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Old 03-19-2012, 05:39 PM
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"Komrad" Obama refusing to relinquish power, if he's voted out. What I DO see, is Repub party leaders doing everything they can, to nominate the weakest possible candidate (Romoney) to go up against B.O. and, if Romoney IS the Repub nominee, I could very well see BO getting a second term.
Then, (even tho the 'act' linked to earlier) states that such actions can be undertaken IN ANTICIPATION of a threat to National Security, (my reading) I suspect there WILL be some sort of 'THREAT', to justify such actions, and get sheeple to go along; either a global financial meltdown, or Iranian Nukes, or something.
I notice there are references to finanacing; the Gov't, it appears, can compel 'private' financing, in order for factories to have equipment put in, to fulfill orders for whatever from the Gov't; so, the Gov't has the 'authority' under this act to take over any/all manufacturing/production facilities.

Sounds like Communism to me. I also note these actions can be taken for National security, OR to preserve the continuity of the Gov't; so 'civil unrest' could be used as an excuse. Makes you wonder if those in power, aren't watching whats happening around the world, and starting to feel vulnerable?

Anyway, something is DEFINETLY coming!

By the way, on "brokered' vs. "Contested" convention; At the end of season 6, of the West Wing TV series, they do a credible job of portraying each. Initially, 3 candidates arrived at the convention, without enough delegates to win the nomination; 2 who are close but no cigar, and a 'spoiler' who has much less; after the first ballot, a 'nomination from the floor' rises and falls.Then, there is a lot of wheeling/dealing, as candidates try to sway votes, and still no clear winner. (Contested convention). Finally, party elders step in and exert their influence, to 'pick' a nominee; "Brokered Convention".

Pretty close to the current situation, except its the Dems instead of the repubs. Jim
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Ricks probably busy working on his new property, which I gotta say, sounded damn near perfect! Jim
Yes, that's right. Made the actual move just a few days ago with a rental truck, and have been busy unpacking and arranging furniture. Lots of honey-do's to tend to also. And no Internet connection! My choices are very limited here in the countryside, and I gave HughesNet satellite service a trial, but my average download speed was just 1/4 what they told me I'd be getting so I canceled and now have nothing. I have to drive to the next town to use my laptop computer in the parking lot of a motel which has wifi service just so I can read my e-mail and check the forum posts, so don't get online that much. I'll have to check on some wireless possibilities, and if that doesn't pan out I'll get a dial-up connection. I'll be around when I can, but in the meantime keep up the good work here folks.

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Old 03-19-2012, 07:45 PM
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Way to go, Rick

I'm at the point of looking for Land, myself. And working on the travel trailers, i'll be moving onto that land, once i make my purchase. Its definetly time to bug out, to avoid the rush, LOL. I KNOW Bizzy and some others are already 'out there', but anyone who's NOT, or at least 'enroute', well, the clock is ticking, and times awastin'!! So get your butt moving!

Whatevers coming, you DON'T want to be caught short!!!!!
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:51 PM
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Hi Rick
We are glad to hear you are ok. We were about ready to call out the Keystone to ride up there and rescue you.
have fun settling in!

Hi Jim
We live in the suburbs but have a defendable hunting camp within a 20 minute drive or a days hike so we are covered. Plus we have "freinds" who are ready to help when the situation calls for it.
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The Georgia Republican Party ripped off the people who attended the state convention. The people voted for delegates, and the vast majority were won by Ron Paul supporters, but then the Republican hierarchy announced their own list of delegates which they handpicked, would not answer to calls of protest, and called the meeting to a close. How more blatant could election rigging possibly get? You must see the video linked below.

Georgia vote fraud - YouTube

And read more about this here.
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Republican Consultant Terry Holt 'Ron Paul cannot be bought!!' - YouTube



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Old 03-19-2012, 11:46 PM
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Not at all surprised, Rick

Deja' Vu, all over again. Reminds me of 2000, when, (and I suspect I'm not alone) my view that elections in the US are run pretty well, and vote tampering is minimal, (unlike OTHER countries) and "Our vote counts" was sorely disabused.
Similarly, I have assumed, (and I suspect most voters also assumed) that someone was watching, to insure that primaries and caucauses were being run 'fairly' and that the winner, even if it wasn't MY choice, was the choice of the majority.
After all, thats the whole basis for the 'coming together' thats SUPPOSED to occur, at and following the Convention.
The party leaders, who are doing all this manuevering, are ASSUMING that when 'their' chosen candidate (Romoney) 'gets' (as a result of their blatant cheating) the nomination, that "all Republicans will unite behind him, to beat Obama."
In my case, they are wrong; I will NEVER vote for Obama, but I will NEVER vote for Romoney, either.To me, its the same thing. And now that I have been 'disabused' and realise just how much our 'votes' in the primaries are manipulated, not sure I will even participate, in one again. Coarse, this may be the LAST time we have Presidential Primaries, so it MAY not matter.

