-2010, 02:26 AM
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Slayer Exciter--With ferrite rod tuneable inductor

@ Slayer
I worked with several coil arrangements today and really wasn't happy with any of them until I tried a ferrite rod inside one. That did the trick. You can tune this now just like a SEC-15.

Here is the video of it:
YouTube - Slayer Exciter with tuneable inductor.ASF



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Old 02-13-2010, 02:48 AM
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@ Slayer
I worked with several coil arrangements today and really wasn't happy with any of them until I tried a ferrite rod inside one. That did the trick. You can tune this now just like a SEC-15.

Here is the video of it:
YouTube - Slayer Exciter with tuneable inductor.ASF



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Great Video.
I like how your using such low current and still getting a Great wireless effect.
I have tried a ferrite rod with this circuit awhile back.
But I wasn't getting as good a results as you are with it.
Thanks for showing this, it should help a lot of people with getting this going.
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Old 02-13-2010, 05:52 AM
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@Dr Stiffler

Thank you for your patience with me! I still have a great respect for you and I just try to keep things lighthearted. Sometimes a "failure" might be a success in disguise, but thank you again for that clarifying schematic. You have so much information out there, just to catch up with where you are now would be a full time job. A happy one, but one that wouldn't pay the bills.

I appreciate all the work you have done with Panacea U.

Ive shown the SEC to dozens of people but no one seems to be really interested in it... Strange, how it fascinated me so completely, but its less then a party favor to other people... Its so subtly complex in its operation... maybe I need to get the motor setup working right and start burning some water before I get some interest in my project / your invention. ... so strange how people only follow the money. Can it make you money? they ask.. No I cant sell it! no I wont sell it! so they loose interest. So greedy the average person is... I'm starting to think the only way to save the world is to somehow plant a tree that grows money.

@ everwiser , safety of SEC.
I think the field from a SEC is safer for you then some people first believe. Listening to Dr.Stiffler explain how his radio went out when the sec went into some strange lock-up shows me that the RF from outside was being funneled away from the radio into the SEC device through near-field . Or thats my take on it. Of course if you have metal inside of you that is neccicary for you to live, like a pacemaker, then things get complicated for the electronics of that, but for people without implants, I think the sec field might actually protect you. However, I am interested in a RF absorption suit lined with silver, supposed to block 99% of RF from your body...

Anyway. Thanks again for your patience and much
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Old 02-13-2010, 03:23 PM
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@Dr Stiffler

Thank you for your patience with me! I still have a great respect for you and I just try to keep things lighthearted. Sometimes a "failure" might be a success in disguise, but thank you again for that clarifying schematic. You have so much information out there, just to catch up with where you are now would be a full time job. A happy one, but one that wouldn't pay the bills.

I appreciate all the work you have done with Panacea U.

Ive shown the SEC to dozens of people but no one seems to be really interested in it... Strange, how it fascinated me so completely, but its less then a party favor to other people... Its so subtly complex in its operation... maybe I need to get the motor setup working right and start burning some water before I get some interest in my project / your invention. ... so strange how people only follow the money. Can it make you money? they ask.. No I cant sell it! no I wont sell it! so they loose interest. So greedy the average person is... I'm starting to think the only way to save the world is to somehow plant a tree that grows money.

@ everwiser , safety of SEC.
I think the field from a SEC is safer for you then some people first believe. Listening to Dr.Stiffler explain how his radio went out when the sec went into some strange lock-up shows me that the RF from outside was being funneled away from the radio into the SEC device through near-field . Or thats my take on it. Of course if you have metal inside of you that is neccicary for you to live, like a pacemaker, then things get complicated for the electronics of that, but for people without implants, I think the sec field might actually protect you. However, I am interested in a RF absorption suit lined with silver, supposed to block 99% of RF from your body...

Anyway. Thanks again for your patience and much
It is indeed a shame that many people can not think beyond what is already in front of their eyes. The ability to visualize rather than 'patronize ' would be a decide advantage in understanding that SEC is for the most part unlimited, Scalar in general.

