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Old 09-12-2011, 07:48 PM
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All that fuss about caduceus coil is strange : when we are winding normal coil it is almost like caduceus kind. The only difference is that next layer is separated by a tape or so but I wound a coil without that and each turn from new layer is going between two turns of previous layer so it crosses almost like caduceus coil.Also each layer is wound in opposite direction but current is flowing in one direction - is this maybe the reason why normal coil has fixed magnetic poles ?
I'm not expert but just think about it, please
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Old 09-13-2011, 12:54 AM
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Question spark gap parallel or serial

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Hello to all,

Since we want higher frequency (say above 50kHz) coming from the nst we use a break and cap connected to the primary air-coil.

We have for example 60Hz nst and primary air-coil is 253 micro henries. We want this to resonate on say 100 kilo hertz.

In Tesla notes we see this circuit used for maximum current though the primary Lp and less current through break. Break is parallel and not in series!
Also this circuit has minimal dampening.

How do we adjust / calculate the break and the caps Cp,C1 for attached picture and go from 60Hz to 100kHz?
Should the frequency from S be in phase with the Cp Lp resonance frequency?

If the C1 caps are charged and the break kicks on the wrong time, the LpCp resonance frequency is disturbed?

I'm not an expert, only try to understand this. If we use Don Smith systems this is the beginning for resonance system.

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I've seen those drawings in Colorado springs note and even in the book inventions of tesla. In many drawings the spark gap is in parallel, does anybody know why. And also if you put a high voltage diode, it rectifiy half wave and does the SG in parallel shorts the cap Cp to ground ??? And by the way it is a nice thread. sorry for the english, it's no my first language...
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:08 AM
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WOW 941 posts and 32 pages and no free energy yet??? Hope I don't get to old and die waiting for this thread to amount to something. Any body want to bet this Don Smith thread goes four hundred pages and still want to know how to get it working. DON SMITH never had a working unit.
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step down is always 1:1/4

so step up is 1/4:1 and step down is 1:1/4 ?

If yes then everything is pretty clear now. And I thank you dearly for all your help
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:52 AM
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The Smith Tensor Coil was given to him from "topside" along with other designs, that he then experimented on and found that it did not follow conventional EM theories.


The Tensor Beam
Verbatim extracts from the Smith archive
Tensor Beam

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We were told about a system which uses a radio transmitter as an energy source but has a special antenna converter, which radiates doughnut shaped waves, which are not time functions.

Following are the construction instructions.

One ferrite core, material with the highest permeability and dielectric constant, about 8 inches to a foot long, and about 1 inch in diameter. About 20 feet of plastic insulated #14 electric house wire. Starting at the center of the wire and at one end of the core, wind on the wire as closely as possible, with the first turn under and then over, so that the winding will be exactly symmetrical. It will start at one end of the core and finish at the other end and will resemble a solenoid with a bifilar winding. It is important that the winding be exactly symmetrical.


Still unanswered questions and parts list needed:

How did Kapanadze and SR193 use the Caduceus coil to get Free Energy from their units?

How did Zilano use the bifilar coil to get Free Energy of 10 kw to power a house?

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Old 09-13-2011, 10:47 AM
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well just get nst solid state 30-40 khz. 3 kv or 4 kv

we use lengths to vibrate em without needing caps. we r just inducing half wave just to make em vibrate at their natural frequency and since natural frequency of vibration depends upon the length of coil thats why lengths r important. we use mhz range coz if we use khz range lengths will be veryyyyy long.

suppose u have 2 inch radius primary

so length one turn required =2*3.14*2=12.56 inches/12=1.046 feet approx

if u need 5 turns then length required=5*1.046=5.23 feet

and ur secondary length will be= 4*5.23=20.92 feet

now u can calculate ur frequency at which its gonna work

length(1/4 wave)= 246/frequency in mhz

5.23=246/f in Mhz
f in mhz for quarter wave= 246/5.23=47.03 Mhz

now if u have 3 inch radius for secondary

length required for 1 turn=2*3.14*3=18.84 inch/12=1.57 feet

so no of turns in sec wil be =20.92 feet/1.57 feet=13.32 turns

so u will have 5 turns primary with 2 inch radius and 13.32 turns in secondary with 3 inch radius pvc tube.

thats how its calculated.

we r not using full lengths for turns we need extra for connexion also so we adjust turns accordingly say 3 turns in primary and 10 turns in secondary. keeping lengths same for primary=5.23 feet and secondary=20.92 feet

if u feed 2000 volt in primary 3 turns then voltage per turn=2000/3=666.66 volts

and since we have secondary 10 turns then voltage per turn across secondary is 666.66 volts

so full voltage across secondary is 10*666.66=6666.6 volts = 6.6 kv approx

since we treat secondary coil as magnet we have to make space for blotch wall(the middle neutral space of N____S middle join. so we make 5 turn_____5turn

____ is sec coil middle in straight line its length=primary coils total turn width. so primary sits between this straight wire joining 5 turns and 5 turns of secondary.