VERY disgusted with the repub party, (nothing new, there). One of the few reasons left for staying a party member was so I could vote in the primaries, with that out of the way I may just quit the party.Jim
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Old 03-20-2012, 03:44 AM
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There was election fraud here in Missouri just this past saturday at the delegate vote here in my county. Well over half the attendees were Paul supporters and we would have easily won it. The government officials running the show knew this, they polled us coming in the door which they are not suppose to do. The meeting was crazy right from the start as the sitting chairman (Eugene Dokes) told us all we could not film the event. The whole place went crazy with boo's. We tried to change the rules, which we are allowed to do, but they would have no part in it. Obviously they didnt want transparency about what was about to happen. The sitting chairman started running the show and appointed a head chairman that nobody wanted. The entire audience was literally chanting for chairman Brent Stafford to be head chair, but he elected someone else. We tried calling for a vote count, but by that time the unelected chairman was trying to take control of the meeting and nobody wanted him there, the whole place went nuts. They shut the meeting down and police kicked us out, there was a police chopper circling the building outside. I do believe fraud has been going on with these elections, but seeing it in person is something else. Its hard to describe it, you just had to be there. Im very proud of my fellow citizens for standing up for ourselves and not taking their crap. Here is some video from the event.

What Caused Missouri Republican Caucus Meltdown? | FOX2now.com – St. Louis News & Weather from KTVI Television FOX2
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Old 03-20-2012, 04:58 AM
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It is obvious the power-that-be are scared of Ron Paul actually more like terrified. Thus they are pulling out all the stops to prevent him from being nominated. Starting in Iowa where the truck carrying the ballots from a Paul stronghold got lost. Only problem they didn’t use trucks the results were phoned in.

Here in Illinois Paul held a rally at a down state collage, 5000 people showed up, but not a word about it in my local paper. Meanwhile Gingrich shows up at a small airport with around 100 supporters and that’s a newsworthy item.

So we will see what happens tomorrow.
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Old 03-20-2012, 12:13 PM
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Good morning everyone,
Aaron first brought this to our attention a few days ago.
But it is still in the news and just as disturbing

Obama Raises Eyebrows With Executive Order Revising Authority To Nationalize Resources For Defense | Fox News

There can be only one reason why Obama would sign this before an election... To make sure he stays in power.

Forcing someone to work without compensation is slavery. This violates so many points of the Constituion I don't know where to begin.
Why isn't the Supreme Court voicing an opinion over this.
This goes well beyond defnse and crosses over to a socialist take over...pretty soon we'll have the black panthers marching into libraries to burn white history books...by order of Komrad Obama and Kommisar Holder

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Old 03-20-2012, 05:50 PM
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The Supremes havn't 'weighed in' on this, cause,...no ones asked them to (yet). Seriously, SOMEONE has to file a court case, in order for the Supreme court to get involved. USUALLY, it has to work its way up thru the courts. Occasionally, when there are obvious time considerations, like Gore Vs. Bush in 2000, they will hear a case, without the usual 2-3 year process. THEY might say that since he hasn't actually implemented anything yet, they won't hear the case; they do that sometimes. As an example, Arizonas SB 1070 immigration law has never actually been implemented, because of court ordered 'stays'. So, the Supreme Court, due to 'hear the case this year, MAY well say that since it hasn't been implemented, no ones 'rights' have been violated, and they don't hear cases based on hypotheticals.This has been done by the court, before.
Also, the Constitution and the Courts DO and have given broad powers to the executive, during 'times of war'. Suspending Habeous Corpus, the internment of Japanes/Americans during WW2, some of the things Lincoln did during the Civil war, etc.
One of the interesting things about this (I believe its an 'Executive order') signed by B.O., (if I'm reading it correctly) is it SEEMS to include a concept of 'pre-emptiveness'. That is, we don't actually NEED to be in a "State of War', it reads as if it can be invoked, if the exeutive anticipates the need, AND, (again, if I am reading it right) it gives a seperate condition for invoking it; to preserve the Gov't.
So, one scenario; Ricks 'thing' of voting for state legislators, that would appoint Federal legislators, etc. because several amendments to the Constitution are bogus, (you know what I'm talking about, even if I'm not saying it correctly). Anyway, these guys (and Gals) show up in D.C, and tell the 'elected' people to vacate their office, AND they've got say,...50,000 or 100,000 people 'backing' them up.
So, B.O. declares this executive order in effect, in order to 'preserve the Government', declares martial law, and seizes the means of production, etc.

