Bedini-Lindemann 2013 Science & Technology Conference

Bedini SG - The Complete Intermediate Handbook

Energetic Forum  

Go Back   Energetic Forum > Energetic Forum Discussion > Renewable Energy
Homepage Energetic Science Ministries Register FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Renewable Energy Discussion on various alternative energy, renewable energy, & free energy technologies. Also any discussion about the environment, global warming, and other related topics are welcome here.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #6751 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2012, 08:39 AM
boguslaw's Avatar
boguslaw boguslaw is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,940
Electricity is nothing more but sound in ether or radio waves (the true one).
Air is less dense and contains a lot of ions which reacts to the ether sound waves, but the same happen in metals which react if contain free electrons.
Radiant energy is a combined effect of ether sound wave of one direction only (important!) and the result of propagation of it in a envinronment full of charges.
The only difference I think between radiant energy and RF radiation I think is the unipolar propagation. There is no different electricity just the unknown usage of long time existing effects.

Think about it that way :
in nature there are effects of steady state mode when two forces are in equilibrium, there are second range of "ringing down" effects and those are the most common.
Surely there are effects of "ringing up" or accumulation or magnification of energy or rather power and fortunately they are rare. I'm talking about all those disasters like explosions or parametric excitations. Simply - if they would be so frequent as other are we could not live so long. All sudden failures of unknown source are probably manifestations of those hidden effects.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6752 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2012, 08:51 AM
VasiliyBuslaev VasiliyBuslaev is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 26
Yes boguslaw, this wave is similar to the sound. In nature, all alike.
The problem of energy production - is the task of producing such waves.
Moreover, it is necessary to achieve the standing waves in the system.

B. R.
Vasiliy
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6753 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2012, 09:18 AM
Itsu's Avatar
Itsu Itsu is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 75
suggestions

Hi TanTric,

Quote:
Hi Itsu, allow me to give you some suggestions based in my experiments..
thanks for your suggestions, they are noted.

I use a copper pipe/tube inside my smaller Kacher, so could try that.

Quote:
ps: All credits go to the great woopy
I agree


Regards Itsu.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6754 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2012, 09:21 AM
Itsu's Avatar
Itsu Itsu is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 75
Hi TheStone,

Nice gear you have there.

Not sure what you mean by:
Quote:
I get about 23 more voltage that I have coming in...
Anyway, the FG has an impedance of 50 Ohm only, and when connected to the coil will probably cause some spikes/peaks on the square wave which the scope sees/measures.

Looking at channel 2, i see you are in resonance by the looks of the nice sine wave.

I always couple the FG signal into a coil by a 2 turn coil between the + and - of the FG, so not "connect" to the coil.
This way the 50 Ohm of the FG does not "load" the coil under test.

For how to use this voltage, i would advice to look at mr.clean his setup/video's.

Regards Itsu.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6755 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2012, 09:28 AM
Itsu's Avatar
Itsu Itsu is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 75
Hi Patrick,

Quote:
Great video - your style of presentation and methodical approach are first class - well done !!
Thanks, much appreciated, allthough i personally feel it is off topic here, but i will try to work towards a Don Smith arrangement using my kachers as the HV source.

PM noted and answered.

Regards Itsu.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6756 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2012, 11:17 AM
harishsingh harishsingh is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 81
Quote:
Originally Posted by VasiliyBuslaev View Post
Hi, harishsingh, Hi all

point-7. P.Lindeman, I read his monograph.
I have a point of view:
The local pressure difference of the ether creates movement of electric charges. That's why electrification took place on the metal objects.
We are talking about clean ether, there was no ionization. Tesla attached a specially streamlined terminals on system to prevent losses due to ionization.
In addition, mr.P.L, has led the story of two teachers who ran inside the building, where they received an electric shock on the doors handles.
I think it is clear that the ionization is not able to operate at such distances.

Best Regards
Vasiliy

Hi Vasiliy and All,
Tesla made notes on colors excited from matter due to radiant energy from orange to purple and hues of blue. This is what I was referring to.

Quote:
The local pressure difference of the ether creates movement of electric charges.
This too is a by product of the reaction with the vacuum.

Quote:
Tesla attached a specially streamlined terminals on system to prevent losses due to ionization.
Please post more details about this streamlined terminals. It could be very important for me.



