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US English is my primary, and I also have the entire 1995 video transcribed in Rick's Book.

I don't know what you are listening for Med. Don is simply saying that the device will be too powerful for a single capacitor, and you mitigate that by using banks of capacitors.

Nothing special about that, nor properties, nor implementation. Simple capacitor engineering, and more towards the fact that the heat that a capacitor takes (because they do get warm in some of my experiments) that multiple capacitors share the heat distribution.

Absolutely nothing that relates to an EBTC, besides there is the word capacitor in the aforementioned.


what about hot spot and protective coating ? if you listen attentively he change his words between capacitor and capacitance as there's a coil has a capacitance which is an Extended Tesla bifilar coil E T B C ..
what about double frequency mentioned in 1994 video ? OK you will tell it's a rectified signal, we already know about that but he talk about a double frequency in another way can be seeing in the ETBC , i explained this in the late of 2014 in my pdf !


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[FONT="Courier New"]what about hot spot and protective coating ? if you listen attentively he change his words between capacitor and capacitance as there's a coil has a capacitance which is an Extended Tesla bifilar coil E T B C ..
Med, I didn't interpret that how you did. Don was simply explaining the dangers of the energy flowing into the L2. If you make a Tesla coil, the bottom gets warm. If you have a high enough energy, I think it will melt the L2 coil insulation, my simple slayer starts to unravel because the lacquer heats and starts to loosen my L2 windings.

You maybe corolating his words differently.
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You show picture of Don Smith's DSE capacitor.

Have you ever made a capacitor work wired as he described?

I have recently only been able to achieve this by using Rick's book. Not the amplifying effect, but wired where the negative side of the capacitor drives the load when grounded correctly.
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hello

the most important thing is the amplification factors, any coil or capacitor or whatever combination if there's no increased oscillation when the system is isolated from excitation / power source it's most likely the system can't produce such effect ... at least there's no huge gain as described by Don Smith

the ETBC has this capability, i described this in my PDF ( part 2 )

www.free-energy-info.com/Mohamed.pdf

why an increased oscillation is so important even we can't use it in practice since the system will produce thousand of amps which can't be controlled ? --- Don Smith 1995 video -----

simply because you need an internal feedback which change the magnetic field to electrostatic field within the system itself ( ETBC conducting foils ) the magnetic field tend to charge the capacitance instantly with no delay , this what produce double frequency behavior ..

if you make a relatively large ETBC the increased oscillation can be seeing with scope, any magnetic field enter the ETBC will be translated immediately to static field through the no conservative rotating electric field , here you can change the reactive electric power into active power !!!!

the ETBC will store this electric field and push another magnetic quantity both at the same time !!!

i think the best is to start experiments rather than argument ..

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I will never dictate other's efforts, just give my honest opinion. If you show me tomorrow that you can drive a motor with just a few input watts, I would welcome the knowledge.

Good Luck!

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I will never dictate other's efforts, just give my honest opinion. If you show me tomorrow that you can drive a motor with just a few input watts, I would welcome the knowledge.

Good Luck!

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i understand in 2001 video he also gave a hint about his device :

https://youtu.be/mHhfNjPk7o4

Don explain how the right diameter with the right Height can give plenty of amps and volts , someone asked if there is a golden ratio ( this was in the same video ) but he replied no ...

i am also publishing my point of view honestly !

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hello

the most important thing is the amplification factors, any coil or capacitor or whatever combination if there's no increased oscillation when the system is isolated from excitation / power source it's most likely the system can't produce such effect ... at least there's no huge gain as described by Don Smith

So I think that's one problem you have with an EBTC, if you make both both plates the same length, you are gaining no voltage step up or in the reverse step down. I guess it implies that it might be used best as an isolation transformer if you never join the plates, and leave a capacitive coupling. But where Don takes a voltage and makes few a few L1 windings drive many windings in the L2. The free transformation is not gained.
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So I think that's one problem you have with an EBTC, if you make both both plates the same length, you are gaining no voltage step up or in the reverse step down. I guess it implies that it might be used best as an isolation transformer if you never join the plates, and leave a capacitive coupling. But where Don takes a voltage and makes few a few L1 windings drive many windings in the L2. The free transformation is not gained.

the problem with an ETBC is the excitation system .. you need a relatively large current to excite it plus higher impulse rate, the more you pulse it the more power, it's possible to rise the voltage or step it down , you can use it in Mazilli driver and it oscillate perfectly, it work in Collpit or Hartley oscillator , in Mazilli driver you can take the power from it when it oscillate without further coil !

the points c prime D prime are free but you can take power from them and light a bulb !! in the above drawing those point are facing C and D which make a fixed potential !!! this mean the electrons are separated in these point , so the capacitor is talking with inductance ..in other word this special coil can differentiate the electrons based on their spin ..