Think 'occupy movement', (and the Gov't responce to it) on STEROIDS.
COULD happen. IF it does; something to remember; Mubarak wasn't brought down in 17 days BECAUSE the citisenry were in whatchacallit square, and other squares around the country; what brought him down was that, because the 'people' were in the streets, they WEREN'T at their jobs, or buying a loaf of bread when they went home; THE SYSTEM DEPENDS on active production, and active consumption of the citisenry; when that stops, the system stops working.
It happened at another country, over in malasia, I think. The majority of the population stopped working, and 'occupied' the airport, and refused to disperse. Because 'commerce' was brought to a halt, the Gov't crumbled.

Point is, you don't NEED to gather in the streets, or squares, and get into fights/get killed by the police/army. All you have to do, collectively, is 'go on strike'; STOP working, and STOP consuming; the system can't handle that.

Hence,(I suspect) the provisions to allow for taking over the means of production, although they CAN'T send the military or Police to each house, and force people to go to work, or purchase products. And, as Mubarak showed, if EVERYTHING stops, it doesn't take long (17 days, remember) for it all to come apart. I certainly have enough 'provisions' to go 17 days without buying anything, how about you?

Course, I am getting ahead of myself; first the people have to be p.o.'d enough at the results of the election, THEN comes the 'action', (or more accurately INACTION). And, I'm not sure this executive order will be enough to counteract the will of the people, to do nothing.

As I've said before, it COULD get real interesting! Jim
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:18 PM
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This show was primarily designed for our active and retired military, co-hosted by well known Freedomizer – Jo Anne Moretti. Our primary guest was Drake – and our belovd Teri helped fill in a few gaps in this presentation.

Sometime in the near future, contingents of federal marshals will be serving papers on – and arresting – a number of people. They will be backed up by active military troops. Once again, this is not a military coup. Drake – our man with more connections than I can imagine – brought forth a straight-forward set of instructions to remind our military about the proper manner to refuse an unconstitutional order.

This was followed by a set of free-wheeling calls. If there was ever a show to bring to the attention of your local sheriffs, mayors, police chiefs – and any military you know – this is it. It’s an edge-of-the-seat presentation – and an all-out effort to keep peace in trying and troubling times.



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Point is, you don't NEED to gather in the streets, or squares, and get into fights/get killed by the police/army. All you have to do, collectively, is 'go on strike'; STOP working, and STOP consuming; the system can't handle that.
Aren't the French a good role model for this? It seem like the whole country goes on strike every time the wind blows.
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Sometime in the near future, contingents of federal marshals will be serving papers on – and arresting – a number of people. They will be backed up by active military troops. Once again, this is not a military coup. Drake – our man with more connections than I can imagine – brought forth a straight-forward set of instructions to remind our military about the proper manner to refuse an unconstitutional order.
Are there any references to this "Drake" or is this some anonymous person?

Or any other references anywhere to this being planned?

Almost all of the federal reps should be arrested - good idea and should have been done long time ago - I would love to know that this actually is happening but it seems too good to be true.
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Are there any references to this "Drake" or is this some anonymous person?

Or any other references anywhere to this being planned?

Almost all of the federal reps should be arrested - good idea and should have been done long time ago - I would love to know that this actually is happening but it seems too good to be true.
Hi Aaron
Back in the late 90s there was a lot of concern of Clinton declaring marshal lawif Y2K actually hit. There was also concern about him doing the same at the request of the UN.
There were several sherriff orginazations and several military orginizations who warned of such illegal presidential actions. It also explained what they shoudl do in that case.
If I remember correctly the conferences were titled "vampire slayer 2000" I have looked on line but see no refernce to it. I know I still have some of the documents from a meeting I attended regarding this. I will have to look around for it.
However if there is no other online refernce to it, it is either defunct or "cleaned up"
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:33 PM
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ANYONE can have a good idea, even the French! LOL

Saw an interesting interview, last nite, on PBS Newshour. It was of a Conservative author, didn't get the name, but I'm sure its on their website.

