Hi folks, Hi slayer. this graph from Joseph Newman's book should explain some things, though the energy increase is probably from other additional interactions.
peace love light
Tyson

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Hi everyone,
I soldered 10 AA batteries in series and connected the 10 Watts Fluorescent Tube Kit, the kind they use here with car batteries.


So I had 15 Volts. The light went dead after 1 hour and 2 minutes !

So 10 AA = 10 Watts of light for 1 hour.

(actually the tube was full bright for around 30 minutes only)


# So if one of your circuits can light a 10 Watts tube for 1 hour, using 1 AA battery, then it will be already 10 times more efficient than the standard circuit sold in the market place


# ... Of course if you can get 5 hours of running time (as I heard is possible) with 1 AA and a 10W tube, then your circuit will be 50 times more efficient !!! Saving 98% of the energy !!!


# I also tested with 2 x 9 Volts batteries, and the light went down after ... 8 minutes only !!

# I plan to find the elements to test with 10 AA rechargeable 2500 mAh SANYO batteries, then we will have a better idea of the ratio time/power

# I have no Ameter, no coated wire to make these simple circuits (Dr Stiffler, Jonnydavro, Slayer007) ... but I hope to move to the capital city next week where I should be able to find more supply ...

It's amazing to leave in the countryside of a third world country, because tehre is NOTHING to buy ) no choice of transistors, batteries, resistors, coils, meters ; you might just find some second hand parts taken form old TVs, and it's sold at a high price !

By the way it's already 3 millions people that live on boats on the Mekong river, and they don't have electricity, they use car batteries ...
In the countryside also, many are using 1 car battery for the all house.

In the all world it is hundreds of millions of families that would be happy (very happy) to get access to such "FREE ELECTRICTY" or super saving circuits.

Some families spend 25% of their income to pay for electricity ... Yes, 25%, in slums where it's so dark and dangerous that you NEED light, and for your kids to make their homeworks. They earn 50 USD per month and pay 12 USD for the electric bill !!!

Thanks for you great work, and I hope we can find a solution with our group effort, and your smart minds )

David

I think you may find the Juole thief topic at: Free Energy Alternative ZeroPoint Green Tesla Power Open Source Research Forum OverUnity.com
has much information about lighting fluorescent bulbs. But, you should be aware that just because the tube appears lit, this does not mean it has full brightness.

Slayer,
Ive compared your circuit for the diode connection to the caps and charging
with Radiant Joule Thief charge by Dodoshlodo
Ps Check the video response by Theiron stark ..
I ve been using this circuit to fast charge my car 12 v lead acid battery using a 9 V battery whenever i forget to swith off my head light at night
Maybe this can be incorporated as an emergency tool to charge all kinds of batteries with less time consumed

Cheers

What you speak about is good info ...but
i see magnet orientation effects the circuit .. Hello .. circuit
Tuning by changing the physical location/direction the magnet is in
relationship to the circuit. We've seen this before, but never with a scope
read out to see that direction (north/south) orientation also matters.

See what i'm babbling about here YouTube - MOV00108.MP4
(video source is link above posted by braden)

Extend the distance between the north/south poles by using a metal rod,
which could vary the effect upon the circuit in a different way than using
the magnet alone, .. ,

randy

I don't know if discussion of the 2Sgen is off topic for this thread or not. I would like to find out what the similarity is between the -Orbo effect- of the 2sGen and the Spacial Energy Coherence effect of Dr. Stifler. Stifler's circuit involves a pair of coil wraped magnets, and the "SGen a coil wraped Nanoperm toroid that is magnatised and demagnatized by the coil wraps. I studied hundreds of pages of Stoern Orbo and SS orbo thread over at the Overunity site. I am confident that the 2SGen is fliping the magnetic field to the inside of the Toroid and out again, and that this field flip is what generates the power in the output coil. The rate at which the Toroid material magnatizes and demagnatizes and the strength of the residual flux are important, and rely on new age nanocrystaline manufacturing technology. M-H and B-H curves along with B and H field characteristics of the core material are important to an understanding of the effect. One would have to rotate a bar magnet to get the charging effect of a field flip. The startling difference is, there is no Lenz drag nor resistance loss in the solid state field flip generation of electric power. We witness similar effects of increased load not increasing input when additional LED's are positioned in range of the SEC field. Perhaps it's within the scope of this thread to speculate on these comparisons. I would really like to hear from Dr. Stifler on this subject.

