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Old 03-22-2012, 03:38 AM
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Nice job Mr.Clean ! Bout time someone "gets it" ! Now just figure out how to put the bulb in place and tune it with HV - when the input bulb goes out you have an output energy activity that is in excess of the input. All that is left from there is an antenna to recycle the wasted ambient to make up for any input losses and you have a self runner....

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finding resonance freq

Hi kdkinen / mr.clean

thanks for your latest interesting video Don Smith Device Project Part 23: Cool Resonance Experiment Replicated, and new Function Generator - YouTube and your explanation.

The video you refer to, where you saw the effect first, is this one
Introduction to resonance - YouTube
and he takes it a bit further in this one:
fun with lcs - YouTube
Both these videos are by youtube user tortuga0303 whose user name on this forum is Armagdn03

But actually I have a question regarding your resonance finding video:

If you attach an additional LED on the output, in revers to the one that you used in the video, will both those LEDs light and brighten up when resonance is reached (I guess yes, they will, but am not sure) ?
and will the attaching of the additional LED change the resonance frequency?
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Hello; Actually I'm still changing things around. I got some new gas discharge tubes Im trying out. 4500 v and 2500v.They are so Quite Also moving things around in the circuit. moving spark gap to before L1 after HV diode.in.Series.test test test. Then move SG to after L1 in series test test test than Par. test test test (test test test is adjusting caps and placing them in series,par,test test.) Also found out that my motor controller PWM when adjusting dutycycle for nst input I can change my NST freq from 20k to 36k making it easer to tune in to my coils...So I spent today wraping new coils that match closer to those Freq.s. Also wraped new coils and placed Primary on outside. secondary inside. Still in process..But mostly I found I get very interesting results removing the sparkgap and replacing it with a glass bottle cap with 1 rap of bare 12ga wire, Adj. my PWM duty up till plasma glows around 12ga wire and glass bottle It just hisses and the light brightens at the end of the tunnel... Randy





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That does look interesting. Can you elaborate on what you are seeing? I haven't checked in on this thread in a while. Anyone having any luck with this yet? Having been in contact with Don many years ago and having his book I have no doubt that wiley old fox had something real but he wasn't going to make it easy unless you really understood.

BTW if you need a gauss meter you might check out an android program called Tricorder (v5.12 is what I've got) by Cameron Smith. If you have a smart phone like a Droid X or similar they have a built in magnetic sensor that works very well. The Tricorder program is cool (built to look and sound like the old Star Trek tricorder) and is quite sensitive to magnetic fields. It also senses gravity, sound and some other things. I've gotten used Droid X's as cheap as $50.
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Scalar waves..

I was wondering as Scalar waves play such a large part In this Technology what the state of play is regarding “Scalar wave detectors” which might (just might) result in something to tune to .. a search turnes up a few results most of which seem to use the same basic concept ..


The schematic, NEONDET.GIF, is a derivative of a microwave detector
described in the February, 1980, "Ham Radio" magazine. As
originally created, the circuit's purpose is to detect microwave RF
standing waves, but with minor modification, it can also be used as
an effective scalar wave detector.

The schematic shows a round magnet epoxied to the NE-2 lamp, to help
isolate it from EM signals. Additionally, the circuit should be
enclosed in a metal box, or "Faraday Cage", with shielded I/O
connectors.

The power source consists of eight 9V batteries. Battery life is
very nearly the same as shelf life, because the lamp is operated in
"starvation" mode, drawing approximately 0.1ma.

The 25K and 250K potentiometers are adjusted first to fire the NE-2,
at approximately 60-70 volts, then adjusted until only the tip of
the cathode electrode glows. The 100K pot is adjusted for optimum
output gain.

Notes:

1. The 741 can be replaced with a 1458 cascade amplifier for
better results.
2. The RF loops in the NE-2 leads are mandatory to reduce
interference as well as lamp current noise.
3. Component values are not critical, and can be changed as
required for the type of output device.
4. Removing the magnet and Faraday Cage, and adding a
capacitively coupled loop antenna will permit use as a
microwave EM detector.