He's written a book, where he postulates that their are 2 classes of people in the U.S, and that the upper class still has certain values, but that the middle class has lost those values. For instance, in 1960 80+% of middle class were married,as were 'upper' class, today still 80% of upper class, but down to 40 something percent of middle class. Anyway, I reject some of his premise, as he seemed to say that middle class needed to re-instill values which upper class has retained.
But, he said upper class ( American Ruling Class?) are 'out of touch' with 'reality'; they go right from college, to a job where they manipulate #'s, or people, (think Wall street, Lawyers, or even "Devil wears Prada"), married someone like themselves, live in a Mcmansion inside a gated Community, and engage in excessive consumerism.

He included a set of 'test' questions, to detirmine which class someone is in. They only mentioned ONE question in the interview, but its very telling; "Have you EVER worked at a job, that made a body part hurt at the end of the day?" Great question. I Think the people he was describing are Romoney voters, and it describes Romoney and his wife, as well.

Where he's off, in my opinion, is in his assertion that these people have retained certain values; No, they are sociopaths, who have worked the system without conscionce, for their OWN benefit. Think Bernie Madoff, Jeff Skilling, the people working at Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, etc. and clearly, Romoney himself; evolution has 'favored' the sociopaths; there is an evolutionary advantage to not having a conscionce, in 'civilisation', and their #'s and influence are past the tipping point; The inmates ARE 'in charge' of the asylum!
The people he describes in the 'working class' who he says have 'lost' these values, and are producing kids out of wedlock, etc.; lower I.Q. sociopaths. For instance he uses statistics from the 1960's, showing 90% of men 30-40 were either working or looking for work; today its something like 40%, (i FORGET THE # HE QUOTED, BUT IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS).

My belief is that civilisation is inevitably going to fall, of its own weight, but this increasing percentage of sociopaths, and their disproportionate influence is speeding the fall. Just wishing the thing would go ahead and collapse, and get it over with, while at the same time doing what I can to prepare for the inevitable chaos that will inevitably result. And, trying to laugh, cause it sure beats the alternative! Jim
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ANYONE can have a good idea, even the French! LOL

Saw an interesting interview, last nite, on PBS Newshour. It was of a Conservative author, didn't get the name, but I'm sure its on their website.

He's written a book, where he postulates that their are 2 classes of people in the U.S, and that the upper class still has certain values, but that the middle class has lost those values. For instance, in 1960 80+% of middle class were married,as were 'upper' class, today still 80% of upper class, but down to 40 something percent of middle class. Anyway, I reject some of his premise, as he seemed to say that middle class needed to re-instill values which upper class has retained.
But, he said upper class ( American Ruling Class?) are 'out of touch' with 'reality'; they go right from college, to a job where they manipulate #'s, or people, (think Wall street, Lawyers, or even "Devil wears Prada"), married someone like themselves, live in a Mcmansion inside a gated Community, and engage in excessive consumerism.

He included a set of 'test' questions, to detirmine which class someone is in. They only mentioned ONE question in the interview, but its very telling; "Have you EVER worked at a job, that made a body part hurt at the end of the day?" Great question. I Think the people he was describing are Romoney voters, and it describes Romoney and his wife, as well.

Where he's off, in my opinion, is in his assertion that these people have retained certain values; No, they are sociopaths, who have worked the system without conscionce, for their OWN benefit. Think Bernie Madoff, Jeff Skilling, the people working at Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, etc. and clearly, Romoney himself; evolution has 'favored' the sociopaths; there is an evolutionary advantage to not having a conscionce, in 'civilisation', and their #'s and influence are past the tipping point; The inmates ARE 'in charge' of the asylum!
The people he describes in the 'working class' who he says have 'lost' these values, and are producing kids out of wedlock, etc.; lower I.Q. sociopaths. For instance he uses statistics from the 1960's, showing 90% of men 30-40 were either working or looking for work; today its something like 40%, (i FORGET THE # HE QUOTED, BUT IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS).

