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Old 11-24-2011, 08:25 PM
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My 2" Joule thief is running ok but I cannot know exactly how much it's giving out cause three MM are giving me different readings
Well on the output it's lighting two neons in series although Cfl's that I have not lighting maybe my cfl are not good.
My problem is the variable cap cause nothing is happening when trying to tune maybe I have to have a bigger vcap.
Hi Guruji,
you are right! Digital MMs do not measure correctly in this application.
One way to measure correctly is to conduct two measurements.
1. Glue a PTC or NTS on a load resistor (not wire wound because of inductance) Choose value of resistor according to your optimal load.
2. Connect this resistor to your setup as load. Leave free air around the resistor.
3. Measure the resistance of your PTC/NTC until it reads stable.
4. Connect the load resistor to a variable power supply. Do not move the resistor.
5. Adjust the voltage so that you get the same stable reading like before.
6. Measure Voltage and amperage
7. Multiply measured voltage times amperage
8. Here you are: measured TRUE power.

The charm of this method is that you can take any NTC/PTC and there is no need for any calibration. The quality of a normal DMM is suffitient.
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only single hv cable used and it goes to diode only. no bifilars. only simple tesla type coils with ferrite.

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Ok, you have a 2KV single wire connection to the cathode of a diode. Is the same cathode connected to the ground of the 350VDC circuit? It looks like it.
How does the 2kv complete its circuit loop?
Does the 2kv ac & 350V dc share a common ground?
How is the Xenon flashtube triggered?
It would probably help a lot if you step through the circuit and explain what is happening. These other guys can probably understand it better that I can.
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[QUOTE=bbem;168542]This also helpfull:
Xenon Flasher
(The 2kV is connected to the striking shield, now I understand ;-)

@ Nightwind

Please see with attached reply from bbem (Xenon Flasher) about the Flasher circuits. The 2kv is there only as a striking discharge shield for the xenon tube. It is possible the two fly-backs 350 and 2kV to share the same ground. The cathode of the diode is not connected to ground as far as I can say. The flash tube triggering shall depend on the Capacitors C1C2 and L1 resonance and BEMF from L2 load if I may say so.

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Hi Guruji,
you are right! Digital MMs do not measure correctly in this application.
One way to measure correctly is to conduct two measurements.
1. Glue a PTC or NTS on a load resistor (not wire wound because of inductance) Choose value of resistor according to your optimal load.
2. Connect this resistor to your setup as load. Leave free air around the resistor.
3. Measure the resistance of your PTC/NTC until it reads stable.
4. Connect the load resistor to a variable power supply. Do not move the resistor.
5. Adjust the voltage so that you get the same stable reading like before.
6. Measure Voltage and amperage
7. Multiply measured voltage times amperage
8. Here you are: measured TRUE power.

The charm of this method is that you can take any NTC/PTC and there is no need for any calibration. The quality of a normal DMM is suffitient.
rgds John
Hi John thanks for response. Sorry for my ignorance in electronics What are PTC or NTS?
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Hi John thanks for response. Sorry for my ignorance in electronics What are PTC or NTS?
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Hi Guruji,
no problem. Any of us started innocent. When we were born none of us knew anything. We begun our life intuitively only. Almost all knowledge we got from others by their friendly sharing with us. Our own addition is minute. A good reason for humbleness!

Both NTC/PTC are termistors. (termistor) = resistors with variable resistance when temperature changing. All resistors do it in a minute amount. But at termistors this is exaggerated intentionally in oder to deal with temperatures.
PTC = = resistor with positive temperature coeffitient = resistance inreases considerably with rising temperature and vice versa. (PTC often are used in order to reduce dangerous overcurrents or to heat door mirrors in order to adapt the heating power to the outer temperature.)
NTC = resistor with negative temperature coeffitient = resistrance decreses considerably with rising temperature and vice versa (often used in order to measure temperatures)

If temperature measurement is intendet it is necessary that the behaivour ist linear. Unfortunately this is diffucult to achieve and you need to study the data sheet first.

Fortunately in our special case this does not matter at all because you find a certain temperature in your setup where the temperature becomes stable. You measure the cosrresponding resistance of your termistor - whatever it reads.
Later on you find out at your viable PSU what DC-current/voltage generates the very same temperature (resistance).

If you look at the possible errors in your measurement you will find out that it is only driven by the accuracy of your voltage and current measurement at DC condition. You can look up these values in your data sheet of your meter. Add the percentage. Le's say 1% current and 0.1 % voltage = 1.1 % accuracy. This is a quite fine and outstanding value for a low budget measurement of such weird signals.

