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Old 08-10-2011, 02:51 PM
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Well Drak,
forget it, that you will build any usefull here.

That Informations, what this Zilano, not sure if this is only a Bot or a Spammer shows is nothing, as a lot of Mess.
Most of it i had allready posted at an other Thread, seems he did collect it, and now warm it up, all what is left are 2 Pages with a lot Crap and jabbering.
IE suggesting DC Caps, there is no Way for that. And the Rest from this Pages here, not worth to read through.

Another Disinformations agent, what jam another Threat, maybe he should first start with learn how to write, because it looks like, this is a 14 Year old Boy from his spelling.
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Old 08-10-2011, 04:52 PM
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Well Drak,
forget it, that you will build any usefull here.

That Informations, what this Zilano, not sure if this is only a Bot or a Spammer shows is nothing, as a lot of Mess.
Most of it i had allready posted at an other Thread, seems he did collect it, and now warm it up, all what is left are 2 Pages with a lot Crap and jabbering.
IE suggesting DC Caps, there is no Way for that. And the Rest from this Pages here, not worth to read through.

Another Disinformations agent, what jam another Threat, maybe he should first start with learn how to write, because it looks like, this is a 14 Year old Boy from his spelling.
You got a point.
Swapping primary and secondary? Funny. So he/she changes the whole Smith design around until he gets his voltages right.
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:36 PM
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Well Drak,
forget it, that you will build any usefull here.

That Informations, what this Zilano, not sure if this is only a Bot or a Spammer shows is nothing, as a lot of Mess.
Most of it i had allready posted at an other Thread, seems he did collect it, and now warm it up, all what is left are 2 Pages with a lot Crap and jabbering.
IE suggesting DC Caps, there is no Way for that. And the Rest from this Pages here, not worth to read through.

Another Disinformations agent, what jam another Threat, maybe he should first start with learn how to write, because it looks like, this is a 14 Year old Boy from his spelling.
Probably more like Italian and English is not his first language or maybe he's using a translator like Google. If he has anything it's certainly not making any sense to me either. I don't think he's a bot or spammer though and I doubt a disinfo agent either as his disinfo wouldn't fool anyone. I'm more inclined to think he has something but can't clearly convey it. Maybe some pictures or video's well done would clarify if there is anything here.
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Old 08-10-2011, 08:10 PM
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I'm more inclined to think he has something but can't clearly convey it. Maybe some pictures or video's well done would clarify if there is anything here.
Actually thats the other Thing i miss, no real Backround there, just Castles in the Air, a lot 'Suggestions' what may some take blind over, in hope that there is something, but there will not be anything.
The Theories what he sproad can anyone else put together, when he looks some closer at Don Smith Devices, doesnt mean, that someone really has something, and what we now here got is more Mess and Misinformations then anything.

The only thing you really can do at Don Smith's Devices is, build it, tune it, Days or even Weeks, change the Coils, and Components and then you can show something, but not hypothetically shot in the Dark with any Informations what you can find, and hope someone do rebuild it.

And when you wanna have really Informations about it, then the Informations what you allready can download are actually enough.
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Please explain your experiment with transformers. Is that one transformer with two caps (one on primary and one on secondary) or two transformers each with two caps ? I found it interesting.
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:30 PM
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Hi zilano,

Have you actually assembled the two transformer setup as you described?

What capacitor values did you have to use for tuning? (I know this is very much transformer-dependent but what were the values in your case?)

Speaking of gain: how do you mean it? Say you have a bulb at the primary output of the tuned 2nd transformer as a load, (say your system is 120V AC) and the bulb is rated as 25W at 120V. Now your input power to the untuned 1st transformer taken from the 120V AC mains is less than the 25W the bulb consumes (as measured)? Please clarify if this is what you mean by gain.

Thanks, Gyula
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:36 AM
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hi there!

spellings dont make any1 have more wisdom n experience. if u have a solution for the lowering of voltage then do let me know. try it urself practically and see if am right or wrong.
I have no problem with your spelling, i tolerate that some people consider it unimportant to verify their spelling.
Honestly i don't care if you are right or wrong. What you suggest here has in my eyes nothing to do with Don Smith. I am after high COPs of 300 like in the picture of the Don Smith device that you have swapped the primary and secondary in to illustrate your energy "saving" concept.

But good luck with it.
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but we can use 5kv 110v to 110v transformer for home use and reduce bills.
since at resonance the transformer load(resistance) is negligible so power transfer is efficient. and u r billed less.

its just to save electricity bills.