My belief is that civilisation is inevitably going to fall, of its own weight, but this increasing percentage of sociopaths, and their disproportionate influence is speeding the fall. Just wishing the thing would go ahead and collapse, and get it over with, while at the same time doing what I can to prepare for the inevitable chaos that will inevitably result. And, trying to laugh, cause it sure beats the alternative! Jim
Hi Jim
Don't get me started about the French


Anyway I agree I think civilization as a whole will collapse in on itself. I believe that the moral decay not only in this country but around the world goes beyond any class lines, the moral decay is universally spread across national and economic borders.
I belive that as man evolves and advances he looses site of God and when that happens man looses the moral authority which God has over us. And when man has no authority to obey or follow he feels he can do anything he wants. In some cases that is good, ....creativity innovation. Unfortunately in most cases that is bad becuase man as a civilization feels it can also get away wiith anything it deems moral... depravity, rape, lies, theft etc...These things have always been around however now society tries to justify some acts as normal whereas before as a nation under God they would never be accepted.
They took God out of the school and we now have school shootings.
They force God out of the main stream and the mainstream fills the void with ....well I won't get into it here but you get the picture.
If you want a lasting nation bring back God, if you want a moral and caring nation bring back Jesus.
I am sorry I stepped way off base here but those are my humble thoughts
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evolution has 'favored' the sociopaths; there is an evolutionary advantage to not having a conscionce, in 'civilisation', and their #'s and influence are past the tipping point; The inmates ARE 'in charge' of the asylum!
I would make a distinction here -

These sociopaths are not evolved so this isn't about evolution. They grow their control through predatory behavior because they are operating from pure survival mode in the reptilian part of their brain that we all have. These people are not evolved but are genetically, mentally and spiritually degenerated or de-evolved. These are the metaphorical reptilians that rule by fear and it seems to be bred into their children, children's children, etc... through many generations.

When there is fear, the reptilian part of the brain kicks in and the rest of the brain shut down. These sociopaths are simply operating from perpetual fear.
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Hi Aaron
Back in the late 90s there was a lot of concern of Clinton declaring marshal lawif Y2K actually hit. There was also concern about him doing the same at the request of the UN.
There were several sherriff orginazations and several military orginizations who warned of such illegal presidential actions. It also explained what they shoudl do in that case.
If I remember correctly the conferences were titled "vampire slayer 2000" I have looked on line but see no refernce to it. I know I still have some of the documents from a meeting I attended regarding this. I will have to look around for it.
However if there is no other online refernce to it, it is either defunct or "cleaned up"
Bizzy
Drake seems to be anon, but some interesting comments were made on their previous youtube video, suggesting confirmation.

Google this:
The Original "Officer Friendly" Jack McLamb - "Police and Military Against the New World Order" - "Vampire Killer 2000".

Jack has been severely suppressed:
Jack McLamb - Police & Military Against the New World Order
Taking our oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution" seriously. * Aid & Abet 115 Patrick Henry Ct, Kamiah, Idaho -
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Drake seems to be anon, but some interesting comments were made on their previous youtube video, suggesting confirmation.

Google this:
The Original "Officer Friendly" Jack McLamb - "Police and Military Against the New World Order" - "Vampire Killer 2000".

Jack has been severely suppressed:
Jack McLamb - Police & Military Against the New World Order
Taking our oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution" seriously. * Aid & Abet 115 Patrick Henry Ct, Kamiah, Idaho -
hi yoyo
you are right!!!
Vampire killer 2000 not slayer.....
This is exactly what I was referring to. These are frem the series of conferences, rallies etc in the mid 90s to warn real Americans about the potential of constitutioanl abuse by the president. They are very germaine today.
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Bizzy, Once again, I am in complete accord, but (Like you?) I have been hesitant to bring God into this discussion too much as i have no desire to 'take on' the atheists, etc. that may b lurking out there, spoiling for a fight.