maybe the best solution is to excite it using reactive power , we can use large current with large voltage while we use few watts input , the modern electronic is more advanced now then Don smith days .
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the problem with an ETBC is the excitation system .. you need a relatively large current to excite it plus higher impulse rate, the more you pulse it the more power, it's possible to rise the voltage or step it down , you can use it in Mazilli driver and it oscillate perfectly, it work in Collpit or Hartley oscillator , in Mazilli driver you can take the power from it when it oscillate without further coil ! [/IMG]

the points c prime D prime are free but you can take power from them and light a bulb !! in the above drawing those point are facing C and D which make a fixed potential !!! this mean the electrons are separated in these point , so the capacitor is talking with inductance ..in other word this special coil can differentiate the electrons based on their spin ..

maybe the best solution is to excite it using reactive power , we can use large current with large voltage while we use few watts input , the modern electronic is more advanced now then Don smith days .
Well I won't build an EBTC. It's a distraction for me.

Show me it works, and I might.
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Well I won't build an EBTC. It's a distraction for me.

Show me it works, and I might.

Tesla : Hello Med how are you ?
Me : all is well thanks , you ?
Tesla : fine too --smile--
Me : what do you think about the ETBC ?
Tesla : It's a distraction




just for smile , i didn't asked you to build the ETBC , i just need a technical help in electronic this is why i am posting here
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hello

the most important thing is the amplification factors, any coil or capacitor or whatever combination if there's no increased oscillation when the system is isolated from excitation / power source it's most likely the system can't produce such effect ... at least there's no huge gain as described by Don Smith

the ETBC has this capability, i described this in my PDF ( part 2 )

www.free-energy-info.com/Mohamed.pdf

why an increased oscillation is so important even we can't use it in practice since the system will produce thousand of amps which can't be controlled ? --- Don Smith 1995 video -----

simply because you need an internal feedback which change the magnetic field to electrostatic field within the system itself ( ETBC conducting foils ) the magnetic field tend to charge the capacitance instantly with no delay , this what produce double frequency behavior ..

if you make a relatively large ETBC the increased oscillation can be seeing with scope, any magnetic field enter the ETBC will be translated immediately to static field through the no conservative rotating electric field , here you can change the reactive electric power into active power !!!!

the ETBC will store this electric field and push another magnetic quantity both at the same time !!!

i think the best is to start experiments rather than argument ..

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Hello Med.3012

I was interested with your pdf but I don't understand what the diagrams are symbolizing in fig's 5,6 and 7. The red and black dome shapes.

You are talking about coils and capacitors but I can not relate what you are saying to these diagrams.

Can you please explain what they are supposed to be and how they relate to what you are trying to explain.

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Hello Med.3012

I was interested with your pdf but I don't understand what the diagrams are symbolizing in fig's 5,6 and 7. The red and black dome shapes.

You are talking about coils and capacitors but I can not relate what you are saying to these diagrams.

Can you please explain what they are supposed to be and how they relate to what you are trying to explain.

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Hello

please follow the answer in my thread here :

The Resonance Energy Device Explained

it's better to move again to my lovely place so i feel conformable, i hope you understand

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Tesla : Hello Med how are you ?
Me : all is well thanks , you ?
Tesla : fine too --smile--
Me : what do you think about the ETBC ?
Tesla : It's a distraction




just for smile , i didn't asked you to build the ETBC , i just need a technical help in electronic this is why i am posting here
I stand corrected... It really is a huge distraction! LOL
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Thanks Med.3012

I will look a bit further in your thread.

Just one thing I would like to point out.

The picture you have in your pdf of one of don smiths devices Fig24.

I have looked carefully at this coil in his videos and can see that it is just one continuously wound coil all in the same direction and opened up in the center where the central connections are made.

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Thanks Med.3012

I will look a bit further in your thread.

Just one thing I would like to point out.

The picture you have in your pdf of one of don smiths devices Fig24.

I have looked carefully at this coil in his videos and can see that it is just one continuously wound coil all in the same direction and opened up in the center where the central connections are made.

Netica

maybe, but he mentioned the importance of CW and CCW , there's no detailed photo of his device , so the most important source of info is his words in his video.
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anytime there's a phase shift between voltage and current you have reactive power , but most likely combined with active power which do real work, reactive power is used to rise the voltage in case of huge electricity demand .. we use the reflected voltage component that came from the electric current itself so we can transport active power again effectively.. this phase shift help the system to relax !

in our case imagine you have 10W of active power the AC voltage is 220 V ,the current is 45 ma but you need say 40 A with 100 V ? ! here it's possible to achieve this gain but you have to put your system in full relaxation this mean active power is zero .. it's like you convert voltage to current directly but at the moment when you have a max current the voltage is zero , now we are working with a pure reactive system ! this is a huge virtual gain in electric current, using the simulation software you see the input power can be as small as 5 W but the output can achieve 1000 VAR !!!


now because the ETBC handle its capacitor with inductance you can correct the phase easily since both present together all the time .. there's other details can be added here but first we have to success in creating reactive power !