Tesla writes about this ray gun,
'PROJECTING CONCENTRATED NON-DISPERSIVE ENERGY THROUGH
NATURAL MEDIA',

- Electro-static repulsion was the only means to this end and apparatus of stupendous force would have to be developed, but granted that sufficient speed and energy could be realized with a single row of minute bodies then there would be no dispersion whatever even at great distance. Since the cross section of the carriers might be reduced to almost microscopic dimensions an immense concentration of energy, irrespective of distance, could be attained.

...

The successful carrying out of the plan involves a number of more or less important improvements but the principal among these include the following:

1. A new form of high vacuum tube open to the atmosphere.

2. Provisions for imparting to a minute particle an extremely high charge.

3. A new terminal of relatively small dimensions and enormous potential.

4. An electro-static generator on a new principle and of very great power.

"The New Art of Projecting Concentrated Non-dispersive Energy Through Natural Media"

Apparently, deadly Soviet weapons were based on technology called 'Scalar Interferometer' according to Tom Bearden.


Regards,
HS
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6757 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2012, 11:18 AM
VasiliyBuslaev VasiliyBuslaev is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 26
Questions for Patrick

Hi, Patrick, hi all

Dear Patrick, I have three questions for you.
1) In the diagram, the device of Donald Smith, you specify different options for connecting a spark gap, which of them corresponds to a real device to Smith?
2) Have you met with Donald in person. If yes, then you're good to see his devices?
3) This is an question of a colleague of one of our forums about typos:
"....Patrick. J.Kelly writes on page 3-63: "You should pay attention to a very clear description of it (" quarter-wave "resonance), which gives Richard Quick in a section of his patent, which is included later in this chapter." And on page 3-84 is a confusing number of available - "U.S. Patent 7,793,296 on 5th July 2011," instead of 7,973,296. And as Attorney available for Richard Quick perform someone: Patrick.D.Kelly. Also a typo?...."

Thank you for your answers.

B. R.
Vasiliy

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi, harishsingh

Quote:
Please post more details about this streamlined terminals. It could be very important for me
That's a lot in the works of Tesla, especially in the diaries of Colorado Springs.
Tesla wrote about the energy loss by ionization.
In Tesla's many inventions, first you must decide - what interests you.
Harish, are you going to build a Tesla cannon?(joke)
Ok, I'm look in detail for you

P.S. however, we deviate from the topic of forum - I hope we do not greatly interfere.

B. R.
Vasiliy

Last edited by VasiliyBuslaev : 07-11-2012 at 11:50 AM. Reason: -
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6758 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2012, 01:03 PM
Patrick Kelly Patrick Kelly is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Suffolk, UK
Posts: 76
Don Smith details

Quote:
Originally Posted by VasiliyBuslaev View Post
Hi, Patrick, hi all

Dear Patrick, I have three questions for you.
1) In the diagram, the device of Donald Smith, you specify different options for connecting a spark gap, which of them corresponds to a real device to Smith?
2) Have you met with Donald in person. If yes, then you're good to see his devices?
3) This is an question of a colleague of one of our forums about typos:
"....Patrick. J.Kelly writes on page 3-63: "You should pay attention to a very clear description of it (" quarter-wave "resonance), which gives Richard Quick in a section of his patent, which is included later in this chapter." And on page 3-84 is a confusing number of available - "U.S. Patent 7,793,296 on 5th July 2011," instead of 7,973,296. And as Attorney available for Richard Quick perform someone: Patrick.D.Kelly. Also a typo?...."

Thank you for your answers.

B. R.
Vasiliy

Hi Vasiliy,

1. I understand that Don Smith experimented with many different configurations, and so I believe that all of the configurations which I show are correct, BUT please remember that my eBook is just my (inexperienced) opinion, much of which is suggestions for possible experiments and testing, and NOT by any means the hard and fast only option. Gathering information on Don Smith's devices has proved very difficult, but thanks to the kind contributions of several people, comprising one pdf, one circuit diagram and four video lectures, I have managed to gather together what I understand to be a reasonably accurate description of what Don said. My eBook is only intended to help newcomers to the field of free-energy get up to speed as quickly as possible, and it most definitely does not contain all of the answers to all of the questions.

2. I never did meet with the late Don Smith. He had suffered several serious strokes before I ever hear of him. I have never seen any of his prototype devices. He lived on a different continent to me.

3. Thank you for pointing out the patent number typo for the Richard Quick patent. I will correct it as soon as possible. As far as I am aware, the Patrick D. Kelly in the patent is not a typo. There is no connection between me and that Patrick D. Kelly.