Aaron; perhaps i didn't express myself very well; there is plenty of scientific evidence (PET brain scans, etc. ) to indicate sociopaths are biologically different; their brains are wired different, and that this is a genetic mutation, just like many others. The thing is, in a pre-civilisation society, (hunter/gatherers) where Co-operation was pre-eminent, and competition virtually unknown, such a mutation would have not 'taken hold', and advantaged the individual, and resulted in offspring.
In a "Civilised" society, where there is both some co-operation, as well as a large dose of competition, sociopaths have an advantage, and so are steadily increasing, as a percntage of our society. And, even at current #'s, they have a disproportionate impact ON society.
The 'irony' is that while ther genetic mutation IS 'advantageous' to their individual survival, and therfore opportunities to propogate, the long term effect of their behavior is NOT beneficial to the survival of the species, quite the contrary.
As Bizzy has said, I think this 10,000 y.o. 'experiment' (of Civilisation) is doomed to failure, and collapse, and certainly moral decay is a contributing factor. So too, I believe is this factor that civilisation 'favors' sociopaths, from an evolution standpoint. This contributes to the morl declin, AND contributes to the collapse of civilisation in other ways, as well. Jim
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Aaron; perhaps i didn't express myself very well; there is plenty of scientific evidence (PET brain scans, etc. ) to indicate sociopaths are biologically different; their brains are wired different, and that this is a genetic mutation, just like many others. The thing is, in a pre-civilisation society, (hunter/gatherers) where Co-operation was pre-eminent, and competition virtually unknown, such a mutation would have not 'taken hold', and advantaged the individual, and resulted in offspring.
In a "Civilised" society, where there is both some co-operation, as well as a large dose of competition, sociopaths have an advantage, and so are steadily increasing, as a percntage of our society. And, even at current #'s, they have a disproportionate impact ON society.
The 'irony' is that while ther genetic mutation IS 'advantageous' to their individual survival, and therfore opportunities to propogate, the long term effect of their behavior is NOT beneficial to the survival of the species, quite the contrary.
As Bizzy has said, I think this 10,000 y.o. 'experiment' (of Civilisation) is doomed to failure, and collapse, and certainly moral decay is a contributing factor. So too, I believe is this factor that civilisation 'favors' sociopaths, from an evolution standpoint. This contributes to the morl declin, AND contributes to the collapse of civilisation in other ways, as well. Jim
Their "survival" certainly goes beyond survival where enough is never enough. The moral decline is because the agenda of this: The Communist Manifesto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia has been strongly adhered by to by virtually every administration for many decades now since it is desired by the communist bankers. Namely destroying the family by the inflation tax forcing both parents into the workplace, etc...

I don't know that civilization favors these parasites, inherently. Just my opinion but I think it is that most people are sheep and are always looking for leadership and they would rather blindly go along with people that take a strong position as a leader even if they are a parasite rather than wander aimlessly about. Most people simply need to be told what to do and what to believe - it is human nature as sheep. There are more of these parasites that come from a position of strength (apparently) to the masses that seem to be strong leaders than there are leaders that come from not just a position of strength but also integrity or benevolence.

If more people for truth, justice, etc... stepped up to the plate as leaders, there is probably more of a likelihood that people the masses in "civilized" society will gravitate towards them. This trend is happening but very slowly.

One word sums them up: Parasite
parasite (ˈpζrəˌsaɪt) — n 1. an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it 2. a person who habitually lives at the expense of others; sponger 3. (formerly) a sycophant [C16: via Latin from Greek parasitos one who lives at another's expense, from para- 1 + sitos grain]
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I don't know that civilization favors these parasites, inherently. Just my opinion but I think it is that most people are sheep and are always looking for leadership and they would rather blindly go along with people that take a strong position as a leader even if they are a parasite rather than wander aimlessly about. Most people simply need to be told what to do and what to believe - it is human nature as sheep. There are more of these parasites that come from a position of strength (apparently) to the masses that seem to be strong leaders than there are leaders that come from not just a position of strength but also integrity or benevolence.
I agree. Frequently when talking to people about politics I find that their eyes will glaze over and they will revert to simplistic answers, like I support this party because it is what my parents believed in. They simply have no interest in trying to follow or understand what is going on around them. They just want to be left alone to live their lives as they chose. Of course by doing this they fall prey to being controlled the parasites that will use their inattentiveness as a means to gain complete power over them.