The condition is that you have exactly the same environment of the resistor at both measurements therefore do not move any parts of the setup except the wiring from the setup to the DC PSU. Omit air draft.
And the resistor is not allowed to be wire wound because this performs as inductance and will behave considerably different at AC/DC conditions.
You can use several identical resistors in series or parallel (ar an array) if you adapt them to your load and the temperature needs to be measured at one singele of them only.

This is no quick and dirty method. It is very scientific though simple.
A more sophisticated procedure is to heat a thermally good isolated can with water and measure the temperature difference after a time. But leave this to those who need to prove anything. Just now we need not to do so. It's for your reference only and to compare the gain with other setups.

rgds John
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This also helpfull:
Xenon Flasher
(The 2kV is connected to the striking shield, now I understand ;-)

@ Nightwind

Please see with attached reply from bbem (Xenon Flasher) about the Flasher circuits. The 2kv is there only as a striking discharge shield for the xenon tube. It is possible the two fly-backs 350 and 2kV to share the same ground. The cathode of the diode is not connected to ground as far as I can say. The flash tube triggering shall depend on the Capacitors C1C2 and L1 resonance and BEMF from L2 load if I may say so.

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JJ
JJ, thanks for your response. I understand how a "typical" xenon flashtube setup works, but her drawing confused me with the diode & ground connection (its easy to confuse me).

Since Zilano's circuit is so similar to a camera flash setup, maybe you can cannibalize a cheap throw away camera and build a micro-OU device? Just size an output & collector coil and oscillate the xenon trigger.
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I am still puzzled too regarding the earth link.
Guess the MOV alone is attached to earth and not the negative lead.
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free energy

confirmed Fake: free energy 27 Watts in 460 Watts out - YouTube

i am more interested in generating free energy from common parts like this one has a psu from computer and spark plug from autoshop and a coil like kapandaze .. and a microwave capacitor.. 6v battery..

zilano do you have a circuit for this.. or is this fake ?? i don't know.. no earth wire .??
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Hi all,
in oder to make the questions more clear I attach a schamatic of Z's last proposal. So Z please help us on how to complete the schematic. I will update it later on so we have one confirmed from you in version v2.

1. The flash tube has a gate electrode than it can be triggered this way.
2. The flash tube does not trigger by 350V and the ignition pulse is applied by the diodes so it triggers the tube by a short extra negative pulse.

The question is if the 2KV pulsing is for the tube trigger only or is there another important action using this.

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BTW: Still studying Utkin and prepare some tests.
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confirmed Fake: free energy 27 Watts in 460 Watts out - YouTube

i am more interested in generating free energy from common parts like this one has a psu from computer and spark plug from autoshop and a coil like kapandaze .. and a microwave capacitor.. 6v battery..

zilano do you have a circuit for this.. or is this fake ?? i don't know.. no earth wire .??
Hi,
independent of the question if this is a fake or not it is obviously no genuin computer PSU. Such a PSU has no means internally in order to generate high voltage from low voltage.The only common with such a PSU is the metal case and perhaps some parts reused. The case contains the signal generation for the coil.
In so far it is nothing exceptional apart from the basics explained by Vladimir Utkin and others. Of course that matter is exceptional by itself but not the example linked to.(My notion) Sorry for this bad news!
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Hi all,
in oder to make the questions more clear I attach a schamatic of Z's last proposal. So Z please help us on how to complete the schematic. I will update it later on so we have one confirmed from you in version v2.

1. The flash tube has a gate electrode than it can be triggered this way.
2. The flash tube does not trigger by 350V and the ifnition pule is applied by the diodes so t trigger the tube by a short extra negative pulse.

Attachment 9653

rgds John
Thanks John well done, I have a few comments:
In Zilano's diagram we start w/ 4.5VDC and based on her description this is fed into a function generator which drives a 2kv flyback xnsfr with a 350V tap off of it (or use 2 flybacks). You need to show the function generator. After thinking about it, the 2kv feed is probably being half-wave rectified to trigger the xenon tube (is that you meant above?). The Xenon tube has to be connected to ground or common in order to work
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Thanks John well done, I have a few comments:
In Zilano's diagram we start w/ 4.5VDC and based on her description this is fed into a function generator which drives a 2kv flyback xnsfr with a 350V tap off of it (or use 2 flybacks). You need to show the function generator. After thinking about it, the 2kv feed is probably being half-wave rectified to trigger the xenon tube (is that you meant above?). The Xenon tube has to be connected to ground or common in order to work
Here my proposal regarding the connection of the 2KV PSU (given that the 2KV have only trigger function)
Attachment 9654
Z please comment!