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Old 08-11-2011, 03:59 PM
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too cool!
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Old 08-11-2011, 06:48 PM
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Hi there!

watch!

don smith working project!

COURTESY: MR. CLEAN.

kdkinen's Channel - YouTube

Don Smith Project Part 12: Getting dangerous - YouTube

SEE AND BELIEVE.

DONT LET PEOPLE DISHEARTEN U. U TOO CAN DO IT!
READ MY ALL POSTS. U WILL GET A GOOD UNDERSTANDING. AND THEN APPLY IT.

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Just a last note on correct measurements.
An AC clamp meter is made to measure ONLY 50-60 Hz AC currents.
It will not correctly work with pulsed DC of 30 kHz.
So all the clamp meter readings are false measurements.
Why does pretty much every guy fall into that trap.
It unnecessarily discredits the experiment.
Same reason Naudin believed to have OU in his Kapagen.
The spark gap creates enormous HF noise that cripples
all sensitive equipment's functionality (especially if you use it 20cm
next to the spark,but even 10 meters away).
For that purpose shielded 20k $ + equipment is being used.
There might be excess energy, but that has to measured differently
than with an AC clamp meter.
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Old 08-11-2011, 08:33 PM
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hI THERE!

THERE HAS TO BE A COMBO FOR OVER UNITY DEVICES.
A SPARK GAP + RESONANCE.

THEN U GET OU(OVERUNITY)

This is starting to become entertaining.
So all OU motor-based systems like Adams Motors, Muller Motors, Kromrey Converters or magnetic systems like Floyd Sweet's device or Kron's negative resistor or not to forget the Moray valve are NOT OU devices then according to you because they are lacking a spark gap ?
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Old 08-11-2011, 10:38 PM
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Zliano,

Do not be discouraged.

Keep up your efforts to educate those that wish to learn and try.

Regards, Penno

p.s. I asked a member from OU to have a look at your postings. Unfortuantely,
he does not have an account here and said he could not see the diagrams etc.
He is very good and I believe he has had limited success.
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Old 08-12-2011, 02:55 AM
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hI Penno!

thanks for the support. dont worry am not dettered easily. knowledge must be shared. and i will keep sharing. keep posting. people who dont try say it cant be done. am of the thinking when it cant be done then it must be done.
i never loose hope. failures do happen but they make u learn more.
edison tried 1000 times for electric bulb why cant we?

regards

zilano zeis zane
Hi guys, love the discussion.
i appreciate the reference to my vids.
I want to be clear that Im doing this build because Don had said himself that if we're interested in this device, & we wanted to actually see one in our lifetime...that we'd be better off building our own.

Don's credentials on top of his verbal recommendations...on top of his info, AND instruction, were enough for me to at least try it.
So far im enjoying the progress. From no light at first, to being able to burn out bulbs is very exciting.

Zilano, it seems you have done a lot of study, cant wait to see what comes out of your work
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Old 08-12-2011, 04:01 AM
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Hi Kurt,

Nice to see you here.

Have you made more progress on the REGENERATION (Hanes) gear?

If you're looking for someone to replicate your DS stuff, drop me an PM or just post it.

Have a good one,

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Old 08-12-2011, 07:14 AM
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hI MR.CLEAN!

u r using reverse tesla concept-thin primary more turns and thick sec less turns. don never mentioned it. but its the only way to free power.

regards

zilano zeis zane!
Yes, im not yet set on one or the other kind of primary, i like the idea of a heavy gauge wire, but have just had better results with the thinner high turn primary.
But i'll be able to tell even better with the B&W coils that should be here soon. I can tell the dinky copper tubing is holding back a lot of induction.
I look forward to your progress. any vids?
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:22 AM
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Don Smith replication & Thane Heins & Kapanadze plans

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Hi Kurt,

Nice to see you here.

Have you made more progress on the REGENERATION (Hanes) gear?

If you're looking for someone to replicate your DS stuff, drop me an PM or just post it.