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This concept is difficult to absorb. Let me see if I have an explanation. In a Don Smith circuit, when driving the L1 coil, the reactive power is the voltage sent to L2 when the spark gap fires? The reactive power becomes absorbed through inductive transfer by L2? But, as very little amperage is transferred, L2 becomes a container for Reactive power. We then have to be able to join this inductor to a capacitive source to obtain useable Power? Would this be what is happening?

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This concept is difficult to absorb. Let me see if I have an explanation. In a Don Smith circuit, when driving the L1 coil, the reactive power is the voltage sent to L2 when the spark gap fires? The reactive power becomes absorbed through inductive transfer by L2? But, as very little amperage is transferred, L2 becomes a container for Reactive power. We then have to be able to join this inductor to a capacitive source to obtain useable Power? Would this be what is happening?

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I think that's close, to my perception as well. A correctly constructed tesla coil will build "huge currents" (resonance) with the proper grounding (Ref: Stefan's Tesla coil pages - RF-gnd) That is in the RF. A capacitively coupled receiver will be able to receive that energy between Coil and Earth ground. Because your output load does not affect your input resonance, you can store that energy in capacitors(bank). From then on it's just conversion to usable format, because your capacitors become a power supply. You're compression is your Tesla transmission where you wind the power like a spring, When you receive it, it can be unwound and stored, used.

There may be mitigating prerequisites to allow this to happen. Usable ambient energy present - as per dynatron

Or at a frequency that allows the Earth to re-enforce the resonance

Rick Friedrich made the statement that you have to know where to ground and when.

My thoughts are that L1 (the HV module) grounds to the battery[isolated], L2 has to ground [Earth] to draw the RF wave, and the receiver needs to return the energy back to ground [Earth].

It's not the parts, it's the system
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This concept is difficult to absorb. Let me see if I have an explanation. In a Don Smith circuit, when driving the L1 coil, the reactive power is the voltage sent to L2 when the spark gap fires? The reactive power becomes absorbed through inductive transfer by L2? But, as very little amperage is transferred, L2 becomes a container for Reactive power. We then have to be able to join this inductor to a capacitive source to obtain useable Power? Would this be what is happening?

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Hi !

the reactive power circulate between L1 and the tank capacitor , it has all the impact of active power with one critical defect... , there's a 90 phase shift between voltage and electric current , which mean it need a simple correction possible if we use the ETBC as primary coil, at this moment we need a good circuit can do that , after i think the puzzle will be solved i hope



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This concept is difficult to absorb. Let me see if I have an explanation. In a Don Smith circuit, when driving the L1 coil, the reactive power is the voltage sent to L2 when the spark gap fires? The reactive power becomes absorbed through inductive transfer by L2? But, as very little amperage is transferred, L2 becomes a container for Reactive power. We then have to be able to join this inductor to a capacitive source to obtain useable Power? Would this be what is happening?

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hi dwane,

reactive power is as simple as,
when you push a swing and the swing comes back.
action = reaction.

aside from the phase shifts, which only you would understand if you graph the voltages and currents. it's all very simple.
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Hi Guys,
Without belabouring the point, I think I understand it now.

On the Grid, the Generators dispense Reactive Voltage up to their capacity. Where ever draw down occurs the Grid voltage is supplied via high voltage to step down transformers. These transformers are the mediating source to households or businesses and etc. It is only when draw down occurs and a load is placed across the voltage supply - switch on via an earth connection - the reactive power is converted into useable energy. Switch Off, goes back to reactive waiting to be used. Hence the system can only be as good as the maximum voltage coming from the generator. Therefore Reactive Power is always waiting to be used. Limitations apply from generated output.

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Everything I have compiled is in the PDF I have put together,
except the minutia. I have gone through lots of material. But still there is so much out there.

I bought the plasma globe "Illuma storm" from an e-bay sale, I got the speaker wire that has something like 488 strands in each lead. I wound 14 turns on a 7" PVC pipe, I got a 7,000 to 12,000 KV isolation transformer from another e-bay sale., I just missed three great sales for the Caps. these monsters are kind of illusive. I may have to build my own or I may build it with no caps. I still need to find the right Varistor and the two different kinds of spark gaps ( I think I will use spark plugs anyway. I have a circuit breaker box that is adequate but I would like to find one with a PG&E meter .

I have been ordering meters right and left... I got and electrostatic volt meter that will measure from 1 Volt to 100,000 Volts, I am bidding on a gauss meter now, I hope I win. If you dig deep in Dons writings this value starts at the gieger counter values; .1 Gamma! OMG, I have purchased a frequency meter, and two LCR meters trying to save money, Any way I am in the hunt.
If you would like a copy of my replication journal I will attach it. on reply.

