Hello again T-1000 and all. In answerer to your question about the type of coils I used thry are the very same off the shelf coils that don smith used in the majority of his coil builds due to quality of product and availability. why try to make it when what has already been used works well. The L-1 coil is a bit expensive but when you consider that one of that particular coil can make three L-1's for duplicate backups of the same device. just an observation on my part. as always, enjoy and progress to a fruitful end. mike. onward!

Well said.

The problem is although most of us are working toward the same goal, there are many different paths being taken. Some may succeed, some may fail. I have slightly different ideas on almost every circuit I see. When I build, I'll incorporate the successful ideas with mine. If something works, I'll post results, if not, the whole group isn't heading down the wrong road.
Anyway, that's the way I see it.

hi buddy great to see your vid,
Although it kinda blended into the background wires
But one thing ive heard is: a cluttered bench is a bench in USE

Mine is pretty bad off camera

Hey iam a huge believer in this coilless concept, and had Outstanding results with good grounds i mentioned before, anyway one thing ive seen from working on this is the cap and gap on the primary can be removed and go straight to Diodes and then your pos on the charging cap.

And due to the fact that you prob have 2 HV terminals, go to 2 parallel circuits, ignore the neg cycles, just the pos side of caps, then Earth the negatives. ..then a voltmeter to watch the volts climb, fun stuff to see your caps doing what you want them to do eh
I had Great results with similar setup, but using a Single HV terminal from the flyback, and just diodes to pos side.

You definitely have charging happening,
and it looks like that cap was becoming so full it would jump the 2nd gap you had (that u were shorting time to time)

id love to see the vid more clearly, maybe you just need more light and it would focus

Nice work!
I'll put together a setup of this too, really interested in trying this, (as its shown here)

OH one more thing... you gotta tell me... do you notice a difference withOut the "antenna" on fwbr?
That would really be cool if in fact the antenna placed there helped

Im not going anywhere buddy, or stopping anything
And i hope to have been a benefit in some way

I appreciate that man, im trying to follow along too, and yes diodes have really mattered,
actually i had a serious diode meltdown the other day, two fwbr's i had on both L2's went up in violent nasty smoke while charging the caps i show in my newest vid 33
Don Smith Device Project Part 33: full watt bulb vs Smith stepdown comparison - YouTube

cool that you liked it, i wish it was my vid, but looks Very promising for the multiple Remote secondary board.

yeah no biggie about the typo, im not concerned with experimental values anyway, everyones coils are different
but i find you cant go wrong with a good 5nf on L1, seems to get a ring out of all coils ive used, but i have 15nf on L1 right now

and hey, the Plasma Tube design works as well...
don smith plasma tube experiment - YouTube

Further credibility to Don?

hi people, just did another vid on the 20 watt bulb comparison with control battery voltage to assure no unfairness

Don Smith Device Project Part 33: full watt bulb vs Smith stepdown comparison - YouTube

i think ihave at least convinced myself, so next will try a calorimeter test as well as cap charging while powering the bulb.

then possibly close the loop by way of paralleling the 15v cap bank with light, up to the run battery, and see how much i can load it before it affects cap charging

Hi,

To those who have not liked my interjections here (as if I am a spoiler of empiricism) I say "grow up". As an empiricist myself I have been trying to mentor, not hinder.

I have commented about aetherial concepts and hypotheses quite incapable of holding together in the real world, and if they cannot stand my challenges (as for suggestions of accurately smoothed and *calibrated* metering, or of the calorific examinations detailed by others above) then outcomes won't hold together anywhere else either.

There needs to be thought at fundamental level about what anyone is attempting to achieve, and less blind following of those who have been making INCORRECT or UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS, for I have become quite fed up of seeing genuine experimenters within this forum MISLED !!!

I was particularly pleased to see an 'Energetic' 'Thorium' based thread this morning and would especially ask everyone to read the Patent mentioned here -

I had to type the Patent number in separately because the link did not work.

Please note this Patent covers ELECTRONS and PHOTONS, and not the fundamentally incorrect and entirely misleading expressions of Hot and Cold electricity used in hundreds of posts here.