The PSUs FB1 and FB2 are drawn here as modules only. There are a lot of ways to build them. Both can be built i.e. like Royer Oscillator (please google) but the 350V one needs to have a higher frequency. For 2KV a trigger transformer out of a disposable camera might do well.

Of course the FB schematic is important for building a replication but initially we need to know the right side of the schematic.
But please wait until Z clarifies the right side of the schematic - especially if the 2KV are reqired for more as to trigger the flash tube.

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Great job!
My theory:
- I think Z build an Avramenko pump/plug like this setup:
The AFEP v1.2, Single-Wire Energy transmission test by Jean-Louis Naudin
- The touch button on the circuit will temporary switch on the 350 V DC over the bulb, and the 2kV kickstarts the lamp.
- When the button is released, the 350V DC will drop, but the hv keeps kicking the lamp and the LC circuit
keeps resonating and generating power over the spark/condenser/coils.
(The Xenon lamp is the spark plug)

But then the question still remains about the earth link.
I hope Z will comment on this :-)
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Nice circuit ! Thanks Zelina Zilano zz.
Kind of reminds me this basic Plauson circuit >

They are almost similar.
Hmm... have seen this type of exciting with xenon lamp in a pdf file
who the "autors" supposed to mimic the T.H Moray radiant circuit
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Very kind of you, appreciate it
This is with usage of the striking shield I see.
Nice!

ps. Need to buy some sunglasses before I start testing

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Should we keep triggering the Xenon lamp, or only at startup?
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In so much as TK Don Smith and Tesla Machines seem to have a common base I advise of this recently released vid ... which I consider very important to all,pls go over to here Tiger's Device 0.150-1Kwt replicant and pick up off my post and Boguslaw's info below regards Duncan
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Keep testing yourselves

Hi all.
Guys & gals, I`am sure ZZ has not tested all of these circuits
for she/he would need an enormous bank account for all the
circuits parts and of course a lot of time

But, she/he has been doing a good job with hints and tips
on how every researcher in this forum could take as map points
on "where to go" and "how to go".

ZZZZ keep us triggered with these schematics.
Hopefully some people here will gather the critical points
or working principles.

Thanks and best Regards.
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continuous triggering with hv.
Zilano

This lv/hv module is custom made like flyback with transistor ? do you have frequency and coil+cap resonant circuit matched somehow ?
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Ungrounded setup

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Hi Zelina, Can you tell me any more about your ungrounded setup? Does it have the same amount of output as a grounded one? Did you use the chassis of the vehicle for a ground at all? And, did you use it to charge batteries, or could you use the setup to power the car alone?


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RESONANCE HAPPENING IN L1 AND L2 and is harvested by harvest coil.

Hi Zilano,
thanks for this proposal. Question reagarding L1 / L2: are they identical but cw/ccw?
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well, am rich. and have tested all.
break of continuity is vital. else mr LENZ WITH LAWS comes in greeting as uninvited guest for free meal! and drinks!

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wow.. lucky you.
unfortunately not all here are like you to afford these experiments.
I for myself, have not yet made a serious 'jump' to free energy research
because of (great) financial difficulties.
Sad isn't it ? Sure not only for me.

Too bad that you`ve disabled pm on your account,
I need to take your opinion for some info I have collected over the years
around internet places regarding free energy research.
This before I put big economical efforts which I cannot repeat anymore.
Anyway.
I believe ,from what I`ve seeing your posts here, that you have better info available than most of us here have collected ( )
You can always drop me a pm if something indeed is alike.(my pm is on)

Anyhow,thank you the info released till now.
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Hello everyone!

I have been following this thread for sometime now and have tried different setups to power a load on the L2 coil in Don's setup.

I wanted to report that I had some success with Don's setup. Please see the attached circuit diagram for my setup.

L1 coil was wound on a 2" PCV tube and placed in the centre of L2 coil. L2 coil was from Baker and Williamson with a 3" diameter (Model 2404TL). I removed 4 windings from the center and attached a ground lead to it. The outputs from L2 coil was connected to a 100W light bulb.

I was able to light the 100W light bulb fairly well but it was not at full brightness. I did run into some problems and I was hoping someone in this forum can help me solve. I used a surge arrestor with a breakdown voltage of 5KV but after about 5 mins of powering the device the discharges from the primary capacitor goes over the surge arrestor casing and creates a loud sound. I was trying to eliminate the sound all together since a working model should be quiet as well. If any one can suggest a different method for the spark gap with little sound as possible, I would appreciate it.

