Nightwind I agree with you that till now no one had done this circuit other than Zilano. To build an OU device it's not that simple. It would be good if we can build a device that can light on a 1kw heater atleast this winter
Thanks and Merry Christmas to all

See translation below quote!
Translation:
Top line:
Experimental Schematic of the Thief Generator (2009.12.25)

Switches:
CTO∏ = Stop
∏YCK = put in operation

Bottom lines:
Working principles:
1. Average wave impulse > 3 KV
2. Frequency of the module 0,05 – 10KHz
Notes: The capacitors C1, C5- C7 need a voltage not below 4KV
(Explanation from the translator: letter "p" in Russian means the letter "r" so "Tp" corresponds to "Tr" = transformer)
(Tr.1 in the connetction (translator ???) = 30mm, Tr.2 transformer with a voltage of 220/15V)
Literature: E.P. Bornobolokow and W.W. Fronow: Schematics for Eadio Enthusiasts,Technical publications: 1985 (pages 77,80 und 191)

Two simple oscillators - both closed circuits.
Ferrite and iron cores ?
Cannot be OU unless Tp.1 or Tp.2 had especial construction or formula and was transmutating or energising electron spins in an unusual manner !

Too good to be true. A perpetual motion machine was never created. This machine doesn't even have a chance of ever working no matter what you do.

The earth has a very weak negative charge but you can't place a wire on the ground and expect anything to happen. The electric charge itself means nothing since work happens due to an imbalance of positive and negatively charged ions. Once there is an elimination of opposite ions where only positive or negative are left in a system, then no work can be done. This is much like a difference in temperatures between objects. Once thermal equilibrium is reached, no work can be done.

The video is lying. None of those machines have produced electricity from nothing.

All of these blueprints and still nobody has managed to produce a single working machine. Please make a machine already! Collect your nobel prize and go into the history books.

In that case 100s and thousands of witnesses doctors and Phd s are telling porkies and there is little more to be said .. however I doubt a Phd would want or feel the need to lie!

Ok, let's say someone "found' a perpetual motion machine. Why not reveal the blueprint to the machine and have other people replicate it? Why aren't the machines people make not perpetual even though they follow the blueprint letter by letter??

Sure, 100s of people witnessed "perpetual motion" machines. You know, the machines that have secret batteries inside of them or wires secretly powering them?

Please MAKE A MACHINE and collect your million dollars + nobel prize.

You have all the tools at your disposal and hundreds of supposed perpetual motion machine blueprints and you still can't make a perpetual machine.

I appreciate your comments concerning the moral fabric of inventors of free energy devices. My intention was to summarize the PRACTICAL achievements they got and the MISTAKES they did, so that we learn and never repeat them. Here are in a more blunt way:

- Most people are pure breed experimenters, literally living for their work in a very passionate way. They are the anonymous army of workers that pushes the envelope of knowledge each day with every circuit they build. I really admire their work, but without a solid, FULLY understood and generally accepted theory behind those experiments it is like finding the needle in the hay stack. A viable invention will come out only by accident this way. That is why all free energy forums have long topics (hundreds of posts) that slowly die.

- There are few people that ALMOST hit the jackpot (Gray, Smith, Marks, Reed etc) and tried to patent and/or sell their invention. They chose NOT TO SHARE their knowledge with humankind and had to learn the hard way that you can't fight alone the scientific status quo imposed by a corrupt and greedy hand of evil people with tons of cash in their pockets. Smith thought that investors will line up bidding for his magic box and he will only have to sit and wait... just to find out he will have to sit and wait 1000 years more, since everybody said to him "We don't need your invention". Did you hear anything of him today? I didn't. All I know is that he is a dying, trembling in a wheelchair, old man.

- Some people are scavenging the archive of inventors' patents hoping to gather nuggets of secrets. BIG error. Nobody really checks their validity before issuing the patent. There are blatant errors, wrong figures, missing data, etc. that patent offices largely ignored. Not to mention my biggest dilemma: how do you issue a patent for an apparatus WITHOUT seeing and testing a working prototype?

- There are also a few very 'shady' inventors, some with a big chorus of fans, and in here i have to mention John Bedini. Take any major free energy inventor in the last 30 years, and Bedini has a finger in their life or invention. He checks Floyd Sweet, Howard Johnson, Cejka and many others in person or with Tom Bearden aside, he has A LOT of documents, charts, samples in his Alladin cave lab (see Energy From the Vaccum series), he knows a lot about their personal lives, yet nobody asks him: WHERE and HOW did you get them? Inventors are very careful sharing things, yet Bedini had the ability to collect them. To me this smells like he was helped by some 3-letter agencies, and at one point even Bearden admited Bedini had/has a lot in common with them. In fact I don't know of any free energy commercial product he sells and you might wonder: "this guy has data I couldn't get, for either I hadn't means or hadn't time, yet he sits on a pile of information that he scarcely shows, but he has not even ONE product on the market, that is after being banned from audio industry?"

