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Old 04-30-2012, 05:31 PM
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My overall observation on the matter was one of suspicion. Firstly, I'm not here to argue, discredit or distract the thread or anyone in it only to learn and share how I used the knowledge presented to me. Everyone has something to offer even in a small way if that is their true intention. We can move forward faster together than as a single experimenter in our basement lab. What I present here will only be things I've built, experimented with and have proven to myself they work.

I followed zilano's posts for a long time as many of you have. There was always something of interest even if the device shown was obviously unworkable. This is where the pattern started to show up... I started noticing that there was just enough wording to grab your interest but never enough detail to accomplish anything successful from it. I have to admit some of the wording led me to research and I learned from the research. Usually finding bits of information that forwarded my own quest and usually unrelated to her design... none the less it produced thought. I didn't appreciate the deceit or illusion she presented, which to me, diluted her credibility. She did appear to have a back ground lending itself to a vast amount of knowledge in this field.

Because of the consistent lack of details leading to no possible way one could replicate any thing she presented sent up warning flags in my mind. Nothing has been shown here that was presented by zilano to work through replication. If her real intention was to help someone reach their goal with a successful replication of what she described as one she already had then we should all be enjoying some degree of success in our own work based on her designs.

The final flag was raised when shortly after I posted my work with the 3 plate cap there was an almost immediate response of a drawing with a tesla coil using 3 plate cap stating it was alien technology from her team. Shortly after she presented the "stealing electricity" with the same. Now, that coupled with an odd number of first time posters rushing to praise her like a love sick puppy ready to pee on the floor when an outreaching hand was extended their way made me realize that my suspicions were more than just suspicions. More confirmation came when those posts are now missing as well.

I prefer to deal with facts and truth - those are the facts as I see them - you decide your own truth. Hate me or not that is my take on it.

Personally it doesn't matter to me who or why someone posts here, I will use my own judgement to whether it's useful information or not. What's done is done lets move on.
That is the best post I have read in a long time.

Thank you!





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Well said Dragon.
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threat?

What is that? A threat? You wish bad things on people? Grow up.
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Zilano Fans,

A good friend of mine saved all the Zilano posts before Zilano deleted them the other day. She has offered to send them all to me, so we should have them all archived for everyone soon. Anyway, I wanted to give you an update on that.

If she doesn't mind me sharing her name, I will give her the credit soon. She's a very serious electrical person in Europe who stays below the radar since she never posts.

Best Regards,
Slovenia
Thanks as usual,Slovenia,I had slackened up on saving the newest posts.

Was reading some of the older ones you posted many pages ago.

It is persons like you who help to keep the vision going and a flame in our heart as we seek to get a successful replication.

Ged
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Here you've another great experiment.
Resonance single wire power transmission



That is a variation of Smith experiment where he shows that electricity is obtained from ambient background.
The video that serve as a guide is this:
Resonance Single Wire Power Transmission - YouTube

Instead of using continuous single-wire transmission line, I added the Smith experiment where he puts the 3 plates (metal, dielectric, metal) and proves that energy comes from background.
Good.That's were my focus has turned.Keep us up to date on your progress.

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Old 04-30-2012, 06:38 PM
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Just beautiful Zilano!

Guys! a new video of Don Smith coming out...
I'm editing it for uploading to youtube.... more than 1 hour of new information

Dear Sir,

Is the video up yet? I would pay for the non edited version if necessary.I am now an official Don Smith Video Junkie.Everytime I watch his videos, subtle clues show up and my understanding deepens.

My friends at the mines and geology department just handed me a Geomagnetic Map of my area.Now I know other places to go test any device I create.

The more I listen to Don's videos, read this forum, especially Zilanos posts, and combing the net for related information has confirmed to me that Don had something going.....

Oh, Don said he had hundreds of replicators but only about 6 or 7 had achieved success.He is baffled as to why...


Next thing, I was really sad when I heard Don had passed.That he had had several strokes.Now seeing his waist line in the above pic really reminds me that I need to get out that ablounge real quick.No disrespect.

Happy replication guys. 3X

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Sergey

You and other Russian fellows have so much knowledgeable and trustworthy persons nearby. They have no complete solution probably but they have very strong knowledge. I'm talking about dynatron , sr913 , delamorto. Recentrly I posted schematic from delamorto supposedly running in closed loop and very simple in fact but my post was drown in oblivion.
Something is not good if we cannot make event simple device as a team.
can you ask delamorto if I could post schematic of his hand-made inverter he used (based on K56IE8 chip which is equal to CD4017 as I suppose) ?
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Thanks!!