There is a Bedini/Bearden machine to consider here .. TeslaTech Resource Center ONLINE -- Scalar Wave Technology
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1. Remeber that MOT caps often have a built in discharge resistor.
2. Remember Zilano's suggestion to connect a FB reverse to the caps (cap / FB HV coil / SG back to cap.) and get energy on primary. There are some notions that current is being generated after passing through coils.
3. Experiment with different GND connections.

Flyback HV coils?? and SG to cap?
John can you please post a diagram about what Zilano had said regarding these caps?
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WOW Duncan what a find!!!

Here is the latest picture:

Don Smith Japanese Device



There is a release coming a little later today showing a working experiment of the circuit with no coils in action charging some capacitors very quickly.

All components are disclosed too!


A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT DISCLOSURE has happened outside of this forum. It is far too sensitive to post on an open forum.

It gets rid of the battery and the HV source and ties in totally with Don's work. It is ABSOLUTELY AMAZING AND WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE.

PM me your email address and I will gladly share.

We have been dreaming of something like this happening and it is.

Many thank yous to all the people that made this possible.
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Don Smith Zilano Simplified setup Test

Hi All

I was playing with simplified Don Smith Zilano setup and i would share my findings.

I have first tried this schematic. The spark is loud and white color and the 25uF CAP charged in about 6 seconds to 1000Volts


I then tried this schematic. The spark is completely silent and thin and purple color. The 25uF 1600V CAP is charged to 1000V a little faster in 5 seconds.


This is the picture of actual setup with all components used:


Here is the video of both tests:
Don Smith Zilano Simplified Test 1 - YouTube

I have also tried this schematic but the CAP is not charging over 12V even if I putt some wire antenna on the negative side of the FWBR.


Suggestions how too charge capacitor 25uF much faster than in 5 seconds to 1000V appreciated.

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Hi All

I was playing with simplified Don Smith Zilano setup and i would share my findings.

I have first tried this schematic. The spark is loud and white color and the 25uF CAP charged in about 6 seconds to 1000Volts


I then tried this schematic. The spark is completely silent and thin and purple color. The 25uF 1600V CAP is charged to 1000V a little faster in 5 seconds.


This is the picture of actual setup with all components used:


Here is the video of both tests:
Don Smith Zilano Simplified Test 1 - YouTube

I have also tried this schematic but the CAP is not charging over 12V even if I putt some wire antenna on the negative side of the FWBR.


Suggestions how too charge capacitor 25uF much faster than in 5 seconds to 1000V appreciated.

JoeFR
Hello I just tryed this setup. Move your setup to like a hairpen circuit, place a bottle capacitor with 1 rap of 12ga bare wire around outside,USE THIS FOR YOUR SPARKGAP Parallel where your cap was. place a cap in series on both lines going to your (L1) or FWBR. Nst will drive bottle cap to a plasma discharge around the 12ga bare wire. Caps will charge faster. Well It did on mine And Yes I also had to have ground going to FWBR. Randy
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WOW Duncan what a find!!!

Here is the latest picture:

Don Smith Japanese Device



There is a release coming a little later today showing a working experiment of the circuit with no coils in action charging some capacitors very quickly.

All components are disclosed too!


A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT DISCLOSURE has happened outside of this forum. It is far too sensitive to post on an open forum.

It gets rid of the battery and the HV source and ties in totally with Don's work. It is ABSOLUTELY AMAZING AND WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE.

PM me your email address and I will gladly share.

We have been dreaming of something like this happening and it is.

Many thank yous to all the people that made this possible.
If you feel it is important, please share a link. If it can be replicated that would be even better.

The D. Smith board I see probably is using 1/4 resonant secondary with NST and spark gap and magnetic only transfer between primary and secondary. So secondary does not affect primary when on load and Lenz law is voided...
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i have studied the diagram from

Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

but i stuck at the voltage divider resistors as pointed out in diagram below, actually i have 6000W inverter with 96V DC input 220V output 50Hz.

can you tell me how much wattage resistors should i apply as voltage divider resistors ?