Bottom line is this: be open, be honest, be smart and SHARE. Don't take it to your grave. Free energy inventions are huge, they will change our world in a spectacular way. Try to see beyond a pile of money, it is the entire humanity that will thank you.

I have a perpetual motion machine which is open source. It was open sourced by the Russian inventor in February this year. I took his idea and designed it.

I worked with the inventor via email and various different engineering companies to come up with a design that will work.

However when I found this forum and started to understand some of Tesla's work, I realised that it was obselete compared to a solid state device.

Between the people on this forum we can come up with a device that we can all replicate and it will work. Open your mind to the fact you've been indoctrinated from birth in almost every way. Your parents, your teachers too. This is why you believe so strongly what you believe to be so true that you will argue your point until proven visually to your own eyes.

Do some experiments, get a feel for the forces we are learning so much about that were never taught to us at school, college, uni etc.

Just like the film the Matrix (the 1st one) you are living a false set of thoughts about what you perceive to be your reality. Its a very hard pill to swallow. It made me feel physically sick when I realised the truth. That was around February this year for me. I find myself getting surrounded by like minded thinkers who know what I know and I'm not alone anymore.

United We Stand

DiViDeD We FaLL

A typical example of just one conspirary that exists. My Dad had a 5 foot 70w tube in the garden getting wet.

I asked him if he had thrown it out because it was broken. It definately doesn't work inside the bulb holder.


I connected it up to my ignition coil driver and it lit straight away. My Dad is still very puzzled about why it works with my 12v battery and it doesn't work at all in his house.

The people at the top of the bulb companies know the truth. Why would they want a bulb that lasts forever. It would effect their profits. Everything has been manipulated through electricity since Tesla times. Research Tesla properly and you will find the answers to what has happened.

Has anyone got a working link to Thrive Movement? We need to burn this to millions of discs and start posting through doors to people. More and more people are waking up, the older generation are extremely difficult to wake up, but the younger generation very easy.

2012 will be the year the Lion awakes. Super rich 1% elite NOW IT'S YOUR TURN TO BE SCARED!

I really enjoy reading this post !!!
This really needs to be "broadcasted" way all around.
No,seriously.Not jokes here.
I do fully agree with Masster`s recent posts too.
Let the reality to shine over the ( ) darkness of this system.

You are displaying a breathtaking degree of ignorance.
Stanley Meyer's HHO machine has been successfully replicated by Dave Lawton. It is COP 300%. You can buy the parts from Courtisetown on Ebay.
Others have enhanced it's capabilities (Ravi) from India. They have found that placing magnets by the water capacitor enhances the COP even further.
It's now up to COP 800% by the use of spiral shaped water capacitors.
The law of conservation of energy only applies to symmetrical closed loop systems. There's nothing closed loop about a magnetic field. In asymmetrical systems the "Law" does not apply.
We are beyond your ignorance on this forum. Members are now experimenting with coil-foil-capacitors, asymmetrical capacitors, Mislavskiy transformers, special caduceus coils and a whole host of other devices. Others are close to a full Kapanadze replication. Yes, we are building components that you and your kind can not even conceive of, because they do not exist in the text books. My advice is "do some experiments". You'll then find the DEVASTATING truth from the current Advanced level physics book, "Figure x is one of the few experiments that actually accord with theory". In other words 99% of all physics questions are lies. They do not agree with the experiments.
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Remember when you were at school.

You were taught "the answer is in the back of the book", "don't look though, thats cheating".

The indoctrination started then and conditioned you to not think outside of the box.

There is not one answer, there are many!

You need to understand Maxwell's original equations for example and LMD waves to see how history has been manipulated.

http://www.deltaavalon.com/immagini/...%20version.pdf

History has been manipulated by the global elite since Tesla times. This is why we all pay for electricity and also why every part of our lives is manipulated from nearly every angle on a daily basis because of the stronghold on the energy production and distribution.

Food, water, transport, law, war, money...... its all able to be controlled because of energy. That is the key!!!!

Hi .this is a working one THRIVE! (Prospera!) ROsub on Vimeo

Do you remember about romerouk ? He started his own forum ...just look at this thread Tesla- Kapanadze generator .You will find few very simple overunity device schematics posted by him , and confirmed by others to be workable ...

Here is one selfcharging circuit at page 9 Tesla- Kapanadze generator

http://underservice.org/index.php?ac...ch=520;i mage very similar with zilano schematic given to us at the beginning of this thread ( and unfortunately deleted after a while) ....