As the device is left running for a bit there would be sporadic growth in brightness on the 100W light bulb. I assume this is caused by the coils going into and falling out of resonance. I still need to find a method of tuning this device for maximum effect on the L2 coil.

I will post more pictures of my device once I get back home tomorrow.

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Hello everyone!

I have been following this thread for sometime now and have tried different setups to power a load on the L2 coil in Don's setup.

I wanted to report that I had some success with Don's setup. Please see the attached circuit diagram for my setup.

L1 coil was wound on a 2" PCV tube and placed in the centre of L2 coil. L2 coil was from Baker and Williamson with a 3" diameter (Model 2404TL). I removed 4 windings from the center and attached a ground lead to it. The outputs from L2 coil was connected to a 100W light bulb.

I was able to light the 100W light bulb fairly well but it was not at full brightness. I did run into some problems and I was hoping someone in this forum can help me solve. I used a surge arrestor with a breakdown voltage of 5KV but after about 5 mins of powering the device the discharges from the primary capacitor goes over the surge arrestor casing and creates a loud sound. I was trying to eliminate the sound all together since a working model should be quiet as well. If any one can suggest a different method for the spark gap with little sound as possible, I would appreciate it.

As the device it left running for a bit there would be sporadic growth in brightness on the 100W light bulb. I assume this is caused by the coils going into and falling out of resonance. I still need to find a method of tuning this device for maximum effect on the L2 coil.

I will post more pictures of my device once I get back home tomorrow.

Thanks.
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congratulations! . That is very good news for all!
Please specify what measuerement equipment you have available. Else you get probably hints you can not follow.

Have you arrestors with i.e. 2 KV? Then use two of them in series.
Are they getting very hot? Use fan for cooling.

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Hi,

I will post my exact measurements on the coils and the equipment I have for taking measurements tonight once I get home. I'm away from the work bench at the moment and dont' have all my notes with me.

I also have a 2KV arresters and I have already tried placing 2 of them in series. They still get really hot and the discharge jumps the outside of the casing. So far I only had some what a stable oscillation with a 5KV arrester. I also tried 100V arrester and 3 100V arresters in series and they gave no visible output on L2.
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Hello,

Here is a short video (Link: Test 1.mp4 - YouTube) of my actual setup and the same circuit I posted earlier. The first part of the video I show you the system and in the second part I show you the signal picked up on a probe left just beside the L2 coil.

You can also hear the loud discharge that occurs over the surge arrester closer to the end of the video. This happens after couple of minutes of powering the system. Probably due to massive amount of heat generated inside the surge arrester.

I used a screw driver to test for resonance on the L2 coil. If I placed the screw driver near the center of the coil I get lots of sparks. If I placed the screw driver away from center I get very little sparks. I saw this method on another video, which I forget at the moment. Once I tune the system into resonance I expect more sparks even at the ends of the coil from center on L2.

Also the whole system was grounded to the wall outlet ground. When I removed the ground lead you will notice that the light turns off and there is no sparks on the primary coil side.

If anyone has a better idea for the spark gap I would appreciate it. Something that is quiet and will not spark over its casing.

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What was the input wattage to light the 100 watt bulb?
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The schematic starts out with a 9KV 30MA NST

So I believe 270 Watts Input ??

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Typically when the NST output is rectified in that manor the power consumption is cut in half or slightly lower. I was curious if Blue Serge was able to get it at or below the 100 watt input. Still, the bulb really isn't a good indicator of the actual output, simply a visual representation of work being done. It's quite difficult for our eyes to process the difference between 70 watts to 100 watts of brightness so it might seem to be full bright but without an actual measurement it's a guessing game.

I haven't seen any spark gaps, pre made, that are enclosed such as the GDT's. The GDT's run extreemly hot and typically don't last long. I've been using some home brewed gaps using Tungsten in open air and they are a bit noisey. I was thinking it wouldn't take much to take a lab type glass tube and insert aluminum ends, one rod being fixed the other being threaded and adjustable. This would keep the noise level quite low and would operate better than the GDT's.
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Hello,

Thank you Zilino for your advice. I will try your suggestions next.

The input power for the NST is 240 watts. (120V * 2Amps)

This system is still far from overunity, however it is a step in the right direction. I will try the this again with a third coil and see if that makes any difference. I'll keep you guys posted. Thanks.
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