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Hi Randy Thanks

I will try your schematic and see if the speed of cap charging is better.

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Suggestions how too charge capacitor 25uF much faster than in 5 seconds to 1000V appreciated.

JoeFR

Maybe you should try to run the device to operate 24 hours and then look if there is anything changed.
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If you feel it is important, please share a link. If it can be replicated that would be even better.

The D. Smith board I see probably is using 1/4 resonant secondary with NST and spark gap and magnetic only transfer between primary and secondary. So secondary does not affect primary when on load and Lenz law is voided...
Hi, I'm really sorry to keep you all on the edge of you seats (well some of you )

This is genuine, the real deal, a life’s work. Not my life’s work.

I just happen to be one of the people at the front of the queue who has been in the right place at the right time.

Look through my posts and you will see I am all for disclosing every single last detail.

Anyone who has got to know me will realise that I am not looking to profit from this in any way whatsoever apart from to live in the Utopia that we all so deserve, need and want so badly.

That will be our reward for our hard work. To see everyone have the same chance in life to live comfortably, travel where they wish to and grow whatever food, herbs and medicine they need for there family and friends.

MOST IMPORTANTLY I want the inventor to benefit from his life’s work. He won't spend the money on himself either which is a quality that is very hard to find in people these days. He will invest the money in his work to benefit us.

He has made the disclosure. I am probably the first if not one of the first 5 people in the world to have this information.

I need your email address' because it is not something that I want to give away freely. I want to send you the full beta release that a few of us have had for a short time.

The inventor has so much more to give, trust me!

I feel very strongly that anyone who pirates his work and gives it away for free is a fool.

Nearly 90% of what I have disclosed on here has come from this source.

Don’t kill the source.

He is charging a very, very reasonable price for this release and using the money to develop it further with our help. Not totally open source but pretty damn close.

I have collected the email addresses so far and emptied my inbox ready for some more.

As soon as the number reaches 100 I will send out everything I have got. It is then up to you to decide if you want to pay the very small amount for the most important info since the discovery of electricity itself.

Kind regards to all of you.

Again I will say it one more time.

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If you do any of these things then you are very likely to kill the source.

I don't mean physically kill it. I mean it will dry up.

For those people who are purposely out to destroy correct information, F@CK YOU!!!!! I don't give a flying f@ck if you kill me, my family and my friends.

We are all eternal just like the seed! Chicken and Egg!

FEAR is not good for your body to work properly.


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Hi Randy,
As you got assembled setup, can you please check if there is any difference on capacitor when there is +1 diode attached? Please see my mod:
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I will try your schematic and see if the speed of cap charging is better.

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Oooppsss At 5 sec I blew out my caps,, Crap!! Careful...... Randy
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Hi, I'm really sorry to keep you all on the edge of you seats (well some of you )

This is genuine, the real deal, a life’s work. Not my life’s work.

I just happen to be one of the people at the front of the queue who has been in the right place at the right time.
That's understandable. You got my PM with email address anyway.
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Another thing to remember is Don talked about magnetic current needs thicker everything.

Not just wires though.

He talked about length is voltage, width is amperage.

How thick are your diodes and other components?

You can clearly see what he means by the width and length, amps and volts when you look at HV diodes.
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Ding! just remembered add a varistor in parallel with the electrolytic caps.

Be much safer!

Thanks Romero for that gem!
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Ding! just remembered add a varistor in parallel with the electrolytic caps.

Be much safer!
And coil in series with varistor. Then unload it to some charger!

If you remember N. Tesla 1890-s methods, that was done over spark gap.
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We should avoid diodes. Tesla had no diode and that didn't limited his ability to charge capacitor without using current. And if you know that you can dump capacitor into thick coil of high mass low resistance and inductance and obtain amplification. Here is the problem : you cannot load this part of system because it dumps to nothing. Here Mr Avoid Lenz is helpful in open system we are IN .
Anybody who think he can patent or sell something with exclusive rights is fooled by the system - everything is described, just information is clipped in many patents and lectures.