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Have found a few hours this weekend! Have set up first stage of the energy transfer test as per Tesla. Simple stuff. But, following the rules, such as wire weight, turns etc, this worked first time I switched the power on. Reassuring to say the least! Am still waiting for my wax modules to come out of hibernation, will get some perspex tomorrow and give that a try. The teflon is a bit tricky given the high temperatures required. Photo attached.

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Have found a few hours this weekend! Have set up first stage of the energy transfer test as per Tesla. Simple stuff. But, following the rules, such as wire weight, turns etc, this worked first time I switched the power on. Reassuring to say the least! Am still waiting for my wax modules to come out of hibernation, will get some perspex tomorrow and give that a try. The teflon is a bit tricky given the high temperatures required. Photo attached.

@Franklin, this might help!
Hey Dwane,

I knew that would! Experiment the different ways to attain power by going straight to Earth ground on the receiver. But before you do that, place a piece of metal between the two top loads as a shield. If you ground the receiver to the battery, there is no interruption of power output. Now when you use Earth ground as part of the dipole on the receiver and you shield the toploads, you will see the power transfer drop.

Now you know what you have setup, couldn't be how Tesla was going transmit the power through the Earth. However, if you have a third coil, you will see how it is done.
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Does anyone have a source for the Varo VF15 diodes and/or the CD yellow capacitors Don used in his machines?

There seems to be two sizes of the caps used..... got values??

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What need ye?


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Hey Dwane,

I knew that would! Experiment the different ways to attain power by going straight to Earth ground on the receiver. But before you do that, place a piece of metal between the two top loads as a shield. If you ground the receiver to the battery, there is no interruption of power output. Now when you use Earth ground as part of the dipole on the receiver and you shield the toploads, you will see the power transfer drop.

Now you know what you have setup, couldn't be how Tesla was going transmit the power through the Earth. However, if you have a third coil, you will see how it is done.
Hi ilandtan,
Do you think Don was using an extra coil to resonate to a higher voltage?

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Do you think Don was using an extra coil to resonate to a higher voltage?

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Hi ilandtan,
couple of things. Here is a couple of pics of the set up posted earlier. I am using approx 6watts. However, on my electrostatic meter, I am reading over 30Kv! I do not get a reading from the collector coil that is lighting the globes.

On the Tesla picture, I have been looking towards building a different set up, similar to the attached pic. I'll take your advice and proceed with the earth connection. Also, I am losing lots of time building my capacitor. Maybe in a week or so I might have something better to show!

Thanks and regards

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couple of things. Here is a couple of pics of the set up posted earlier. I am using approx 6watts. However, on my electrostatic meter, I am reading over 30Kv! I do not get a reading from the collector coil that is lighting the globes.

On the Tesla picture, I have been looking towards building a different set up, similar to the attached pic. I'll take your advice and proceed with the earth connection. Also, I am losing lots of time building my capacitor. Maybe in a week or so I might have something better to show!

Thanks and regards

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Please pursue what you will, but do it with the intent to understand what is not understood.

I mentioned the third coil in passing about energy transmission, because it was the only way I was able to pass energy on a small scale to an LED beyond the local effect of proximity radiation. The Tesla third coil used in his magnifier is a totally different topic I have not investigated thoroughly enough.

I don't know if it is the answer to the Don Smith equation. However let me provide some guidance about the overall failure of what I see on this forum.

We try continually to discover secret configurations, circuits, components to provide us the "more" we need to see real power. However we don't know how the system works, so we continually fail. It's like having the parts of an engine scattered about you without knowing how the pieces fit.

How do we know we are on the right road?

Don said oscilloscopes can't see the accurate picture, and that would make sense because it wont show you what is happening in the magnetic spectrum. He said use gaussmeters and frequency counters.

I purchased a 20 dollar gaussmeter, per dynatron's advice, and I see things differently and scanning all Don information for his insites. Looking for that, I came across a Don quote
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Resonating Fluxing of these None Ionic Electrons provides Useful Energy. From a Gauss Meter and a Spark Gap using a High Voltage and High Frequency Source the Magnetic Flux available ranges from two to greater than two thousand Gauss.
Two thousand Gauss is a heap of magnetic field. If you measure your slayer like mine, it was around 3uT.

If we are replicating Don devices, we have a way to know if we are on the right road, by measuring the moving magnetic field, like with a gaussmeter. If you equate that conceptually to 2000G magnet but being able to turn the field on or off (or reversing the polarity) at a very high rate(frequency). You start seeing how that can be used to supply REAL power.

The goal then is to produce flux through resonant systems. We are definitely doing that in our slayer configuration, just not in the magnitude needed. By having the right tools, we can research and engineer from the results perspective.
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