Thanks for your kind words Ged!!!

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Thanks as usual,Slovenia,I had slackened up on saving the newest posts.

Was reading some of the older ones you posted many pages ago.

It is persons like you who help to keep the vision going and a flame in our heart as we seek to get a successful replication.

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Old 04-30-2012, 06:55 PM
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Ok,guys!

I'm not angry.
Completely versa.

Now, I met (face to face)with the most active members of the forum and realized who was capable of.

I will continue to express my opinion.

Attention!
I do not impose my ideas to you!
I just take this opportunity to speak.

Please see the link.

New - MOV001.avi - YouTube

This is my real device.
This is not Donald device but this device that produce a lot of cool electricity.

Maybe this video will help you understand what I mean
when I talk about cool electricity.

I didn't use spark gap.


Best regards,

Sergey.
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Ok,guys!

I'm not angry.
Completely versa.

Now, I met (face to face)with the most active members of the forum and realized who was capable of.

I will continue to express my opinion.

Attention!
I do not impose my ideas to you!
I just take this opportunity to speak.

Please see the link.

New - MOV001.avi - YouTube

This is my real device.
This is not Donald device but this device that produce a lot of cool electricity.

Maybe this video will help you understand what I mean
when I talk about cool electricity.

I didn't use spark gap.


Best regards,

Sergey.
Hello,
Thank you very much for sharing your device.
I Love to replicate this can you please post an schematic.
Regs,
D.J
P.S: The best thing attracting me is that its without spark gap.

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Old 04-30-2012, 07:04 PM
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Dear Sir,

Is the video up yet? I would pay for the non edited version if necessary.I am now an official Don Smith Video Junkie.Everytime I watch his videos, subtle clues show up and my understanding deepens.

My friends at the mines and geology department just handed me a Geomagnetic Map of my area.Now I know other places to go test any device I create.

The more I listen to Don's videos, read this forum, especially Zilanos posts, and combing the net for related information has confirmed to me that Don had something going.....

Oh, Don said he had hundreds of replicators but only about 6 or 7 had achieved success.He is baffled as to why...


Next thing, I was really sad when I heard Don had passed.That he had had several strokes.Now seeing his waist line in the above pic really reminds me that I need to get out that ablounge real quick.No disrespect.

Happy replication guys. 3X

Ged
Don might of had a bit of a beer belly but IMHO the consent exposure to HF most likely is what caused the strokes.

If you are around HV/HF more then a few times a week and you are starting to get Floaters it might be the HF causing issues with your eyes.

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Old 04-30-2012, 07:05 PM
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Sergey

You and other Russian fellows have so much knowledgeable and trustworthy persons nearby. They have no complete solution probably but they have very strong knowledge. I'm talking about dynatron , sr913 , delamorto. Recentrly I posted schematic from delamorto supposedly running in closed loop and very simple in fact but my post was drown in oblivion.
Something is not good if we cannot make event simple device as a team.
can you ask delamorto if I could post schematic of his hand-made inverter he used (based on K56IE8 chip which is equal to CD4017 as I suppose) ?
I found that to be quite interesting and definitely shows a lot of promise. It caught my attention because I had worked with a circuit very similar. I could never get my load matched quite right and it would either draw to much from the inverter or not quite enough to maintain a reasonable level of charge to the cap. I was using a cheap inverter off the shelf which I'm sure is why the experiment failed. It did prove to me the same energy driving a load can be recycled to extend it's overall run time making it very efficient. I would be interested in his inverter circuit to attempt to reproduce what he's accomplished if he's willing to share it.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:06 PM
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Hi,colleagues!

I should note one important thing.
Some part of members this forum always trying to impose the next statement:
"If you have a good idea, but you have not checked it in practice yet , never expressed this idea.
Because it may interfere other members to go in the right direction"

It is very strange for me. I have never met such an approach before.
It's funny. It's stupid. It's thoughtlessly . It isn't interesting . This is a road to nowhere.

This forum is a sourse of ideas but not ready devises.
If you have an ability to think just try to do it and just choose in the forum the most reliable idea from many variety of ideas.
If you want to get information about ready device you should
go to Donald or Kapanadze or someone else.
This is my opinion.

The person who offended zilano must bring her apologize.

If my expression is totally wrong for this forum I am ready to left it and follow to zilano.


Sorry.

Best regards,

Sergey
Here! Here! Well said, Sergey!