Patrick
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6759 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2012, 01:36 PM
VasiliyBuslaev VasiliyBuslaev is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Kelly View Post
Hi Vasiliy,

1. I understand that Don Smith experimented with many different configurations, and so I believe that all of the configurations which I show are correct, BUT please remember that my eBook is just my (inexperienced) opinion, much of which is suggestions for possible experiments and testing, and NOT by any means the hard and fast only option. Gathering information on Don Smith's devices has proved very difficult, but thanks to the kind contributions of several people, comprising one pdf, one circuit diagram and four video lectures, I have managed to gather together what I understand to be a reasonably accurate description of what Don said. My eBook is only intended to help newcomers to the field of free-energy get up to speed as quickly as possible, and it most definitely does not contain all of the answers to all of the questions.

2. I never did meet with the late Don Smith. He had suffered several serious strokes before I ever hear of him. I have never seen any of his prototype devices. He lived on a different continent to me.

3. Thank you for pointing out the patent number typo for the Richard Quick patent. I will correct it as soon as possible. As far as I am aware, the Patrick D. Kelly in the patent is not a typo. There is no connection between me and that Patrick D. Kelly.

Patrick
Thank you for your detailed answers. Yes, really sorry that you have not met with the mr. Smith.
I hope my questions were not too intrusive.

Thanks

Vasiliy
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6760 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2012, 02:06 PM
TheStone TheStone is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 24
Send a message via Skype™ to TheStone
Quote:
Originally Posted by soundiceuk View Post
@ Olo

You will all be pleased to know that Bruce A. Perreault's 2nd Edition - Direct Electrical Power from The Utilization of Earth IONS will provide a simple proof of concept schematic, photograph and video.
Hi SoundiceUK

I tried to google the book, but cant find it, do you have a link to buy it, or download the book.
Thanks,
The Stone.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6761 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2012, 03:15 PM
harishsingh harishsingh is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 81
Hi Visiliy and All,
Quote:
Originally Posted by VasiliyBuslaev View Post
In Tesla's many inventions, first you must decide - what interests you.
That's easy. I would like to know other types of energy. Aliens would laugh really really hard if they see the space shuttle and rockets.

Quote:
Harish, are you going to build a Tesla cannon?(joke)
I know how to build cannons - of electrons - that mean something. Tesla would love that. Morgan, not so much.

Don Smith is cool too. His work is not going to be in vain.

Regards,
HS
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6762 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2012, 03:46 PM
TanTric's Avatar
TanTric TanTric is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 357
as you wish! i Forgot to say, your lamp is not working because at that stage you only have high voltage and low current in the system, and your low volt bulb needs some current to light up (curiously the motor also needs it but somehow it works very well)... but for that you need to wind a 10 turn pick up coil (stranded or solid), and atach your bulb to both ends of the coil, i am able to light a 12V 20W bulb with that method (at 12V ~1A)... will make a video soon...

Peace


Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsu View Post
Hi TanTric,


thanks for your suggestions, they are noted.

I use a copper pipe/tube inside my smaller Kacher, so could try that.



I agree


Regards Itsu.

Last edited by TanTric : 07-11-2012 at 03:55 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6763 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2012, 03:59 PM
harishsingh harishsingh is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 81
Don Smith free energy

Hi All,
This simple experiment shows the concept behind Don Smith's free energy. Make your coils to resonate at higher frequencies and enjoy the results.


Doubler of electricity with a single variable capacitor


Regards,
HS
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6764 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2012, 07:21 PM
Guruji Guruji is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 800
Cpacitors

Mr.Clean you tried to use the charge in those caps cause I tried the setup you told me to an SG and trafo but could not get enough charge to light a bulb
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6765 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2012, 02:10 AM
TheStone TheStone is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 24
Send a message via Skype™ to TheStone
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsu View Post
Hi TheStone,

Nice gear you have there.

Not sure what you mean by:

Anyway, the FG has an impedance of 50 Ohm only, and when connected to the coil will probably cause some spikes/peaks on the square wave which the scope sees/measures.

Looking at channel 2, i see you are in resonance by the looks of the nice sine wave.

I always couple the FG signal into a coil by a 2 turn coil between the + and - of the FG, so not "connect" to the coil.
This way the 50 Ohm of the FG does not "load" the coil under test.

For how to use this voltage, i would advice to look at mr.clean his setup/video's.