Electrically energised energy either propagates via free electron exchange in a conductor (generating a magnetic field) or electrons radiate their energy photonically via free space or air or matter, and that energy continues (or may be guided) until it impinges (is transduced or deflected by) another substance related electron.

Also that mentioned Gustav LeBon book is a free Google download, and should be read by everyone here (as indeed did TH Moray himself) in order to gain some understanding of where 'free energy' really does come from - The Sea of Energy - for far too many incorrect suggestions in this regard have also been misleading experimenters here.

Conversely, you may believe what you were taught in school and that energy comes from the Aether we live in, though then your search is most unlikely to be fruitful.

The successful empiricist imagineers towards concepts, but if his/her foundations are not sound, their constructions will not be sound either.

Cheers ........... Graham.

Hi all folks.

Congrats Mr.Clean and Woopy for your progress ! Sure you two are ahead of the crowd here.
@Fathershand
Thanks for your input, much appreciated. I`ll add to what you said that if this guy/girl whoever he/she is is affraid to do it as an open source release coz there might be well based reasons to do so
than, I would encourage them to release the info anonymously. If they cannot do this themselves me and some other folks here will be glad to do this taking the risk to ourselves.

@GSM (Graham)
Thanks for your input too.
Now let me please tell some things.
About terms of hot and cold photons or whatever might take place in some free energy devices, personally I do not give a damn as long as I could do the same Don and other inventors did. I mean : If I can get that power gain like Don Smith did with his devices, why I should put so much emphasis on how that form of energy might be called ? I am not the Creator myself to tell the tale or truth, and I am not mother Nature to know "it`s secrets" !
I would like to kindly please you to keep on-topic, our friend. I say this because you have a tendency to direct this topic to natural or artificial 'radiation' of matter and/or dissociation of it. This is not bad in itself, and for me to know more about this I asked you to point me somewhere to study for this, but here in this topic we are dealing with Don`s devices and not Radiation which is out of the scope of this thread.
Don`t take me wrong, I don`t post this to offend you. We all see further for your input.
Thanks.Regards.

Hi Mr.clean thanks for your appreciation. I asked you on the vid but anyway we can communicate here too.
I am very pleased that you did the same experiment with good results.
Yes my basement is full of wires; batteries and all that crap that you've saw in the background LOL
Regarding the circuit so you mean just use the ZVS flyback direct to diodes? and filling the MOcaps? If you can post a schematic I will understand better.
Good idea to try it without antenna.
Ok I'll do this too.
Thanks

hi man, im bad with the drawings here, but yes, HV terminal, to diodes, to positive on cap, Earth ground neg on cap, put voltmeter across cap terminals, watch volts climb then compare charging speed vs frequency and input current.

You have yourself an "open" system, where as Einstein has himself said, closed systems are subject to Ohms law, where open systems are not entirely limited to the energy in the circuit.

I was able to get .3 amps draw at 12v at all conditions, open and loaded, with almost the same speed as the double helix board using the massive 2000volt caps @ 40uF.
excellent grounding and diodes were critical

have some one checked out this:-
Kacher_Brovine_Tesla_System.mp4 - YouTube

Woopy specially for u as u seem to be experimenting with katcher

thanks
atta

Interesting this Mr.Clean with or without coils are same speed for charging.
Did you do an antenna to your FWBR?
The problem now on my side how I'm going to use these full caps for a load. I tried to hook four 400v caps to lower charge to source batts but these caps began to make certain sound and thought they were going to explode.
I will try a heating element and see.

cool, 12v halogens seem to work the best on the step down coil, but as you have HV, maybe a series of them at the wattage you are inputing, then see if you can burn them out with less power than would be needed to do so.

i wouldnt touch the bare output to a battery, it will over volt the battery and arc internally, but you could more safely pulse it at 60hz with a stepdown transformer once theres overflow in the caps.
Simply set your sparkgap firing to a speed where you can barely see it blinking, because the eye cant see faster than 60hz, its easy to find that freq, then put you load onto it, or your stepdown trafo,
..is what i would try
also a handy thing is 16miliSeconds on the scope is 60hz as well