0000000000000

0=secondary coil turns
0=primary turns

hope u understand now

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Will be the same calculation for ferrite rod? We use 2 inch diameter for primary and 3 inch diam for secondary?
For step-down transformer with ferrite rod:
15Mhz resonance is 20 metres primary and secomdary is 5 metres cw and 5 metres ccw?
Can i make secondary on the same diameter tub with primary?
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applies to aircore only

rgds

Can you make an example of coil calculation for ferrite rod system?
Ferrite wil have a dielectric(isolation) in the middle of the rod?
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Simplification

@zilano

can we simplify the setup like this one attached and still having an ou device?
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Thank you .
You made it perfectly clear.
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:59 PM
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yes the circuit will work if u have 50/60 hz nst and cap must not be used.

for higher frequencies it wont work coz mot has iron core and it will saturate. as the pic u depicted for that u have to use pure dc with a bridge and use cap to make primary of trafo to oscillate at 50/60 hz. u have to measure L for trafo(primary 2000 volts) and calculate C. and feed full dc through spark Gap.

power wud be more than input but not quite large. coz its single step u need multiple units like these to have abundant power if all units connected in parallel(outputs)

rgds
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I think it could work with higher frequencies, just Nst should be like Don Smith circuit. Doesn't NST contain the same coils as big tabletop device? If you have NST working at resonance and know the length of secondaries and primary is 1/4 wavelength. You see ?
Step down would be problematic.
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for ferrite use nst voltage 1kv. use single ferrite for primary keep secondary air core. and calculate according to radius of primary and add 1 inch to the radius of secondary and calculate urself according to the aircore style.

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I must add capacitor in secondary for resonance with primary.
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there r 2 kinds of nst one with iron core 50/60 hrtz and one with ferrite core 25khz to mega hertz range.

so we cant use higher frequencies with iron cored else it will melt.

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zzzz
yeah, sure I thought about ferrite core one , but you're right - would be hard to find matching cap in secondary for full wave resonance and properly made NST also
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Piezo you say,of course!

Thanks zilano ,the funny thing is that I was doing some research today on piezoelectric transducers.

I see a bright future ahead.
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Here is a new Kapanadze video:

Images of the device starts at 17 min into the video
Beautiful GEORGIA TK.swf - YouTube



xenomorphlabs comments over at overunity.com:
Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze



Caduceus Coil




Ground connection




Coil length




Furnace ignition HV unit:




Furnace burner HV unit:




Cheers Mike
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A little off topic, but an interesting way to make a strong magnet.
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Old 09-14-2011, 04:16 PM
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Donald L. Smith 1996 Tesla Symposium Part 19 - YouTube
Wonder why he said the suitcase unit was getting warm and unpluged it?
The suitcase has a battery, and inverter 1200 1500 watts. Seems funny that electronic meter was working ok around all the rf by the coils. Capacitors better then batterys. Guess I can replace the battery in my pickup with a big cap.
THE VIDEOS A FACK.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:47 PM
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Well, good luck Zelina Zilano Zeis Zane, and thanks for all your help!! Wish you the best.
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Well, good luck Zelina Zilano Zeis Zane, and thanks for all your help!! Wish you the best.
I guess we are never going to see her 10 KW generator now.
It was just another bored engineer having a bit of fun.
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am here always! hope Tariel Kapanadze gets well soon!
We were up to page 33 and now we are back at 29. Is some one messing around with a caducus coils?
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo!

Zilano ! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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WOW 941 posts and 32 pages and no free energy yet??? Hope I don't get to old and die waiting for this thread to amount to something. Any body want to bet this Don Smith thread goes four hundred pages and still want to know how to get it working. DON SMITH never had a working unit.
No There was 33 pages and then a minute ago there was 27 pages and now there is only 26 pages. Not only do Don's devices work but someone is using one right now to reverse time.

But really WTF is going on here?

Well I see I just pushed it over now to 27 pages. Still have never seen such a mass disappearance of pages of posts.
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But really WTF is going on here?
all of zilano's posts are deleted.
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No There was 33 pages and then a minute ago there was 27 pages and now there is only 26 pages. Not only do Don's devices work but someone is using one right now to reverse time.

But really WTF is going on here?
I think that all the posts from zilano have been deleted, strange, even if the device doesn't work...... ?

Or it's the aliens

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Old 09-15-2011, 01:30 AM
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all of zilano's posts are deleted.
We could say that her device worked, or the responsible of this site has to explain to us....
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Yeah this is really a very curious development. Please Zilano if you have deleted your own posts that is your choice but PLEASE let us know if you have done this or if it was done by someone else. And I guess if you have deleted your own posts we would be curious why but I respect your choice to do so. Fortunately though I do know where all the posts can be found if they need to be.
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she's a Girl

They are always Mysterious [at least to me]?

But.....................

I am Smitten..........

Actually I think she has "Smote" a lot of us fellahs?

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Oh well, Thank God we have conventional EM Theory to fall back on.
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I'm going to wake up tomorrow and this thread will be vanished.
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Yeah this is really a very curious development. Fortunately though I do know where all the posts can be found if they need to be.
Hi ewizard, i have been out of town working and put in about 40 hours in the last few days.

i get back to this...

I have saved everything up to post 944 from Drak

I really would llike to get the other posts I missed if possible.

I think I have everything saved except some loose brains of mine I left laying all over this thread.

If you can tell me how to get them I would greatly appreciate it.


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Queen of Resonance you are!

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well one battery 7 ah 12 volt can only run 800 va max invertor and u saying he was having 1200 1500 watts. moreover a 7ah 12 v cant make so much heat unless power produced is more. and 2 big batteries are required to run 1500 watts invertor. the power was more. lol try keeping an invertor 1500 watts and 2 big batteries in suitcase. well don circuit is similar to rosemary circuit. she also recommends high voltage and high frequency. power is there. basic is we r feeding half wave and getting full wave if 1:1 ratio is used.in 60 hz resonance. try rosemary circuit. u can charge battery and glow bulbs same time.

people dont get it. people dont understand resonance. all they get induction and say don is fake. but he is not tariel is not and rosemary is not.
rgds
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Resonance is all I want to learn.
i will get there.
Please be at peace young lady.
we all wish you comfort.
If you need anything .... Lets pray for zelina everyone. somthing is happening and we just do not know what it is.
we want the best for you.
Please be safe
keep your head down please!
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