Agreed.

Stone Age puritanical extremists who only tolerate the posting of experimentally verified theories merit no reward.

IN SUPPORT OF ZILANO!
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:26 PM
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Zilano

I don't know who offended Zilano but she should not be that sensitive that if someone says something she gets offended. Once she told me that she practise yoga. In yoga we learn to be free from ego that we think we're something cause in real truth we're nothing and true I is one in all.
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Hello,
Thank you very much for sharing your device.
I Love to replicate this can you please post an schematic.
Regs,
D.J
P.S: The best thing attracting me is that its without spark gap.
Hi,DilJalaay!

No problem!

Unfortunately the circuit in russian.
But it is pretty easy to understand.
So you can ask you questions
if it is necessary.
I'll try to answer.

The most importan thing

The output of Donald device has the same signal.

Look closely at the design of my coil.
Isn't it familiar?

Best regards,

Sergey.
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Hi,DilJalaay!

No problem!

Unfortunately the circuit in russian.
But it is pretty easy to understand.
So you can ask you questions
if it is necessary.
I'll try to answer.

The most importan thing

The output of Donald device has the same signal.

Look closely at the design of my coil.
Isn't it familiar?

Best regards,

Sergey.
Thank you very much for your quick response.
what i got from your circuit is, that it is auto tune, oscillatory circuit automatically tune it self to the resonance frequency of secondary windings. Am i right?

Are the secondary winding is caduceus? shape figure 8888888888???

Regs,
D.J
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:02 PM
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Sergey

You and other Russian fellows have so much knowledgeable and trustworthy persons nearby. They have no complete solution probably but they have very strong knowledge. I'm talking about dynatron , sr913 , delamorto. Recentrly I posted schematic from delamorto supposedly running in closed loop and very simple in fact but my post was drown in oblivion.
Something is not good if we cannot make event simple device as a team.
can you ask delamorto if I could post schematic of his hand-made inverter he used (based on K56IE8 chip which is equal to CD4017 as I suppose) ?

Hi,boguslaw!

Dynatron doesn't make a secret of his results.
He is a good guy.
I have an opportunity to talk with him.
The part of circuit that you ask(hand-made inverter )
is easy device.
I can give you some(from russian forum).
I didn't replicate them(becouse I have my own scheme, see my previos message ) but I think I can explain how it works.


Best regards,

Sergey.

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Thank you very much for your quick response.
what i got from your circuit is, that it is auto tune, oscillatory circuit automatically tune it self to the resonance frequency of secondary windings. Am i right?

Are the secondary winding is caduceus? shape figure 8888888888???

Regs,
D.J
no! no! no!
Don't take it wrong !

8- this is scheme of magnetic field


Sergey.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:14 PM
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This was one of Zilano's detractors. So, why should he not be happy and want to move on?
Hey Slovenia

He seems to be a good guy. He also backs up almost everything he puts out for review. I feel his response was in good taste that's why I liked it.

Take Care,

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Kajunkreations was the fellow. Zilano put up with a lot of crap from a lot of guys who I used to respect and no longer do.
Hey, If I am the reason she left, then she is NOT a strong person, what I said was
not even directed to her, I was not talking to her, I've only said a few words to her since I have been posting. Now as for the content of what was said, did I call her out by name? No. Did I call her some derogatory name? No I simply stated a fact. So get over it. I am NOT the reason she decided to leave. I was merely her scapegoat.

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Sergey

You and other Russian fellows have so much knowledgeable and trustworthy persons nearby. They have no complete solution probably but they have very strong knowledge. I'm talking about dynatron , sr913 , delamorto. Recentrly I posted schematic from delamorto supposedly running in closed loop and very simple in fact but my post was drown in oblivion.
Something is not good if we cannot make event simple device as a team.
can you ask delamorto if I could post schematic of his hand-made inverter he used (based on K56IE8 chip which is equal to CD4017 as I suppose) ?
Hi!