Regards Itsu.
Thanks a lot Itsu,

I been looking for mr clean videos, and cant find any, do you by any change have a link...?

I will like to know how to make this voltage useful, and start from it. I am guessing with some capacitors...

The Stone.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6766 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2012, 04:51 AM
tagor tagor is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheStone View Post
Hi SoundiceUK

I tried to google the book, but cant find it, do you have a link to buy it, or download the book.
Thanks,
The Stone.
the book is here :

SonoMagnetics™ Online Store
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6767 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2012, 06:05 AM
mr.clean's Avatar
mr.clean mr.clean is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: calgary ab. canada
Posts: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheStone View Post
Thanks a lot Itsu,

I been looking for mr clean videos, and cant find any, do you by any change have a link...?

I will like to know how to make this voltage useful, and start from it. I am guessing with some capacitors...

The Stone.
hi buddy, very flattered to be referred to, i dont claim to have all the answers, but i am seeing some good results recently.

im kdkinen on youtube, heres my most recent
Don Smith Device Project Part 33: full watt bulb vs Smith stepdown comparison - YouTube

next i plan to parallel the caps up to the run battery while running and see if i can run the system, the bulb, and watch an increase in run battery voltage while using the caps as a buffer.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6768 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2012, 06:27 AM
mr.clean's Avatar
mr.clean mr.clean is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: calgary ab. canada
Posts: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guruji View Post
Mr.Clean you tried to use the charge in those caps cause I tried the setup you told me to an SG and trafo but could not get enough charge to light a bulb
could u be more specific, the no coil board? maybe forget the transformer, and try the light right to pos and neg on cap, and prob a dc bulb would be best

if your volts are too high then i would step down before caps, like my last vid
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6769 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2012, 06:49 AM
TheStone TheStone is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 24
Send a message via Skype™ to TheStone
Quote:
Originally Posted by tagor View Post
THANK YOU!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6770 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2012, 11:47 AM
Guruji Guruji is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 800
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr.clean View Post
could u be more specific, the no coil board? maybe forget the transformer, and try the light right to pos and neg on cap, and prob a dc bulb would be best

if your volts are too high then i would step down before caps, like my last vid
Yes I am not using coils right now. Can you please send a link of your last vid?
Thanks for response.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6771 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2012, 01:48 PM
mr.clean's Avatar
mr.clean mr.clean is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: calgary ab. canada
Posts: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guruji View Post
Yes I am not using coils right now. Can you please send a link of your last vid?
Thanks for response.
im pretty sure youve seen it,
Don Smith Device Project Part 33: full watt bulb vs Smith stepdown comparison - YouTube

you see the caps im using are very low voltage, so it would be very easy to overvolt them,

you could hit it as hard as you can and it wont charge because it is arcing internally and also prob isnt getting rectified properly.

so the voltage needed to be reduced by a resonant step down config, and in doing so, the respective current is converted up, and the high freq ring of L2 is harvested along with this now lower voltage and higher current can be captured.
these things you prob know, but that is the reason i did not just go from my driver straight to diodes and caps, it would lack the CURRENT needed to drive at least tens of watts... then add the caps, and you will certainly have the bulb lit.

there is some unconventional stuff happening, from the current in and out that im seeing, but ultimately we do still need to see the power out required BEFORE we add caps,
because although there is some "magic" going on here, the magic happens for a reason, it wont just "automatically" power anything you want.... that WILL be the plan.... but if you dont have the power for the bulb, it only means that you need more power

and 1 or 2 uf is not sufficient, you may be able to charge them, but the bulb will use it in a flash, and you will still need at least the power to satisfy the bulb before you add caps, you could wire one end of load to ground and the other to HV (without caps) just to make sure what power you are putting in the caps... then you could add the caps you want.

BUT if however you ARE putting in a lot (to me thats over 1 amp LOL ) and the output is the same or less than the input, (then its redundant lol)

..then its just a matter of tuning, obviously if you have no coils to tune, then it is surely even simpler, prob just need the voltage lowered into the range that your cap can handle not too big of a prob

And once the volts are lower and current higher, i see the gain here as being the higher freq, ( yours would be from freq AND ground contribution : )

i have found its priceless to have a good quality driver from the start, my ignition coils werent able to provide it, but the PVM500 im using is expensive, the PVM12 is still a great little driver, and the latter is the one i used with great success on the coilless board... but also the caps were 2000v @ 40uF, could have put more caps in series for higher voltage rating, but...