Hi I did an experiment today using slayers circuit,rejigged slightly,exploring different ways of setting up the feedback for the transistor.
I did this by winding the L2 coil onto a ferrite torroid and wound another coil onto the torroid which was connected to the base and then to L1.
I first tried this setup on the 1.5v phone charger and it would light leds for fun and fire of neons but i could not get it to draw over 105mA and this tube i have seems to light at 140mA so i upped the voltage to 12v with a rheostat for adjustment and it worked wirelessly at 65mA draw.
I am wondering if we can ramp the voltage up by increasing the turns on the torroid as it is also acting as a transformer.
I am pretty sure this will work with the 1.5v charger with a bit of adjustment to the windings.Here is a vid of tonights experiment.Jonny

YouTube - slayer sec with toroid feedback

Just a suggestion. Take it for what it is worth.

stephenafreter (David) - posted an excellent photo above of his set up. So often when lights are photographed or videoed, the camera is aimed right at the light and the light right at the camera. The camera then auto adjusts to the light and everything else goes dark. The way he has his light aimed at the wall and the floor gives a much better indication of the amount of light being produced.

I'll shut up now. I just was pleasantly surprised by his photo. Has to do with what I do for a living.

@sodpa
Thank you for the compliments Even on that pictures the camera doesn't show the truth !! Actually the ends of the tube are gray, and not illuminated like on the picture ! I can't get the real effect with my camera

Yo are right, I try to find a way to quantify the light output without a luxmeter, because here I can't find one, and like I am moving very often, I don't dare to order one from the web, because I might be in another place when it will arrive ...

So I do with what I have What it's impressive is that 10 AA batteries ran this tube only 1 hour, while we see Slayer, Doc Stiffler, Lidmotor and others running such amount of light, even more, for hours with small batteries.
All I could do, having no access to magnet wire to make coils, was to use this 10W tube with it's starter circuit for 12 V battery, sold in the market place.

# Now I have also some lamps with 32 LEDs and 40 LEDs that I plan to test the same way. Seeing how long they work with a specific kind of battery, as sold on the market place.
Then, on second stage, I plan to connect the same lamps on the super-efficients circuits that I hope to be able to experiment next week when I will be in the capital city, where they sell magnet wire and electronic stuff

10 AA batteries giving 1 hour of 10W light is not surprising, it is what I expected before trying. My raw calculation was : 10W / 12V = 0.8A
These standard batteries have a capacity around 1,000 mAh, so it's around 1 hour of power at 0.8 A ...
Then it gives 6 minutes of 10W light per battery (60min/10AA), and I think that it is very easy to overpass with this super-efficient circuits !!!

Sorry for this long post, I will now on, only post objective data. Thank to all for your open hearted attitudes
David G.

Hey folks I finally got a coil circuit wound and am proud to show it here after so much chatting. I had to study up a bit and ran across a circuit that looked familiar to some of the JT's...so here it is all messy but I had alot of fun with it...it's been running for two days now and I hope to make something of it just not sure where to go next...Possibly a trickle charger.It uses .0009 to .003 amps i think its got a long way to go but i'm pleased with it. I modified the coil a little from the specs in the book not sure what it did to the performance overall (wish i still had a scope if ya know what i mean)
What does a larger diameter coil do?

YouTube - Rfmicrocharger

Hi every one..... I did a small test today with a larger L1 coil, it is 8.5 inch diameter. the number of turns is the same as my first L1 and L2 coils. the result was rather dismal, so I would suggest trying smaller coils ( 4 - 6 inch ) but having a much higher number of turns for L1 , the number of turns seems to be more of a factor then the size of the coil

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Hi folks, Hi serfer5. thanks for trying out a bigger coil, ive been meaning to but dont have a former that large. Are you sure coil L2 (primary) is low enough in resistance to drive the circuit sufficiently since the primary is now much longer and has more resistance. Could you try a thicker gauge primary. just a few thoughts.
peace love light
Tyson

The L2 coil is 10 turns of 18ga at around 0.1 ohm and if I read the meter right, it is about 50 uH (0.05 on the meters 200 mH scale ). The bulb would light near the L1 coil but diminish going inward or outward from the coil but would stay lit inside the center of the coil but very faint.

I am going to try an L2 with 3 turns which may bring it back to the performance of my smaller L1 coil but not much in gain I suspect.