I always go back to and side with a quote by Dr. P. Petersons wife about the educational systems, a somewhat caustic yet true view and twist on 'No child left behind', rather Dr. Peterson wife's saying as told by Dr Peterson is 'No child left with a mind'.
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Old 02-13-2010, 04:05 PM
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Hi folks, Hi slayer, i replicated your simple circuit exciter setup with a long coil like yours i had built awhile back, i can light a 30 string of christmas led's to almost full brightness and a 3 watt fluoro tube. using 2n2222 a couple in parallel, though at 4.8 volts inout when outer 16 turn 18 gauge coil is tuned for max brightness on both the heat rises in transistors, already fried a couple. Will have to sort out this heat issue. Is the cell phone charger output straight dc like using my 4 nimh. Anyway thanks for the circuit, it has interesting effects.
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Old 02-13-2010, 05:35 PM
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Hi folks, Hi slayer, i replicated your simple circuit exciter setup with a long coil like yours i had built awhile back, i can light a 30 string of christmas led's to almost full brightness and a 3 watt fluoro tube. using 2n2222 a couple in parallel, though at 4.8 volts inout when outer 16 turn 18 gauge coil is tuned for max brightness on both the heat rises in transistors, already fried a couple. Will have to sort out this heat issue. Is the cell phone charger output straight dc like using my 4 nimh. Anyway thanks for the circuit, it has interesting effects.
peace love light
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Hello SkyWatcher

Yes the cell phone chargers put out a little more than 5.5 v DC.
With my setup the transistors don't get hot at all.
But the current intake is still a little high around 60 to 140 mA.

You may also want to try disconnecting you resistor after it's started it might help with your heat issue.

Still tring differant coil setups but so far the one in my last video is the best so far.

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Old 02-13-2010, 07:05 PM
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In this video I just wanted to show that you can run the lights and still capture the BEMF from the circuit without affecting the lights. It actually makes the lights a little brighter and it should reduce the current intake a little if you use the positive source for your negative charge.

Here is the video.
YouTube - Exiter BEMF Test.mov
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@ Marxist
You were right about the coil winding direction. I tried several coils today and it a polarity thing. A clockwise or counterclockwise will work.

@ Slayer
I'm going to have nightmares tonight about these crazy coils. I worked with all kinds of shapes and sizes today and finally fiddled with one that would light up 12 leds on 5.5 volts at 6mA. That is about what Doc's NILS circuit runs at. My final thought was that it depends on what you want that determines the coil design. One coil design won't do it all.
Your latest finding that you can get BEMF charging off this is great.

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Old 02-14-2010, 06:30 AM
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understanding

@Lidmotor,
thanks for your confirmation that any combination of winding directions of the two coils will work.
edit/addition @ all,
regarding coil polarity see also jonnydavro's posting
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....My final thought was that it depends on what you want that determines the coil design. ...
I agree, and I find this important. If I am not mistaken, kazm observed a similar phenomenon and put it like this:
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Both this and jonny's simple sec let you choose how much stays in the circuit and how much gets broadcast wirelessly based on how you configure it.
I guess that means that "you can't get it all" from one unit. If we want to maximize all effects, we will probably have to use a daisy chain of 2 or more exciters as Dr Stiffler shows in one of his videos.

@slayer007
Thanks for the video YouTube - Exiter BEMF Test.mov
Yes, you mentioned the importance of "capturing the BEMF' before, but I did not understand and still have difficulties to get it

Do you do it like this in your video:

Connect anode of a diode to collector of transistor
connect cathode of diode to capacitor
and connect the other side of that cap to the minus of the battery to make the cap fill up?

Is this the way? Please confirm.

And I also don't understand this:
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....use the positive source for your negative charge.
!?

edit: also want to report that I can light (not fully) a 18W fluorescent tube from my little setup by maintaining a supply voltage above 5 V. The 9 V block I had used initially was just too depleted to accomplish that.
I have also upgraded my arsenal by building a Dr. S. field strength meter using 3 diodes per branch, according to his video:
YouTube - DIY Coherence Field Strength Meter
I only deviated from the design he shows insofar as I did not put any metal object to the tip of the probe. The tip of my field strength meter is just constituted by the two joined leads of the first pair of diodes.

That field strength meter makes it easy to see, that when the fluorescent tube comes on, the remaining strength of the field goes down, as if the field was sucked into the fluorescent tube ...