Please find scheme in attachment :

1) The latest scheme DS-Dynatron

2) a couple of scheme the hand-made inverter


Best regards,

Sergey.
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Hi Aether scientist don't get me wrong about your posts. I was saying that in practice it's difficult to make a device works.
Regarding that vid of Magnet on Cap seems that there is a wire to the magnet and maybe the capacitor has a copper sheet on it.
Thanks for sharing.
I haven't got you wrong or anybody else. It's true that sometimes is difficult to make a device work.
I'm just only suggesting other points of view. Sometimes the same problem can be resolved in a huge variety of ways.
That's the only thing I made here. Exposing more ways to make more easy each step.
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Hi
I have been following this forum for more than a year I read from post 1 right to the end, I got very exited when I saw that Zilanos posts but I soon became disillusioned , when I saw people trying to replicate without success, then I started asking questions, why would you claim working devices? and then post different circuits and give advice on how to build, I have said on a previous post that every time it looks that we are going in the right direction we get steered in another, that is why I support Farmhand and Dragon, and I believe that if you all read these posts from the beginning you can only get to the same conclusions. Ask yourself this question why would Zilano not answer any of Patrick Kelleys questions? But Zilano is not the only one there is more.
Gedfire claimed success in a previous post but never posted his working device, Mr Clean has been building for a long time on that same advice and so has Jfoer I have the utmost respect for them, but there comes a time that you have to start asking questions. I respect Slovenia but I think he did not look at the whole picture and in the interest off getting where we should go to he should reevaluate his position.
But who am I to say anything I am just a junior member.
Blessings to all.
Best regards Johan
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Vidbid,

You are an awesome fellow indeed!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia
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Special thanks to you my friend.
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We lost many of Zilano's newer posts because I have been busy doing other things but I archived all the older Zilano posts and they can be found at the following link:

Directory contents of /pdf/Reference_Material/Donald_L_Smith/
Thank you, I really appreciate people who archive good information.
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what a mess

Hi all.
After 2 days having being offline I feel very sad that this topic has gone
so off-topic in a no-where way debate that helps no one and nothing
I for myself don`t like to be a fan of zilano-pro or zilano-con groups.
I don`t know about you all other guys but I am here in hope to find some points to go after
trying to replicate at least one of Don Smith Devices, and not to enter a debate
that does not help for that single scope.
Wanna a point to refer as a genuine point of critic ?
Here it is: Don Smith`s device & Kapanadze devices and the similar ones are based
on the work and research of Nikola Tesla. So, as long someone is presenting his/her knowledge
and that knowledge does not support the work of Tesla or is not based purely
on Teslas inventions, than my advice is to reject it,unless mass replicated.

Thanks to all sincere contributors here.
Best Regards for all here.
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Hey, If I am the reason she left, then she is NOT a strong person, what I said was
not even directed to her, I was not talking to her, I've only said a few words to her since I have been posting. Now as for the content of what was said, did I call her out by name? No. Did I call her some derogatory name? No I simply stated a fact. So get over it. I am NOT the reason she decided to leave. I was merely her scapegoat.

Nolan
It doesn't matter how anyone spins it, the damage is done.

She removed all of her posts heretofore.

From here on out, let us agree to treat each other with respect.

So, in the interest of moving on at least in this thread, I suggest we all just drop it and get back to the subject at hand.

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Dear Folks!

Thankx for the supporters and non supporters of don smith device.
and thank You All on this forum.

every energy has 2 facets one is + and other is -ve. moray used -ve where as don used both.

just reverse one diode in don smith secondary and u have avramenko with middle of coil as earth and follow.you will replicate Don device.

no one see this thing in don device. don never showed the right direction of secondary coil and diode.


no one offended me and those who think they did can smile!

and if i wanted recognition and credit i would have not been posting on this forum. i would have contacted Pjk for getting in his free energy pdf.
i feel knowledge is to be shared thats all. and tried u get it all at one place. i did my best.
I leave the reins in ur own hands and with your own free will !

with regards to All and with no hard feelings towards anyone. I take your leave now.

regards and best wishes to all!

zelina


ps: special thankx to all supporters and senior members.
lol am junior now
Talk about timing.
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Then why don't you stay? If your intent is to teach - then teach in a way that reaps success. If I've offended you I will be the first to apologize. I find you very likeable as a person I simply don't approve of your methods.

If you give someone a knife and a fork and place an elephant on the table with the thoughts of eating it, it becomes an overwhelming task. If you give them one bite at a time it seems easy.

Once the small successes are brought into reality then it becomes much easier to build on top of that knowledge.

No deciet, no illusions just simple information that would bring one to a successful build to learn and expand on... I think that's all any one could ask.

Note: I don't condone eating elephants it was a metaphor.
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This was one of Zilano's detractors. So, why should he not be happy and want to move on?
Slovania, I think you know me better than that... we've worked together over the years, lashing out in the anger of the moment won't help things any.

Edit: you beat me to the punch Slovenia... your a good man.

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