Oh and like i mentioned, the diodes were critical, i had a string of 10 ultra fast recovery 1000v3A diodes, and the caps would NOT charge... i added 2 more of the long 30kv20mA diodes from amazing1.com in parallel and it began charging BIGTIME.

the freq had a sweetspot, and i had 3 grounds, 30ft spaced, 3ft into the ground, very close to the salt water on the west coast, just like paralleling resistors... more paths to flow...less resistance...more direct connection... better charging with each ground added

and voila an "open"system,not limited merely to the energy in the circuit,but open to external factors

if i can find a good enough ground at my place i will definitely re-build that

Seems this phenomenon has been known for a long time.

Canadian Breakthrough in Power Generation

Non-Polluting Electrical Power from Pulsed Cold Plasmas Delivers More Power than it COnsumes. Prepares for Manufacturing Development . Fully Protected by Recently granted American, British, and Israeli Patents


Dr. Paulo Correa, M.Sc., Ph.D., Partner and Director of Research at Labofex- Experimental and Applied Plasma Physics of Concord, Ontario and Partner Alexandra Correa, (Hon) BA are today announcing a significant breakthrough in the field of clean power generation. The technical basis for the extraction process has been a carefully guarded secret until full disclosure was secured through the granting of three US patents: US Patent #'s 5,416,391, issued on May 16, 1995 and entitled "Electromechanical Transduction of Plasma Pulses"; 5,449,989, issued September 12, 1995, entitled "Energy Conversion System" and 5,502,354, issued on March 26, 1996, entitled "Direct Current Energized Pulse Generator Utilizing Autogenous Cyclical Pulsed Abnormal Glow Discharges". The Correa grid-independent Energy Conversion System utilizes an energy reactor whose function is based upon heretofore unknown spontaneous emission properties of certain metals in vacuum and involves an anomalous cathode reaction force conforming to Dr. H. Aspden's Law of Electrodynamics. The associated Motor Drive provides for direct electromechanical transformation of the energy accumulated within the reactor. The reactor may be conceived of as a portable vacuum battery made active only when needed. The Correa technology employs cold-cathode vacuum discharge plasma reactors to set up self-exciting oscillations, in the form of pulsed abnormal glow discharges triggered by auto-electronic emissions, in order to produce power. The circuit is driven from a direct current source of impedance sufficient to prevent establishment of a sustained vacuum arc discharge. In combination with a special circuit, electrical power, in excess of the input power needed for operation, can be extracted. The System, therefore, may also be referred to as an over-unity system: where net energy output greatly exceeds net energy input.









Paul & Alexandra Correa ~ Pulsed Abnormal Glow Discharges (PAGD)


cheers,
HS

Thanks for this.I remember seeing this in an online pdf .

IMHO the plasma tube functions like a giant encapsulated sparkgap,

The plauson/SR193/Dr. Aspden/Testatika design cold to hot circuit is used.I see the diodes but there is a very powerful component missing, GROUND.Don't know if its an air one or its the Aspden Theories at work here.Hmmmm.....


Ged

Today I took off the connection to my antenna and nearly nothing The second SG was not sparking at all. When I connected it back sparks came back. Something is coming from the ambient for sure.
My FWBR is an ant of 10 UFast 3amp on one side only; cause I have to buy more and on the other three of the FWBR ants of 10 1amp ufast.
Although the 1 amps are getting hot. I think the ZVS is really a wild beast as said on the net.
Tried to hook the ZVS directly and worked too as you told me Mr.Clean.
Ok yes I should do an SG to a stepdown for my batts to charge.

That is Delamorto video and copper pipe with slit inside. Also the katcher coil contains ferrite core. It was long discusion in overunity.com about this ..
One of replication attempts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFxH...U&feature=plcp

What are you using for an antenna?

I had a plastic frame of a monitor and wrapped alot of copper wire on it. Cleaned all wire to make it contact to act as a copper sheet.
Than I took this up on my roof about two storeys higher than the basement with a wire coming down.
That's all I will experiment with wider area of copper and higher to see if it will effects the charge faster.