...i was still faced with stepping down, so i know this doesnt help as you want to avoid coils lol, but thats why i opted for a resonant stepdown (as most soft cores cant handle the freq) and then capture, because i dont feel like having that much voltage at the output to deal with when current is what i need you will see that with single higher wattage bulbs, this is inevitable, you need low volts, and high current for a bulb, then you really see what your system is doing, you may be pleased, maybe not hehe, BUT all workable man, dont worry

I still may use the last setup to go onto the other stepup coils i tuned in past vids,
Don Smith Device Project Part 27: Center-Tap Revival, and Caduceus L1 Resonant At All Frequencies - YouTube

but if no benefit, then i'll stick to the setup in vid 33 , optimize and finalize it

Last edited by mr.clean : 07-12-2012 at 02:39 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6772 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2012, 04:00 PM
harishsingh harishsingh is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 81
Don Smith free energy

Quote:
Originally Posted by harishsingh View Post
Hi All,
This simple experiment shows the concept behind Don Smith's free energy. Make your coils to resonate at higher frequencies and enjoy the results.


Doubler of electricity with a single variable capacitor


Regards,
HS
All,

The magic of this experiment is explained here.






And, since the learned folks have taken the 5th and the subject is relevant to Don Smith, as it is to all free energy devices, I am forced to correct some misstatements about the alleged "Tesla attached a specially streamlined terminals on system to prevent losses due to ionization."


Tesla said in his Colorado experiments notes,

"What I strove for seemed unattainable, but a kind fate favored me and a few inspired experiments lifted the veil. It was a revelation wonderful and incredible explaining many mysteries of nature and disclosing as in a lightening flash the illusionary character of some modem theories incidentally also bearing out the universal truth of the above axiom."

"In his experiments he dwells first on some phenomena produced by electrostatic force, which he considers in the light of modern theories to be the most important force in nature for us to investigate. At the very outset he shows a strikingly novel experiment illustrating the effect of a rapidly varying electrostatic force in a gaseous medium, by touching with one hand one of the terminals of a 200,000 volt transformer and bringing then other hand to the opposite terminal. The powerful streamers which issued from his hand and astonished his audiences formed a capital illustration of some of the views advanced, and afforded Mr. Tesla an opportunity of pointing out the true reasons why, with these currents, such an amount of energy can be passed through the body with impunity. He then showed by experiment the difference between a steady and a rapidly varying force upon the dielectric. This difference is most strikingly illustrated in the experiment in which a bulb attached to the end of a wire in connection with one of the terminals of the transformer is ruptured, although all extraneous bodies are remote from the bulb. He next illustrates how mechanical motions are produced by a varying electrostatic force acting through a gaseous medium. The importance of the action of the air is particularly illustrated by an interesting experiment."

I don't blame the moneybags for playing fast and loose with facts to preserve the energy lie.

Regards,
HS
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6773 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2012, 06:20 PM
TheStone TheStone is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 24
Send a message via Skype™ to TheStone
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsu View Post
Hi TheStone,

I always couple the FG signal into a coil by a 2 turn coil between the + and - of the FG, so not "connect" to the coil.
This way the 50 Ohm of the FG does not "load" the coil under test.

Regards Itsu.
Hi Itsu, thanks for the info!, I read it several times, my english may not be to good, but I cant understand well what you mean.

Do you mean "place a two turn coil in parallel with the output of the FG" ? plus do NOT place a 50 ohms resistor to the red output of the FG ?

The coil can be any wire size? like a toroid choke ?

Thanks again,
The Stone.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6774 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2012, 06:42 PM
TheStone TheStone is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 24
Send a message via Skype™ to TheStone
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr.clean View Post
hi buddy, very flattered to be referred to, i dont claim to have all the answers, but i am seeing some good results recently.

im kdkinen on youtube, heres my most recent
Don Smith Device Project Part 33: full watt bulb vs Smith stepdown comparison - YouTube

next i plan to parallel the caps up to the run battery while running and see if i can run the system, the bulb, and watch an increase in run battery voltage while using the caps as a buffer.
Hey man, thanks for your replay!! I see you have done lots of good work and share it with all

I am begining on this road, I got me some B&M coils, and looks liket the one with more turns and thiner wire, is the one when in resonance give me out more voltage out. the thing is I am trying to see how can I make this voltage useful, I am guessing with capacitors.

What will be your experience ?

As you see in the fotos :





I havent couple correctly the coil with the FG, need to do that to...