Have a good one,

Penno
Thanks man i appreciate the welcome
Oh jeez i cant wait to build a massive vehicle-driving perepiteia/Thane Heins. I want to use a more functional horsepower motor, plus have HV coils that read in the hundreds of volts, not just 30 something volts
But the Don Smith was actually on the list first, & with electricity going up here, im eager to work on this one.
I also have what looks like the full schematic for the Kapanadze 9volt single pulse self-running 3-5kw deal. not the JLN.
Never lost faith in Don, his is simply a magnetic induction version of PATENT 336,961 & 336,962 being the improvement.
Kapa has even said he used a Tesla design Lol
The ONLY missing piece to the kapa is the k561 hex inverter, what that is & how to connect it. Then i will test the Kapa that SR193 & FreenergyLT have built.
I will make a schematic of the present state of my DS, but just never made one for this build, just used Teslas old 1880 something drawings but using induction instead of the armature...very easy, just tuning is not obvious to the eye, & just like the radio station, a bit over or below & it wont work.
I owe my results to the closeness in weight in copper of L1 & 2, not so much the length of wire, but im always learning.
* so ultimately big deal, you may go thru a bunch of L1s to find the right tune, but i think tuning could be done with perfect lengths alone to resonante, then use storage/smoothing caps somehow except caps have only diminished output for me so far... more experiments will tell:J
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:26 AM
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Hi kurt!

i havent made any vids till now. i want people to strive and learn and use brains first. coz if u give knowledge as a throwaway replicators can replicate easily but they wont know the idea and the basic behind the dons technology. let people learn. give them knowledge. but let people try it first themselves. i will be posting vids also but this is not right time. lets see no no members replicate with knowledge gained on here.lets see some progress !

though i have posted my crude circuit. my first attempt circuit which gave 250 v dc 2.5 kw output with 12 volt 120 watt input on here. i fine tuned it and scaled up to 10 kw 230-250 ac 50 hz.


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Wow buddy, cant wait to see that monster in action
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:32 AM
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To get overunity the input must be low(thin primary-high impedance) and secondary output(low impedance) high amps. this is the magic behind dons circuits. but don never disclosed this magic trick. people who saw dons designs made primary thick and secondary thin they had failures in output power. underunity. or unity. i call this REVERSE TESLA COIL. MAKE primary as secondary and secondary as primary. kapanadse got this idea and u can see his green box coil is based on don circuit. see my attachment in one of my posts dons smith pdf dated 1994 bottom circuit. the 6A coil 6 turns is same as dons circuit.

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zilano zeis zane
very cool, yes im trying all different combinations
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Old 08-12-2011, 10:48 AM
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Hi there!

How do you guys ground these setups on the output side?
Using a extra grounding rod? Don shows a diodecapacitor to keep the voltage on the output high, any experiences with this?

I'm still thinking not using a sparkgap but a sa to keep voltage and currents at a usable maximum on the primairy coil. A sg generates more power but with these amplifications on power output it seems to me that we could do with less output.. 150watt input and 10kw output... Pff if i can fry potatos i'm already happy

Also should the power cap bank be of a specific type?

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zilano and mr. clean,

Did you use some special technique when using different gauge/type wire to get resonance between them, like measuring length, or weighing the wire to get 1/4 the size? Or did you just use caps only to bring them into resonance? I rebuilt my primary using the same wire as my secondary both are thin now and I seem to be getting better results. My second set of coils are drying now and will work on them later today. Will try thicker gauge output on my second set of coils this weekend. Thanks for your help guys
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Old 08-12-2011, 01:09 PM
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The ONLY missing piece to the kapa is the k561 hex inverter, what that is & how to connect it. Then i will test the Kapa that SR193 & FreenergyLT have built.
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Hi mr.clean,

The Russian K561 IC family corresponds to the CMOS 4000 IC family. There are further letters and numbers in the type designation so you have to know it to pick an equivalent CD4000 type.
My earlier findings showed that K561LA7 was involved which is exactly a CD4011. Others say it is k561LN2 which is a CD4069, a hex inverter indeed, (the CD4011 is a hex NAND gate).

Because the K561 is believed to function as an astable RC oscillator at 50 Hertz, any of the two CMOS ICs can be used of course. Here is a supposed schematics on the 50 Hz square wave oscillator:
vapaaenergia.phpbb.fi • katso viestiketjua - Georgialaisen maapatteri and go down to the middle of that long page.

Here is info on the K561 IC series:
Sowjetische CMOS-Schaltkreise

(Of course some rules for the CMOS handling and operating should be observed like all the unused INPUT pins of the CMOS IC should be tied to the most negative supply voltage i.e. to that of pin 7.)