Hi folks,
don't feel deranged by nay-sayers. We are a non curable community. Most of us might not be successfull with their own replications. But by sharing all of us will be successful. Thanks for your catching enthusiasm :-)
Almost all real inventions were sverely questioned before they were accepted. Often a generation of humans passed away until the antagonism died out.
"The back of the moon will never be seen (encyclopedia 1890)"
"At speeds exceeding the speed of a horse (60 km/h) humans can not breath any more ....."
Millons of such nonsense is beeing uttered day after day and hour after hour! But regarding OU the passing generation of sceptics gives way now!

~o0o~

Now to reality:
Regarding the Russian schematic posted by Zilano recently: It contains many details and notions from Don, Zilano, Utkin..... It may reveal what Don decided to hide.

-> Utkin shows how energy can by harvested with cw/ccw harvest coil even if we have no resonance.
-> Tseung shows how we can insert more energy than we spend for each kick.
-> Zilano mentioned that adding resonance will increase the harvesting considerably. She is in line with many others.

All these notions are building stones of OU. We need to put them together.

Is there more knowledge regarding this schematic? Zilano answered some questions (THANKS!) but there are some more!
- Who ist SR??? (obviously the originator)
- Is there a link available?
- Where originates the screeenshot from?
- Values of capacitors?
- How are the harvest coils wond (cw/ccw?)

rgds John

I'm almost certain that Sr is SR 193 Cherepanov Valera. He's on the Russian forum and is featured in the latest Kelly PDF. I'm trying to get his email, and will let you have it privately if successful.

Just a quick note: you don't have to quote the post right above when you reply to it. The topic gets long and hard to scroll. Thanks.

The biggest thing I'm concentrating on right now is the output transformer.
It's been staring us in the face but we all want to make sparks and light lights, forgetting that the Tesla CW/CCW quasi bifilar output coil is the KEY.
I call it the resonant output transformer based on a reverse Tesla coil
ratio 1 :4 , STRICT! PERIOD!
Keep all other coils in any circuit build to a HARMONIC of the output if you can.
The whole circuit will then RING and you won't know where the sound is coming from.
Zilano uses the wrong English term Bifilar, but now we understand the meaning.
Thank you Zilano.
Thank you Tesla.
Thank you Don Smith

I had been thinking along a similar lines since watching this video.

Tesla's Little Secret - YouTube

Matt Blythe in the video has never actually made the device, just dreamt is up.

It needs a voltage regulator too, thats where I lean on someone more competant than me.

I try not to use 100% of my time, it is much more efficient to use 1% of 100 peoples time.

This is why together we will be sucessful.

For a while I wanted to buy Tesla Coils, Plans, Parts, Kits and change the circuit to see what happens.

I now believe that pumping the secondary (which now becomes the primary) with a square wave pulse is possibly the way to go.

If you look at the circuit diagram:



I believe this circuit is the way to create scalar current and gave Tesla the basis for wireless transmission.

A.king21:

Could you pls post some photos or diagrams?
It confused me.

There are many sources of OU which fortunately can be combined. One of those stakes we can hammer down in the ground is a spark gap. Searching for some confirmations and additional knowledge I found:
See EueJin Jeong Ph.D Physics - especially after minute 3:30
He states that if we discharge a capcitor via a spark gap the kinetic enrergy of the moving electrons is higher than the static energy (not electrons! see link below!) stored previously in the capacitor.
He calculates: at a precondition of 10KV / 5 KHz / 10 nF an surplus of 2.5 KW. (minute 9:16)
He further states that this energy can be harvested via resonant systems only.

This is exactly what Tesla found: a discharge out of a capacitor increases the usable energy considerably.
Regarding the magic of a capcitor: see demonstration of MIT starting with minute 2:00. It is not true that electrons are being stored somewhere on the metal surfaces.

Summary: spark gaps and resonant systems form a very real building stone for real OU systems. This is true for the hairpin circuit as well :-)

rgds John

Hi john:

In the hairpin circuit, where's the resonant? I remenberd that karl said the capcitors can any size.

I think resonance may figure scaler wave not transverse wave. May it's the key of failture.