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Old 02-14-2010, 12:07 PM
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Hi folks, heres a pic of slayer's replication so others can see, also the heat doesnt seem to be as evident today, seems the heat shows up if tuned improperly and i disconnected the base resistor after start so that may be helping.
peace love light
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Old 02-14-2010, 03:01 PM
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Hi folks, had an idea to take slayers simple exciter setup and build a large table top coil a foot in diameter by a foot or so tall using something like sonotube concrete formers. I have enough 24 gauge wire for this and will be testing this idea. Maybe a large diameter will yield greater results. just a thought.
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Old 02-14-2010, 10:46 PM
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Hi. Today was the first chance i have had to build slayers circuit and a mighty fine circuit it isI used 26swg enamel wire about 560 turns on a cardboard roll wound anticlockwise and 13 turns of bellwire for L2 wound clockwise.
The circuit fired up first time which is always a good sign and will light neons and fluorecents and lots of leds.
I seem to be able to get quite a broad range of current draw from 20mA up to 200mA but anyone who has experimented with these sec circuits will atest that high amp draw does not necessarily mean bright lights as it is all about tuning anyway i found fluorecents would light at 140mA AND leds were blazing from 20mA but there is not much point going past 60mA as they can't get any brighter although you may be able to light more.
I see marxist and Lidmotor have been experimenting with the polarity and winding directions of the coils.The setup i have will work with the outer coil connected either way and same with L1 but the interesting thing is with the two possible combinations of the outer coil.In position 1 i get amp draw from 50mA TO 200mA and in position 2 i get amp draw of 20mA TO 90mA.
I am quite pleased with this first coil but what i like about this design is that there is always a performance increase to be found with some clever coil designs.Great work everyone and skywatcher,build that coil as it sounds like a great idea to me .Jonny
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:36 PM
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Great work guys. Kazm,Marxist,Lidmotor,SkyWatcher,Jonnydavro.
This is great seeing everyone replicate this.
And it looks like your all having very good results also.

Here is the circuit I have been using.
Notice I also have a diode going from the negative side of the capacitor back to the positive side of the batery.
It's not really needed but the capacitor also has a big field around it.And I was just trying to send it back to the source battery thru the negative side of the capacitor.
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Old 02-15-2010, 03:04 AM
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Great light output !

Very impressive new circuit Slayer !!!
You can light a 40 W tube so easily

Seeing the bright red light from the cellphone charger, you might be using few hundreds mA.

What if you add a joultief and capacitor to bring the voltage IN to 20 Volts ?!?
You will light 2 or 3 tube of 40W at full brightness I am sure

speculation : IN = 20V x 250 mA = 5W
OUT = 3 x 40 W of light ...

I think you just found a new amazing circuit !!
You guys are inventing the future

PS: It looks that it will be the cheapest/easiest circuit to produce for poor population.
Here, in Cambodia and neighboring countries, millions people are using 12V car batteries to get some light in their houses, few hours in the evening.
A kit (cable + clips + transformer/oscillator + 15W CFL) costs 2 USD, made in Vietnam. Yes I know it seems incredibly cheap. I will soon get a picture of such kit.
Lighting such a 15W CFL or tube from 1 or 2 AA batteries would be a important improvement. Actually they have to carry the 12V car batteries, and charge them every other day at the shop.
If we could get the same power/duration from small AA, it would be the invention of the decade !!!
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Old 02-15-2010, 04:20 AM
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Replication of Gbluer / Lidmotor JT Exciter

Cheers to you guys,
I have replicated the coil and with combination of ferrite rod from Lid motor I was successful with the cell phone charger pwer supply
It lasted for four hours with the following load
one 8 watts Osram fluorescent light
one Led with 6 in series
7 leads in series each with 6 parallel ( tnx to jeannacav)