@ jonny, nice vid

I tryed the 3 turns for L2 for the large coil and I can say that I now have a tesla coil with the smell of ozone filling the air and a 1/8 spark off L1 to a flow tube, current was about 500 ma. easy way to make a tesla coil but not what were after. the flow tube was well lit but not full brightness like in slayers007 vid

jonny i've been working with a similar setup using the big 3 1/4 inch toroid from my jeanna's light replication and i'm able to light a 20w tube or 22w halo solid (no interference patterns) using the 1 aa cellphone charger. it will also light an un-modified led bulb to full brightness (and i do mean full, it matches wall output), and keep a candelabra filament bulb steadily lit (although only enough to make the filament glow, light output is very little). The 20w CFL is very picky about the resistance and will not work over 1k.

I've got the diodes on the positive and negative rails (as shown in slayer's diagram) going to a fuji camera capacitor, then to an led bulb. with a 20w CFL tube on L1 i'm getting a constant 130v on the cap with no load. when i connect an un-modified led bulb to the cap it lights dimly and the cap drops to 90v. when i use a modified bulb the bulb lights more brightly and the cap drops to 50v. I tried using 2 cellphone chargers in series for 12v, it doesn't seem to change anything on the L1 output but there is more BEMF on the positive/negative rails. if i let the cap load up to 130v then connect to the filament bulb it lights up very brightly for a few seconds, fully discharging the cap in the process.

i just took my already-wound jeanna's light toroid, removed all but the big winding to use as L1, then added a 75 turn L2 and removed turns while observing performance until i hit the sweet spot (50 turns), at which point i'm seeing the stuff above plus wireless behavior. L1 is .6H, L2 is .03H.

Re: connecting the toroid to the helical coil: I put my 20w tube inside the helical coil and connected the toroid's L1 output to L1, leaving the other end of L1 free. I then connected a croc clip to one end of the L2, leaving the other end of L2 free. The other end of the croc clip then went to the LED bulb with the other end of the bulb going to ground. This lit up the LED bulb to about 90%, and also lit the CFL (i'm attaching a rough circuit diagram). The output is the same if I do the opposite (toroid output to helical L2, helical L1 to LED bulb). Attaching the free ends of L1 and L2 to either side of the CFL will keep it lit outside of the helical tube. If I use only 1 winding (either L1 or L2) and ignore the other I get maximum light output to the LED bulb and the CFL doesn't light.

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I found another way to evaluate the light output curve versus time.
I put the light in front of a solar panel and I measure the voltage output of the panel.

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I ran 40 LEDs in // from 3 AA batteries (1.5V) in series.
After 30 minutes light output was 25% less, after 2 hours it has reduced by 50% and after 5 hours it was less 75% from the starting.

I will try the same setup when I'll get my replication of Slayer's Coil, running 40 LEDs in series, seeing the evolution of the brightness versus time, and how long it will work from 3 AA batteries.
Thanks,
David

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Hi, found pictures of a Tesla Coil lighting Fluoresent Tubes :
Teralab - Small Tesla Coil


Slayer's Coil, IMHO, is an improvement/modification of a Tesla Coil, running at low voltage (not needing High voltage circuit), not making sparks, not needing spark gap, and self resonant (not needing pulse circuit) because of the connexion of the secondary coil to the base of the transistor, giving the feed back impulse !!!

An example of circuit that need little modification to do like Slayer's one !
Just suppress the 555 circuit and connect secondary to base of transistor:
SOLID STATE TESLA COIL WITH 555 TIMER | Circuit Project Electronic


Amazing discovery Slayer007 !! It's a full new device by itself, and I don't want to reduce it's importance by comparing it to Tesla's coil.
David

I had a few Emails from people saying they couldn't view the circuit on the forum.
So here is a video of it showing the circuit.
And I'm also showing the current draw from the cell phone charger that is around 50 mA.
If you dont have one of these phone chargers it will also work great off a 6v battery.
But the little AA batteries are easy to charge and can even be charged with an outside yard light that has a small solar cell on it.
Let it charge during the day and it should run the light all night long.

Here is the video.
YouTube - Exiter Circuit And Current Draw.mov

@slayer007
Can you try to do an experiment? use and AV plug on the ends of the neon (the end of the L1 go to a diode on a end of the neon, and another one on the other end of the neon) and put a compass near the neon and see if the compass moves when the neon is lit.

I was watching a Stanley Meyer video on google and he was talking about magnetized gas and I was thinking this may be the case on your setup as well...

Thanks for all your experiments.

I tried as you asked the compass had no effect by the neon or by the coil.