Hello every body

I have wondered alot about how to choose the right frequency. And then I stumbled upon
The following book talking about waves of the eather and a lot of other relating topics.
Check out page 83 - 85 at least! The are some very interesting theories about the nature of our universe. Many have noticed that when fiddling around with the frequency you will notice
A sweet spot where the light shines brighter. Could it be that you have found, as they say in the book, the purest sine wave called the phi spiral, golden mean..however please check out these pages. It's said that these waves are non-destructive.

Souls of Distortion Awakening

Hi Graham,

I found your comment extremely appropriate, helpful and even insightful, esp. the above. Thank you. Even though much garbage is littered through these pages, I still come back hopeing to find a gem or two.

Good observation Ged. Even without the ground, this tech is pretty powerful. Just add water !!

It was my mistake to post this in this thread thinking it had to do with Don Smith resonance mode oscillation. I think it should be in its own thread.

Plasma Electrolysis with tap water

Tesla was way way ahead of his time. This is the circuit for Stanley Meyers Voltage Intensification Circuit circa 1890.




Regards,
HS

No dont say that. It is not a mistake. It is very important for don smith resonance the thing you have posted. keep posting. Experimentors need to understand the ambient tapping without earth ground also.

olo

Thanks for posting this. This book is very important to understand ether/zero point energy and how to tap it.

olo

Yes. Moray had capacitor plus radioactive conduction avalanche source inside one of his cold cathode tube designs.

Cheers .... Graham.

Correa does not use radioactive materials and even Moray did not use radioactive materials the cold cathode dicharge tubes used semiconductor materials as spark gap device and he used two tubes working alternately turning on and off working as inverter to produce usable power in secondary.Correa and Moray used what tesla used scalar wave from discharge to gain power. every spark gap produces scalar wave and coils enhance it. free power is based on ether which resonates with scalar wave or longitudinal wave. resonance helps in resonating ether to produce free electrons unlimited supply.

olo

I take that to be an alternating 'push-pull' type firing oscillator providing transformed AC output.
Plasma generates photons including UV in line with the plasma.
UV and energetic photons cause electrons to be emitted by the common centre electrode.
A plasma will do the same within a spark gap, (Don Smith?) but the gap must be tuned to blue/UV/+> plasma so that the plasma irradiates the pole conductor; or use a specialised plasma device.

Cheers ....... Graham.

Please check what Moray used, he disguised his devices for obvious reasons.
That little block in the base beneath the wire cathode was a radioactive emitter to create a cold conduction avalanche.

Hmmmm ? That 'magic' scalar wave term again ?
You writing about a near field and conductor propagation related electric (ionic) charge wavefront, or a release of freely radiated photonic energy ?

Please explain what the 'scalar wave' is ?

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That something being real ionic charge via the air/ atmosphere/ person (if you hold it) molecules.
(Not something 'magic' out of an imaginary 'aether'.)
Ions from the atmosphere neutralised by electrons via your circuit, with that excess electron flow being alternatingly transducible as electrical output.

Moray illuminated a low power lamp in series with his ion collector 'antenna' wire, he also series tuned it to resonate with his internal inductor with a series connected capacitor; maybe two tin cans with one inside the other could be tried here if a decent air spaced variable is not available, but that would interrupt conduction. Moray was know to have constructed his own self healing 'sparking capacitors' that measured as a capacitor on a bridge, but internally sparked at a specific voltage.
Did Don Smith use any self made capacitors which could have been 'sparking' types ?

Guruji you could try connecting two LEDs back-to-back, though with A to K and K to A, and insert these in series with your collection 'antenna' wire ?
This could be an observable starting point for peaking ion capture ?

Hi Guruji,

I noted that Moray's antennas were straight wires and not wound or sheet = inductance or capacitance.

He could have been tuning an alternating conduction wave through the collection (antenna) wire length (against a tank coil) in order to minimize electromagnetic radiation; this as the exact opposite to what we do with SWR when optimising output from a radio transmitter !?

Cheers ........... Graham.