Construction
29 ga 500T CW using a bamboo flute 40 cm long and 1,2 mm dia
18 ga 18 T CCW using the case of lamp starter
1 1k resistor
1 MPSA 06 or 2N2222 or 2N 3094
dIODES 4148
using the battery charger of Dodoshlodo JT 06 to charge my alkaline batteries
I will try the capacitor installed by Gbluer
In the Philippines 95% of fires are caused by unattended lit candles
Poor students still use candles or oil lamps for night studies
Hope to bring this to them thru all your efforts
Mabuhay Lon live ViVA A Million thanks
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Old 02-15-2010, 02:59 PM
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Hi folks, was running some more tests with slayers simple exciter setup and noticed as did Dr. Stiffler in regard to battery charging that after i attached another lead to feedback coil output to a large painted metal christmas container, i am getting capacitive coupling to the input battery and it is charging it. If i set the battery right on it the voltage in the battery sky rockets but setting it a certain distance shows the -symbol on volt meter meaning its being back fed more more voltage than is going into circuit, at least thats what im seeing.
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Old 02-15-2010, 03:32 PM
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"A Million thanks"---to the replicators---all of us

@Totalas
I'm very glad that you made this latest circuit like you did. It sounds like where you live a light like this would really help.
Someone awhile back told me of a scifi story he was picturing where in the future the dominant tribe that survived after a giant global disaster, was the one that had a bunch of small hardy efficient lights that allowed them to read at night. That gave them an edge. They became more educated than the other tribes.

@Stephenafreter
Cambodia sounds like it really needs this kind of light also. If this could be mass produced and sold cheap enough, think of the thousands if not millions of people it could benefit. An inexpensive high efficiency solar charger to charge the AAs is another project we should work on.

@All replicators
Well done. Now make it better.

Lidmotor
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Old 02-15-2010, 03:57 PM
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an other replication

Hi all
here is my replication of the Slayer007 sec exciter
I used a tip3055 and 12 volt gel cell, tryed smaller transisters but this one works better for my setup.
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Old 02-15-2010, 06:41 PM
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Great work people!

Most of us wouldn't give a thought to having light at night. We get upset when the power is off for a few hours. This could truly be of great significance to the very poor of the world. True it isn't a black box that can supply them with the amount of power we are used to, but it is a great start. Like Lid I agree that recharging batteries with solar should be an important part of it. Save them having to buy automobile battery, then paying to have it recharged or having to buy so many 1.5v batteries. Plus the safety matter of not having an open flame.

I really hope that someone can make this available to all those around the world that need this. Makes you wonder why something like this wasn't developed years ago. No money in it maybe? Or did it just need you guys?

Way to go. What a great gift.

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Old 02-15-2010, 08:23 PM
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@All - I've found one thing I'm able to do that I couldn't with jonny's circuit, I'm able to light a small filament bulb by connecting it's positive to the L1 output and it's negative to the aluminum tape on the cellphone charger casing. I tried it with a larger filament bulb but couldn't get that one to light (both bulbs are shown in the attached image). Not sure how significant this is, the bulb lights to the same brightness when connected directly to the charger output so this is sort of a round-about way of doing the same thing. I was surprised it would work this way though and would be interested to hear any thoughts or comments.
Quick update, I've managed to get the larger filament bulb working, it needs a ferrite core and a base resistance of 6k. this is a bit more interesting since i'm not able to light this bulb directly from the battery as with the smaller filament. i'm doing this with slayer style coil, but also got it going with jenna's toroid using a .65H/2.6MH L1/L2 ratio, continuing to experiment with that.

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Old 02-15-2010, 11:17 PM
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Hi.I tried a few experiments with Slayers new circuit today and made a quick vid.
I used a piece of ferrite rod with some 26swg mag wire wrapped around for the L2 coil and this would allow the circuit to run on low current using the phone charger.The range was 4mA up to about 30mA and light leds great.
This left the original L2 free to use as a pick up coil and produced 12v from one leg of the coil,rectified through a bridge.This may have some use regarding battery charging etc.
Also,Do you think its a good idea if i move all the circuit diagrams to the first post on the first page so people can find them easier?Jonny
YouTube - slayer sec experiments
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Old 02-16-2010, 03:13 AM
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Local Light Kit

Hi, as promised, pics of the local south-east asian light kits.

Both are sold 2 USD each (two dollars only !!)

- one is for a 10W fluo tube, from 12V battery. It has 2 transistors in //
the cap is 50V

- the other is a 15W compact fluo, from 12V. It has only 1 transistor
the cap is 16V only

There are many different models, made in thailand, or vietnam or china ...
Thai is the best local quality.

I don't have car battery nor meter to test them, but I might buy some next week and give you some data to compare with super-efficient circuits that you are investigating here

Thanks and good luck,
david G.
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