The resonant output transformer is part of the circuit. J L Naudin forgot this and used a microwave oven transformer in reverse and ... FAILED!!!
REMEMBER THIS. The important thing to remember is the wiring ratio 1 to 4. Measure the wire before winding. In this reverse coil;- total secondary should be 4 primary should be 1. (Harmonics should also work, so later we can try 8:1) Number of turns simply increases voltage or amperage and does not really matter in getting OU. But the primary goes inside the secondary.
Remember to measure the wire FIRST! If using Don Smith input, make sure the input wires ratio 1: 4 and output wire ratios 1:4 are exactly the SAME LENGTH. That way (if you are slightly out, you can avoid using capacitors)if you use wires with clips you can find the resonant points because the circuit will RING like a loudspeaker, only you will not be able to hear exactly where the sound is coming from because it is the WHOLE circuit which is outputting sound. Later you can experiment by EXACTLY doubling the output wire lengths. But the ratio must be maintained 1 : 4. (Later we can try 8:1)
Or you can use BIG FAT WIRES.
It is a bit like making a musical instrument.
If you use clear varnish on the output coil former you increase the Q. In other words you help RESONANCE! RESONANCE, RESONANCE, RESONANCE. HOW MANY MORE TIMES! Think of Tesla's earthquake machine. LOOK IT UP! Do you think he ever forgot the lesson? 2 watts in - BILLIONS OF WATTS OUT!! Repeat:-RESONANCE, RESONANCE, RESONANCE. IS IT CLEAR!!!!
Nowadays to avoid RESONANCE, bridges have nodes with spheres attached to avoid ...... RESONANCE. Once again RESONANCE RESONANCE RESONANCE on the output transformer. Now forgive me if I don't post for a while cos I'm building RESONANT output transformers according to Tesla's diagram and script.

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My notion. It might need corrections.
- Every coil performs at it's natural resonance frequency when hit by a voltage/current shock. See 10000V AC coil in schematic from soundiceuk.
- The short circuit loop performs at a resonce frequency too (one loop coil). This is why some sceptics say that this circuit is a understandable high frequency circuit - and don't think any inch further. Nevertheless with this circuit is something special.
- The high voltage is being performed by the transformer while the shock is being performed by the spark gap. The following oscillations after the shock will be superimposed an the normal high voltage AC signal from the transformer. It seems to be essential to adjust the spark gap in order to fire at a special time slice of the AC frequency.
- I don't know how to discern the natural frequency (conventional scinence) and the higher scalar resonance (factor PI/2). (see Meyel demonstrations, extra coil from Tesla, Tesla earth resonance ca. 12 Hz vs. Schuhmann freqeunecy ca. 7.8 Hz) This might be a general clue on working or not working replications.
rgds John

Hi John, a very christmas to u, about the mit video, when i saw it, i supposed that it is all about the dielectric, and maybe electrons are pushed on the sides of the dielectric, what do you think.

and another thing, remember the plasma tube experiment of don smith, the glass between the 2 plates ( copper and alum ) i think it has a lot to do in our experiments.

have a good day.

Hi,
regarding length ratio I red different interpretations. I understand from your post: (please confirm or reject!)
- The total length of both pairs of secondary should be 4 times the primary

Questions:
- The length of wire includes leads to terminals, leads to capacitors, diodes?
- Is the intended resonance frequency related to the length (i.e. if the secondary is earth connected this might form a lambda/4 dipole.) If not earthed lambda/2 willbe correct. This might be essential if reverse Tesla configuration used.

Further notions:
- Conforming Utkin the primary should be a short coil while the secondary should be a long coil. They form very different shapes of magnetic fields. (cross section of short = circle, cross section of long = oval) This enables the magnetic fields to be perpendicular to each other. Thus the interaction of secondary current to primary coil will be minimized.

rgds John

Hi frankidel,
I can't answer your questions just now. I try to complete the puzzle - part by part. I gather notions in order to find valid links. And I share them.
If I can't procede any more I have to question all I am shure of all what I learned and all I see!

The MIT experiment proves that the electrons jamming on capacitor plates - is a child's tale. It confirms what Tesla found that capacitors do special things. Bedini confirms, Zilano confirms. All have their special terminology - but they confirm.
Additionally I'm not shure if there is any measurable effect on dielectric material only. I intend to measure next year.

I add some notions:
Conforming Tom Bearden electrons do not jam along the wires pushed by the battery voltage. By the switch on event they are energized and this is done i.e. by Bedini type short pulses.
But if electrons are energized they come out of their car house and drive by themselves like littel motor boats. The electric current is a tired side effect of the real event. As it is a side effect - it can be omitted.(term: open circuits). And this Bedini type energizing seems to be stored in a capacitor being able to produce usable current through resistors - later on at discharge event.
This might explain why sometimes a earth connection ist so important - in order to enable the energized electrons (open circuit) to flow and produce normal lossy current.
An additional level of complication seems to be that electric event is composed of two symmetrical effects. This is discussed in Utkin paper especially regarding cw/ccw coiling. Magnetically they oppose and delete each other but another energy flow is being added - independent from wind direction.

There are some other notions: alignment of the capacitors regarding the coils might be essential. (see Michalsky experiment)

As I stated above - these are some notions not being digested in my brain. All are still juggled in order to find a good resting place for reuse.

Anyway, I have now a good feeling and allmost all material and metering required in order to start experiments in January. I will share. Thanks for your scharing!!!!!!!!!!!!

rgds John