Thank you very much,
The Stone.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6775 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2012, 08:58 PM
Itsu's Avatar
Itsu Itsu is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 75
FG couple

Hi Stone,

Quote:
Do you mean "place a two turn coil in parallel with the output of the FG"
Yes, just take some wire and make a 2 turn coil out of it the same size as the coil you want to measure.
Then loosly couple (wrap the 2 turns around) the measuring coil.

Your FG output impedance is 50 Ohm (like most/all FG's) so now it is not connected directly to the measuring coil and this one now can freely resonate on its own frequency (measure with your scope).

I can make a video if you like, but its really not that complicated.

Regards Itsu
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6776 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2012, 09:08 PM
TheStone TheStone is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 24
Send a message via Skype™ to TheStone
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr.clean View Post
hi buddy, very flattered to be referred to, i dont claim to have all the answers, but i am seeing some good results recently.

im kdkinen on youtube, heres my most recent
Don Smith Device Project Part 33: full watt bulb vs Smith stepdown comparison - YouTube

next i plan to parallel the caps up to the run battery while running and see if i can run the system, the bulb, and watch an increase in run battery voltage while using the caps as a buffer.
Hi Amigo,

I was looking at your video, very interesting, I just bougt the same plasma driver I see you have, do you have a schematic that you can share ? as I see you have too the B&M coils, which models you have ?



The Stone.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6777 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2012, 09:17 PM
TheStone TheStone is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 24
Send a message via Skype™ to TheStone
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsu View Post
Hi Stone,

I can make a video if you like, but its really not that complicated.

Regards Itsu
Hi Itsu,

Thanks for the time to answer my pots, I think the problem is trying to visualize what you write, english is not my natural language... specially with technical terms, normal english I dont have much problem.

If is not to much trouble, I really apreciate a video

Sincerely:
The Stone.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6778 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2012, 10:19 PM
Itsu's Avatar
Itsu Itsu is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 75
Video

Ok Stone,


Quote:
If is not to much trouble, I really apreciate a video
Here a video, hopefully you got the picture

resonance frequency of a coil - YouTube


Regards itsu
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6779 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2012, 11:56 PM
TheStone TheStone is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 24
Send a message via Skype™ to TheStone
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsu View Post
Ok Stone,

Here a video, hopefully you got the picture

resonance frequency of a coil - YouTube


Regards itsu
Ahhh!!! thanks for taking the time and making the video, very instructive! I can picture now!! I will play with it, to see what responses I get, with your method.

Sincerely,
The Stone.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
  #6780 (permalink)  
Old 07-13-2012, 01:17 AM
mr.clean's Avatar
mr.clean mr.clean is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: calgary ab. canada
Posts: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheStone View Post
Hi Amigo,

I was looking at your video, very interesting, I just bougt the same plasma driver I see you have, do you have a schematic that you can share ? as I see you have too the B&M coils, which models you have ?



The Stone.
The B&W coils im using are 2404TL, and have a couple 2408TL's and a 2410TL
120$ per coil
ive also used 3408, the 4 inch dia mamas, at 500$ per coil


But dont be fooled by tinned coils and high prices, you can make a very good coil on your own, Dynatron says that bare copper is best.
I just wanted to have the ones that Don used,..... just because i wanted them LOL

the 24 means 3 inch dia, last 2 digits represent the turns per inch 04, 08, 10, and the TL means tinned inductor

AND you have the PVM500, you definitely have most of what you need, im still experimenting with exact values, but il have a schem soon, but in my last vid 33 i feel i show the connections well, let me know.

primary circuit has 15nF with 601uH 102turns tuned to 53 khz.
secondary needs no caps, but has a little more than 10nF with 40uH 18 turns tuned to approx 212 khz.
im actually using 26.5khz on the driver, 53khz actually works with such resistance that it practically seizes right up,

i can actually turn it up to 95volts, and it only draws 100ma, but like i said, such resistance, not much action, with 26.5khz worked best ( half of 53khz)
L1 being tuned to 2 times the driver freq and L2 being tuned to 3 times the driver freq (harmonics)

In music if you take a note and go up an octave, it is still the same note (tone) just exactly doubled, or trippled the frequency, still "in tune"
Seems to work great

Last edited by mr.clean : 07-13-2012 at 01:28 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post! share on MyspaceShare on FacebookTweet this thread
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 11:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8
2007 Copyright ? Energetic Forum? A Non Profit Corporation - All Rights Reserved