Then when bit by bit as their right to be left alone is slowly eroded and they become confused and assume it is perfectly normal to be irradiated and sexually grouped just to be able to fly on a plane.
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Parasitic,yes

Reptillian? Aren'twe all; that is to say, we ALL have the 'repptillian brain, within our human brain; right at the brainstem, itis responsible for all 'subconscious'behavior, such as breathing, heart beating, etc. which we (normally) do,without conscious thought.
I FEAR, that in a political contest between a sociopath, and someone with integrity (as your describing) the odds would be with the sociopath winning; The sociopath wouldn't have any scruples, whereas the honorable candidate would.
This is an exampleof what i mean, when i say that, in our modern 'civilised' society, sociopaths have an evolutionary advantage.Think of the advantage to a Lawyer, for instance,in having no scruples. A Wall Street Banker,...Or,most certainly, a Politician.
We would LIKE to think that the masses would 'see through' a Politician that obviously has no moral scruples,will say anything to get elected, distort the record of his opponents, engage in a massive negative ad campaign BASED on such distortions. And of coarse go along with his minions engaging in vote tampering, in order to win.
And, if presented with a clear alternative; a principled politician who ACCURATELY comments on the record of his opponents, and who's own record is impeccable, would clearly be the choice of the populace.
So, Ron Paul should be the clear, obvious nominee for the repub party, and Romoney should never have gotten passed the first series of primaries. I rest my case; being a sociopath, in our current 'civilised' society, imparts certain advantages.
Have you SEEN "The Devil Wears prada"? It IS a clear portrayal of a Sociopath, and howthe lackof a consciounce CAN,in this society, be an 'advantage', in terms of our current value system. And so is the current republican nominating process.Jim
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And of coarse go along with his minions engaging in vote tampering, in order to win.

So, Ron Paul should be the clear, obvious nominee for the repub party,

"In politics, nothing happens by accident.
If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."

-F. D. Roosevelt

Is RP MD suicidal?
Ron Paul: Member of Illuminati - YouTube

Why both RPs are allowed "farm flock" management?

Following JFK and RR track record, will the third traitor be a charm?


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By the way, Al

Saw something awhile back, (although, AS USUAL, I'm afraid I can't provide a reference). It stated that estimates are that there are 500 million sociopaths, worldwide. Sounds like a big #, although as a % of the world population of 7 billion, its not THAT many. Unfortunatly, they can have an effect on the population disproportionate to there actual #'s.

Think how ONE thief, can adversely effect 100's of peoples lives, during the coarse of their life as a 'career criminal'. Think how someone like a Bernie Madoff, or jeff Skilling, can (similarly) adveresely effect 100's or even millions.

Think how an unscrupulous Liar (Lawyer), and a Sociopathic Politician, etc.

And, because it (being a sociopath) DOES impart several advantages (from a 'survival' and 'propogation' or survival of the genes point of view) there #'s, as a % of the population, are steadily GROWING!

As to RP, not sure what you are saying, with your previous post. I really find it hard to believe that RP is REALLY one of 'them', and is secretly going to get the nomination.i.e a 'phoney' . Jim
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As to RP, not sure what you are saying, with your previous post. I really find it hard to believe that RP is REALLY one of 'them', and is secretly going to get the nomination.i.e a 'phoney' . Jim
If he was one of 'them', you would think that 'they' would not have to worry about him getting elected. Why is the election fraud against RP becoming more and more rampant?

Whatever the case, he has started a revolution that will be VERY hard to stop.

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More on Drake?

This seems to be the Drake mentioned before.

Not anonymous but Thomas Drake, a NSA whistleblower -
same Drake?

NSA Whistleblower Thomas Drake Prevails in Unprecedented Obama Admin Crackdown - YouTube
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R.P. Illuminati Video=Bull S**t

(written, researched & edited by Joshua Skye) I wonder how much this guy was paid and by whom, for putting this BS video together?

Come on Ron Paul shaking Ronald Reagan's hand, so what!!

To put the fear of GOD in the hearts of the people world wide all you would need is someone who really knew who B.O. has shook hands with (especially behind closed doors) and list them on a video. Including his college days, Ill. mafia buddy's, up until present since rubbing shoulders with many of the true world ruling class.
IMO the list alone would cause many sleepless nights.
No need for doomsday background music.

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Yes,

my sentiments exactly. 'They" are expending mucho bucks, and vote tampering, etc. to force Romoney down our throats, knowing we will gag, and all the while their 'real' plan is to offer up the candidate they REALLY wanted, all along i.e. RP. And, they are appearing to do everything they can, to suppress RP, just to 'fool us'? B.S. They aren't that clever or complicated, nor do they have to be.
So this is B.S.!!
As for RP shaking Reagans hand; so what???Every Republican politician gives (at least) lip service to Reagan, now, and at one time figured a picture of them, shaking his hand was worth 1000's of votes. They STILL calculate that way. What a crock!!! Jim
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