The TRUTH is simple : we are using energy which create our Earth magnetosphere, and it is flowing from cosmic sources (Sun and galactic center ?) . It can be loaded but not to great extend in one place ! Nature is against our centralized power stations , rather expects usage of energy in place in small quantities , probably no more then 100kW.
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We should avoid diodes. Tesla had no diode and that didn't limited his ability to charge capacitor without using current. And if you know that you can dump capacitor into thick coil of high mass low resistance and inductance and obtain amplification. Here is the problem : you cannot load this part of system because it dumps to nothing. Here Mr Avoid Lenz is helpful in open system we are IN
Oh yes, here is one of pages from book http://ia600302.us.archive.org/16/it...00martiala.pdf :
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Once I saw a capacitor connected to battery.... I replicated it with a few ampermeters : first showed 0.7A flowing initially charging empty capacitor, second showed 22mA when some time constant passed. The last one showed just microamps taken from battery when capacitor is fully charged.
I concluded that if I can keep capacitor charged above battery voltage then battery could power it forever. This is of course impossible practically but most desired. Always charged capacitor is now my obsession !
BUT capacitor is a VOLTAGE device, why we need current to charge it ? Strange
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When I think about capacitor I see Tesla analogy of container which is filled by water.... his one was full or empty , "contained" pressure or no pressure.
Here I made addition which is mine : my capacitor can be under-pressure or in lower pressure then envinronment ! Remember , that was my idea he he (in case of some foll trying to patent it) Capacitor is the PUMP! This is second secret....
or maybe not..... Don Smith stated it in other words : nature will copy the energy from the other plate of capacitor...
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DSSimplified changed2.jpgThis way also worked JoeFR Randy
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The TRUTH is simple : we are using energy which create our Earth magnetosphere, and it is flowing from cosmic sources (Sun and galactic center ?) . It can be loaded but not to great extend in one place ! Nature is against our centralized power stations , rather expects usage of energy in place in small quantities , probably no more then 100kW.
I have wondered if this is the case...you can't scale these up to Megawatt outputs.
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Hi everyone, made another vid. I just picked up a new function gen, and now am getting very close.

The vid by Tortuga33 i believe, demonstrated ultimate resonance where the primary bulb lights when not in res, and not when IN resonance.

This mystified me until now, anyway, here it is.

...and to me, the secondary is brighter

oh ya, getting close, and with this fuction gen, i will now find the EXACT spot... as seen here, its tight, but VERY workable

Don Smith Device Project Part 23: Cool Resonance Experiment Replicated, and new Function Generator - YouTube
Hey, Tortuga0303 is me! ha ha ha different name, same guy
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We are limited by whats on the shelf at this stage.

However, money can buy anything.
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Hey, Tortuga0303 is me! ha ha ha different name, same guy
One of the most excellent educational video's on resonance ever posted on youtube ! Thanks Armagdn03, I've watched it many times.
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well safety spark is used when load is below the supplying capacity of charged cap and pulsed dc is constantly overcharging it so we have to have a safety valve to dissipate the surplus. thats why safety spark is used(blue spark is due to pulsed dc as seen in kapanadze and sr 193). cap decides the kwatts or how much joules it can store. higher the cap capacity higher kwatts device is.

and regarding experiments am after moray now. which is truely free power supply sent from God to the people on earth.

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It was said by T.H. Moray that there is “Enough energy is coming to the Earth to light 1,193,600 one hundred-watt lamps for every human being alive today. No fuel of any kind will be taken. Energy can be "picked-up" directly by great ocean liners, railroads, airplanes, automobiles or any form of transportation. In addition, heat, light and power can be available for use in all kinds of buildings. *The Sea of Energy In Which The Earth Floats, 1960 4th edition, page 1.

I know why you are after Moray now.

It will tie in very, very well with what experimenters are building in this thread!
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