@ All
I got the circuit to run on indirect sunlight using a small solar panel and no battery. I also got it to transmit a signal to a nearby radio. I could tap morris code on it and send out a very nice SOS! HELP!---now where do I put the mic in the circuit????

YouTube - Slayer Exciter --Indoor solar powered radio transmitter.ASF

Lidmotor

Great video lidmotor.

I like how this circuit can run off very low voltage and current from a dead 1.5v battery to a fully charged 12v battery.
I left a comment in your video I'd like to see someone with a good earth battery try running this.

My bigger coil will run from under 2.5 mA to around 150 mA.
It depends on the voltage used and the size of the L2 coil.

I also made a bigger coil yesterday 4" diameter 16" long.
The performance is around the same as the 3.25" by 14" coil.
But I did notice the bigger coil works a lot better for the wireless receiver tower.

I'll have to make a video later of this running off a 9v battery the field is so strong it will even light a 20w fl off the field around the battery.

I don't have a good earth battery to try this on.
But I made two small water batteries with zinc and copper running in series going into a small capacitor.
It dosen't have enought power to keep the light lit but it will keep blinking.

I'm also running it off a 9V battery and lighting a 20w FL off the field around the battery.

Here is the video.

YouTube - Exiter running off water battery.mov

Hi Kazm.When i was doing this experiment ,i was thinking about using Jeanna's toroid in this design and was going to ask someone to try it as i haven't found a source for these large toroids in the uk and i am also pants at winding them so the fact that you have already done this is great syncronicity and your circuit is the same as mine with the addition of your use of slayers L2.The results you have are great also especially regarding the led bulbs as i personally think leds are the best load for these exciters.
Regarding tuning your circuit.Have you found that the output and performance is the same,every time you start it up and it is not drifting out of tune and maybe we can put a variable inductor in there for fine tuning and also is there any chance of making a vid of your experiment?Nice work .Jonny.
@Slayer.Nice idea with the water battery.Have you considered Lemons and i am being serious.
@LidmotorGreat video's Lidmotor.Radio has a lot to do with these circuits and is the key to long range wireless transmision.Jonny.

Hi.Here is a pic of an experiment i did with Slayers sec.
I was in my local superstore when i saw a 2 litre bottle of water for 13 pence so i thought about Lidmotors experiments with water and decided to make a water core coil.
The results were the water basically kills the output from the coil but the good news was when i emptied it out,the coil worked great.
I also wound an L3 coil on the bottle and just rested that at the top of the winding and that will light one of those flicker flame neons which are a lot harder to light than the standard neon's.If i can get some distilled water i will try the water core again.Jonny.

I've been following this topic for a while now and hopefully will be recreating the circuit within the next week or so.

Slayer: Have you tried putting a magnet down into the large L2 coil to see if it increases output?

Also, I've been wondering, I've heard Dr. Stiffler say that his circuits are not RF, they're a different kind of energy, but I haven't been able to find out what RF is exactly or what the difference is, does anybody know of any links on this topic?

Try Dr. Stiffler's homepage.

Hi .I discovered a strange modification which significantly reduces the current draw on both my Simple sec exciter and also Slayers exciter and may be worth trying on a joulethief.This is what i did.I added an extra transistor and connected the collector of the new transistor to the base of the original and the base of the new transistor to the originals emmiter and left the new transistors emitter floating.The current draw drops by over half and output is not realy effected.Whats more is you can keep adding transistors like so and the current draw comes down with each addition.If anyone has any thoughts on why this floating transistor is having this effect i would be really interested.
I have also had a think about the wireless transmision aspect of these circuits and come up with an updated simple sec reciever circuit but it works equally well with slayers exciter.
I am getting an led to light at over 2 meters distance.
I also did an experiment with slayers exciter and got it lighting an led on a vinegar battery so i think the lemon is a go'er .
Here is a vid of todays experiments and circuit diagrams of power saving mods and wireless reciever circuit update.Jonny

YouTube - Modified simple sec and long range wireless transmision

I recently purchased 2 4kv and 2 10kv trigger transformers that have me confused. All 4 are wired such that pin #4 is open to the other pins, pins #1 and #3 are dead shorted, and pin #2 has equal resistance to both pins #1 and #3. This does not correspond to the schematics that I have seen utilizing trigger transformers. Am I missing something or are my transformers inappropriate?

Michael L

Jonny,
my guess is that you experience maybe a negative resistance effect.

Transistor as negative resistor

Floating transistors can do that, you can even chain many of them in that fashion.
Keep it up,
Xenomorph