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Old 08-12-2011, 01:11 PM
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Hi Zilano:

Thanks for your info. In your "reverse Tesla coil" used as stepdown transformer are you doing bifiliar winding on primary(80 turns) or secondary(5 turns) or simple winding?
Antoher question: Is it your custom nst driver generating sine waves or pulses?
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:46 PM
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@zilano,

I have simulated the primair with a surge arrestor, when the primairy is in resonance the current builds between primairy capacitor and coil, pulsed with a nst. The surge arrestor does not work like a sparkgap and only limits voltage on a maxmum. With a nst and 4000v 30mAmps i simulated 2amps at 200v swinging through the primairy. So constant em field applied to the L2 coils.

I'm waiting for parts to test this.


So you have the nst sparking on a reverse teslacoil and you directly have more power on this output? Thus having high freq with 110 volts and high amps? How do you lower this output freq? Or is this coil on a 60hz lower freq harmonic resonating?

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Old 08-12-2011, 06:13 PM
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frequency downgrading: from khz to hz

u can use resistor or caps across secondary. but u must know voltage and amps for resistor so u can use proper wattage of resistor. if u using caps then u must know output voltage.

use page 23 of handbook of electronic tables book uploaded by me in one of my posts. there u find reactance chart.
WRONG

A lonely parallel resistor is not changing the frequency.
It is DRIVEN by the coil
Test it yourself, run a motor and use different parallel resistor values to one generator coil. Will that change the frequency you measure in the generator circuit across the resistor or the load?
Complete BS.

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Old 08-12-2011, 08:32 PM
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So the only ways are to charge a cap bank and use a sparkgap to get a bang at 60 hz or to use an inverter setup?

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Hi zilano

its sounds like a transverter by hector....but with HV
can u upload ur schematics more clearly ? please ??
i am very interested.. thanks & keep posting brother

sorry my bad english
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Old 08-13-2011, 12:36 AM
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Well, I did the reverse tesla coil, and now the output voltage is 450v and i'm getting a slight glow out of a 120v 6watt bulb, which is better then I was getting before However I don't have the capacitors to bring my coils down to 35khz. I could only get them down to 385khz. Would building a bigger coil help or would I have to throw more input to it?, I was only throwing 12.6v .30amps at it and pulsing the flyback with about 5.8khz dc 50% duty load. Still playing.
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Old 08-13-2011, 01:21 AM
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RESISTOR IS NOT LONELY. ITS IN RESONANCE TOO.( and inductors
have capacitance too)

the graph u plotted by u is not a resonating circuit. nomograph is based on resonance circuits. where xc=xL.
DO READ!
Again, you are driving the secondary of a transformer with a 30 kHz frequency.
The self resonance frequency of the secondary coil is in the Mega-Hertz range due to the very small inter-winding capacitance in the piko- to nanofarad range.
So first you will never hit resonance at all like this and second
even if you did, a parallel resistor does not magically change the driven and dominant frequency in the secondary circuit to 50/60 Hertz.
You simply don't know what you are talking about.
This is driven oscillator 101. The driving voltage will be across that resistor.

I did even try this experimentally with a resonant circuit back in the Don Smith hype days, because he came up with that frequency-correction resistor disinfo, and it does not work. Do the experiment, see for yourself. Don't just quote Smith.
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Old 08-13-2011, 02:05 AM
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Hi there!

WELL turns thickness and gauge and length dont matter all matters is rightt caps
u can oscillate 1 inch of wire at 30 khz( not natural frequency of coil) but LC combination. frequency changes when c attached to coil. so here we oscillating combination not just a coil.
moreover LCR meter tells c also of coil. add it to the oecillating parameter so total c is value is suitable for the applied frequency. frequency will remain same and not shoot to mhz !

i have not used natural resonant frequency of coils. we r feeding oscillating power so we force resonate coils. when caps added resonant frequency of coil changes.

we make L slave with capacitor and make it oscillate and dance on 30 khz in my case.and whole circuit dances at 30 khz.

regards

zilano zeis zane

lets understand
oscillatory dance!
In #145 you stated:
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frequency downgrading: from khz to hz

u can use resistor or caps across secondary. but u must know voltage and amps for resistor so u can use proper wattage of resistor. if u using caps then u must know output voltage.
And in your following post, you also referred to a resistor without an additional cap.

Of course you can change the resonance frequency of the secondary circuit with additional caps. My point is a single resistor will not do it alone.
Smith was wrong about this.
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Old 08-13-2011, 02:06 AM
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dont worry abt frequency keep it as it is. and dont use cap it will increase voltage.

congrtats! u r learning well!
What do yo mean by don't use cap? With out a caps i can't match resonance.

and thanks
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